Discussions about Hiring and Hiring Practices

[farmer fitchy]

finding it more common now since the recent upgrades of not getting the pop up saying they accept the job. so I hire someone else! I feel bad when i go back to the famr and 5 people are fighting over a patch because I didnt know they were already there!

[StoneFace]

finding it more common now since the recent upgrades of not getting the pop up saying they accept the job. so I hire someone else! I feel bad when i go back to the famr and 5 people are fighting over a patch because I didnt know they were already there!


may the strong survive !!:p

[Sandy Mae]

The one thing that makes me crazy is when I do hire people in the hiring market, they don't finish. Now I do understand that computers get in the way. But it happens a lot when they are 4 hour crops. I have taken to doing it all myself. I have gone back to the market and watched as these same people want to know what crop they are being hired for! Just wanted to say............

[Majik Merlin]

...hey, if you like to fish, knock yourself out.

I don't have any tools except the coin tools and manure spreaders, though I am seriously considering getting the boats above any other tools now because it'd be nice to have very little competition!! :D

I don't mind fishing and sometimes enjoy it because I bot the boat and it is the best investment i've ever made with this game. HOWEVER I will NOT fish stacked water-PERIOD. Even wi the boat it is a P A I N

[asuething]

Thanks for opening a discussion thread.

I still wish we had an option to fire people. I sincerely doubt the amount of people hiring just to fire is so significant that the rest of the population should be held hostage to slow, disrespectful or verbally abusive players.
I agree. People should have the option. Is someone is just plain rude, why should they not be fired? We should definitely have this option.

[JAS0643]

I agree. People should have the option. Is someone is just plain rude, why should they not be fired? We should definitely have this option.

One person's definition of rude is not the same as another person's definition of rude. While there is a small percentage of the time when people truly need a fire button 99% of the time it is not needed. There are people that want a fire button because people do not say thank you .000000002 seconds after they land on the farm. They feel like that is 10 times the amount of time they need and they should have said thank you by then and if they don't they will fire them. There are people that think others should say think you 10 times while harvesting a farm or give tons of parse to the farmer if they are hired for a high paying crop instead of raspberries a simple thank you is not enough so they are being rude. Not everyone speaks the same language so if someone does not speak when spoken to they are being rude and should be fired. It doesn't really matter if the person doesn't know the first word in English they should learn if they are going to play this game if they don't they are being rude. :rolleyes: People also get upset because their worker is there to work and not chat :eek: and want to fire them for that reason. It would be very abused if ever put in the game.

[Angel70]

One person's definition of rude is not the same as another person's definition of rude. While there is a small percentage of the time when people truly need a fire button 99% of the time it is not needed. There are people that want a fire button because people do not say thank you .000000002 seconds after they land on the farm. They feel like that is 10 times the amount of time they need and they should have said thank you by then and if they don't they will fire them. There are people that think others should say think you 10 times while harvesting a farm or give tons of parse to the farmer if they are hired for a high paying crop instead of raspberries a simple thank you is not enough so they are being rude. Not everyone speaks the same language so if someone does not speak when spoken to they are being rude and should be fired. It doesn't really matter if the person doesn't know the first word in English they should learn if they are going to play this game if they don't they are being rude. :rolleyes: People also get upset because their worker is there to work and not chat :eek: and want to fire them for that reason. It would be very abused if ever put in the game.

I agree with that 100%

[Debosophy]

I have a problem where you hire people to harvest and plow, but they don't.

There are times when my farms are ready, I hire people before I go to work and come home to dead crops because the person I've hired has left and I don't know they've done that until it's too late.

Is there some sort of ranking system that could be implemented? For instance, if a person is hired and they do what they've been hired to do in its entirety, they're given a point (or maybe a star?) that is shown next to their name so that a person hiring knows they've got someone who will get the job done.

I don't know if this is even possible, but I'm throwing the idea out there anyway.

[maddshots]

I have a problem with people who hire you to do multi jobs and when you get there it is nothing but one job, like plowing, that you would have turned down if you had known. then they get angry and bad talk you in the market if you complain or refuse to do the job because it was deliberately mis-represented.

[maddshots]

I have asked around when in the market and then add reliable people to my buddy list.


I have a problem where you hire people to harvest and plow, but they don't.

There are times when my farms are ready, I hire people before I go to work and come home to dead crops because the person I've hired has left and I don't know they've done that until it's too late.

Is there some sort of ranking system that could be implemented? For instance, if a person is hired and they do what they've been hired to do in its entirety, they're given a point (or maybe a star?) that is shown next to their name so that a person hiring knows they've got someone who will get the job done.

I don't know if this is even possible, but I'm throwing the idea out there anyway.

[maddshots]

As a frequent worker I say yes, please, please tell BEFORE hiring that there are multi farms. some folks may just not have time to do so many and not doing them all can get a worker an un-deserved bad rep of not finishing jobs.


Thanks! I was pretty much thinking the same thing. I guess I need to say I have 10 farms when in the market to hire!!

[maddshots]

I agree totally, a star would show us who is always a finisher! Great idea!


I have a problem where you hire people to harvest and plow, but they don't.

There are times when my farms are ready, I hire people before I go to work and come home to dead crops because the person I've hired has left and I don't know they've done that until it's too late.

Is there some sort of ranking system that could be implemented? For instance, if a person is hired and they do what they've been hired to do in its entirety, they're given a point (or maybe a star?) that is shown next to their name so that a person hiring knows they've got someone who will get the job done.

I don't know if this is even possible, but I'm throwing the idea out there anyway.

[maddshots]

I work the market a lot and wish everyone would do it that way. I get hired to harvest crops and flowers for instance and after I finish THEN they send a plow offer when if it had been included I could be totally done having used my combine. i always advertise the combine too. People don't read your name, what it is you want to hire out for, etc. My name says NO FISHING in all caps and I get hassled constantly to fish! then they keep sending and sending no matter how many times I say no. I try to make it very clear what I do or what I need and will always take jobs that are clearly stated over others.

[maddshots]

I have been called rude for not chit chatting instead of working. i use a laptop and need to work in full screen mode. Every time I have to respond to an employer question or just them chatting at me, I have to stop working, escape full screen, type, send, go back to full screen to start working again. If I don't see the persons post ( sometimes you don't while in full screen), I am rude for taking too long to answer! I like to get the work done and move on. Plus I thought the whole point of hiring was to get the work done faster. So the person may not be rude, there may be other factors involved.

[maddshots]

Agreed! there is NO WAY to get even most of the fish in overlapping waters, be they rivers, lakes or seas. And then folks get angry when you don't get them all and you have burned up tons of fuel trying



I don't mind fishing and sometimes enjoy it because I bot the boat and it is the best investment i've ever made with this game. HOWEVER I will NOT fish stacked water-PERIOD. Even wi the boat it is a P A I N

[maddshots]

I have a combine, which I advertise but part of my very name says I do not compete with no tool workers. Most don't bother reading the names and when I get to a farm with no tool workers i message the hirer to remind them look at my name and leave the farm to the no tool who needs the points. It does not help that so many jerks will hire both no tool and big tools for the same farms!



think what pj is alluding to is those that have the say combine who never give others the chance to harvest

i have it but if im hired along with someone who hasnt got it then i will either leave or share the work i cant see the point in being greedy now ..

[clogger]

Wow! With all these complaints, I'm glad I rarely go to the MP any more. I hire neighbors or buddies; if none can work, I do it myself. I work for neighbors and buddies, too. That keeps me plenty busy with managing all the farms and facilities.

I really like the new system of putting online neighbors first in the neighbors bar at the bottom. I can more easily see which low level neighbors are online in FT and give them more work than I did in the past.

[HelenJS22]

I have a problem with people who hire you to do multi jobs and when you get there it is nothing but one job, like plowing, that you would have turned down if you had known. then they get angry and bad talk you in the market if you complain or refuse to do the job because it was deliberately mis-represented.

You know what - I have a policy of 'no job is too menial' and though I do a few menial tasks each evening, it is absolutely amazing how many fantastic jobs I get because I put no conditions on what I will do. I don't demand to know the job before I accept it, and I don't complain if it's 'not worthy' of me and my whiz bang tools. I simply do it in good grace and attitude, thank the farmer and move on.

Maybe it would surprise you to know that a couple of days ago, a farmer for whom I did a very menial task, answered my message of thanks by offering me his 'other' farm which had a full selection of tasks across all of his ten farms. Turns out the first one was his little 'feeder' farm, and he 'always tests his workers before offering them the big job'.

I have found over and over again that a farmer will employ me with what seems to be a 'one farm, lowly job', but after I have completed it quickly, thoroughly and without a wimper of complaint, they then quickly rehire me for all of the other farms that are hiding a treasure of goodies for a willing, non complaining worker.

You may think it unfair for employee farmers to 'mis represent' what they have to offer, but they also have many complaints about what they call 'beggars and bullies' in the market, and it is THEIR farm, and rightly or wrongly in your point of view, they have a right to hire who and how they wish.

It's all about your attitude, and the way you approach the market place ;)

[spartan7886]

I have a problem with people who hire you to do multi jobs and when you get there it is nothing but one job, like plowing, that you would have turned down if you had known. then they get angry and bad talk you in the market if you complain or refuse to do the job because it was deliberately mis-represented.

I have had more people complain about this and then promptly leave before I can point out that yes, this farm is only fishing, but I also hired you for 9 other farms of h/p!

[gatormania]

If we can get a "No Fishing" option, I'll gladly use farm cash for it :o)

[tnbskts]

finding it more common now since the recent upgrades of not getting the pop up saying they accept the job. so I hire someone else! I feel bad when i go back to the famr and 5 people are fighting over a patch because I didnt know they were already there!

That's why I was suggesting having the ability to cancel a hire request before trying to hire someone else. Especially with all the tools people have, you don't need several people on a farm, and once you've hired someone and they haven't responded, you run the risk that they'll turn up anyway after you've hired someone else.

[bluehair]

but when I am hired to harvest or plow or harvest trees as soon as someone else comes in my pc lags big time..i end up having to leave the farm as I get so frustrated.

[farmer fitchy]

lately i havent always had the pop up saying they accept the job... so i hire somene else. i have accidently had three poeple on a small job because i didnt know the othrs were there. frustrating gor all!

[GrannyMo]

lately i havent always had the pop up saying they accept the job... so i hire somene else. i have accidently had three poeple on a small job because i didnt know the othrs were there. frustrating gor all!

One way around that is to hang out at the MP for a minute before immediately hiring someone else, and watch the top of your screen to see whether the "X just harvested Y" message shows up. If it does, you know your first worker is on the job and you don't need to hire another.

[Teladria]

Help! I need to know how to access my tools when I've been hired.

[Tony D]

Help! I need to know how to access my tools when I've been hired.Hi, you can access your Farm Cash tools via the extended tool bar,

[barbara nixon]

i remember when i was needing to level up and how i went everywhere and did everything i could to get the xp..1 click ata time..that's part of the process...besides it helps them decide what tool they would like to get first...the thing i hated when i was a "newby" was someone hiring more that one for their farm..i always hired solo so they could get it all...i had one guy hire me to harvest the hired someone else to plow..i wrote down his name and NEVER worked for him again...lol..now i have a bundh of great neighbors..we all work for each other..and with the multiple hire it's nice to be planting on another farm while they hp..and vice/versa..kinda like real farming...it's supposed to be fun..not a job..if u want a job..get off the computer games...and get one..

[sueripper@gmail.com]

I have found it impossible to hire people to fish and I am just asking them to fish 2 big sea coasts and lake w/ boat. There needs to be a higher reward for people to want to fish. I am tired of begging for people to fish so I just do it myself. :(

[Raine Logan]

I have found it impossible to hire people to fish and I am just asking them to fish 2 big sea coasts and lake w/ boat. There needs to be a higher reward for people to want to fish. I am tired of begging for people to fish so I just do it myself. :(

where do you go to hire? i thought the market place workers didn't mind fishing large seacoasts and boat lakes. that said - if you have a boat it's much quicker to do it yourself.

[GrannyMo]

I have found it impossible to hire people to fish and I am just asking them to fish 2 big sea coasts and lake w/ boat. There needs to be a higher reward for people to want to fish. I am tired of begging for people to fish so I just do it myself. :(

Do you tell the MP first what you have water-wise, or just hire to fish and keep getting the "no thanks"? People will turn down hire requests for fishing simply because they don't want to end up on a farm with miles of river pieces (especially stacked ones) that are a pain to fish and not worth the effort. I've had good success by just saying up front "who wants to fish 11 seacoasts and 3 lakes?" and hiring whoever says they'd like to do it.

Time of day seems to be a factor as well. Mornings (US) seem to be big for harvest/plow jobs for crops and that's what most would prefer to do, so it's harder to find willing fisherfolk then.

[farmer fitchy]

this drives me CRAZY, i bnought the second boat, and still it takes forever to fish. The second boat should catch 50-100 fish every click.

and i can never get people to work, i say COASTS AND LAKES with bait..... and 30 people say nothing.

needs to be faster and easier. and i HATE fishing rivers, esp stacked ones

[snow_angel]

I've got the green boat and it takes me only seconds to catch all the fish. I have only the big lakes, big lake with boat and the sea coasts no rivers. I just click along the coast line and along the edge of the lakes. By the time I get to the end I've caught all my fish. If I'm in the market place if hired to fish I'll do it, with the boat the fishing gets done fast. But yeah if it's stacked rivers forget it, it does help if you have the boat but it is so time consuming

[Taz D]

this drives me CRAZY, i bnought the second boat, and still it takes forever to fish. The second boat should catch 50-100 fish every click.

and i can never get people to work, i say COASTS AND LAKES with bait..... and 30 people say nothing.

needs to be faster and easier. and i HATE fishing rivers, esp stacked ones
The second boat only catches up to 25 - 5- not 50 - 100. Note I said up to and not always. It depends really on how you space your clicks and how many fish are in that area.

[sueripper@gmail.com]

Yes, I am in the appropriate MP and state in my request what I have to fish - 2 lg seacoasts and lake w/boat and have bait - with the usual response of nothing - time of day means nothing either. I never have them fish my river unless someone wants to do it. Still feel there needs to be a larger reward for fishing.
Do you tell the MP first what you have water-wise, or just hire to fish and keep getting the "no thanks"? People will turn down hire requests for fishing simply because they don't want to end up on a farm with miles of river pieces (especially stacked ones) that are a pain to fish and not worth the effort. I've had good success by just saying up front "who wants to fish 11 seacoasts and 3 lakes?" and hiring whoever says they'd like to do it.

Time of day seems to be a factor as well. Mornings (US) seem to be big for harvest/plow jobs for crops and that's what most would prefer to do, so it's harder to find willing fisherfolk then.

[Ms Helpful]

i love fishing so if you see me in the market please hire me :)

the thing i think is really good when you have water to be fished is always have bait, makes it quicker and rewards you more for the hardwork involved

[snow_angel]

i love fishing so if you see me in the market please hire me :)

the thing i think is really good when you have water to be fished is always have bait, makes it quicker and rewards you more for the hardwork involved

So true. Sometimes I'll even ask if they have bait. I used to hate fishing but since I got the boat don't mind at all now

[artisanrox]

I have a boat too, if you see me, I'm "Rox (have both fertilizers)" or something similar to that. I will fish for you too, or you can even add me as a neighbor. :)

[jcassemjr]

I love to fish my farms as well. I have spread my fishable water features on 4 different farms, and they are all very easy to fish. I get the small costs emptied in 8 or 9 clicks and the large coast in 24-28 clicks. I have several rivers - 2 clicks for each river segment, several corners - 1 click, small lakes - 3 clicks, big lakes vary but generally under 20 clicks. I hide everything hideable before going to the farms with the water features, so that they aren't showing over the edges - which is where I generally find the fish.

I will fish on request in the MP, and generally love doing it, since they generally hire me for more work once I am there - it might be their way of filtering out the beggars in the MP.

I have only been hired a couple of times on the super layered water farms where there are a ton over lapped fishable items. I did about 3-5 minutes of fishing for the farmer, and then left a message saying that "I fished for the 3-5 minutes, but all of the over lapping items made it difficult to do a good job." That way they may understand that their decorative choice made the work more difficult on the people they are trying to hire.

I think that if you have made a water farm for decorative purposes, it is unreasonable to expect someone will fish all of the features, especially when the farmer hiring you doesn't have the bait, and they have them overlapped so much that you cannot get a good yield per click.

But we all get to play the game the way we want, and we all live our farming lives by that choice.

You may want to hire people to work other items, and then once they get to the farm you want to have fished, ask then, that way they see what is available to fish. I know that I have accepted to fish 3 small ponds after getting a couple of hundred plots to harvest and plow. If I had been hired to fish only the 3 small ponds, I would have been very disappointed, but would have done it, so I could help the player.

[COLIN DEAN]

I now have all the tools so can see it from both sides I only got them because I got fed up being hired alongside a tool owner and getting next to nothing from the hire. Dont get me wrong now I have paid real money for them I do the same as I want value for getting them. But I have gone into the mp when I have time to spare to hire a newbie without tools so as to help them, the problem is if you ask for a newbie I have ended up with a combie so a way of knowing what tools anyone has would be very helpful and a lot of ill feeling could be avioded.So far the developers have done what I consider to be brilliant job and thanks must go to them for a great game. And I still think a fire button would be great as that would make it more life like lets be honest you do a bad job in real life you get fired.All they need do is link it to the ignore button so it becomes both fire and ignore.

[tgray]

I have found it impossible to hire people to fish and I am just asking them to fish 2 big sea coasts and lake w/ boat. There needs to be a higher reward for people to want to fish. I am tired of begging for people to fish so I just do it myself. :(
My problem is when I get a fishing job all I end up with most of the time is rivers and small seacoasts. I rarely get lakes or big seacoasts.

[snow_angel]

should've been in the market place today. This morning and again late afternoon there were people begging to fish

[Queen.of.Clutter]

I am officially finished with hiring out of the Marketplace. I try to be a good player, and spread the wealth ..... but the past few months for each half decent person that I hire, there are 20 that totally suck. I always state exactly what I would like to hire for, I ask if they want help .... but it seems they only do a half-arsed job .... pick and choose what they want, then leave. It takes me longer to go farm to farm and clean up what they didn't do than if I just did it myself.

I give up.

[Mr. H]

I am officially finished with hiring out of the Marketplace. I try to be a good player, and spread the wealth ..... but the past few months for each half decent person that I hire, there are 20 that totally suck. I always state exactly what I would like to hire for, I ask if they want help .... but it seems they only do a half-arsed job .... pick and choose what they want, then leave. It takes me longer to go farm to farm and clean up what they didn't do than if I just did it myself.

I give up.

I rarely hire from the MP anymore. I hire neighbors for trees and flowers. Everything else I do myself. With the tools we have it's just a lot easier and less frustrating, not to mention faster.

[ducky lucky]

I love fishing too-so hire me if you see me-I'm usually asking for fishing jobs :)

[ducky lucky]

Also I find that re-loading the farm helps with particularily decorative farms-you can usually get all the fish with 2 -3 reloads:)

[ducky lucky]

I only recently bought a 4x4 plower and harvester and can see both sides of the argument-I managed when I had solo tools to become very fast at h/p so the person hiring was always happy with my work-the addition of the hire to h&p helped greatly with this-I always feel guilty when I arrive at a farm and see a solo person there-sometimes the person hiring will hire me for something else-somtimes they dont-I do ask if the solo person wants to share-they continue harvesting and i plow or vice versa-We all started out the same and its only fair to give mewbies a chance :)

[sheila32134]

there is NO ONE at marketplace except Tom........I've tried mine then also my sister's farm which goes to different room Is it me or is something wrong with marketplace this has been for about a week now.... sheila

[JAS0643]

there is NO ONE at marketplace except Tom........I've tried mine then also my sister's farm which goes to different room Is it me or is something wrong with marketplace this has been for about a week now.... sheila

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[Lene Bay]

Where can I now go to see if my neighbours need me to work in their facilities? That part has disappeared in the part where I also go to get new gifts.

[Taz D]

Where can I now go to see if my neighbours need me to work in their facilities? That part has disappeared in the part where I also go to get new gifts.
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[snow_angel]

I find your phrase "people hiring just to fire" is so strange and opaque. What do you mean by this?

I think he/she means someone who gets a kick out of hiring someone and then as soon as they get to their farm they fire them

[storm36]

when i hire, i post what type of work and how many farms and click on the first person that wants it, i try to hire lower level farmers to help them level up regardless if they have the bigger tools or not and i tell them flat out if they want help to let me know and i will bring another player to help. In regards to the MP spammers, the players who just repeat themselves over and over again like a broken record, they are put on ignore and i refuse to hire them.

when i work for another farmer i do only the jobs and farms i am hired for .. i dont ask for other work i wasnt hired to do unless they ask me if i want to do it then i will always accept .. i am there for as long as the farmer needs me to do what ever jobs they want me to do on 1 or all farms .. it shouldnt matter what type of work you were hired for, ya just do it whether you like it or not

[JDragon kweeph]

What ever happened with going to the marketplace and being able to hire anybody??? I went to the MP to hire someone and it took over 20 minutes of posting the type of work i needed done on 5 farms, before someone said they would do it .. IMO there are too many players getting way too picky these days about what type of job they will or wont do! Before we could use all the big tools on other players farms, when you went there to hire , you could find workers by the dozens! Maybe the hiring process needs to go back to only being able to use the single tool option when working for other farmers for all players, maybe then players will stop being so picky about the type of jobs they will or wont do.

Before i had any of the big tools, i specified i didnt have tools but i was willing to do what ever job they needed done. Now that i have all the tools, i still do what ever jobs that i am hired for, regardless if i like doing it or not!

Today, I was almost ready to give up and just do the work myself .. next time if i dont find anyone after a couple of minutes, i will just stop going there to hire others and do the work myself .. seems it would get done faster that way!

[tnbskts]

I don't think it's the tools as much as the facilities. I've had people come to my farm to work, announce that they aren't doing this one because they can't use the crops in their facilities, and move to other farms they've been hired for to see if the crops are to their liking. Mostly it doesn't happen but it's not that rare.

[md4caw]

I think you should be able to fire people. You can ignore them, but if you hired them to do a job and they aren't going a very good one, you can't stop them or make them leave your farm. I am very specific when I hire people that they MUST HAVE ALL TOOLS! Still I get people that say they can do it and don't have the appropriate tools. I have 11 fully upgraded very detailed and complicated Farm/Towns and I don't have time for people who think that they can do the job, but can't.
I would also like to suggest a super neighbor/buddy feature where you can visit those farms and if there is anything due, you can harvest or whatever else is needed for them without them having to hire you. You can ask them if they want to be on the list and only have to hire them once, but have the option of removing them from the list, just like you can remove someone from the buddy list.
It would also be nice to hire someone to plant. Quite a few people have the combine to harvest, plow and plant. A menu could come up asking what you wanted planted or perhaps you would be able to go into the seeds section and be able to pick what crops you want planted in the future and the person you hire can pick from those crops you have listed.

[b_platt]

Just trying to find out how to hire someone to harvest JUST TREES. It says I have to wait til crops are finished but I have NO crops on that farm... Why can't we hire to do just tree farms...

[spongebob HarvestPants]

With everything that is being added... thank you very much for that!, my 11 farms get pretty loaded. Yet they are still like a ghost town.
Please.. let us add people to our farms!!! If animals can move, why can't we have people walking around working our farms? I think we probably have enough facilities an tools. Now we need PEOPLE!!
Thanks!

[barbara nixon]

you can hire to do trees when u hire multiple..i says crops and trees...if u only check that box then it should let them to just the trees..and any crops u have ready..i use the multiple box all the time and it works good...i don't hire most to do my chopping as some of my farms i have the trees as decorations only....still waiting for them to fix the bait prob tho..my friends want to go fishing on their days off...lol..

[iam1to]

i think that when you hire someone for harvest etc that the hire should be active for like 5 minutes after you leave the farm - this has happened to me (and assume to others) that since the farms do not fit the screen even when full screen or scrolled out that when you try to move the farm you accidently click on the tabs along the top (or something else) and leave that farm - tonight i was hired by a friend and they signed off facebook right away so i could not get rehired - if the hires stayed "active" for a few minutes after you leave the farm you could still return and continue with the hire (whatever you were hired for)

[oldstaff]

i agree about people getting too picky and demanding, i had someone who accepted the hire then when she arrived and i just said hi said sorry thats too impersonable i like to chat with the people who hire me and promptly left, when i went back to the market she was there and had the cheek when i posted i needed a worker said yes please! when i said i hired you and my work wasnt good enough cos i dont want to spend my time talking instead of playing the game she told me i had an attitude!

i make it clear when i hire if its harvest only and still people ask to plow and get snotty when i say no, it would be nice if people appreciated the work theyre offered without nagging for other stuff, rarely do people even say thank you for being hired, i wish they would remember that plowing isnt a right and someone has to harvest before you can plow so dont refuse work cos you have to harvest first, remember that maybe i dont have time to become their latest BFF in order for them to do the work they asked for and if you dont have tools and someone says a job is too big for a single clicker dont say you will do it - i dont have time to wait for someone to single click some layered farms it takes too long and im ususally waiting to plant but the second i hire someone else they moan. i know lots of people are new to the game and getting tools takes time and money but if someone says its too big a job then dont be so arrogant thinking you know better, i have buddies with no tools that i hire when i dont have a time limit on the harvest etc

what about doing a newsfeed post like the facs post that someone can click to do the work, that way you can post all your work, when someone clicks and does it, it can just say expired which will mean that i dont have to hang around waiting for someone to come online to work

[oldstaff]

I have a combine, which I advertise but part of my very name says I do not compete with no tool workers. Most don't bother reading the names and when I get to a farm with no tool workers i message the hirer to remind them look at my name and leave the farm to the no tool who needs the points. It does not help that so many jerks will hire both no tool and big tools for the same farms!

it also doesnt help when jerks with tools take all the work, if i have a single clicker co worker then i message to say dont worry ill do my half and leave the rest, some say thanks, some dont,
people arnt always honest about what tools they have or their points either, i have had satisfaction on 1 jerk tho who replied that he was low level and no tools and turned out he was lying on max level and all tools when i hired him, a fire button was so badly needed but instead when i went back to the MP he was there again saying low level famer wanting work and i was able to let every one know he was a liar and prevented people hiring him, just so annoying when people have to lie in a game

[Oklahoma Rose]

I too agree about the plowing stuff. I don't typically hire the same people to harvest and plow. Sometimes I just like to plow my own farm. If people don't want to harvest my crops without complaining about plowing I would appreciate if they would just leave my farm and I will hire people who are happy to be harvesting my crops.

I'm also kind of sick of people who think they are entitled to my entire farm when I hire them. I'll hire 2-3 people depending on the conditions in the market place. I don't have time to sit around and wait for people to respond. If I don't get a quick response there I move on to hiring the next person I see there which results in, sometimes, a lot of people hired. If you don't like it leave my farm and get hired at some one elses but don't tell me how many people to hire on my farm.
I agree. I have never complained about not being paid to plow even when I was not hired to do that. It's habit to do so I guess. Reared to leave something finished and better than it was when I arrived. Never thought perhaps the farmer would prefer to do their own plowing. My issue has been not being paid for jobs I was hired to do and it's always been the same farms. Thanks for the comments. Now when I'm hired, I won't plow when not hired for that specific job. It just never mattered, I guess, if I was paid to do that. I just did it.

[Oklahoma Rose]

it also doesnt help when jerks with tools take all the work, if i have a single clicker co worker then i message to say dont worry ill do my half and leave the rest, some say thanks, some dont,
people arnt always honest about what tools they have or their points either, i have had satisfaction on 1 jerk tho who replied that he was low level and no tools and turned out he was lying on max level and all tools when i hired him, a fire button was so badly needed but instead when i went back to the MP he was there again saying low level famer wanting work and i was able to let every one know he was a liar and prevented people hiring him, just so annoying when people have to lie in a game
There is really no excuse for lying in any game or under-rating yourself to storm over the top of other players. I love the hiring part of Farm Town. Far as I know, this is the only game that has this feature and I love it. It's a learning experience which does go with real world farming or industry: survival while building and growing. With every job assignment I take, I learn something new that will help me as I grow as a player and a farming tycoon. I love the factory work because it lets me know what plants and businesses await down the road for me. There are some farmers who hire who are unfair, as they are in the real world. It makes it difficult to communicate with either the farmer or at the hire market when your Chat Box and Msg Boxes don't work and Support insists you must be trying to use it in Full Screen when you are not because you can't and know this.

This has been an issue for me now for a week. So when I want hired all I can do is just stand there and wait for a job to appear. I've been on multi hire jobs with players who state they don't have their own tools and show up and whiz over the top of other hires and return to the market to chat about doing so. Uncool!!! I don't all the equipment I need as a new farmer. I certainly don't have if I wanted to build my FT world around commerical job contracts and hiring myself out to do that in lieu of building my farming estates and empire. Probably won't.

Thanks for your comments. It's good to hear some of the farmers are as annoyed with some of the hires as some of us who hire out are annoyed with being --- literally -- plowed over the top of and cut out of money we need. I had 2 jobs today like that and both were complicated by other issues: the game glitched and flipped right back into Facebook so I was only on the job for perhaps 5 minutes and being mowed over by 3 other players with commerical grade wood harvesting equipment they claimed not to have.

Have a blessed day

[Oklahoma Rose]

i agree about people getting too picky and demanding, i had someone who accepted the hire then when she arrived and i just said hi said sorry thats too impersonable i like to chat with the people who hire me and promptly left, when i went back to the market she was there and had the cheek when i posted i needed a worker said yes please! when i said i hired you and my work wasnt good enough cos i dont want to spend my time talking instead of playing the game she told me i had an attitude!

i make it clear when i hire if its harvest only and still people ask to plow and get snotty when i say no, it would be nice if people appreciated the work theyre offered without nagging for other stuff, rarely do people even say thank you for being hired, i wish they would remember that plowing isnt a right and someone has to harvest before you can plow so dont refuse work cos you have to harvest first, remember that maybe i dont have time to become their latest BFF in order for them to do the work they asked for and if you dont have tools and someone says a job is too big for a single clicker dont say you will do it - i dont have time to wait for someone to single click some layered farms it takes too long and im ususally waiting to plant but the second i hire someone else they moan. i know lots of people are new to the game and getting tools takes time and money but if someone says its too big a job then dont be so arrogant thinking you know better, i have buddies with no tools that i hire when i dont have a time limit on the harvest etc

what about doing a newsfeed post like the facs post that someone can click to do the work, that way you can post all your work, when someone clicks and does it, it can just say expired which will mean that i dont have to hang around waiting for someone to come online to work
That's actually an awesome idea!!! Would be better for some of us new farmers who also hire out. The Workers Wanted List could be a drop down box at the farms of those who work on a regular basis. We would then have the option of checking that work box each time we sign into the game. Provide vital details on the job: work to be done, acreage, equpment preferred, etc. We can accept it, go, come home, be done with it. Awesome idea!!! If this were provided to those farmers who hire out and have proven themselves, it would make life easier for all of us. Workers wouldn't be run over by those who lie about the equipment they have, and farmers wouldn't have their time wasted with jabber mouths or hires who do a half-way job and leave.

[Taz D]

I agree. I have never complained about not being paid to plow even when I was not hired to do that. It's habit to do so I guess. Reared to leave something finished and better than it was when I arrived. Never thought perhaps the farmer would prefer to do their own plowing. My issue has been not being paid for jobs I was hired to do and it's always been the same farms. Thanks for the comments. Now when I'm hired, I won't plow when not hired for that specific job. It just never mattered, I guess, if I was paid to do that. I just did it.
Just as a point of information. You can only do jobs you have been hired for. So if you are able to plow then you were hired to plow.

[Jean's Farm]

I think a lot of the asking to be hired to plow stems from when we were not able to do that in the initial hiring. A lot of older players will ask you to plow cause that's what we did when we were finished harvesting. :)

I would love to be able to hire in advance my usual harvesting partner when I am away from home or not able to meet him. That way he could go do the farms I want him to do and he knows what I want done and what I don't. I would not have to worry about what he was doing etc. If he's not available now, I do my own farms.

I so many times have gone to the market....just stood there and have gotten hired. When I get to the farm it's all done or mostly done with at lease 6 people working on it. :( When I was hiring from the market and I never got the response, I went and checked my farm to see if they were there before I rehired someone else. And, 9 times out of 10 the game will tell you if someone is doing something at your farm when you are not even there. So, there should not be problems with over hiring at your farms. If I get to a farm that has to many people I usually just say "to many people....thanks" and leave. I have also had rude people, who come in after I have started the farm and go immediately to where I am working. It's a big farm....why go to where I am??? :confused: Go get your own corner. :D

[wsbohannon]

I don't enjoy the abuse I receive for telling people that I won't hire them to plough - especially when I have a layered farm. I try to tell them that I don't see the use in it as it won't work, and even link them to the thread about layered farms, but they continue to abuse me. There are so many players on my ignore list that it's actually quite annoying. I'm always a very placid farmer; I do as I'm told, make idle conversation and politely request to plough afterwards - sometimes I refuse an offer to plough as I'm feeling particularly charitable and want the person I'm working with to get the exp from ploughing. I don't particularly need it, after all, it's just a nice little thing to fill my spare time. I can't understand some peoples' obsession with ploughing. It's just EXP, and there's no need to be rude over it. :rolleyes:

I personally usually only ever try to hire two to three people to harvest at my farm; however, when I hire people and don't get a response quickly [within thirty seconds to one minute], I go and hire the next person in the marketplace. As a result, people have responded very late to my hire requests, come to my farm when there is very little work left, and proceeded to abuse me and accuse me of over-hiring for entertainment. I don't mind that there isn't a fire button, but I'm very thankful that there's an ignore button. I don't have the patience to deal with people who won't listen when I attempt to reason with them an offer an explanation. I'm kind enough to bother explaining myself to rude employees - they should learn to be kind enough to bother to listen to my explanation.

I also don't like people who believe that they have the right to harvest and plow my whole farm on their own. I know that a lot of my farm is taken up by decorative structures, trees, flowers and fencing, but I also know that there are still plenty of crops to harvest, especially as I tend to plant crops which have high monetary returns. Occasionally I've hired one person when I've felt like spoiling them or when I've only been satisfied with the behaviour of one person in the marketplace, and upon telling them that they have the whole harvest to themselves, have received such comments as "I like to work alone." or "I would have left if you had hired someone else." Well, with an attitude like that, I want them to leave. I've often gone back to the marketplace and hired another person anyway [yes, out of spite] to show them that it's a game that involves working for things and that they can't have things handed to them on a silver platter. The people in the marketplace who post such comments as "I work ALONE!" also find themselves on my ignore list. It's just selfish. They really need to go back to primary school and listen to their teachers when they're being told about the benefits of sharing.

If people just approached the Internet with a sense of etiquette and a reminder that the people on the other side of the screen are real people, this whole "Internetz r srs bsns" attitude would be dropped altogether, and I for one would be very happy. I don't need to cop this from rude employees; I could have just as easily hired somebody else entirely to do my work, and instead they complain that there isn't much left when they gave me the impression that they were AFK, or that I won't let them plow when I have a layered farm or am rearranging my plots.


Totally agree with you here my friend. I couldn't have said it better myself. I've gotten to the point where i just do my own work... it's JuST A GAME and some people treat it like more than that... Thanks for expressing it so nicely...

[Sheramoi]

I hire solo only because my experience is that most people on FT don't know what "share" means. To most, "share" means, snag the most for myself that I can, even if I'm working over the top of an area where someone else obviously is working". I don't like that. If I have 12 farms and sometimes I need them all harvested at once. I go to the market 12 times and hire one person for each farm. I get 12 happy people instead of 10 angry people and partially unfinished work.
I also try, when the person starts, to send them a message so that, if they get bumped, they can get back to the farm and get re-hired.

I don't like the people who come and then leave because they think the job is too small for them.

Still, I do wish the game had a "fire" button. For those rare times.

[thonotosassa49]

When I go to the market to hire, I will sit and observe the people in there. In no time at all, you can figure who NOT to hire.I hire one person to h/p all 11 farms solo. They love it.

I have one farm completely full of oaks and I only hire one person to do it. I even had one person ask for it even though he did not have a chainsaw. He stayed with it until he was done and was a happy camper to have the whole field to himself even though he chopped one tree at a time.

[Oklahoma Rose]

You still can. The original how-to thread hasn't been vaporized, just closed. A search on "unofficial layering" or "layering technique" will find it fairly quickly. Copy the URL when you find it, paste it into a blank notepad document or similar, save the document on your desktop, and you'll have it for as long as you want to refer to it.

Added: delete the words at the end of the URL (they'll be whatever words you searched on) back to the post number, that's all you really need.


Nov 27, 2011

In reply to Techniques of Layered Farming: May I suggest you contact Lisa Astrup on this? Spent an hour online with me last night while I was harvesting her crops telling me about layered farms, taking me to her farms to show me the technique in action, and sent me a link to a YouTube video which goes over this technique in detail and has more advanced videos as one gets familiar with the very complicated but fascinating process. Having only one farm right now, I am not ready to experiment with this but it is a difficult process to learn and highly detailed but awesomely productive.

Those with multi farms that are high-tech processes and planning would help all of us if they did not assume we all what they are talking about or all the detailed work involved. Also, you started out on Level 1 so you know how farm one must advance to be able to purchase most commercial harvesters. All players can not afford to lay out their own cash to purchase this equipment with Game Bucks. You were new once. Kindly be patient with us.

I have some awesome mentors and have had since day one. I can't say enough about them, but I have also encountered some really crappy multi farm owners as I did today on a job hire in which I harvested mangos and coconut, a portion of which was to be credited to me. I needed these for my ice cream factory as my trees will not be ready for another 2.5 days. When I returned to my farm to go to market after checking on my crops, I discovered these items were not credited to me by FTD Farms. This is not the first time this has happened to me. It happenes every time I work for Johnny Walker, so when you complain about workers, keep in mind there are some crappy multi farm owners who have cheated several of us.

Clean up your farmers and your worker issues might vanish.

Thanks! Oklahoma Rose

[Oklahoma Rose]

When I go to the market to hire, I will sit and observe the people in there. In no time at all, you can figure who NOT to hire.I hire one person to h/p all 11 farms solo. They love it.

I have one farm completely full of oaks and I only hire one person to do it. I even had one person ask for it even though he did not have a chainsaw. He stayed with it until he was done and was a happy camper to have the whole field to himself even though he chopped one tree at a time.

I have done the same and also prefer it. I don't have chainsaws either. I have also gone out on multi hire jobs with people who stated in the Market they did not have chainsaws and showed up with equipment to harvest half the planet and mowed over the top of me and a few others who were honest with the person hiring us and in the original post to obtain a job. This is not a first with other workers lying and undercutting workers who truly don't have that equipment and can't get it because we have not reached the level needed to do so. It isn't that we don't want to obtain it. We can't, even when we have the funds to do so.

This mowing over the top of other workers who also need the cash to build their farms isn't right, nor is it right and fair the way some of the farmers treat and cheat the workers. I've had it happen 3 times. Fortunately, I have more assignments from totally awesome farmers than bad ones but all it takes is 2 or 3 multi level **** heads to make workers feel the need to take revenge on the next person who hires them.

I made an awesome $5.5 MILLION working factories for a new farmer who was referred to hire me by my regulars. I hope he does so again. I was not cheated one dime, nor 1% of my share.

But when you take a fruit harvest job for crops you need for your factories and believe taking that job and its rewards will save you from having to buy the crops needed until your own trees are ready, and then you are cheated, it doesn't do much for the reputation of the farmer who did this because the workers talk among themselves and we report it here. It would be nice if the multi level farmers started cleaning up their counterparts. One complaint of such behavior should be all it takes. Makes it worse when Support does not reply to such complaints nor to complaints I've issued several times in less than a week over my Chat Boxes not working (no, I wasn't in Fullscreen Mode. I work that way. I don't Chat that way.) so I could not head to the market to post this cheating by FTD Farms.

I've been bilked 3 times in 3 weeks: twice by the same farmer, different farms.


Thank you --- Oklahoma Rose

[Taz D]

I made an awesome $5.5 MILLION working factories for a new farmer who was referred to hire me by my regulars. I hope he does so again. I was not cheated one dime, nor 1% of my share.

But when you take a fruit harvest job for crops you need for your factories and believe taking that job and its rewards will save you from having to buy the crops needed until your own trees are ready, and then you are cheated, it doesn't do much for the reputation of the farmer who did this because the workers talk among themselves and we report it here. It would be nice if the multi level farmers started cleaning up their counterparts. One complaint of such behavior should be all it takes. Makes it worse when Support does not reply to such complaints nor to complaints I've issued several times in less than a week over my Chat Boxes not working (no, I wasn't in Fullscreen Mode. I work that way. I don't Chat that way.) so I could not head to the market to post this cheating by FTD Farms.

I've been bilked 3 times in 3 weeks: twice by the same farmer, different farms.


Thank you --- Oklahoma Rose
Just to clarify one point. The farmer does not have any control over what you receive for working for them. What you get which is only 20% of the crop plus 25% of the value comes from the "mayor" or in other words the game. So telling everyone about a farmer like you want to would be telling them a lie about the person.

The amount you receive goes directly into your storage so unless you know in advance what you are going to harvest and can check how much you have then how do you know you were "cheated" out of your reward?

I am trying to figure out how you worked someones facilities if you are not their neighbor because those are the only ones you are supposed to be able to do that for.

[WildRoseBeef]

As far as hiring is concerned, so far I've had some luck with the people I get to harvest my crops, trees, and flowers. I've had a number that just leave without leaving a thank-you note even if I was hired to do some work on another farm, or don't even say "your welcome" or "no problem" or whatever even when I thank them. But, I've also had a number that were kind enough to say "thanks" for being hired. And I appreciate that, and even say as much to them.

As far as the plowing is concerned, I've been pretty lucky (knock on wood) that I haven't had anybody get snarky with me if I don't hire them to plow. There's a reason that I don't want them to plow, and its either a) because I need to clear some fields to make some necessary improvements to where all my capital and assets are going to be, or b) because I would rather do it myself. If they have a problem with me not hiring to plow fields, well that's just too bad: it's their problem, not mine. Just ignore them (and I don't mean by pressing the ignore button on them) if they start getting their panties in a knot, and they'll eventually give up and leave. ;)

I've had one guy who I hired that came too late to harvest anything, and to say the least he was a bit disappointed. But I didn't say anything back, there was no need since everything was done already. I didn't get rude with him and tell him that he had to leave because everything was all done, I just patiently and quietly went about my business on my farm until he finally got the point and left.

There's no reason why someone should be so crabby because they never get to plow someone's fields. All it takes is just a touch of courtesy and etiquette to politely ASK if plowing needs to be done. If someone doesn't hire me to plow and they're on the same field with me, all I do is just ask "Can I plow for you too?" And if I get hired, great! If I don't, either by a simple "No," "No thanks" or no response after a minute or two, then I just tip my hat and take my leave and say thanks for the hire anyway. This goes for the same thing if trees need to be harvested or chopped and flowers need to be harvested. If they don't want me to harvest/chop trees and flowers, that's just fine. I've done my job there, thanks for the hire, and move on to something else.

As far as the activity of being hired, I find that the less you say the more likely you'll get hired. ;) I put anybody who starts screaming that they want to be hired on my ignore list and that includes anybody who starts creating these unnecessary messages that are long and irritating (like "HIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" repeatedly over and over again) or anything similar, they go on my ignore list. I've had to block another user that looked like he had ants in his pants he was moving around so much! Yeah, you can move around a lot, but not so much that you can't even sit still long enough for an employer to click on him to even hire him! If you're going to be acting like that, you might as well be playing PacMan than getting hired on FarmTown.

I like solo (and yes I know about the act of sharing too, don't worry about that, for those of you who despise players who like to do solo work) for the reason that I don't have to be literally fighting and competing with users that are faster clickers than me or have "All Tools." I agree that a lot of users need to back to elementary school to learn about sharing. Every time I get hired on with a bunch of other people I get this sense that it's a game of who-gets-to-harvest/plow/chop-the-fastest-and-the-most. It's really annoying, especially when someone who is arrogant enough to not leave the little patch of crop or harvested field for me to finish up and "helps" you finish it. Help my ***!! (I admit, though, that I've been bad for doing that to other people too, on occasion, and that is something that I've been working on. Usually I'm good about leaving a patch for someone else to clean up while I work on it) Sometimes I've also had someone work on the same piece that I'm on even though there's a whole farm to work on. If they're going to be like that, I just either move to a different part, or if they're being consistently rude, then I just leave to wait for another hire.

But the main reason, as I mentioned above, that I prefer solo work is that I don't have to worry about whether the other person or people being hired are going to start playing a competition game with me. I have several farms to work on, and I'll stay there until the job is done, and literally work at my own pace without having to break the Guinness World Record for number of mouse-clicks per second. My finger gets a little sore after a while because I don't have all the tools yet, but at least it's a little extra money in the bank and some extra stuff to sell on the market, and I'm satisfied that it's one more farm that has a job done.

I've also been hired to something that's already been done. Part of the time it's my fault because I was either away from the computer or working on something else on a different page and didn't see the hire request come up. I have to accept the request anyway because who knows what work is left on the farm for me? If there's no work to be done, I just leave, sometimes saying thanks for the hire, but everything looks to be done already. Other times it's the fault of the employer because they hired too many people at one time to harvest one field, or harvest one that had the 5x5 combine tool. I've had a couple of experiences where one "farmer" (more of a swindler than a farmer) hired a dozen people only to find that the field or whatever was done already. A few weeks ago I and a number of others were hired to a farm where there was a message written in the field that said "SUCKERS!" How in the heck can someone be so benevolent?? Sure it's a joke to them, but you wonder how they would feel if someone did that to them? I'll bet your boots that they wouldn't appreciate it any either!

I know I could go on forever (and beat a dead horse in the process, as I'm sure this has been discussed over and over again on here), but I think that pretty much covers my say on the hiring and being-hired process of Farm Town. But don't get me wrong: this is actually my favoritest (if that's a word) farm/agriculture-related game on Facebook. I've played on a bunch of others, and none of those games can hold a candle to what FarmTown has to offer. :)

[lollipopthebunny]

I have a suggestion regarding the market place an hiring. It would be nice if the developers would make it so You can either hire people with NO TOOLS to work all your farms OR someone with TOOLS. It has gotten real bad in the market trying to get a job an when going there the person hired several with no tools an then someone that has tools! I usually leave when that happens to me.

[thonotosassa49]

It seems like there are a lot of bad employers out there. I only hire solo for my 11 fields. If all they have is 4x4 and have to harvest and then plow, so be it. I am not impatient. They need the points, etc. If they have no tools, then I hire them for two fields and let them take their time. Life is too short to hurry about. :)

[blue nile]

I've been taking jobs from the market recently (i have all the tools and will do any job and work away preferably on my own but i'm not fussy!) Anyway what makes me feel uncomfortable is when the person hiring me takes me to another farm to plow when someone without tools is harvesting away happily. i think they should at least wait until the person finishes. I'm afraid i just left. There was no thank you or conversation when i did their other farms before this! However i have mostly had good experiences and it's only now and then that people irritate me lol

[adinar]

I've been taking jobs from the market recently (i have all the tools and will do any job and work away preferably on my own but i'm not fussy!) Anyway what makes me feel uncomfortable is when the person hiring me takes me to another farm to plow when someone without tools is harvesting away happily. i think they should at least wait until the person finishes. I'm afraid i just left. There was no thank you or conversation when i did their other farms before this! However i have mostly had good experiences and it's only now and then that people irritate me lol

I totally agree with you ! when i go to the MKP to hire I usually hire one person if they have the combine and I have alot of farms ready If they don't have the tools i hire them for 2 farms but I don't expect them to share with anyone it's theirs to work.I myself prefer to be hired solo as I've gone to too many farms that have 3 or 4 working on the same farm with no tools and the farmer expects me to take away their work I'm sorry I refuse to do that! I feel the farmer should really be responsible enough especially if he has 11 or 12 farms ready to assign specific farms to either each individual depending on how many he hires or each to a specific task such as trees, fish etc. I've also been to farms that when there's already a person there with the combine that i'll either leave that farm and go to the next and yet when i do the person is so greedy that she/he has to follow and grab as much as they can or berates me for even going for a share I don't hog so that's the reason why I prefer solo really.Twice I was called foul names in private chat because i was only taking a share the hired person felt it all belonged to her another time when I went to a farm and saw 5 ppl with no tools working one small farm I remarked that I wasn't needed and was told in chat that I had no right to decide how many the farmer wanted to hire and to shut the bleep up and do the bleeping work! suffice to say i put those two ppl on permanent ignore! Overall I enjoy this game over everyother farm game there is on facebook and I have no intentions on moving over to another game and I've been playing this game since 2009

[pixierobinson24]

WORK FOR YOURSELF... I need the points to level up, and you are the rude player. I do a fantastic job, often clean up after messey workers. You need to work for yourself first to determine how a job needs to be compleated... It is not a jump from here to there trying to complete work. It is LIKE REALITY

[Oklahoma Rose]

I actually appreciate farmers who do not want you to plow their farms, especially the layered farms. This is a difficult technique to learn and one I admire. I first heard about from a friend, Lisa Astrup, who spent over an hour one evening teaching me about the technique and providing links so I could learn how to do this when I have my second farm. I won't try it until then because to do so, I'd have to go to more effort on my first farm than I want to now that I have it loaded to the max with "stuff" around crops.

I don't want anyone plowing for me. I just like to do it myself. It's my first farm here and with all the other issues I've had with this game (including the disappearance of a recently purchased Sandwich Shop that, less than 24 hours old, vanished while in full production, as did a new and full rabbit hutch less than 4 hrs from harvest, and several Christmas decorations.) I've tried to hire people and even some I hired were the same ones with larger farms who kept sending me msgs about working for me now that they hired me, they didn't show, one did but didn't want to fish which is what I contracted out.

Some of the larger farmers are so awesome and so helpful to the newcomers. I have friends and mentors who are, but some are downright horses' behinds. I, too, have a **** list --- of workers I won't hire and farmers I won't ever work for again, nor do business with in Market.

Just wanted to add my 2 cents worth to your complaint.

Have a blessed day!

[Oklahoma Rose]

I don't enjoy the abuse I receive for telling people that I won't hire them to plough - especially when I have a layered farm. I try to tell them that I don't see the use in it as it won't work, and even link them to the thread about layered farms, but they continue to abuse me. There are so many players on my ignore list that it's actually quite annoying. I'm always a very placid farmer; I do as I'm told, make idle conversation and politely request to plough afterwards - sometimes I refuse an offer to plough as I'm feeling particularly charitable and want the person I'm working with to get the exp from ploughing. I don't particularly need it, after all, it's just a nice little thing to fill my spare time. I can't understand some peoples' obsession with ploughing. It's just EXP, and there's no need to be rude over it. :rolleyes:

I personally usually only ever try to hire two to three people to harvest at my farm; however, when I hire people and don't get a response quickly [within thirty seconds to one minute], I go and hire the next person in the marketplace. As a result, people have responded very late to my hire requests, come to my farm when there is very little work left, and proceeded to abuse me and accuse me of over-hiring for entertainment. I don't mind that there isn't a fire button, but I'm very thankful that there's an ignore button. I don't have the patience to deal with people who won't listen when I attempt to reason with them an offer an explanation. I'm kind enough to bother explaining myself to rude employees - they should learn to be kind enough to bother to listen to my explanation.

I also don't like people who believe that they have the right to harvest and plow my whole farm on their own. I know that a lot of my farm is taken up by decorative structures, trees, flowers and fencing, but I also know that there are still plenty of crops to harvest, especially as I tend to plant crops which have high monetary returns. Occasionally I've hired one person when I've felt like spoiling them or when I've only been satisfied with the behaviour of one person in the marketplace, and upon telling them that they have the whole harvest to themselves, have received such comments as "I like to work alone." or "I would have left if you had hired someone else." Well, with an attitude like that, I want them to leave. I've often gone back to the marketplace and hired another person anyway [yes, out of spite] to show them that it's a game that involves working for things and that they can't have things handed to them on a silver platter. The people in the marketplace who post such comments as "I work ALONE!" also find themselves on my ignore list. It's just selfish. They really need to go back to primary school and listen to their teachers when they're being told about the benefits of sharing.

If people just approached the Internet with a sense of etiquette and a reminder that the people on the other side of the screen are real people, this whole "Internetz r srs bsns" attitude would be dropped altogether, and I for one would be very happy. I don't need to cop this from rude employees; I could have just as easily hired somebody else entirely to do my work, and instead they complain that there isn't much left when they gave me the impression that they were AFK, or that I won't let them plow when I have a layered farm or am rearranging my plots.
I actually appreciate farmers who do not want you to plow their farms, especially the layered farms. This is a difficult technique to learn and one I admire. I first heard about from a friend, Lisa Astrup, who spent over an hour one evening teaching me about the technique and providing links so I could learn how to do this when I have my second farm. I won't try it until then because to do so, I'd have to go to more effort on my first farm than I want to now that I have it loaded to the max with "stuff" around crops.

I don't want anyone plowing for me. I just like to do it myself. It's my first farm here and with all the other issues I've had with this game (including the disappearance of a recently purchased Sandwich Shop that, less than 24 hours old, vanished while in full production, as did a new and full rabbit hutch less than 4 hrs from harvest, and several Christmas decorations.) I've tried to hire people and even some I hired were the same ones with larger farms who kept sending me msgs about working for me now that they hired me, they didn't show, one did but didn't want to fish which is what I contracted out.

Some of the larger farmers are so awesome and so helpful to the newcomers. I have friends and mentors who are, but some are downright horses' behinds. I, too, have a **** list --- of workers I won't hire and farmers I won't ever work for again, nor do business with in Market.

Just wanted to add my 2 cents worth to your complaint.

Have a blessed day!

[MsPotter]

hiring practices at the marketplace: It seems there should be an easier way to hire someone for a job. Perhaps the marketplace could be divided into sections and workers could stand in the section they want to be hired for. Likewise; there should be a section where farmers can stand if they don't want to be hired but are in the marketplace to hire.
I rarely have time to spend in the marketplace looking for that special farmer that will do the particular task I need done... and therefore, end up doing most of the work on my own farm..
is this problem being addressed? or am I missing something.

warmest regards
Ms Beatrix Potter

[thonotosassa49]

I even put "NO HIRE" with my name and they continue to bug me to work for them. That annoys me. When I go to the market, I am there to hire, not work. They should should have an option where we can block hire requests. Just my two cents.

[snow_angel]

I even put "NO HIRE" with my name and they continue to bug me to work for them. That annoys me. When I go to the market, I am there to hire, not work. They should should have an option where we can block hire requests. Just my two cents.

Maybe they think it means you're not there to hire. Try putting "DO NOT HIRE".

[Oklahoma Rose]

hiring practices at the marketplace: It seems there should be an easier way to hire someone for a job. Perhaps the marketplace could be divided into sections and workers could stand in the section they want to be hired for. Likewise; there should be a section where farmers can stand if they don't want to be hired but are in the marketplace to hire.
I rarely have time to spend in the marketplace looking for that special farmer that will do the particular task I need done... and therefore, end up doing most of the work on my own farm..
is this problem being addressed? or am I missing something.

warmest regards
Ms Beatrix Potter

No, you didn't miss anything, Beatrix, and the issue probably is not being dealt with. A better option would be for each farm, regardless of level, to have a drop-down permanent menu of all hires for that farm(s) owned by a specific player. Beside each name should be what the person was hired to do and the date with a small Comments for the farmer doing the hiring to add a short comment after job completed: "Hire again", "Didn't complete job", "Don't hire again", "Own tools", "Uses clickers" --- something of that nature. Then when we work again that we want to contract out, we can go to our menu, send a msg to the previously hired worker and wait for them to respond. Ideally, this msg would be sent an hour or so BEFORE the crop is due in to give the worker time to be online, check their FB page or email, and respond.

All of us don't live online all day and sometimes don't get our msgs or see them. It doesn't help when a farmer posts a job on their own FB wall and not on the wall of whom he/she wishes to hire because all of us don't run down the list of whom we worked for, or our regular clients, or our relatives and best friends to see if they posted a job on their page and not our's. This is an issue. I have to do this with my regulars even they know my FB wall and my gmail.

Farmers hiring also need to give their regular workers some time to respond. Many post a job, wait 10 minutes, do the job themselves, then leave the posting. By the time we see it, the job has been done and we get tacky msgs from the Hiring Farmer because they expected us to be living in their Farm or FB page, waiting on them to post a hire request.

Have a great day and Happy Holidays!

Also, you add me as a Neighbor. I could use a few more also. You may also add me as a regular worker: I do not use clickers, nor have I reached the level where I can purchase all the upgraded larger plow/harvest/fish equipment but I bust my rear by hand and could use the extra xp and crops.

I also have regular client farmers I work for, including in their factories. This helps them and myself. You may add me as a regular for you anytime you need. Just give me time to respond. I don't know where you live but if it is outside the USA, there is also a time frame matter to consider when posting requests. We all have to sleep sometime.

[adinar]

hiring practices at the marketplace: It seems there should be an easier way to hire someone for a job. Perhaps the marketplace could be divided into sections and workers could stand in the section they want to be hired for. Likewise; there should be a section where farmers can stand if they don't want to be hired but are in the marketplace to hire.
I rarely have time to spend in the marketplace looking for that special farmer that will do the particular task I need done... and therefore, end up doing most of the work on my own farm..
is this problem being addressed? or am I missing something.

warmest regards
Ms Beatrix Potter

I try to use my buddy list as much as possible and i started that list from the ppl that I found thru time in the marketplace. It solves alot of problems that way and i've made many friends as well as neighbors from the list

[pythonis]

As I do not abide layering or stacking if i get an offer to harvest without plowing i decline the offer plus ignore the person as im quite sure they have a layered or stacked farm. I may be wrong on occasion but i really dont want to ever have to deal with them again just in case

[iam1to]

i like the new factory hire feature (where only farms with factories are highlighted) but there is something me (and think others) dont like - that is about the "factories" that are not workable for neighbors (like animal barns and oil pumps) - for the sake of the new hire feature those should not be highlighted as a workable factory (or should be allowed as a workable factory) - since many people have 1 on most farms (to kinda keep up with the needs of the other factories) but not have a "regular" workable factory on every farm - some people do not fill every factory every time they fill and post hire - it is harder to know for sure if a farm has a workable factory or an animal barn/oil pump on those highlighted farms

[al_bundy]

i like the new factory hire feature (where only farms with factories are highlighted) but there is something me (and think others) dont like - that is about the "factories" that are not workable for neighbors (like animal barns and oil pumps) - for the sake of the new hire feature those should not be highlighted as a workable factory (or should be allowed as a workable factory) - since many people have 1 on most farms (to kinda keep up with the needs of the other factories) but not have a "regular" workable factory on every farm - some people do not fill every factory every time they fill and post hire - it is harder to know for sure if a farm has a workable factory or an animal barn/oil pump on those highlighted farms

Hi when did you experience this that farms with only a animal barn or non workable facility?

the reason i ask is this is supposed to have been fixed and i have worked a lot of my neighbours facilities today and only the farms with workable facilities were hilighted.

[skancam]

I to use my buddy list when ever possible. I also only hire one worker so I don't have to deal with the racing and drama on my farms.:(
I have to say that I am one of those "solo" workers. I have the tools and I still get run over by others with tools. It just doesn't make it much fun when that happens. So what I do when that happens is say thank you and leave. I tell people I work solo so they have the option of hiring me knowing this ahead of time and alot still hire me with others. I don't mind it at all if the others share but not to many do.. :(

[Kath-H]

The hiring system is just broken from my point of view. I gave up on hiring some time back but today I tried again. I hired 4 people, all solo, for different jobs on different farms. Only one completed the task. Until there is some kind of incentive, like a rating sytem, for people to do the job they accepted, and do it properly, it's more trouble than it's worth, I'll just do it myself.

[deb3733]

I was wondering if we can get ahold of a person that hired us? I was hired and unfortunatley got kicked off before I could finish and I just want to apologize to this person. She was nice enough to hire me and I had every intention on finishing until I got kicked off. Is there anyway to find a person that hired you? Thanks

[Taz D]

I was wondering if we can get ahold of a person that hired us? I was hired and unfortunatley got kicked off before I could finish and I just want to apologize to this person. She was nice enough to hire me and I had every intention on finishing until I got kicked off. Is there anyway to find a person that hired you? Thanks
Unfortunately no there isn't. Unless you see them again in the market place

[BethFB]

Problem:

A-hole players that spam the market place with UNSOLICITED hire requests because they are too lazy/too rude/too inconsiderate/etc to follow any decency to type a simple request like "Hiring harvesters" in the main chat window.

I'm tired of going to the market place and being bombarbed with unsolicited hire requests as soon as i enter the market place.

I'm tired of trying to hire farmers and receiving unsolicited hire requests.

I'm tired of going to the market place, running to a corner of the market place to avoid "a-hole hirers" and still receiving unsolicited hire requests. The barstools deliberately do it.

I'm tired of not being able to ignore "a-hole hirers" because they are too quick. They spam the market place with hire requests, then get as many as they can, then they leave.

Solution 1:
The solution to the problem is so simple it begs the question "WHY havent the developers implemented it".

Process-
- farmer clicks map, selects market place
- popup is displayed, farmer is displayed with the following options:
- I want to hire (farmer selects and enters market place)
- i want to work (farmer selects and is presented with a popup containing the following options)
-- I want to harvest Crops and Trees
-- I want to harvest Crops and flowers
-- I want to harvest crops
-- I want to plow
-- I want to fish

The farmers that want to hire enter the market place with a 'H' (for identification purposes) on over either their head or overalls.

The farmers that want work enter the market place with either a symbol/image or letter of which work they want. ie a plower will have a letter 'P' or a image of a plow over their head or on their overall.

A few exceptions wrapped around it, ie a hirer cant be hired, etc.

I love your suggestion. I really hope it can be added to the marketplace as I get tired contending with getting asked to do a farm when I'm there to hire people to harvest and plow my fields and pick my trees and fish for me. I had to deny one and edit my message that I was posting to include I am not here to get jobs, I'm here to hire people. I need harvesters/plowers, tree shakers, flower harvesters and fishing people for 13 farms. Anyone interested?

And I end up getting about twenty people wanting to help, out of those twenty, I get only about five people as the rest were hired underneath me by other people. And it was clear to everyone that they asked to be hired by me, not anyone else.

Beth

[barbara nixon]

Beth.....sounds like u need some "u do my farms i'll do urs".neighbors like i have in my group..then u wouldn't have to go to the market except to sell..i don't hire or do work from the market anymore..

[kurlikew]

First, I'll say there are two problems inherent with these message boards: (1) it's impossible to read through the hundreds of posts on any given thread to see if there is already something posted that's relevant to what you have to say, and (2) only a handful of people are likely to ever see your post anyway due to the aforementioned reason.


That said, I'll post this anyway. Here are some rules of etiquette (as we civilized human beings see them) when playing Farm Town:


First, if you're going to hire people to work in your facilities, it makes sense to make sure that they are condensed onto as few farms as possible so that your workers don't have to jump around to a bunch of different farms (and thus have to wait for each one to load, which can take a while). I can tell you I own every facility that's currently available, and even have multiples of some, and I have them all on four farms, and all my service facilities on one farm.


When looking for work in the marketplace: be polite and friendly, and DON'T BEG! I HATE it when people fill up the screen with things like "hire meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" or "plllllllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" or some equally stupid thing! Remember those niceties your mama tried to teach you growing up - those things called "manners"? Well, USE THEM! Say please and thank you, and have the courtesty to speak to the people who hire you (or whom YOU hire). You don't have to be buddies or anything, but this IS a social game, after all. If you come to my farm to work, I will always speak to you, and frankly I am offended if you don't reply.


On that same note, if you are hired to do a job, LOOK to see if you are hired for multiple farms! The developers have made it VERY easy to tell which farms have the work you agreed to do, so don't just do one farm and then leave! And, if you accept a job, FINISH IT - don't just do the parts you want and then leave!


I'm very sure there are a great many people who will agree with these suggestions!

[kurlikew]

Beth.....sounds like u need some "u do my farms i'll do urs".neighbors like i have in my group..then u wouldn't have to go to the market except to sell..i don't hire or do work from the market anymore..


Beth, I totally agree! I always look for available neighbors to hire for work before I'll go to the market. Problem is that none of them seem to want to do it recently, even those who I used to be able to count on. Sad, isn't it? :(

[sibisan]

I like to harvest fruit trees. I, however, do not have any "tools" because I don't have the money to be buying them to play the game. On more occasions than I can possibly recall, I'll be on a farm, minding my own business, harvesting the trees, and a person with "tools" comes through and harvests EVERYTHING, leaving nothing left for me to do. They take ALL the work! And they don't CARE. I cannot compete with folks that have tree shakers. It just happened to me a few minutes ago. I am getting very fed up and will probably stop playing altogether. The playing field has become unfair.

[wsbohannon]

I like to harvest fruit trees. I, however, do not have any "tools" because I don't have the money to be buying them to play the game. On more occasions than I can possibly recall, I'll be on a farm, minding my own business, harvesting the trees, and a person with "tools" comes through and harvests EVERYTHING, leaving nothing left for me to do. They take ALL the work! And they don't CARE. I cannot compete with folks that have tree shakers. It just happened to me a few minutes ago. I am getting very fed up and will probably stop playing altogether. The playing field has become unfair.

I personally have tools and understand what you are saying... sometimes when i am hired i do look for other workers but if i can't see them in the trees, i assume noone else is there and harvest them all with my tools and see someone without tools working. It makes me feel bad that i have hogged all the work. if i see someone without tools working, i only do a few then leave the rest. People with tools are not necessarily hogging all the work. They just don't see you. I have a ton of trees that need harvesting daily and chopping. If i ever see you at the marketplace I will be happy to hire you to do them...

[Sandy Mae]

I understand! I have been with out tools and had that done! Then when I got tools I found if I work every other farm I don't take away from the person with out. I tell the one with out if they want my help just yell. But we have all started from zero and some of us need to remember that!!! And I would be happy to work for either of you as well as be neighbors!!!

[sibisan]

I personally have tools and understand what you are saying... sometimes when i am hired i do look for other workers but if i can't see them in the trees, i assume noone else is there and harvest them all with my tools and see someone without tools working. It makes me feel bad that i have hogged all the work. if i see someone without tools working, i only do a few then leave the rest. People with tools are not necessarily hogging all the work. They just don't see you. I have a ton of trees that need harvesting daily and chopping. If i ever see you at the marketplace I will be happy to hire you to do them...

Thanks:) On many occasions I have asked the person with tools to leave me some work but they carry on. I have run across some who will leave some of the work for me, but they, unfortunately, are the exception not the rule. I know there are lots of nice folks out there, I just haven't run across many lately.:( Hope to see you at the marketplace:)

[sibisan]

I understand! I have been with out tools and had that done! Then when I got tools I found if I work every other farm I don't take away from the person with out. I tell the one with out if they want my help just yell. But we have all started from zero and some of us need to remember that!!! And I would be happy to work for either of you as well as be neighbors!!!

Thanks Sandy. You are one of the exceptions:)

[Art]

When I hire and get to mult farms I see my own name with a check box. What's up with that and why don't the dev's feel they need to tell us?

[Sandy Mae]

I go to the market to get hired to harvest trees or crops. When I get there I find trees that are so tightly place it is hard to harvest them. Or the crops are over layered. First clue to this is my computer rebels. So I send a message to the person who hired me and just tell them the truth. My computer can not handle the trees or crops because of too tight on trees or crops are over layered. Then I leave. I am not trying to upset any one but my computer is more important than some one clugging up the works just because they can.

[pawtalker]

I advertise myself as a combine. I want to be hired to harvest AND plow, period. If you don't want to hire for harvest and plow, don't hire a combine.

[sharimom]

Normally when I have a lot of different things ready on all my farms, in my opinion it's a lot easier and faster for me to hire one person to fish, another to chop, another to harvest flowers, another to harvest trees, and someone to harvest crops and plow.

That's what I did today and this is the message I received ~
from "fat guy"
FIRST TIME EVER DID SOMEONE GIVE ME THE **** WORK AND SOME SON OF A ***** ALL THE HARVEST AND PLOW. YOU ARE SOMETHING LET ME TELL YA.

I replied something close to how I started this thread and said GEEZE I guess you shouldn't have accepted the work if that wasn't what you wanted to do.

I'd like some opinions, does anyone else hire a different person for each job when everything is ready or do you try to hire one person and wait, and wait and wait for them to finish?

[sharimom]

I copied and pasted the actual message he sent me but when I put it on here, **** were put in for the actual wording, thank you to the mods because after I pasted it I remembered kids were playing this game and came back to edit it myself.

[Taz D]

Normally when I have a lot of different things ready on all my farms, in my opinion it's a lot easier and faster for me to hire one person to fish, another to chop, another to harvest flowers, another to harvest trees, and someone to harvest crops and plow.

That's what I did today and this is the message I received ~
from "fat guy"
FIRST TIME EVER DID SOMEONE GIVE ME THE **** WORK AND SOME SON OF A ***** ALL THE HARVEST AND PLOW. YOU ARE SOMETHING LET ME TELL YA.

I replied something close to how I started this thread and said GEEZE I guess you shouldn't have accepted the work if that wasn't what you wanted to do.

I'd like some opinions, does anyone else hire a different person for each job when everything is ready or do you try to hire one person and wait, and wait and wait for them to finish?
In my opinion who and for what jobs you hire people is up to you.

[Farm Cash]

It's your Farm,,Do it the way you want..

If they dont like it there welcome to leave..

[goofyshoes]

Lately, I have found some people having huge hissy fits if I hire more than one, OR they spout off in the marketplace about what morons the farmers are because they don't know what a "solo hire" is. It's fun to ignore, but equally fun to ask if they know "it's just a game".. :)

[Happy pants]

I agree with Taz and Cash.... it's your farm, you can hire whoever you want for whatever jobs you want. Common courtesy is appreciated, and I can see the gentleman's point of view if he was hoping for the more profitable jobs, but in my opinion, the person lacking in courtesy in that exchange was definitely him.

[HelenJS22]

I think absolutely HIS problem, but I also know that the opinion of so many in the market place agrees with his.

[MaiBrittEhlers]

its your farm - so you do as you like....
I find it very stressfull, if a farmer hires 2-3 to harvest with big tools, then im gone again :-)

happy farming

[Tony D]

Normally when I have a lot of different things ready on all my farms, in my opinion it's a lot easier and faster for me to hire one person to fish, another to chop, another to harvest flowers, another to harvest trees, and someone to harvest crops and plow.

That's what I did today and this is the message I received ~
from "fat guy"
FIRST TIME EVER DID SOMEONE GIVE ME THE **** WORK AND SOME SON OF A ***** ALL THE HARVEST AND PLOW. YOU ARE SOMETHING LET ME TELL YA.

I replied something close to how I started this thread and said GEEZE I guess you shouldn't have accepted the work if that wasn't what you wanted to do.

I'd like some opinions, does anyone else hire a different person for each job when everything is ready or do you try to hire one person and wait, and wait and wait for them to finish?Hi, I moved your post into the rgead for hiring practices

[jason76]

I don't know if this has been brought up before, but since the majority of my crops are used in facilities is there any reason to hire other players to work on your farms? I've got all the tools and enough fuel to do it myself. Before you got more coins when someone else did it but since the majority of the crops are used in facilities then that doesn't matter to me. Just curious if I missed something. Thanks!

[Taz D]

I don't know if this has been brought up before, but since the majority of my crops are used in facilities is there any reason to hire other players to work on your farms? I've got all the tools and enough fuel to do it myself. Before you got more coins when someone else did it but since the majority of the crops are used in facilities then that doesn't matter to me. Just curious if I missed something. Thanks!
Only reason I hire someone else is to help them out. They get a portion of the crop and some coins and get experience points for plowing.

[Tony D]

I don't know if this has been brought up before, but since the majority of my crops are used in facilities is there any reason to hire other players to work on your farms? I've got all the tools and enough fuel to do it myself. Before you got more coins when someone else did it but since the majority of the crops are used in facilities then that doesn't matter to me. Just curious if I missed something. Thanks!Hi, it is still cheaper for the ploughing if you hire someone else to do it :)

[LoreneC]

I still hire in the market because I like helping new farmers. Also I plant a lot of acorn squash to sell for coins and I get more if I hire it done.

[Miamine]

I advertise myself as a combine. I want to be hired to harvest AND plow, period. If you don't want to hire for harvest and plow, don't hire a combine.

The job request shows you an offer, if it doesn't suit you then don't take the job, I don't have time to work out which tool does what, or who likes this or that. You also have the chat box, specify there that you will only harvest if you can plow.

[Miamine]

First, if you're going to hire people to work in your facilities, it makes sense to make sure that they are condensed onto as few farms as possible so that your workers don't have to jump around to a bunch of different farms (and thus have to wait for each one to load, which can take a while). I can tell you I own every facility that's currently available, and even have multiples of some, and I have them all on four farms, and all my service facilities on one farm.

I'm very sure there are a great many people who will agree with these suggestions!

Many may agree, but I don't. I can't see the point of sticking all my facilities on one farm. Firstly farms like this are often difficult to collect from, if you get an xlink error, you can't find the facility to start again, and it's hard to go right back to the beginning and start again. Also, the developers have made the facilities look pretty, they might as well be unpainted squares if all you want to do is pack them up. I use the facilities to enhance my farms, so fish restaurants are by the sea and the shops are in the town. I'm not fussy about how others play the game, but I play the game for me, not to suit my workers. Lots of my neighbours that packed their facilities on to one farm, seem to be now moving them, to make their farms look pretty.

[BamaNana]

What drives me craziest when I'm in the Marketplace looking to be hired is when someone sends a request for me to plow, harvest, chop, and fish (just an example here), especially on multiple farms. No way to tell it's for multiple farms till I get to the job. Then, when I arrive on their farm(s), there are wall-to-wall trees to chop, one pond, and maybe a dozen plots to h/p. I don't mind a multi-hire, but I surely wish there was some way of knowing before I accept if I'm being asked to chop a million trees and h/p a dozen plots. Knowing that would go a long way toward deciding whether or not to take the job. Once I accept a job, I feel obligated to do everything I was hired to do and to complete the job before I leave.

[Miamine]

What drives me craziest when I'm in the Marketplace looking to be hired is when someone sends a request for me to plow, harvest, chop, and fish (just an example here), especially on multiple farms. No way to tell it's for multiple farms till I get to the job. Then, when I arrive on their farm(s), there are wall-to-wall trees to chop, one pond, and maybe a dozen plots to h/p. I don't mind a multi-hire, but I surely wish there was some way of knowing before I accept if I'm being asked to chop a million trees and h/p a dozen plots. Knowing that would go a long way toward deciding whether or not to take the job. Once I accept a job, I feel obligated to do everything I was hired to do and to complete the job before I leave.

Not sure it's possible to code such a thing in a computer game. They could possible say "you are hired to catch 12 fish and 2201 trees and 50 flowers" but by the time you got there supposed something grew, then you could have 500fish and 500 flowers. Nope, it's not possible to do what you want with a game like this.

Best thing to do is to just kindly leave a note and say you can't do so many trees because you don't have the tools, or you don't have enough time to complete such a big job properly. If the job isn't suitable for you, leave a note explaining why. Best not to do the bits you like, just leave the whole job alone.

[Sandy Mae]

If I am hired to harvest a farm that is layered too much or the trees are too tightly place together. And most important if my computer does not like it, I leave a polite note to that farmer telling them I am not able to do the work and to hire some one else. Layers play havoc in my computer. If I am able to tough it out, I will continue. And when I do I find some beautiful farm designs. Not always but a few!!! Just an idea of mine

[BamaNana]

Not sure it's possible to code such a thing in a computer game. They could possible say "you are hired to catch 12 fish and 2201 trees and 50 flowers" but by the time you got there supposed something grew, then you could have 500fish and 500 flowers. Nope, it's not possible to do what you want with a game like this.

Best thing to do is to just kindly leave a note and say you can't do so many trees because you don't have the tools, or you don't have enough time to complete such a big job properly. If the job isn't suitable for you, leave a note explaining why. Best not to do the bits you like, just leave the whole job alone.

Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I know it's probably not possible, just was venting my frustration. :) Your suggestion is so simple, don't know why I hadn't thought of it. I've just always felt that once I accept, I'm obligated to at least try to finish. Thanks for the suggestion!

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If I am hired to harvest a farm that is layered too much or the trees are too tightly place together. And most important if my computer does not like it, I leave a polite note to that farmer telling them I am not able to do the work and to hire some one else. Layers play havoc in my computer. If I am able to tough it out, I will continue. And when I do I find some beautiful farm designs. Not always but a few!!! Just an idea of mine

Another great suggestion! Thanks!

[HelenJS22]

If I am hired to harvest a farm that is layered too much or the trees are too tightly place together. And most important if my computer does not like it, I leave a polite note to that farmer telling them I am not able to do the work and to hire some one else. Layers play havoc in my computer. If I am able to tough it out, I will continue. And when I do I find some beautiful farm designs. Not always but a few!!! Just an idea of mine

I had to do that a few nights ago. I rarely work the markets, but had nothing better to do :o I was hired to harvest crops and flowers and chop trees. The farms I was sent to turned out to have megga multi layered crops, with a thick layer of flowers on top of that and a hugely thick layer of trees over the top of everything else :eek:

My computer can handle almost anything, but in this instance it quickly ground to snails pace and threatened to crash out, and I simply had to give up or spend my entire evening trying to finish this farm.

It is extremely against my policy to walk away from a job once hired, but I had to leave the farmer a note telling him the situation that I found myself in on his farm, and asking him to hire someone else for the job.

A little while later I found a very abusive note in my mail box, including a threat to 'report me to the forum' :eek: but chose to ignore. I'm afraid that my opinion is that if someone wants to put such impossible layers onto their farms like that, then they should also be prepared to harvest and chop those farms themselves rather than hire from the market place, then abuse everyone who finds it too heavily layered to handle.

[Texas Cowgirl]

Can't you do SOMETHING to make chopping and fishing more attractive? Give extra points or more harvests or something.

[jm3810@msn.com]

I generally do not hire people with too many demands. My pet peeve is when I ask who has a chainsaw for example and many others are also asking who wants grapes, or plow etc and people simply answer "me" or "I do". I wish people would specify "I have a chainsaw" or "I want plowing" or use your name. "I do Mike". That would be helpful.

[Docperk]

Can't you do SOMETHING to make chopping and fishing more attractive? Give extra points or more harvests or something.

I agree, that is actually what I came to this forum to post about. Not so much about the Chopping because I see people wanting to chop all the time, but it is very difficult to get anyone to fish for you, it so bad many of them have NO FISHING as part of their name. They post will do anything but fish. If they don't have a boat I understand that but with a boat it is pretty easy to fish. Same difference if you harvest one square at time or if you have harvester and or plow. They have given us bait to double to the amount to be caught and I always advertise that I bait. I spend as much time trying to hire someone to fish that I could have just as well done it myself. I am pretty fast at with my boat and don't mind fishing for others. I just don't see why so many people hate it so much and haven't a clue as to what to make it more inviting that they would want to do it.

[HelenJS22]

I generally do not hire people with too many demands. My pet peeve is when I ask who has a chainsaw for example and many others are also asking who wants grapes, or plow etc and people simply answer "me" or "I do". I wish people would specify "I have a chainsaw" or "I want plowing" or use your name. "I do Mike". That would be helpful.

I try to answer back using the name of the person asking, but often it disappears off the screen very quickly.

My wish is that people asking 'who has a chainsaw?' would add if needs be '... to harvest my 6 million trees all stacked onto the one farm' :(

[Kath-H]

I hired two people yesterday, each had one farm to harvest & plow. No layers, nothing difficult. Didn't mind if they were fast or slow, both hired to work solo. As so often happens, I came back to find both jobs half or less than half done and the worker gone. I would really like a rating system for workers!

[HelenJS22]

I hired two people yesterday, each had one farm to harvest & plow. No layers, nothing difficult. Didn't mind if they were fast or slow, both hired to work solo. As so often happens, I came back to find both jobs half or less than half done and the worker gone. I would really like a rating system for workers!

It's not always necessarily the fault of the workers. I have been 'timed out' on a farm before where I have had no choice than to let it drop out. I've even gone back to the market to try to find the farmer to explain what happened, but it was not possible to find her again.

Yep, there are slack workers, but you need to give them the benefit of the doubt.

[hoops]

You have a good point in your note, but one thing you have missed. I have no tools, so when I am hired along with somebody else who does have tools, I barely get started and the farm is finished. 90% of the coworkers I have had in situations like that have hogged as much as possible, even plowing what I have managed to harvest. They are very rude about it. For that reason, I prefer solo work, or work with polite people.

[Kath-H]

I wish more people would use the new feature in the market - click avatar, change status ro red if looking for work, pink if hiring. Sometimes I struggle to hire because of all the requests coming in. I suppose word will get round eventually, it's a really good idea.

[Taz D]

I wish more people would use the new feature in the market - click avatar, change status ro red if looking for work, pink if hiring. Sometimes I struggle to hire because of all the requests coming in. I suppose word will get round eventually, it's a really good idea.
The problem is most players don't read the announcements or even use the forum at all, so it takes a while for the word about a new feature to get around.

[HelenJS22]

The problem is most players don't read the announcements or even use the forum at all, so it takes a while for the word about a new feature to get around.

LOL - maybe when each new update came out, the devs could put up a pop-up telling farmers to go to the forum to learn about it, rather than just a pop-up giving us only basic details.

It's is just amazing the number who play this game in complete ignorance of updates or rules. So many of them have never, ever been near the forum, but they expect others to spoon feed them all the way.

I did have one neighbour tell me that she 'wasn't game to click on many of the buttons because she didn't know what they would do and she might lose her game' :eek:

[alyceclover]

I am not sure if this is the correct thread to report this glitch.

I am having trouble chatting while at market, either to hire or get hired. It also happens when at market to buy /sell product.

I have tried using the Change Status thing, but then Chat will not work. It is temperamental; works some times, other times does not. Leaving game and reloading usually fixes it.

I will hide Chat, unhide, then able to type my message; but then can not send it. It makes for frustrating Market visits being unable to communicate via Chat.

[alyceclover]

I wish more people would use the new feature in the market - click avatar, change status ro red if looking for work, pink if hiring. Sometimes I struggle to hire because of all the requests coming in. I suppose word will get round eventually, it's a really good idea.

I learned about this feature when I was at the Market by a farmer telling us why she was red (or pink). I have tried using it, but as mentioned, many do not know pink means hire. And when I use it, it tends to make Chat not work ~ because I do not have tree tools, I want to tell farmers what I work I want, not just say "available".

I have not been to forum, nor Market for a long time, hence my ignorance of the change. Which I like.

[fireplug12]

i try to find the workers too. I have been told - I don't fish or I don't do flowers. I tell them they accepted the job and I attempt to rehire them to finish....if they refuse the job. I will openly ask for someone to finish the job that "so and so" didn't finish!!!

I will send a message if I get hired for a large job so that, in the case of being timed out, they can send me a message back to rehire if they are still on.

[BamaNana]

i try to find the workers too. I have been told - I don't fish or I don't do flowers.

From the POV of a worker, one of the problems is that those who want to hire are not always efficient in using the hiring options. Generally, I don't accept jobs that include flowers. But as an experiment yesterday, I accepted whatever was offered. Almost every job I accepted didn't actually have all the work that was specified in the hire request. It's very frustrating to turn things off and on (trees, flowers, etc) as you work through multiple farms, only to find that what was requested doesn't need work. I only did that for one day. I don't accept jobs I can't or prefer not to do.

[christine21372]

I have been playing Farm Town a long time...since we had to wait for flowers that were coming soon! I am starting to get a little frustrated with some of the players lately. Rarely do you get people in the market to say hello, when a hello, please and thank you was common place. Now we have people with tools...and I think thats great to a point! I don't have tools, but I still like to harvest and plow, after all I need coins, products and like the experience points. Lately I have been getting hired with people that have tools, and they don't share, I can barely finish harvesting a row of something and before I know it, the whole farm is harvested and plowed leaving me with none! I wish people would share, can't they even leave us 1/3 of the work? Then I have gotten hired where I have been told "Oh you have no tools, this is too much work for you....I don't mind sharing, so if you must hire others can you please do it on another farm if there are more then 1? I love to work, finish the job, and always say please and thankyou for the work. The politeness of the game has GONE, and thats part of the reason I loved Farm Town :(:(:confused:

[LoreneC]

It seems everyone is in such a hurry these days. It could be because we have so many farms.

I only hire solo. If the person has tools fine, if not, I go find something else to do, in real life, while the hired person takes their time getting things finished. In all fairness to others who do hire multiple people, I am retired so I am not farming around a full time job.

I do not understand the purpose of hiring more than one person either, but some people still do it.

I am sure if you continue to work the market you will find people willing to hire you. If someone advertises no tools I always hire them for harvest and plow. Trees, flowers, etc I try to find someone with tools since most people without tools do not finish the job since for those two items I have so many.

Hope things pick up for you.

[Don't feed the beggers]

Dear tool-less workers,


I have heard you complain and I have seen you in the market demanding solo work b/c you don't want to share, fine whatever works for you, works for you. However please do not assume that ALL workers with tools are greedy, not all of us are, some of us DID learn to share in preschool and many of us still practise that skill today and some of us might even do it very well. Do not put those with tools in one catagory, that like me saying those with no tools never finish a job. It's an unfair statement to make. Nobody HAS to share the crops, yes its good manners and respectful to do so but thats all.

Do not reply in the market saying you have tools when you don't, if you choose to do this than don't be surprised or upset when a farmer hires someone with tools when they realize you lied to get a bunch of pixels and a few coins.

Do not assume that YOU need the xp's more than another player, we ALL want/need xps, so if you are harvesting and someone is plowing don't scream at them, and do NOT send the employer nasty messages, its their farm and they are free to hire who they like, no matter what tools they have or don't have. Just b/c someone has tools doesn't mean they have a higher leval or enough x's some players buy those tools at a low leval to help them gain xp's. Also take into consideration that the worker may have been hired to plow only and NOT harvest.

standing their whining and crying about what you didn't get that you wanted only delays your work and allows someone with tools to do what you should be but are not doing. If you have been hired for multiple farms, simply go to another farm, arguing over pixels is silly, and juvenile not to mention pointless.


I DO realize that working with someone who has tools can be frustrating and maddening but at the end of the day it's just a game, life will go on even when/if the game ends.

To those with tools, grow up and play nice, saying nasty things to the workers with no tools is also juvenile and silly and only makes you look stupid.

To those without tools, grow up and play nice, saying nasty things to the workers with tools is also juvenile and silly and only makes you look stupid.


Thank you
signed




to the farmer who worked on my fields this morning,

YOU lied about the tools you had and then whined and snivelled about my fields being layered so YES I hired someone else to help you out. It isn't up to me to make sure everyone shares, I can only suggest it but beyond that, what else do you expect me to do? Sending me nasty messages was not called for and only made you look like a spoiled little kid. Had you have been honest I would have hired you for half my farms and the other person for the other half but again YOU lied, not me. calling me names is very non productive, as is threatening to "tell on me" to the facebook staff and slashkey staff and only got you dumped into my ignore box, never to be hired again by me. So before you start dumping on those WITH tools, take a look at your own attitude and ask yourself if yours was any better. We are ALL here for the same thing, our goals might be different and abilities not always the same but we are ALL here to waste time in a fun way.

SIGNED
the ticked off farmer who hired you this morning

[penny salter]

I don't understand why anyone would want to complain or point fingers. Tools or not, it's still just a fantastic game!

Sincerely,
toolless farmer :)

[gffarmer]

I don't understand why anyone would want to complain or point fingers. Tools or not, it's still just a fantastic game!

Sincerely,
toolless farmer :)

Well said both of you!

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[Don't feed the beggers]

I don't understand why anyone would want to complain or point fingers. Tools or not, it's still just a fantastic game!

Sincerely,
toolless farmer :)

no, I agree. I just don't get it, it isn't like there is any "real financial gain" its all pixels, that in reality are useless to the outside world but many players do play as if its for life and death reasons and thats where I get confused.

[KnightRider]

Dear tool-less workers,


I have heard you complain and I have seen you in the market demanding solo work b/c you don't want to share, fine whatever works for you, works for you. However please do not assume that ALL workers with tools are greedy, not all of us are, some of us DID learn to share in preschool and many of us still practise that skill today and some of us might even do it very well. Do not put those with tools in one catagory, that like me saying those with no tools never finish a job. It's an unfair statement to make. Nobody HAS to share the crops, yes its good manners and respectful to do so but thats all.

Do not reply in the market saying you have tools when you don't, if you choose to do this than don't be surprised or upset when a farmer hires someone with tools when they realize you lied to get a bunch of pixels and a few coins.

Do not assume that YOU need the xp's more than another player, we ALL want/need xps, so if you are harvesting and someone is plowing don't scream at them, and do NOT send the employer nasty messages, its their farm and they are free to hire who they like, no matter what tools they have or don't have. Just b/c someone has tools doesn't mean they have a higher leval or enough x's some players buy those tools at a low leval to help them gain xp's. Also take into consideration that the worker may have been hired to plow only and NOT harvest.

standing their whining and crying about what you didn't get that you wanted only delays your work and allows someone with tools to do what you should be but are not doing. If you have been hired for multiple farms, simply go to another farm, arguing over pixels is silly, and juvenile not to mention pointless.


I DO realize that working with someone who has tools can be frustrating and maddening but at the end of the day it's just a game, life will go on even when/if the game ends.

To those with tools, grow up and play nice, saying nasty things to the workers with no tools is also juvenile and silly and only makes you look stupid.

To those without tools, grow up and play nice, saying nasty things to the workers with tools is also juvenile and silly and only makes you look stupid.


Thank you
signed




to the farmer who worked on my fields this morning,

YOU lied about the tools you had and then whined and snivelled about my fields being layered so YES I hired someone else to help you out. It isn't up to me to make sure everyone shares, I can only suggest it but beyond that, what else do you expect me to do? Sending me nasty messages was not called for and only made you look like a spoiled little kid. Had you have been honest I would have hired you for half my farms and the other person for the other half but again YOU lied, not me. calling me names is very non productive, as is threatening to "tell on me" to the facebook staff and slashkey staff and only got you dumped into my ignore box, never to be hired again by me. So before you start dumping on those WITH tools, take a look at your own attitude and ask yourself if yours was any better. We are ALL here for the same thing, our goals might be different and abilities not always the same but we are ALL here to waste time in a fun way.

SIGNED
the ticked off farmer who hired you this morning


Very well said and politely said also.

[HelenJS22]

Dear tool-less workers,


I have heard you complain and I have seen you in the market demanding solo work b/c you don't want to share, fine whatever works for you, works for you. However please do not assume that ALL workers with tools are greedy, not all of us are, some of us DID learn to share in preschool and many of us still practise that skill today and some of us might even do it very well. Do not put those with tools in one catagory, that like me saying those with no tools never finish a job. It's an unfair statement to make. Nobody HAS to share the crops, yes its good manners and respectful to do so but thats all.

Do not reply in the market saying you have tools when you don't, if you choose to do this than don't be surprised or upset when a farmer hires someone with tools when they realize you lied to get a bunch of pixels and a few coins.

Do not assume that YOU need the xp's more than another player, we ALL want/need xps, so if you are harvesting and someone is plowing don't scream at them, and do NOT send the employer nasty messages, its their farm and they are free to hire who they like, no matter what tools they have or don't have. Just b/c someone has tools doesn't mean they have a higher leval or enough x's some players buy those tools at a low leval to help them gain xp's. Also take into consideration that the worker may have been hired to plow only and NOT harvest.

standing their whining and crying about what you didn't get that you wanted only delays your work and allows someone with tools to do what you should be but are not doing. If you have been hired for multiple farms, simply go to another farm, arguing over pixels is silly, and juvenile not to mention pointless.


I DO realize that working with someone who has tools can be frustrating and maddening but at the end of the day it's just a game, life will go on even when/if the game ends.

To those with tools, grow up and play nice, saying nasty things to the workers with no tools is also juvenile and silly and only makes you look stupid.

To those without tools, grow up and play nice, saying nasty things to the workers with tools is also juvenile and silly and only makes you look stupid.


Thank you
signed




to the farmer who worked on my fields this morning,

YOU lied about the tools you had and then whined and snivelled about my fields being layered so YES I hired someone else to help you out. It isn't up to me to make sure everyone shares, I can only suggest it but beyond that, what else do you expect me to do? Sending me nasty messages was not called for and only made you look like a spoiled little kid. Had you have been honest I would have hired you for half my farms and the other person for the other half but again YOU lied, not me. calling me names is very non productive, as is threatening to "tell on me" to the facebook staff and slashkey staff and only got you dumped into my ignore box, never to be hired again by me. So before you start dumping on those WITH tools, take a look at your own attitude and ask yourself if yours was any better. We are ALL here for the same thing, our goals might be different and abilities not always the same but we are ALL here to waste time in a fun way.

SIGNED
the ticked off farmer who hired you this morning

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Well said - now if this could just be posted somehow right in the market place so that the people who need to read it are forced to.

Sadly, the people who cause the problems in the market don't frequent the forum :(

[BamaNana]

I wish there was an easier way to blacklist employers, too. I don't mind harvesting/chopping trees unless they're wall to wall on every available spot, often layered over crops. Most often, the farmer who is hiring does not come to the farm while you're working which in turn means you don't have a chance to click on his/her avatar. I'd like to be able to block those people who have overplanted farms just so neither of us finds ourselves in that position again. Nothing against those farmers who overplant, you can do whatever you like on your own farm. But just so I don't find myself in the middle of a farm crammed full of trees that I've promised to harvest/chop, only to find that it's too big a job for me.

[KnightRider]

When I would hire someone from the market and that isn't too often, I do alot of the harvesting/plowing myself, I would hire 1 person and then when we are at my farm I ask them if they can do the work themselves or if they need help, if they want to work solo I let them do it all, I tell them speed is not a big deal, many times the person that I hire is a lower level farmer and has no tools. I tell them do what you want if you get tired and want to stop, no problem, I will finish what they don't, so far they have always complete the job, there for awhile I had 1 farm that was just for Acorn Squash that I had just for the coins and that would be the farm that they would work on to harvest and then plow, that farm is an overlapping farm and when I go to hire someone I tell them right off that it is overlapping, but it is crops only no trees or anything is on the crops.

[BamaNana]

(just something like a history log, where you can see the last 10 people you hired, worked for or visited)

What a splendid idea! :)

[ThaLuvlyMisJ]

I've been having some fun, with the hiring process. I now present an employment 'test'. I begin by announcing that I've got crops ready for harvesting, then plots to plow:

Greetings, Farmers. I have 2 farms; I need two employees for harvesting and plowing.

Then, I remind players that they have a very useful 'tool' available to them:

But I present an employment test. Those who do not wish to participate, please click my avatar, and select 'ignore'.

I then remind the marketplace of the 'reward' for participating:

First two correct answers will be offered the employment, both harvesting and plowing


Then, I present my 'test'. The test varies, and is based on the crop that is ready. For example, overnight I usually plant squash. My 'squash' test is a riddle:

Test: Riddle: Which FarmTown crop would be best, for killing a cockroach?


When the crop is grapes and wheat, the question is based on wine and bread, taken from the Fitzgerald translation of the Rubiayat of Omar Khayyam:

Test: Fill in the blanks: "A _ _ _ of _ _ _ _, a _ _ _ _ of _ _ _ _ _, and thou beside me, singing in the wilderness; and wilderness is paradise, now ..."


If the crop is only grapes, the 'test' is simple math -

The test: My farms yield 525 dry quarts of grapes. There are 105 dry quarts in every barrel. Each barrel yields 2 gallons of wine. How many gallons will my farms yield?

Sometimes, with grapes, the test is on American Literature:

Test: Who is the author of 'The Cask of the Amontillado'?

If the pomegranate trees are ready to pick, the test question is based on Greek Mythology:

Test: What fruit did Persephone consume, when she was being held captive by Hades in his Underworld Kingdom?

I've had great fun with some of the answers. When I get any 'irritated' players complaining that they did not 'come here to be in school', I just gently remind them that this is a game, and the developers of the game provided them with a wonderful tool, called the IGNORE button - and I recommend they employ that tool, posthaste! lol!

The hired hands are always thanked, when they arrive on the farm, for their participation in the employment test, and the usual result of the test is to stimulate a conversation with fellow FT players. I've met some very interesting people, via the 'test' and this game.

I wonder, does anyone else have any interesting ways to hire employees?

I am sooooo super confused and if u asked me any of those questions I would prob start laughing, immediately think WTF?! and be like ummmm....what? hahahahaha this totally made me laugh but it's great to see someone who actually knows this is a GAME and has fun with it : )

[ThaLuvlyMisJ]

I wish more people would use the new feature in the market - click avatar, change status ro red if looking for work, pink if hiring. Sometimes I struggle to hire because of all the requests coming in. I suppose word will get round eventually, it's a really good idea.

When that first came out I was just patiently chilling in the MP waiting for a job :cool: and suddenly noticed all these new beautiful colors and was like "coooollllll, I want to be pink too!" so I simply asked how they did that and nobody told me ( out of like 20 people ) and the only reply I got was "Becuz I'm an alien".:eek: to which I replied with one of my usual quick witted responses of "Ummm I could only WISH I was talking to a real life alien". And then I saw the word "ignore" typed in the chat box. hahahahahaha I LOVE helping new people when they have questions. We all had to start somewhere and learn along the way so why not just either not say anything at all or be kind and offer some friendly "helpful" advice. It's so nice when u come in contact with nice people on FT...It always reminds me why I still play the game...It seems lately there are so many negative Debbie Downers playing this game...I did learn a new word the other day on here though which literally made me LOL...some girl :mad: came to the 1st ( out of 13 ) and ONLY farm I had worked on so far and was like "Thanks Bit** for "SNARFING" up all the crops"! HAHAHAHAHAHA What?! Who says that...Upon an immediate Google Search I'll tell u 1 person --------> this girl ( we woo ( finger pointing over my head )) which I now incorporate into daily sentences about everything like "Hey Mom thanks for snarfing up the mail today ( which makes ZERO sense BTW) and laugh really hard and shes like WTF?! Oh FarmTown the joy u bring into my life! :D

[ThaLuvlyMisJ]

I like to harvest fruit trees. I, however, do not have any "tools" because I don't have the money to be buying them to play the game. On more occasions than I can possibly recall, I'll be on a farm, minding my own business, harvesting the trees, and a person with "tools" comes through and harvests EVERYTHING, leaving nothing left for me to do. They take ALL the work! And they don't CARE. I cannot compete with folks that have tree shakers. It just happened to me a few minutes ago. I am getting very fed up and will probably stop playing altogether. The playing field has become unfair.

Yah unfortunately this happens way too often!! I personally have tools ( which I very recently finally gave into ) and I always make a point to either A. ASK the other person without tools if they have anything in specific they really want and would appreciate me not doing or B. Just only do half of the work so they have plenty for themselves... There are still some of us "polite and nice" people out there who still play the game...Hopefully u come in contact with more of us!

[jstires]

when I ask people to fish they get upset if I don't have bait and boats. How and where do I get them? And why do they need them. I do have bait I sell how can I give it to them to use?

[spartan7886]

For the bait, just don't sell it all. It automatically goes to your water until you sell it. The boat needs to be owned by the employee, not the employer, so not sure why they'd get mad at you for that.

[ThaLuvlyMisJ]

You can obtain bait 2 ways. You can either receive it as a gift from a friend OR you buy the Fish Farming Plant ( Facility ) and create it. I NEVER sell my bait becuz I always seem to run so low on it. ( I have tons and tons of lakes, rivers, ponds.....)

[clogger]

I used to always run out of fuel! One of the MOST IMPORTANT facilities to purchase is the Oil Refinery becuz there u can actually make fuel on a daily basis on top of the fuel u can get for free. Buy the Oil Pump ( tools ) and create crude barrel oil. Take the crude barrel oil and use it in the PetroChemical Plant ( facility ) to turn it into fuel canisters and then use them in the Oil Refinery to actually produce your fuel.



Just a little clarification. After you collect the crude oil from the Oil Pump, it goes to the Oil Refinery next, not the Petrochemical Plant. In the Oil Refinery, the cruide oil is made into fuel and/or petrochemical barrels. Fuel is obviously needed for the tools.

Petrochemical barrels can go to the Petrochemical Plant to make turpentine, ethanol, plastic granuales, plasticizer, nylon reel.

An Oil Pump can put one on as many of your farms as you want. The more oil pumps, the more crude oil you get. Like other facilities, only one per farm will work.

[KnightRider]

The oil pumps and oil refinery was the best tool and factory that has come out on Farmtown, I never have to worry about fuel again. I have just over 1.3 million units of fuel right now, so any fuel I make now can go into my gas stations service facilities. The Oil Refinery cost FC but it is very much worth buying that factory and the Oil Pumps cost 1,000 coins each.

[Tokeloshe]

Just got hired together with half the market place to harvest and plough a field with one wasted plot and nothing else. In that instance it is very important to find that one plot and plough it or the person can do the same thing again in a couple of minutes.

[Lene Bay]

I very rarely hire strangers I don't know (non-neighbours). Last time I hired someone she just stood in my farm 1 and looked and then she just disappeared again. So I had to harvest it all myself. I didn't dare to hire another stranger.

[Jean's Farm]

I very rarely hire strangers I don't know (non-neighbours). Last time I hired someone she just stood in my farm 1 and looked and then she just disappeared again. So I had to harvest it all myself. I didn't dare to hire another stranger.

Chances are she never even got to your farm....she got booted before she even got there. I've had workers disappear mid harvest. It's not them...it's a glitch and they get kicked off your farm.

Also if you have a lot of things on your farms.....hundreds of animals, trees on top of fields, stuff like that she may have had trouble even loading.

For example, last night I was harvesting for a neighbor and a woman named Donna popped in. I didn't think anything of it. I figured she was working his facs. Then all of a sudden she started acting like she was harvesting or plowing. The entire farm had already been done by the time she started this. My friend saw her too.

Little funky stuff like that happens all the time. Don't let it put you off from hiring in the market place. It doesn't happen all the time. :)

[pennysworth]

I don't enjoy the abuse I receive for telling people that I won't hire them to plough - especially when I have a layered farm. I try to tell them that I don't see the use in it as it won't work, and even link them to the thread about layered farms, but they continue to abuse me. There are so many players on my ignore list that it's actually quite annoying. I'm always a very placid farmer; I do as I'm told, make idle conversation and politely request to plough afterwards - sometimes I refuse an offer to plough as I'm feeling particularly charitable and want the person I'm working with to get the exp from ploughing. I don't particularly need it, after all, it's just a nice little thing to fill my spare time. I can't understand some peoples' obsession with ploughing. It's just EXP, and there's no need to be rude over it. :rolleyes:

I personally usually only ever try to hire two to three people to harvest at my farm; however, when I hire people and don't get a response quickly [within thirty seconds to one minute], I go and hire the next person in the marketplace. As a result, people have responded very late to my hire requests, come to my farm when there is very little work left, and proceeded to abuse me and accuse me of over-hiring for entertainment. I don't mind that there isn't a fire button, but I'm very thankful that there's an ignore button. I don't have the patience to deal with people who won't listen when I attempt to reason with them an offer an explanation. I'm kind enough to bother explaining myself to rude employees - they should learn to be kind enough to bother to listen to my explanation.

I also don't like people who believe that they have the right to harvest and plow my whole farm on their own. I know that a lot of my farm is taken up by decorative structures, trees, flowers and fencing, but I also know that there are still plenty of crops to harvest, especially as I tend to plant crops which have high monetary returns. Occasionally I've hired one person when I've felt like spoiling them or when I've only been satisfied with the behaviour of one person in the marketplace, and upon telling them that they have the whole harvest to themselves, have received such comments as "I like to work alone." or "I would have left if you had hired someone else." Well, with an attitude like that, I want them to leave. I've often gone back to the marketplace and hired another person anyway [yes, out of spite] to show them that it's a game that involves working for things and that they can't have things handed to them on a silver platter. The people in the marketplace who post such comments as "I work ALONE!" also find themselves on my ignore list. It's just selfish. They really need to go back to primary school and listen to their teachers when they're being told about the benefits of sharing.

If people just approached the Internet with a sense of etiquette and a reminder that the people on the other side of the screen are real people, this whole "Internetz r srs bsns" attitude would be dropped altogether, and I for one would be very happy. I don't need to cop this from rude employees; I could have just as easily hired somebody else entirely to do my work, and instead they complain that there isn't much left when they gave me the impression that they were AFK, or that I won't let them plow when I have a layered farm or am rearranging my plots.

I agree to a certain extent about wanting to work alone.

Which I prefer to do so I do not, feel like I am in a race to see who can get the most done.

We get it too if we harvest more than some think we should.

Usually I just go on to the next farm if there are more than one to do, and leave them to do the one they are on.

Also if there is some one that does not have the tools to do the work I usually leave most of it for them to do, so they can get the exp points to level up so they can get them.

That is why lots of people like to plow so they can level faster to get the tools.

[pennysworth]

I had to do that a few nights ago. I rarely work the markets, but had nothing better to do :o I was hired to harvest crops and flowers and chop trees. The farms I was sent to turned out to have megga multi layered crops, with a thick layer of flowers on top of that and a hugely thick layer of trees over the top of everything else :eek:

My computer can handle almost anything, but in this instance it quickly ground to snails pace and threatened to crash out, and I simply had to give up or spend my entire evening trying to finish this farm.

It is extremely against my policy to walk away from a job once hired, but I had to leave the farmer a note telling him the situation that I found myself in on his farm, and asking him to hire someone else for the job.

A little while later I found a very abusive note in my mail box, including a threat to 'report me to the forum' :eek: but chose to ignore. I'm afraid that my opinion is that if someone wants to put such impossible layers onto their farms like that, then they should also be prepared to harvest and chop those farms themselves rather than hire from the market place, then abuse everyone who finds it too heavily layered to handle.

Agree I have run into a few farms like that. And see no reason to do it like that either.

If you work your neighbors facilities and harvest in the market. You get more than plenty to run your own stuff.

Never could understand what it is with all the layers.

[pennysworth]

I agree, that is actually what I came to this forum to post about. Not so much about the Chopping because I see people wanting to chop all the time, but it is very difficult to get anyone to fish for you, it so bad many of them have NO FISHING as part of their name. They post will do anything but fish. If they don't have a boat I understand that but with a boat it is pretty easy to fish. Same difference if you harvest one square at time or if you have harvester and or plow. They have given us bait to double to the amount to be caught and I always advertise that I bait. I spend as much time trying to hire someone to fish that I could have just as well done it myself. I am pretty fast at with my boat and don't mind fishing for others. I just don't see why so many people hate it so much and haven't a clue as to what to make it more inviting that they would want to do it.

Would not be so bad, but some people have over done the water, just like the crops and layering every thing.

I do not mind doing some fishing, but there are farms that I have agreed to fish on that I wish I had not even with my boat.

[Lesa4969]

I am sick of trying to hire people to work on my farm and then receiving nasty messages from them because I hired 2 or 3 people. I have a large farm and if I choose to hire more than one person - that's my choice - it's MY farm. :mad:
If I have flowers and trees I'd like them all done... not a worker like a locust who takes the crops and plows and then bolts. :mad:
This "solo" tag in the marketplace is just plain rude. If you can't play well with others - don't play the game... cos that's what it is - a game!!!!! :mad:
My rant for the day....:rolleyes:

[Lesa4969]

It seems everyone is in such a hurry these days. It could be because we have so many farms.

I only hire solo. If the person has tools fine, if not, I go find something else to do, in real life, while the hired person takes their time getting things finished. In all fairness to others who do hire multiple people, I am retired so I am not farming around a full time job.

I do not understand the purpose of hiring more than one person either, but some people still do it.

I am sure if you continue to work the market you will find people willing to hire you. If someone advertises no tools I always hire them for harvest and plow. Trees, flowers, etc I try to find someone with tools since most people without tools do not finish the job since for those two items I have so many.

Hope things pick up for you.

I DO work around a full time job AND 2 young kids.... I love my farm but my time is limited. I don't have hours to kill as one tool-less worker plods their way through 12 farms... and so I multi-hire. Not an excessive number of people. 3 or 4 at the most. I don't apologise for this. it's what I have to do to enjoy the game.

[Jean's Farm]

I DO work around a full time job AND 2 young kids.... I love my farm but my time is limited. I don't have hours to kill as one tool-less worker plods their way through 12 farms... and so I multi-hire. Not an excessive number of people. 3 or 4 at the most. I don't apologise for this. it's what I have to do to enjoy the game.


I can appreciate your time is limited with your job and family. Lucky you to be able to work and have kids. :) :)

How about instead of hiring 3-4 people for every farm you have...you hire one person for 3 or 4 and another for a different 3 or 4.....and so on and so on. That way you still get it done as fast.....but each person you hire gets their own little corner of your world to work. :)

[adinar]

I am sick of trying to hire people to work on my farm and then receiving nasty messages from them because I hired 2 or 3 people. I have a large farm and if I choose to hire more than one person - that's my choice - it's MY farm. :mad:
If I have flowers and trees I'd like them all done... not a worker like a locust who takes the crops and plows and then bolts. :mad:
This "solo" tag in the marketplace is just plain rude. If you can't play well with others - don't play the game... cos that's what it is - a game!!!!! :mad:
My rant for the day....:rolleyes:

in my case I hire only one person to do the h/ping and if they want to do the trees great. From my experience I used to only work solo after getting abused by other workers who didn't want to share so I got fed up of that I allways shared if the farmer hired more than one or I'd go to another farm on the highlighted list.You make it sound as if all are rude not all are and alot of times when the worker bolts as you say it means she/he has timed out and gets kicked from the farm when they click on Retry.I agree they shouldn't berate you for hiring the amount you want and it is your farm. I've started to only do my own myself now because the new ppl in the marketplace are picky and offensive alot of times

[StoneFace]

I am sick of trying to hire people to work on my farm and then receiving nasty messages from them because I hired 2 or 3 people. I have a large farm and if I choose to hire more than one person - that's my choice - it's MY farm. :mad:
If I have flowers and trees I'd like them all done... not a worker like a locust who takes the crops and plows and then bolts. :mad:
This "solo" tag in the marketplace is just plain rude. If you can't play well with others - don't play the game... cos that's what it is - a game!!!!! :mad:
My rant for the day....:rolleyes:

Are you in such a hurry that the work must be done quickly? Or do you mean you have multiple farms with work to do?

If the former, I suggest finding a less demanding game

If the latter, I suggest you hire ONE worker for one farm.... multi-hire for the work you want done, and let them at it.
then
do the same ... hire that second worker for the second farm,... and the the third worker for the third farm

You can always re-hire the first worker for the fourth farm etc.

or

do the work yourself and not get as much product.


:cool:

[BethFB]

My son Adonis, just hired someone to do all 13 farms, the person stayed for only one farm and they were okay with doing all 13. They didn't even note him stating they couldn't finish the rest, sorry.

He's going about doing his own farms himself because of how the hires will only do one farm and run when they were told that they have all 13 farms.

I really dislike that as does my son and daughter who both play the games.

[Docperk]

Since we seem to be talking about what ticks someone off... I go to the market and I say I need someone with ALL tools to do all jobs on all fields. I fill that is giving them pretty good warning as to I want. I hire someone with "ALL TOOLS" in their name is saying "Me Doc, I will" so I hire them and they either don't fish, or only harverst plow and leave all the flowers and trees and fish. I end up going to the market and hiring someone 6 times to get the job done. I could have done it in a fraction of the time by just doing it myself and half the time I end up doing that way, but I do like to SHARE the work and usually only hire 1 person at a time, but that brings me to the other thing that is currently ticking me off.

Since the last update people have been extreemly slow in showing up in the market, I have to click on them and hire them at least 3 times, if they happen to stay in the market that long, then sometimes I get one hired and I end up having 2 or 3 people on the field. Then sometimes I have half the market there as ghost. I did go and clear my chache and flash chace but it is still happening some.

Ok I get off my soap box for now.

[Jean's Farm]

My son Adonis, just hired someone to do all 13 farms, the person stayed for only one farm and they were okay with doing all 13. They didn't even note him stating they couldn't finish the rest, sorry.

He's going about doing his own farms himself because of how the hires will only do one farm and run when they were told that they have all 13 farms.

I really dislike that as does my son and daughter who both play the games.

Chances are the person he hired to do all 13 farms was very happy to do them all and by his or herself. :) The next big chance is they got kicked off by the game and had no control over it. :mad: Therefore, they could not leave your son a note. It's happened to me before and you feel helpless because you have NO way to contact the person who hired you and let them know.

Do your son and daughter have their own computers??? If so why don't they do each others farms?? Or ask one of their neighbors to do them?? I harvest everynight with one of my neighbors. That way if one of us gets kicked off we can still get back to each others farms. And it happens to us occasionally. :D

[Cropper]

I just wish people in the market place would actually read what's written under my avatar before hiring. I had it set (prior to getting the chopping tool) to "combine/fish only". I even expressed in the chat box after someone tried hiring me to harvest trees and flowers that I couldn't and didn't want to do those because I didn't have those tools. As we all know, one click harvesting on a farm packed full of trees and flowers is not only time-consuming but for me, a very painstaking task.

Even after mentioning this, the same person then omitted the trees from her hire box but left the flowers. I refused again and once again, stated that I couldn't do flowers. This person then sent me a private message asking me if I actually wanted to do any work at all. I didn't send one back but about to bang my head against the nearest wall lol.

Now I have "combine/fish/chop" under my avatar and I'm pretty sure for most people, considering it's a common practise for a lot of people nowadays, that it indicates what type of work I'm after and tools I have at my disposal. Yet people still try to hire me to harvest their trees and flowers. If I had those tools, I'd simply write, "All tools" or instead of "combine/fish/chop" I'd equally write, "combine/fish/trees", if indeed I had the tree shaker tool. I just wish people, if they can't read what my avatar states, then pay attention to the chat box. End of mini-rant :-)

[meacara]

Cropper - the harvesting fields and flowers may have simply been an easier way of hiring you the second time (unchecking one vs. both of those boxes). They actually didn't need to rehire you at all (you could have hidden both and done all the h/p work and fishing). That's when you ask them if they expect you to do their flowers. If they say no, just hide them and get on with the work.

Also, some people have under 20 trees or flowers in total, while some are ludicrous in the numbers of them on their farms (crops, then trees then flowers all over). If someone has the former, I think they'd expect you to do it anyways because it would take under a minute or two. But that's JMO.

[meacara]

I am sick of trying to hire people to work on my farm and then receiving nasty messages from them because I hired 2 or 3 people. I have a large farm and if I choose to hire more than one person - that's my choice - it's MY farm. :mad:
If I have flowers and trees I'd like them all done... not a worker like a locust who takes the crops and plows and then bolts. :mad:
This "solo" tag in the marketplace is just plain rude. If you can't play well with others - don't play the game... cos that's what it is - a game!!!!! :mad:
My rant for the day....:rolleyes:

Now that I have tools, I don't mind getting hired with others, and I try to leave at least 1/3 if not half for the other person. However, before I had tools, I remember people running over me to the point where I'd harvest 10 squares in total. Those jobs weren't worth it. That is why people like to have their own work where others cannot do it.

If you want your work done quickly, I'd suggest either hiring people for 2-3 farms each, so each one gets their own work, or first hiring someone to do h/p - if they don't have a combine tell them to harvest first (i.e. harvest farm 1, harvest farm 2, harvest farm 3... harvest last farm, plow farm 1...). Then hire someone to chop/fish while your h/p'er is getting started. After a few minutes, then hire someone for trees/flowers so that they don't get the crops that the h/p'er should get.

[Cropper]

Cropper - the harvesting fields and flowers may have simply been an easier way of hiring you the second time (unchecking one vs. both of those boxes). They actually didn't need to rehire you at all (you could have hidden both and done all the h/p work and fishing). That's when you ask them if they expect you to do their flowers. If they say no, just hide them and get on with the work.

Also, some people have under 20 trees or flowers in total, while some are ludicrous in the numbers of them on their farms (crops, then trees then flowers all over). If someone has the former, I think they'd expect you to do it anyways because it would take under a minute or two. But that's JMO.

Meacara, I think you may have misunderstood my post. This little exchange took place in the market place, not at anyones farm. Hence why I stated that I refused the hire offer *again* after this person *tried* to hire me. I do not commit myself to a job hire offer unless I am happy with that offer and that is why I attempt to explain my refusal to those that try to hire me for jobs I do not want to do. If, in that case, that they actually do read my reasons in the chat box and still wish to hire me for other jobs, then that is fine with me :-)

[Taz D]

Meacara, I think you may have misunderstood my post. This little exchange took place in the market place, not at anyones farm. Hence why I stated that I refused the hire offer *again* after this person *tried* to hire me. I do not commit myself to a job hire offer unless I am happy with that offer and that is why I attempt to explain my refusal to those that try to hire me for jobs I do not want to do. If, in that case, that they actually do read my reasons in the chat box and still wish to hire me for other jobs, then that is fine with me :-)
If I remember correctly isn't harvesting and trees & havesting and flowers combined in the hire menu if they are not using the multi-hire?

[Cropper]

Yes that's correct Taz, however, there is also another option to harvest crops only. I concede that the farmer in question *may* have clicked on crops and flowers in error as opposed to the crops only option. As I said though, I explained in the chat box that I couldn't do the flowers or harvest the trees and I cannot and will not presume to know if the farmer was either in error, or in fact, wanted me to harvest the flowers if they do not communicate back to me. I simply will not take the chance to accept a hire offer that I do not agree with. I'm quite sure a lot of farmers out there would be happy that I don't agree to a job that I have no intentions of finishing. It all boils down to my initial complaint... i.e not reading!

[CynthiaSue]

I just started taking jobs in the marketplace as it was a suggestion to make coins. It doesn't work well at all. I don't have the tools. One job they hired another and the other person with the tools did some and left, which was very considerate. However, tonight the other person did even where I was working to harvest one by one, and I didn't even get to plow what I did. They had the combine. Then I went to another section and it didn't show me getting any coins for harvesting, so I wonder if they had actually already harvested it and it just didn't show harvested to me. How rude. If I want to get totally aggravated with this game, Ill work in teh marketplace so I can have people with tools hog all the work. And if I ever work a job again where someone with tools hogs it, I will quit working right away so I can hide them and never hire them on my farm. Since I rarely work on anyone elses farm, it wouldn't hurt me to hide other players as far as I can see.

[Angel7]

This one is not market related, but along the same lines as the thread. My issue is working neighbors factories and service facilities. We've asked for this before, but nothing has been done about it. Everybody should be able to design their farms the way they want them to look. But getting neighbors to work them should be a seamless process. Many of my neighbors tend to be very considerate and consolidate all their facilities onto as few farms as possible. But then you have some that put 1 or 2 facilities on EVERY single farm. This is extremely time consuming. It's usually lower level players and you want to keep them as neighbors because you know you are helping them out. but why should I have to spend ALOT more time than is necessary just to help them out. I am a higher level player - it takes a minimum of 2-3 hours per day just to do the routine maintenance on my farm (sometimes twice per day-sometimes ALL day). I want to help these people get ahead in the game, but I'm running out of hours in a day to work everybody. And changing neighbors every few weeks is just plain ridiculous. The whole neighbor issue seems to be put on the back burner every time a new release comes out. It's time to address it. Why can't it just go automatically work all facilities on all farms without having to go from farm to farm to farm to farm to farm, etc. etc. etc. Thanks for letting me vent on this issue.....

[lollipopthebunny]

HI I would like to see two separate markets for people to go to to get hired for work! One for people that have TOOLS an one for those at lower levels or No TOOLS! I am one that does happen to have ALL the TOOLS an it is very frustrating to get hired for a job an have someone else get hired that doesn't have any tools or also does! I think we should only be able to hire ONE person per visit in the market possibly. Also I do POST Solo Only an yet I still get hired with multiple people on jobs! It is so aggravating at times as it takes a long time for some peoples farms to load only to find out I have to go back to mrket an start all over again! People aren't reading the chat bar at the bottom of the screen for the most part it appears. It is real hard to work when there are several on farms as it slows it way down for one thing an iF someone does NOT have TOOLS its hard to judge how much of the farm to leave for them to do. I do Try to SHARE! Also Not sure anything can be done, but People seem to hire even when there is NOTHING On the farm to do....How are they able to do that? I have gotten hired several times where there are 1 or 2 or 3 things to do an thats it! I mean good grief cant people work on their own farms to do that little amount of work???

[Taz D]

@lollipopthebunny - I have tools and if someone hires me and I find myself fighting for work I leave. I've found myself on a farm that's 20x20 and 3 pepole with tools working. I just go back to the marketplace and hope for a better job.

In the same vein, if I hire someone who doesn't have tools I surely will hire someone else to move it along. I typically have 10 farms ready at the same time and don't have all day to wait.

Just because you ask for solo doesn't mean your entitled to it. The people who demand things are not hired by me. If you don't like the hire, leave. It's that simple.
Just a thought...Why not put the tools people on separate farms from the non-tools peoples. Then both get fair shares.

[adinar]

This one is not market related, but along the same lines as the thread. My issue is working neighbors factories and service facilities. We've asked for this before, but nothing has been done about it. Everybody should be able to design their farms the way they want them to look. But getting neighbors to work them should be a seamless process. Many of my neighbors tend to be very considerate and consolidate all their facilities onto as few farms as possible. But then you have some that put 1 or 2 facilities on EVERY single farm. This is extremely time consuming. It's usually lower level players and you want to keep them as neighbors because you know you are helping them out. but why should I have to spend ALOT more time than is necessary just to help them out. I am a higher level player - it takes a minimum of 2-3 hours per day just to do the routine maintenance on my farm (sometimes twice per day-sometimes ALL day). I want to help these people get ahead in the game, but I'm running out of hours in a day to work everybody. And changing neighbors every few weeks is just plain ridiculous. The whole neighbor issue seems to be put on the back burner every time a new release comes out. It's time to address it. Why can't it just go automatically work all facilities on all farms without having to go from farm to farm to farm to farm to farm, etc. etc. etc. Thanks for letting me vent on this issue.....

And then you have the other extreme whereby the higher up player puts 100 facs on one farm and 50 to 75 on each other farm I have a few neighbors that do that so you can count on timeing out at least 7 times before you're done with working their facs.I agree with so many farms with facs whether they have little or less something should be done to be able to speed up the process of working them. I cringe when I see some of my neighbors that have gone gungho on facilities post them to be worked.

[adinar]

Just a thought...Why not put the tools people on separate farms from the non-tools peoples. Then both get fair shares.

That's what I do when I hire from the market I prefer each to have at least one or two farms to work that saves those that have tools who tend to hog with put in with those that don't or have no tools

[tlsweetness]

I just harvested on someone else's farm for the 1st time and I have a question. Why is it that those of us, who have coin tools in our storage, can't use them while working on other people's farms? This makes no sense to me. Just because I don't have the $ for the fc tools, I have to do one plot at a time? Don't get me wrong, I love this game to death, but this is so not right. I will never work another's farm again until this is fixed. I have the tools that let me do 9 at a time, and feel that I should be able to use them when helping another on their farm. Sorry, I am a little upset.

[astradriver]

What i would like is some kind of tool that when we go to a friends farm to work there factories / clients that allows us to work all facs / clients from one farm rather than having to load all 14 farms to work them

[lollipopthebunny]

I agree with you, we definitely need the ability to work ALL farms at ONE time as some people have gone crazy with having a lot an it takes a long time to do ONE persons facilities!

[lollipopthebunny]

I am real upset with the comments that are insinuating that ALL people with tools HOG the work!!! I am NOT like that! I also try to SHARE with both types of farmers myself. The reason I ask for SOLO work is because when a person does have tools it is not easy to only do half a farm when someone else comes on after I have started the work already. I also have been run over by people who have NO tools and I was on a job first!!! SO it GOES BOTH WAYS!!! I feel if you have a farm an want to hire someone without any type of tools fine, then don't hire someone with tools also!

I have left several times when hired an someone is already there working but I have also gotten hired solo an all of a sudden I am in the middle of working an someone else shows up an just takes over what I am doing! So it is NOT just the ones without tools that get 'burned' in the mrkt!

I am trying to make it easier for someone by saying SOLO not make it more difficult or to single myself out!!!

One last thing, When a person does HIRE, They need to go back to the Farm an wait a couple min to see if who they hired does show up! I think people are hiring multiple people for a job an Not EVEN CHECKING SO when someone gets to their farms the work is done already or other issues....People are Not EVEN looking first at their farms to see exactly what they need to have done an hire over 'piddly' stuff, like a couple flowers or trees on a farm! I mean give me a break! Do some work yourselves people PLEASE!!

[HelenJS22]

I agree with you, we definitely need the ability to work ALL farms at ONE time as some people have gone crazy with having a lot an it takes a long time to do ONE persons facilities!

Motion seconded, thirded and what ever it will take to beg Raul to help us out with this.

So many neighbours have left the game, partly because of this aspect, and those who still play at a high level are some of the 'gone crazy' ones who have multiples of almost every facility and service facility in Farm Town. It actually takes almost an hour to do the 14 farms of one of my neighbours, and I have a very fast computer. She has been my neighbour since the inception of the game, and I'd hate to lose her, but doing her facilities for her is a NIGHTMARE :eek:

[snow_angel]

I have a couple neighbors that I will not work their facilities anymore. They have 45-65 facilities on each of their fourteen farms. On one of them I had gotten to the 7th farm and had already counted 400 facilities I had worked on. I finally said forget it.

[Dutch85]

I have a couple neighbors that I will not work their facilities anymore. They have 45-65 facilities on each of their fourteen farms. On one of them I had gotten to the 7th farm and had already counted 400 facilities I had worked on. I finally said forget it.

WOW! That's a bit much to work for sure! I don't blame you for stopping. I try to keep my facilities to a minimum to make it easier for people to work them. I do have all of them, but I only have duplicates of a few. I also have them on only 3 farms hopefully to make it go faster without having to load so many farms.

[Angel7]

The fact is that in order to have 2 of some facilities kept full all the time, you have to have 10 or more of some of the others to support it. I keep only 2 of most all facilities except a few, but it takes 10 dairies, 5 sawmills, 12 textile mills, 8 paper mills, 8 sugar mills, etc. etc. to support them. I can only assume that the freight trains are going to help with this, yet some people have goals to reach the top diversification ranks which will mean lots and lots of facilities on their farms. I have a ridiculous number of facilities and I'm only at a 30,000 diversification level - no way on earth am I going to get to the next level. If they would lower the requirement to reach the top diversification rank, alot of people would probably quit putting more and more facilities on their farms.

[lollipopthebunny]

The fact is that in order to have 2 of some facilities kept full all the time, you have to have 10 or more of some of the others to support it. I keep only 2 of most all facilities except a few, but it takes 10 dairies, 5 sawmills, 12 textile mills, 8 paper mills, 8 sugar mills, etc. etc. to support them. I can only assume that the freight trains are going to help with this, yet some people have goals to reach the top diversification ranks which will mean lots and lots of facilities on their farms. I have a ridiculous number of facilities and I'm only at a 30,000 diversification level - no way on earth am I going to get to the next level. If they would lower the requirement to reach the top diversification rank, alot of people would probably quit putting more and more facilities on their farms.
I never pay any attention to the diversificatiion rank an don't quite understand how it works or what it does. I have enough trouble filling my factories an getting neighbors to work them, Also have trouble getting people to TRADE the work...in other words work for me an then let me work for them! Seems the Tools have Ruined the FT INTENT of the game a long time ago!!! I do hire others but trying to get reciprocated is very very difficult unless I struggle in the market!

[Vivienne57]

I am so fed up of the market. When I click to hire someone, then someone else clicks on that same person after you, you lose that worker. Be good if FT could do something to stop that. If I click on someone to hire because they have said they are willing to work, nobody else should be able to click on them which overrides the original hire request. It is so frustrating!!!!!!! Please do something about this in future updates if you can FT :o)

[Vivienne57]

I am so fed up of the market. When I click to hire someone, then someone else clicks on that same person after you, you lose that worker. Be good if FT could do something to stop that. If I click on someone to hire because they have said they are willing to work, nobody else should be able to click on them which overrides the original hire request. It is so frustrating!!!!!!! Please do something about this in future updates if you can FT :o)

I also think that when someone sends a hire request it should stipulate exactly what the request is for. I don't like fishing or trees unless it's part of a harvest/Plough job but to often I get a request that asks if I want to harvest crops and when I get there it's just trees or fishing or flowers and to be honest the coins and xp are not worth it unless it is harvesting and ploughing as well :O)

[lizabetta]

Just curious as to 'why'..when at the Market hiring or looking for a job...do people not see each other? Are there others there that we don't see...eg..someone will come and stand on you or get right in your face..do they not see us like we see them? Do you understand what I'm getting at? Just a question out of curiosity..Have a great day!!

[debcorley]

ive noticed this too and sometimes i load the market and theres only 2 or 3 ppl but when i reload it its packed ..i think maybe it just doesnt load completely sometimes ?

[JohnAlbertini]

When we hire people they should be able to "work" livestock, mines, oil pumps, semis, fish farm, bee hive, etc.
Why not?

[mrschar]

I have also had some problems hiring neighbors and in the marketplace. My neighbors are busy and if they are full screen do not see the requests. If they are on the farm, they won't see my post on FB. In the marketplace, I hate to hire someone with no tools for a huge overlapped field. They can't pull it off and I have to keep checking to see if they have bailed on me or made a mess of it.
BUT I just started doing something new and it has worked perfectly every time. I prepare a notice on Word telling what I have that needs harvesting and asking if anyone would like to do it and has the time. I also add the time that I am posting it. Then, I copy and paste it into a message for each of my neighbors who are already on their farms. I have never waited more than 2 minutes to get a nice responsible neighbor that comes straight away and does it right. :)
I do like to hire people in the marketplace who have no tools for a farm that they can handle. I remember needing to level up myself and like to help them.

[bingo85308]

Hi, I have enjoyed playing Farmtown for a few years now. I am 67 years old and it was very enjoyable to me. Now i am do upset with all the tools that have come out that has taken all the fun away. You get hired to harvest and plow and someone comes in and takes it all and u ask them to share and they say why. This happens almost all the time when I get hired, and I am not the only one. Other people complain about it in the chat. I have never seen to many rude people, and you tell them it is a game for everyone and they just keep on going. I think something should be done about this. I really would like to keep enjoying this game, but am about ready just to delete everything. I have a handicapped daughter I take care of and after I get her in bed at night I really look forward to enjoying some game time, and this does not happen anymore. Thank you from bingo85308

[max_river]

sorry that you ran is to but i am sorry to say it is not just folks that have tools that are rude people with out tools have been rude to.

[Victorious Vivian]

I have seen similar things happening. My youngest grandson was told to get out as it was theirs. He didn't bother leaving and left a note for the farmer saying what happened. As it was the other person hired could do more due to having the tool where he didn't.

[Tony D]

Hi, I have enjoyed playing Farmtown for a few years now. I am 67 years old and it was very enjoyable to me. Now i am do upset with all the tools that have come out that has taken all the fun away. You get hired to harvest and plow and someone comes in and takes it all and u ask them to share and they say why. This happens almost all the time when I get hired, and I am not the only one. Other people complain about it in the chat. I have never seen to many rude people, and you tell them it is a game for everyone and they just keep on going. I think something should be done about this. I really would like to keep enjoying this game, but am about ready just to delete everything. I have a handicapped daughter I take care of and after I get her in bed at night I really look forward to enjoying some game time, and this does not happen anymore. Thank you from bingo85308Hi, I moved your post to the thread on hiring practices.

[Lady_Catalina]

I try to hire people with not tools on occasion. My problem is that most of them don't finish the job. I go back an hour later and everything is half done. I guess they got tired of the work even though I don't do layers.
Of course I also have a beef with people who calim to have ALL THE TOOLS; but then after you hire them all they do is harvest the crops and plow. Personally I think that employees should get some XP points for chopping or fishing. Maybe then more people would be willing to do those jobs.

[mrschar]

I try to hire people with not tools on occasion. My problem is that most of them don't finish the job. I go back an hour later and everything is half done. I guess they got tired of the work even though I don't do layers.
Of course I also have a beef with people who calim to have ALL THE TOOLS; but then after you hire them all they do is harvest the crops and plow. Personally I think that employees should get some XP points for chopping or fishing. Maybe then more people would be willing to do those jobs.

I have been hired and afterward, wondered what all I had been hired for. The hire message was gone so fast and I couldn't remember. I wish from the being hired side of things, the tools, whether nice ones of just axes, etc. would appear in a special Hiring Tool Bag.That might help those who may honestly not remember.
But for those who lie, I'd like to be able to click on them and send them off my farm.
I don't have an answer for those who don't finish their job and even leave it a mess. I know they need XP and I try to help because I remember. Next time, I may advertise for someone who doesn't mind sharing a job. Maybe hire both to harvest and when they finish, hire both to plow. Except that means I can't move on to another farm!
FT just can't do anything about rude people.

[LadyLen1]

as someone that likes and owns the "tools" I would like to throw my "2 cents" in.When I am hired I immediately begin working the farm IF and that is a big IF I see another person tools or not generally w/o I will apologize and leave going to other farm or back to market. I don't think it is anyone but the Hiring Farmers fault. Why would you hire someone w/o tools when there are so many in mktplc stating they that is ridicoulos HAVE tools. @nd why Hire multiple farmers AT ALL! That is ridicoulous, your just making trouble. usr farmers without tools or without not TOGETHER!
I also blame devs for not making playing screen large enough to see more than a third of farm at a time!
If they can bre expandad then making original screen larger should not be a problem. Just greed of course make it too big no one would purchase expansion!

[Jean's Farm]

I try to hire people with not tools on occasion. My problem is that most of them don't finish the job. I go back an hour later and everything is half done. I guess they got tired of the work even though I don't do layers.
Of course I also have a beef with people who calim to have ALL THE TOOLS; but then after you hire them all they do is harvest the crops and plow. Personally I think that employees should get some XP points for chopping or fishing. Maybe then more people would be willing to do those jobs.

I really think what happens is the person you hired with no tools got booted off for some reason and can't get back to finish what they started.

I also think if you hire a long term player (and you have no way of knowing) you are getting someone who remembers getting chewed out for harvesting trees and flowers. Way back when, we didn't do trees and flowers. And I will still ask occasionally.

I have come to the conclusion when I go to the market and get hired I am going to do everything I have tools for. If they don't want me to do something I won't have the tool available.

And, I like your idea of some incentive for boring jobs like fishing. :D I hate it on my own farm but at least I get ALL the fish. On someone else's you are getting so much less for the same work.

[KnightRider]

as someone that likes and owns the "tools" I would like to throw my "2 cents" in.When I am hired I immediately begin working the farm IF and that is a big IF I see another person tools or not generally w/o I will apologize and leave going to other farm or back to market. I don't think it is anyone but the Hiring Farmers fault. Why would you hire someone w/o tools when there are so many in mktplc stating they that is ridicoulos HAVE tools. @nd why Hire multiple farmers AT ALL! That is ridicoulous, your just making trouble. usr farmers without tools or without not TOGETHER!
I also blame devs for not making playing screen large enough to see more than a third of farm at a time!
If they can bre expandad then making original screen larger should not be a problem. Just greed of course make it too big no one would purchase expansion!

How can you say it is greed when the size of the screen is not up to Farm Town, it is how much Facebook decides to give them to use for their game, they are the ones that controls how much each game has to use, if you are going to blame anyone for the small screen, you would have to blame Facebook.

[Emily Murphy]

The only reason I hire people with tools is because nearly all my farms are stacked. However, I do have two farms that are not stacked. Bingo85308, if you find me, I will be happy to friend you and hire you when I can. If you feel you can do some stacked fields that are not too big, you can do those too. I usually do my own work because it is easier than trying to find someone reliable. I am usually on in the evening too. You can look me up...Emily Swearingen Murphy on Facebook and send me a friend request. Or leave a note on my farm. It is linked on here.

[Tiger]

The only reason I hire people with tools is because nearly all my farms are stacked. However, I do have two farms that are not stacked. Bingo85308, if you find me, I will be happy to friend you and hire you when I can. If you feel you can do some stacked fields that are not too big, you can do those too. I usually do my own work because it is easier than trying to find someone reliable. I am usually on in the evening too. You can look me up...Emily Swearingen Murphy on Facebook and send me a friend request. Or leave a note on my farm. It is linked on here.

Hi there,

We have a thread for requesting neighbours.......

FACEBOOK Neighbors Requests (http://www.slashkey.com/forum/showthread.php?t=391198)

[mrschar]

The only reason I hire people with tools is because nearly all my farms are stacked. However, I do have two farms that are not stacked. Bingo85308, if you find me, I will be happy to friend you and hire you when I can. If you feel you can do some stacked fields that are not too big, you can do those too. I usually do my own work because it is easier than trying to find someone reliable. I am usually on in the evening too. You can look me up...Emily Swearingen Murphy on Facebook and send me a friend request. Or leave a note on my farm. It is linked on here.

I only hire people without tools for fields that aren't overlapped, too. I have many neighbors whose occupation is FT and they are always on. But I know they are very busy with their "super farms" so I hesitate to ask them if they want to harvest and plow. They are all very sweet and some are very glad to help me harvest and plow and get some of the crops and we chat. But I just had an idea last week and when I've tried it, it has worked. I type out a message in word telling what all I have that needs doing and ask if anyone would like it. I give the time of the message and let them know I'm sending it to all neighbors who are currently on their farms. Every time I've done it, I've gotten one person almost immediately and sometimes another later asking if I still need help. I know them and can trust them to go to another farm and I can stay and plant that one. I don't have to worry about them stopping and leaving me in a bind.
Just an idea but it worked for me! ;)

[Vivienne57]

as someone that likes and owns the "tools" I would like to throw my "2 cents" in.When I am hired I immediately begin working the farm IF and that is a big IF I see another person tools or not generally w/o I will apologize and leave going to other farm or back to market. I don't think it is anyone but the Hiring Farmers fault. Why would you hire someone w/o tools when there are so many in mktplc stating they that is ridicoulos HAVE tools. @nd why Hire multiple farmers AT ALL! That is ridicoulous, your just making trouble. usr farmers without tools or without not TOGETHER!
I also blame devs for not making playing screen large enough to see more than a third of farm at a time!
If they can bre expandad then making original screen larger should not be a problem. Just greed of course make it too big no one would purchase expansion!

If you had read the post properly.....it was said that some farmers lie that they have tools and you only find out when they start working your farms that they haven't got any. Also why shouldn't we hire multiple farmers, it's our choice. When you have 15 farms it's a lot of work for 1 person and maybe that's why they don't finish. I have hired multiple farmers and have never had a problem :)

[bluehair]

If you had read the post properly.....it was said that some farmers lie that they have tools and you only find out when they start working your farms that they haven't got any. Also why shouldn't we hire multiple farmers, it's our choice. When you have 15 farms it's a lot of work for 1 person and maybe that's why they don't finish. I have hired multiple farmers and have never had a problem :)


on the odd occasiion when I have had multiple farms that need harvesting. when I get to ther market place I will say who has the combine tool and wants to do X number of farms (will be 15 tomorrow) on the odd occasion someon had said yes and they do not even have the 5X5 harvester...I tell you there is no way I would want to harvest single plots at a time lol

[Jean's Farm]

as someone that likes and owns the "tools" I would like to throw my "2 cents" in.When I am hired I immediately begin working the farm IF and that is a big IF I see another person tools or not generally w/o I will apologize and leave going to other farm or back to market. I don't think it is anyone but the Hiring Farmers fault. Why would you hire someone w/o tools when there are so many in mktplc stating they that is ridicoulos HAVE tools. @nd why Hire multiple farmers AT ALL! That is ridicoulous, your just making trouble. usr farmers without tools or without not TOGETHER!
I also blame devs for not making playing screen large enough to see more than a third of farm at a time!
If they can bre expandad then making original screen larger should not be a problem. Just greed of course make it too big no one would purchase expansion!


I have totally lost count of the amount of times I have been hired in the market place and when I get to the farm....there are already 4 or 5 people there and nothing left to do. Or a couple people already started and have over half it done. So I grab "my corner" of the world and before I know it someone is fighting me for what's left. And I have also been nice and left half the farm for someone with out tools. Only fair.

So, I'd like to say, "People if you have more than one farm that needs done...then hire ONE person for each farm." And it would be great if the devs could make it that you can only hire say Max of 2 people for one farm.

[Lady_Catalina]

If you had read the post properly.....it was said that some farmers lie that they have tools and you only find out when they start working your farms that they haven't got any. Also why shouldn't we hire multiple farmers, it's our choice. When you have 15 farms it's a lot of work for 1 person and maybe that's why they don't finish. I have hired multiple farmers and have never had a problem :)

I think that was exactly my point.
And just for comment; I try not to hire a single person for more than 4-5 farms.

[pythonis]

a lot of people are mistaken about what "tools" are. They buy the blue coin tools and think they have tools. Technically they do but it isnt the kind we are talking about.

[KnightRider]

a lot of people are mistaken about what "tools" are. They buy the blue coin tools and think they have tools. Technically they do but it isnt the kind we are talking about.

That's right, some people think when they buy the coin tools they can use them when they go to another farm, then they find out they can't, it is only the FC tools that can be used. The coin tools can only be used on their own farms.

[Danielle's Farms]

I didnt read all 100++ pages of this topic but I'll post my thoughts on some particular topics I remember.

When I first started the game yearsss ago..you could only have 1 farm. There was no tools, no facilities and not a whole lot of crops to choose from to plant. i played for a good long time until I stopped. I go on spurts. When i left, they had added where you could have up to 4 farms, and facilities were starting to come out. I stopped playing for at least a a year and a half to 2 years and I just started back last week and Im hooked again, and the game has really exploded since I last left.

I can totally understand the frustration of those who do not have the tools and cant afford to buy them. In a way, I do think its a little unfair execially when trying to find someone to hire you, and theres basically no point in staying if they hire someone else who has the tools because by the time you finish one row of crops or anything, everything else is gone. Last week when I started back and found a job, someone else came along who obviously had the tools and I didnt get hardly anything. At this time, I didnt even know you could use tools on other peoples farms. I bought a couple of tools with coins, only to find out you HAVE to buy the tools with farm cash in order to be able to use the tools on other farms. This was a little frustrating, but I broke down and bought enough cash to get me one of each tool I needed on the farm. It is very nice, now my biggest problem is with running out of fuel! Since I dont have a whole to many neighbors and my XP is only 80 right now, and the factory only produces so fast, I dont get a whole lot at once, and when you find a lot of jobs, it goes quick. I wish you could fill up more than once a day! Thats the really frustrating part.

I also hate beggers when going to the market to hire. I always hire from the market. The neighbors I have arnt active in the game anymore and its just quicker to go to the market. I've been pretty lucky, havnt had a rude person yet, though not to many people say thank you after they are done. But I'm not all that worried about it.

When im in the market to find a job, I usually stand towards the front away from others so whoever can click on me easily, and Ill say every few moments "hire me please!" or "any job welcome!" Stuff like that. i dont say it over and over and over, I usually wait a few moments than say it again. I know when Im hiring, I look for someone who says hire me or etc. but not begging. I dont click on anyone who is just standing there saying nothing, because I dont know whether they are there to hire someone, sell something or if they are even by the computer at all. So I dont mind people saying hire me every few moments because it makes it easiar on me when Im there to hire a person. Now I wont hire someone who is being obnoxious, flooding the chat and begging for a job. I will just sit and wait longer until another person comes along.

I usually only hire one person to do whatever i need to be done at my farm. I follow them back just to make sure they got there. Even if I see they have no tools and doing things one by one. I just leave them alone. I know when I didnt have no tools and landed a job with a lot of stuff to do. I was super excited, and when I saw no one else was hired, I was even more excited! lol So I try to do the same for others. I usually dont stay on my farm and hover over them, but theres plenty of times Im on the farm with the hired person, but Im doing other stuff on the computer. So even if the avator is on the farm, it doesnt always mean the person is hovering over every move you make. It doesnt bother me when im on the job for the farm owner to be there. I just go along my work. I'll talk to them if they say something, but its hard to chat and work at the same time. I always send a message when Im done though thanking them for the job.

If im only hired to harvest, but not plowing, or I see something else that needs to be done. If the farm owner is there, after I finish i'll thank them for the job and ask if they need me to do anything else. Most of the time, they hire me to do the rest. If not I just thank them and leave. Im not going to sit and beg, they are other jobs out there.

I also tend to give people the benefit of the doubt on the game. If I hire someone and they start a job, and I come back later to find it only half done and they are gone, I'll just go hire someone else. You never know what happened to the person on the other end. I've had plenty of times Ive accidently clicked them wrong button and it left the farm, I had no way to get back to the farm, so whoever hired me, might have thought I just left and didnt want the job or something. Theres been times my computers booted me off as well. So just remember, before getting all ****** and saying they are a horrible worker, people have lives. they may have had to go for some reason, or the computer may have just acted up. You never know. I know it really bugs me when that does happen though, the other day I landed a huge solo job, with a lot of crops and everything, ran out of fuel and when I went to fill up again, I accidently hit the Realor's Office instead of the fuel station. So I lost that job which sucked! And I had no way to get back to the farm because I didnt even get chance to see the farmers name.

As for crop hoggers and stuff. This kind of goes with what I said about the tools earlier. I can understand other people's frustrations, but im one know, I bought the tools with my money. I'm going to use them.(as long as I have fuel lol) I work fast and ill take whatevers there. Now if I see someone else was also hired Im not going to be all like "Go somewhere else! These crops are mine!" Thats just plain rude. Its a GAME. I'll just take whatever I get and move on, whoevers faster, gets what they get.

hmmm...i think I covered all the things I wanted to say as I was reading through the comments on this thread. Whoever read all this, kudos to you! ;)

[KnightRider]

When I hire at the marketplace, which is not very often. Like Danielle's Farms said, I will not hire the people that flood the chat or type "hire me" one letter per line. I have overlapping farms and I say "Looking for one person to harvest and plow overlapping field", sometimes I put in large or small depending on which farm it is. I don't mind hiring someone with no tools, been there before. I will follow them back to the farm and ask them "Can you handle the farm yourself or would you like help", if they say they can handle it I will let them do it all, I am usually not in any hurry for them to finish, I have other stuff I can do. Most of the time it is just easier if I do my own farms since I have the 5x5 h/p/s.

[Vivienne57]

I didnt read all 100++ pages of this topic but I'll post my thoughts on some particular topics I remember.

When I first started the game yearsss ago..you could only have 1 farm. There was no tools, no facilities and not a whole lot of crops to choose from to plant. i played for a good long time until I stopped. I go on spurts. When i left, they had added where you could have up to 4 farms, and facilities were starting to come out. I stopped playing for at least a a year and a half to 2 years and I just started back last week and Im hooked again, and the game has really exploded since I last left.

I can totally understand the frustration of those who do not have the tools and cant afford to buy them. In a way, I do think its a little unfair execially when trying to find someone to hire you, and theres basically no point in staying if they hire someone else who has the tools because by the time you finish one row of crops or anything, everything else is gone. Last week when I started back and found a job, someone else came along who obviously had the tools and I didnt get hardly anything. At this time, I didnt even know you could use tools on other peoples farms. I bought a couple of tools with coins, only to find out you HAVE to buy the tools with farm cash in order to be able to use the tools on other farms. This was a little frustrating, but I broke down and bought enough cash to get me one of each tool I needed on the farm. It is very nice, now my biggest problem is with running out of fuel! Since I dont have a whole to many neighbors and my XP is only 80 right now, and the factory only produces so fast, I dont get a whole lot at once, and when you find a lot of jobs, it goes quick. I wish you could fill up more than once a day! Thats the really frustrating part.

I also hate beggers when going to the market to hire. I always hire from the market. The neighbors I have arnt active in the game anymore and its just quicker to go to the market. I've been pretty lucky, havnt had a rude person yet, though not to many people say thank you after they are done. But I'm not all that worried about it.

When im in the market to find a job, I usually stand towards the front away from others so whoever can click on me easily, and Ill say every few moments "hire me please!" or "any job welcome!" Stuff like that. i dont say it over and over and over, I usually wait a few moments than say it again. I know when Im hiring, I look for someone who says hire me or etc. but not begging. I dont click on anyone who is just standing there saying nothing, because I dont know whether they are there to hire someone, sell something or if they are even by the computer at all. So I dont mind people saying hire me every few moments because it makes it easiar on me when Im there to hire a person. Now I wont hire someone who is being obnoxious, flooding the chat and begging for a job. I will just sit and wait longer until another person comes along.

I usually only hire one person to do whatever i need to be done at my farm. I follow them back just to make sure they got there. Even if I see they have no tools and doing things one by one. I just leave them alone. I know when I didnt have no tools and landed a job with a lot of stuff to do. I was super excited, and when I saw no one else was hired, I was even more excited! lol So I try to do the same for others. I usually dont stay on my farm and hover over them, but theres plenty of times Im on the farm with the hired person, but Im doing other stuff on the computer. So even if the avator is on the farm, it doesnt always mean the person is hovering over every move you make. It doesnt bother me when im on the job for the farm owner to be there. I just go along my work. I'll talk to them if they say something, but its hard to chat and work at the same time. I always send a message when Im done though thanking them for the job.

If im only hired to harvest, but not plowing, or I see something else that needs to be done. If the farm owner is there, after I finish i'll thank them for the job and ask if they need me to do anything else. Most of the time, they hire me to do the rest. If not I just thank them and leave. Im not going to sit and beg, they are other jobs out there.

I also tend to give people the benefit of the doubt on the game. If I hire someone and they start a job, and I come back later to find it only half done and they are gone, I'll just go hire someone else. You never know what happened to the person on the other end. I've had plenty of times Ive accidently clicked them wrong button and it left the farm, I had no way to get back to the farm, so whoever hired me, might have thought I just left and didnt want the job or something. Theres been times my computers booted me off as well. So just remember, before getting all ****** and saying they are a horrible worker, people have lives. they may have had to go for some reason, or the computer may have just acted up. You never know. I know it really bugs me when that does happen though, the other day I landed a huge solo job, with a lot of crops and everything, ran out of fuel and when I went to fill up again, I accidently hit the Realor's Office instead of the fuel station. So I lost that job which sucked! And I had no way to get back to the farm because I didnt even get chance to see the farmers name.

As for crop hoggers and stuff. This kind of goes with what I said about the tools earlier. I can understand other people's frustrations, but im one know, I bought the tools with my money. I'm going to use them.(as long as I have fuel lol) I work fast and ill take whatevers there. Now if I see someone else was also hired Im not going to be all like "Go somewhere else! These crops are mine!" Thats just plain rude. Its a GAME. I'll just take whatever I get and move on, whoevers faster, gets what they get.

hmmm...i think I covered all the things I wanted to say as I was reading through the comments on this thread. Whoever read all this, kudos to you! ;)
You don't need to beg at the market or in fact say anything at all if you use the right colours....red means you are wanting work and pink means you are hiring. Can't remember the others but these two colours are the most important. Saying Hire me' or 'available to work' even a few times to me is begging :o)

[pythonis]

Saying Hire me' or 'available to work' even a few times to me is begging :o)
same here......

[Danielle's Farms]

Well that is ya'll opinion so thats fine! I dont really look at the colors, because most people dont use them or use different colors, I guess to make them stand out more, but their status message is asking for a job. So I dont find that all to useful. I look for someone who isnt going "HIRE ME PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ". I won't hire anyone who types in all caps or keeps posting back to back to back, and I wont hire someone who isnt saying a thing at all, because like I've said. I dont know whether they are selling something, their to hire or even by the computer at all. So to me, saying "Hire me please" every few moments, never to where its so often it makes a giant bubble. Thats not begging to me. So I was just adding my thoughts in!=)

[Jean's Farm]

Well that is ya'll opinion so thats fine! I dont really look at the colors, because most people dont use them or use different colors, I guess to make them stand out more, but their status message is asking for a job. So I dont find that all to useful. I look for someone who isnt going "HIRE ME PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ". I won't hire anyone who types in all caps or keeps posting back to back to back, and I wont hire someone who isnt saying a thing at all, because like I've said. I dont know whether they are selling something, their to hire or even by the computer at all. So to me, saying "Hire me please" every few moments, never to where its so often it makes a giant bubble. Thats not begging to me. So I was just adding my thoughts in!=)


So, I go to the market place to sell my goods or work. When I go to sell my goods I go off line so I see no one and no one sees me. When I go to work I change my color to red to work. I'm one of those people who don't speak at all because I find the begging annoying!!!!! So, I want to work and am a good worker and you won't hire me cause I don't say anything but my name is in red screaming work please. If someone comes in and says (for example) "I have trees who wants them." I will say their name and please. And then walk over beside them.

And, I believe if someone is doing the "HIRE ME PLZZZZZZZZZZZ" (or some such garbage) if you click on them you can block or maybe it's ignore and I believe they disappear from your sight then. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. :)

[birdsong54]

I have read All of these Posts and find them to be on the "hatefullness" side of comments Gee it is Only a Game.I find that the Lower leveled people Look forward to the PLOWING so as to move up in Levels Not for any other reason

[Danielle's Farms]

So, I go to the market place to sell my goods or work. When I go to sell my goods I go off line so I see no one and no one sees me. When I go to work I change my color to red to work. I'm one of those people who don't speak at all because I find the begging annoying!!!!! So, I want to work and am a good worker and you won't hire me cause I don't say anything but my name is in red screaming work please. If someone comes in and says (for example) "I have trees who wants them." I will say their name and please. And then walk over beside them.

And, I believe if someone is doing the "HIRE ME PLZZZZZZZZZZZ" (or some such garbage) if you click on them you can block or maybe it's ignore and I believe they disappear from your sight then. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. :)

:rolleyes: Touchy are we? People its a game. If your going to get this annoyed over something as little as someone saying "Hire me please!" every once in a while. find something else to do.

No where did I say I wouldnt hire anyone who puts there color as red. I've gone to the market to hire, and its been dead silent. Times like that, I'll click on to hire someone if they have the red status on. but 9 times out of 10 I dont get a reply and I have to wait for someone else to come along. So no, I dont just use the color alone when I am hiring, but I didnt say I wouldnt use the color thing if no one is talking. I've seen plenty of people who are blue and another color and asking for a job. So not everyone uses it when looking for a job. When I started back I didnt even know you could change the color to whatever your looking for. I kept wondering why some people were red, some were blue etc. It wasnt till I clicked around and hit my avator and pulled it up by accident did I find it. Like I said..begging to me is not Saying "any job welcome" or "hire me please!" every few moments. When they are not flooding the chat box by not saying it back to back. Plus when the market is really busy, it makes it easier on me to look for the bubble in the mix between all the people. If your silent, no bubble. So if its crowded, it will be harder to find you unless you are directly in front.

I know you can put people on ignore, but I generally dont bother. Their are usually enough people in the market place that are looking for a job, that it doesnt really bother me. I just wont hire them, but I wont block them because im usually not in the market place long enough for it to really bother me. The only time I have blocked is when someone kept posting over and over and posting so fast, I couldnt see other peoples messages before his messages moved them off the chat box.

[pythonis]

Be it in real life or in a virtual game everyone should do their best and be on their best behavior period.

[Jean's Farm]

:rolleyes: Touchy are we? People its a game. If your going to get this annoyed over something as little as someone saying "Hire me please!" every once in a while. find something else to do.


No I am NOT touchy....only when people don't read my post correctly!!!! :)

[SeaJay]

I have to give a shout out to all frustrated hiring farmers.

If someone has taken the time to make their name reflect that they have all tools and want solo work, my idea is, GIVE IT TO THEM SOLO!! Quit trying to change them and instead, change the way you hire. If you have to have more than one farmer working for you then take the time to click on all functions and then hire one person for 1 farm. Then hire another, de-selecting the first farm and selecting the next farm that has work. Your frustrations are so easily avoided if you will take the time to be conscientious. You are the one who is asking for help. You shouldn't then DEMAND how it is done. You have to trust that people who want solo work are tired of being run over and clamouring for work against even one other person.

The frustration over hiring people to fish seems overly mind bending to so many of you. Very rarely do people want to fish!! It would be good for you to just be able to accept this and fish your own waters???? Problem solved. Never again will it frustrate you when someone doesn't want to fish your 25 river pieces with no bait!!! If you don't want to do your own fishing, imagine how someone else feels who has FC waters of thier own and are completely over fishing for someone else who is angry and demanding because people won't fish out their 32 fish 100 times!!! Don't expect anyone to do what you don't feel like doing yourself. It's your game. Your needs are known only by you. If you hate fishing so much, get rid of any of the facilities that need fish!!! WOW!! How freeing is that?? If you don't want to get rid of the seafood places, then get out your rod and start fishing. Supply and demand. You create your own demands and you have the power to supply them. If you don't want to fill your own needs, quit laying that on the players who have to do their own fishing also because YOU don't feel like fishing for them either!!

And to the developers. You really need to even this out. Market places should be coded for levels and/or tools owned. PERIOD!! It isn't unfair but TOTALLY fair. You don't hire a youth football player to play linebacker for the Green Bay Packers Yo!!!

[SeaJay]

I didnt read all 100++ pages of this topic but I'll post my thoughts on some particular topics I remember.

When I first started the game yearsss ago..you could only have 1 farm. There was no tools, no facilities and not a whole lot of crops to choose from to plant. i played for a good long time until I stopped. I go on spurts. When i left, they had added where you could have up to 4 farms, and facilities were starting to come out. I stopped playing for at least a a year and a half to 2 years and I just started back last week and Im hooked again, and the game has really exploded since I last left.

I can totally understand the frustration of those who do not have the tools and cant afford to buy them. In a way, I do think its a little unfair execially when trying to find someone to hire you, and theres basically no point in staying if they hire someone else who has the tools because by the time you finish one row of crops or anything, everything else is gone. Last week when I started back and found a job, someone else came along who obviously had the tools and I didnt get hardly anything. At this time, I didnt even know you could use tools on other peoples farms. I bought a couple of tools with coins, only to find out you HAVE to buy the tools with farm cash in order to be able to use the tools on other farms. This was a little frustrating, but I broke down and bought enough cash to get me one of each tool I needed on the farm. It is very nice, now my biggest problem is with running out of fuel! Since I dont have a whole to many neighbors and my XP is only 80 right now, and the factory only produces so fast, I dont get a whole lot at once, and when you find a lot of jobs, it goes quick. I wish you could fill up more than once a day! Thats the really frustrating part.

I also hate beggers when going to the market to hire. I always hire from the market. The neighbors I have arnt active in the game anymore and its just quicker to go to the market. I've been pretty lucky, havnt had a rude person yet, though not to many people say thank you after they are done. But I'm not all that worried about it.

When im in the market to find a job, I usually stand towards the front away from others so whoever can click on me easily, and Ill say every few moments "hire me please!" or "any job welcome!" Stuff like that. i dont say it over and over and over, I usually wait a few moments than say it again. I know when Im hiring, I look for someone who says hire me or etc. but not begging. I dont click on anyone who is just standing there saying nothing, because I dont know whether they are there to hire someone, sell something or if they are even by the computer at all. So I dont mind people saying hire me every few moments because it makes it easiar on me when Im there to hire a person. Now I wont hire someone who is being obnoxious, flooding the chat and begging for a job. I will just sit and wait longer until another person comes along.

I usually only hire one person to do whatever i need to be done at my farm. I follow them back just to make sure they got there. Even if I see they have no tools and doing things one by one. I just leave them alone. I know when I didnt have no tools and landed a job with a lot of stuff to do. I was super excited, and when I saw no one else was hired, I was even more excited! lol So I try to do the same for others. I usually dont stay on my farm and hover over them, but theres plenty of times Im on the farm with the hired person, but Im doing other stuff on the computer. So even if the avator is on the farm, it doesnt always mean the person is hovering over every move you make. It doesnt bother me when im on the job for the farm owner to be there. I just go along my work. I'll talk to them if they say something, but its hard to chat and work at the same time. I always send a message when Im done though thanking them for the job.

If im only hired to harvest, but not plowing, or I see something else that needs to be done. If the farm owner is there, after I finish i'll thank them for the job and ask if they need me to do anything else. Most of the time, they hire me to do the rest. If not I just thank them and leave. Im not going to sit and beg, they are other jobs out there.

I also tend to give people the benefit of the doubt on the game. If I hire someone and they start a job, and I come back later to find it only half done and they are gone, I'll just go hire someone else. You never know what happened to the person on the other end. I've had plenty of times Ive accidently clicked them wrong button and it left the farm, I had no way to get back to the farm, so whoever hired me, might have thought I just left and didnt want the job or something. Theres been times my computers booted me off as well. So just remember, before getting all ****** and saying they are a horrible worker, people have lives. they may have had to go for some reason, or the computer may have just acted up. You never know. I know it really bugs me when that does happen though, the other day I landed a huge solo job, with a lot of crops and everything, ran out of fuel and when I went to fill up again, I accidently hit the Realor's Office instead of the fuel station. So I lost that job which sucked! And I had no way to get back to the farm because I didnt even get chance to see the farmers name.

As for crop hoggers and stuff. This kind of goes with what I said about the tools earlier. I can understand other people's frustrations, but im one know, I bought the tools with my money. I'm going to use them.(as long as I have fuel lol) I work fast and ill take whatevers there. Now if I see someone else was also hired Im not going to be all like "Go somewhere else! These crops are mine!" Thats just plain rude. Its a GAME. I'll just take whatever I get and move on, whoevers faster, gets what they get.

hmmm...i think I covered all the things I wanted to say as I was reading through the comments on this thread. Whoever read all this, kudos to you! ;)

I totally agree with everything you have said!!! Kudos to you!!

[jamieg25]

if the person hires to plow or any other thing could be like me -- at times i use fuel faster than get it and end up hiring people to harvest just to get crops in on time but not need help plowing with the solar plow not using fuel

also we should be able to get requests based on tools we actually do have so if no way to do a job then do not even get that offer

[barbara nixon]

i used to go to work for other via market..not any more...i have a couple of neighbors who work for me and i for them..i don't hire anyone..i just do it myself..i fish myself and do my own trees unless my neighbors who help want to do them..u don't get xp for them and very little boxes so it's just easier and faster to do it myself..i have 15 farms and all the tools and am a happy camper doing most of it myself..we need to play the game the way WE want and quit complaining...i do...i enjoy it..expecially eht decorating..glad to finally have people..

[HillBillyJane]

I figure when i hire for help it says on it Harvest plow fish chop flowers and if people dont want to do the jobs they should say NO and turn it down but if they have 20 lakes for fishing or trees mixed all over with harvesting and chopping and takes allday to work they really should do that them selves it does but me when i hire for stuff that they dont do when i have only 10 min of fishing

[Fred Bee]

What is going on with people taking a job, coming to the farm, then not doing the work? It seems as thugh if the crop is celery or mustard, that it is not good enough, so they leave. Not every crop can be acorn squash!

What makes it even more frustrating is if I have to leave after hiring them, and when I get home, the crop is wasted because they did not like it!


Fred, gentleman farmer

[KnightRider]

What is going on with people taking a job, coming to the farm, then not doing the work? It seems as thugh if the crop is celery or mustard, that it is not good enough, so they leave. Not every crop can be acorn squash!

What makes it even more frustrating is if I have to leave after hiring them, and when I get home, the crop is wasted because they did not like it!


Fred, gentleman farmer

It might not always be that they leave, it is just that they are disconnected and can't get back to your farm, there are a lot of people that gets booted and when they reload they can't make it back to the farm they was on, but the other person just thinks that they left.

[Dutch85]

What is going on with people taking a job, coming to the farm, then not doing the work? It seems as thugh if the crop is celery or mustard, that it is not good enough, so they leave. Not every crop can be acorn squash!

What makes it even more frustrating is if I have to leave after hiring them, and when I get home, the crop is wasted because they did not like it!


Fred, gentleman farmer

Sorry this has happened to you but it's really nothing new. I gave up trying to hire at the market for the less expensive crops. If people are just wanting xp's they will work them, but not if they want coins.

[clogger]

If it is a crop at risk of wilting, you could harvest it yourself, or wait to see if the employee gets it done. I think people get booted more than just leaving.
Not sure why they would want acorn squash; it isn't used in any facility. I only grow it when I am going to be gone and might not have time to play for a week.

[CynthiaSue]

I normally tell what the crop is when it is a low coin crop. That way I know the person is willing to do it. I rarely lose a worker, though sometimes the person leaves without plowing, once in a long while they leave before finishing the crop. It doesn't bother me, I simply rehire or finish it myself. It is never a crop at risk of wilting before I could check back on it.

I never tell what the crop is when it is acorn squash. I simply hire someone willing to harvest/plow. I NEVER hire teh person saying they want to do acorn squash. I think if they aren't willing to do cheap crops, there is no way I will hire them to do the best. That is my pet peeve, people saying they will only do acorn squash or blasting the screen with their desire to do acorn squash. I tend to plant alot of acorn squash, but they will never get mine. I harvested alot of grapes and even raspberries when I first started playing, way before any of the tools came out. To me those saying they will only do acorn squash are kind of saying that they are more important than others, they are too good to do cheaper crops. My view: Why should they get acorn squash and not the person willing to do my potatoes.

If you only lose workers when it is low coin crops, I think I would assume they are leaving and not getting booted. If it happens about the same for each, than, I guess I would assume they are getting booted. Perhaps your fields are hard to work on.

[snow_angel]

Now this is just the opposite; how about when someone hires you and you get to their farm and there is nothing to do. No harvesting, plowing, fishing, no trees not even any flowers. This happened to me twice last week and on one of the farms their crops weren't even ready for another hour.

[CynthiaSue]

Now this is just the opposite; how about when someone hires you and you get to their farm and there is nothing to do. No harvesting, plowing, fishing, no trees not even any flowers. This happened to me twice last week and on one of the farms their crops weren't even ready for another hour.

I didn't think it allowed you to hire if there wasn't anything ready. Most of the time I only hire one field at a time. One time I accidentally clicked the wrong farm and I got a message saying nothing was ready on that farm.

[pythonis]

Now this is just the opposite; how about when someone hires you and you get to their farm and there is nothing to do. No harvesting, plowing, fishing, no trees not even any flowers. This happened to me twice last week and on one of the farms their crops weren't even ready for another hour.

What else can you do but shrug your shoulders, say "oh well", and leave?

[CynthiaSue]

I didnt read all 100++ pages of this topic but I'll post my thoughts on some particular topics I remember.

When I first started the game yearsss ago..you could only have 1 farm. There was no tools, no facilities and not a whole lot of crops to choose from to plant. i played for a good long time until I stopped. I go on spurts. When i left, they had added where you could have up to 4 farms, and facilities were starting to come out. I stopped playing for at least a a year and a half to 2 years and I just started back last week and Im hooked again, and the game has really exploded since I last left.

I can totally understand the frustration of those who do not have the tools and cant afford to buy them. In a way, I do think its a little unfair execially when trying to find someone to hire you, and theres basically no point in staying if they hire someone else who has the tools because by the time you finish one row of crops or anything, everything else is gone. Last week when I started back and found a job, someone else came along who obviously had the tools and I didnt get hardly anything. At this time, I didnt even know you could use tools on other peoples farms. I bought a couple of tools with coins, only to find out you HAVE to buy the tools with farm cash in order to be able to use the tools on other farms. This was a little frustrating, but I broke down and bought enough cash to get me one of each tool I needed on the farm. It is very nice, now my biggest problem is with running out of fuel! Since I dont have a whole to many neighbors and my XP is only 80 right now, and the factory only produces so fast, I dont get a whole lot at once, and when you find a lot of jobs, it goes quick. I wish you could fill up more than once a day! Thats the really frustrating part.

I also hate beggers when going to the market to hire. I always hire from the market. The neighbors I have arnt active in the game anymore and its just quicker to go to the market. I've been pretty lucky, havnt had a rude person yet, though not to many people say thank you after they are done. But I'm not all that worried about it.

When im in the market to find a job, I usually stand towards the front away from others so whoever can click on me easily, and Ill say every few moments "hire me please!" or "any job welcome!" Stuff like that. i dont say it over and over and over, I usually wait a few moments than say it again. I know when Im hiring, I look for someone who says hire me or etc. but not begging. I dont click on anyone who is just standing there saying nothing, because I dont know whether they are there to hire someone, sell something or if they are even by the computer at all. So I dont mind people saying hire me every few moments because it makes it easiar on me when Im there to hire a person. Now I wont hire someone who is being obnoxious, flooding the chat and begging for a job. I will just sit and wait longer until another person comes along.

I usually only hire one person to do whatever i need to be done at my farm. I follow them back just to make sure they got there. Even if I see they have no tools and doing things one by one. I just leave them alone. I know when I didnt have no tools and landed a job with a lot of stuff to do. I was super excited, and when I saw no one else was hired, I was even more excited! lol So I try to do the same for others. I usually dont stay on my farm and hover over them, but theres plenty of times Im on the farm with the hired person, but Im doing other stuff on the computer. So even if the avator is on the farm, it doesnt always mean the person is hovering over every move you make. It doesnt bother me when im on the job for the farm owner to be there. I just go along my work. I'll talk to them if they say something, but its hard to chat and work at the same time. I always send a message when Im done though thanking them for the job.

If im only hired to harvest, but not plowing, or I see something else that needs to be done. If the farm owner is there, after I finish i'll thank them for the job and ask if they need me to do anything else. Most of the time, they hire me to do the rest. If not I just thank them and leave. Im not going to sit and beg, they are other jobs out there.

I also tend to give people the benefit of the doubt on the game. If I hire someone and they start a job, and I come back later to find it only half done and they are gone, I'll just go hire someone else. You never know what happened to the person on the other end. I've had plenty of times Ive accidently clicked them wrong button and it left the farm, I had no way to get back to the farm, so whoever hired me, might have thought I just left and didnt want the job or something. Theres been times my computers booted me off as well. So just remember, before getting all ****** and saying they are a horrible worker, people have lives. they may have had to go for some reason, or the computer may have just acted up. You never know. I know it really bugs me when that does happen though, the other day I landed a huge solo job, with a lot of crops and everything, ran out of fuel and when I went to fill up again, I accidently hit the Realor's Office instead of the fuel station. So I lost that job which sucked! And I had no way to get back to the farm because I didnt even get chance to see the farmers name.

As for crop hoggers and stuff. This kind of goes with what I said about the tools earlier. I can understand other people's frustrations, but im one know, I bought the tools with my money. I'm going to use them.(as long as I have fuel lol) I work fast and ill take whatevers there. Now if I see someone else was also hired Im not going to be all like "Go somewhere else! These crops are mine!" Thats just plain rude. Its a GAME. I'll just take whatever I get and move on, whoevers faster, gets what they get.

hmmm...i think I covered all the things I wanted to say as I was reading through the comments on this thread. Whoever read all this, kudos to you! ;)

I like it if the people wanting a job talk a little. I like it if they say "no tools". I have jobs sometimes just for them. I like it if they say they do layers. I have jobs sometimes for them. I like it if they say they like chopping. If they say nothing and don't move, I don't hire them. I have learned that sometimes they simply aren't at their computers. I have come back later and found them still standing in the same spot. I hire people who actually appear to be there. I like it if they answer me with my name or layers or chop or whatever teh job is. When I ask for someone to do something and some one says "me" I don't know who they are talking to. Sometimes I hire them anyway, but I normally hire someone who says my name before someone who says "me" since I KNOW they are ok with the job I am offering.

Also, if I take a job chopping trees, the only job I normally take since I like to chop and have the tool, and they hire 2 and the other person doesn't ahve a tool, I only do about half. I believe it is kind. I have harvested and the person with tools took it all. Of course they are faster than me since I don't ahve the harvesting tool, and I suppose have the "right" to do whatever they can. But, it isn't very nice. I don't like it when they do that to me. I would never do that to someone else. I share the work. Just because one is faster doesn't mean that one should do it. If I wouldn't do something to someone in real life, I don't believe it is nice to do it in a game.

If I take a job to harvest and someone else is hired who hogs it all including the small area I am working on one plot at a time, I hide them so that I never hire them to work on my farm. It is inconsiderate and they are getting plenty of work without my farm from the looks of it. It won't hurt me any, cause I rarely take a job working on anyone elses farm. I only do it if I am bored and someone sends me the request without me offering to do it anyway. Still don't know why people send me multi job farm request when I don't say I want it. No wonder many people don't do it all. It normally has every job imaginable on the list.

I also only hire one person at a time on each farm. I will hire people without tools for any job no matter how long it takes them IF they want the job. I have had people without tools do layers even, a whole field of them. I know I wouldn't do it myself, but if they want to, more power to them. I feel sorry for them, but I normally tell them if they don't want to do it all, feel free to just do what they want to do. They have amazed me and finished the whole thing. Some people will still work hard to move up in the game.

[MaKettle1]

hmm, my complaint is the opposite, people who agree to work.. pick and choose and leave. I have a large farm and use the multiple hire tool.. when possible.. and am content to let good workers work the whole farm.. but mostly people only want to plow.. never mind fishing or picking fruit.. flowers forget it.. As a result I don't use the market anymore except to buy and sell goods.

[pythonis]

hmm, my complaint is the opposite, people who agree to work.. pick and choose and leave. I have a large farm and use the multiple hire tool.. when possible.. and am content to let good workers work the whole farm.. but mostly people only want to plow.. never mind fishing or picking fruit.. flowers forget it.. As a result I don't use the market anymore except to buy and sell goods.
And that, IMO, is what has ruined the marketplace. People picking and choosing what they want. Personally i think that the person shouldnt be allowed to leave until the job they agreed to do is done. They leave it sends them right back. They get booted it sends them right back. Im more partial to players who come to the market to get goods for their facs via working for others. I cant stand it when i hire someone to harvest fields of crops just so they can turn around and sell the stuff for a cpl coins to buy decorations when someone else is in the market looking all over for crops that I had the whole time.

[mrschar]

Danielle, I wish I could get together with you and we could be neighbors. I would hire you. I do like to hire people who need the XP, and don't like beggers. I have had people leave a job half done, but I also realize it could be an accident. When I hire someone, especially to harvest AND plow, I follow them back to see what kind of tools they have. My fields are very big and overlapped, and time consuming without tools. I will ask them if they want a helper. Some do, some don't. I have even seen very meticulous workers and helped myself. The last time, I asked if she'd like me to harvest and let her plow for the XP. She was very excited about that and it helped her with her little plow. BUT I also, send them a message. That way, if they get bumped off the farm accidently, they have a way to message me and come back for a re-hire. I just tell them Ill be on another farm, and if they need me message me. I have the combine and green fishing boat myself, but no treeshaker or chainsaw, so I don't like to do trees or flowers. But IF I am multi-hired for those, I try to do them all, even though it takes me so long. I know how frustrating it is to hire someone, come back later ready to plant, and the job isn't completeted. OH--I am at work, and can not get on FB or the game. Weird that the e-mail link lets me come here. If I was home, I could link my farm for you to visit.

[God's Saving Grace Of 3]

I still think we need two markets for hire one for tools and one for no tools. I do not mind working with others either way, but I just feel so bad when I start running over the non tooled workers. I also never hire the non tooled workers for the same reason, our farms have gotten so big and complicated that I feel bad for them trying to work there way through and they never are able to complete the farms before they get booted.

[God's Saving Grace Of 3]

I would love to have a way for my neighbors to be able to work my farms when they come into visit, if I am not there to hire them. We help each other out in real life so why not here as well? I have gone to many of my neighbors to work factories and so forth and noticed their crops need harvested, and would have loved to of been able to help them.

[God's Saving Grace Of 3]

I like it if the people wanting a job talk a little. I like it if they say "no tools". I have jobs sometimes just for them. I like it if they say they do layers. I have jobs sometimes for them. I like it if they say they like chopping. If they say nothing and don't move, I don't hire them. I have learned that sometimes they simply aren't at their computers. I have come back later and found them still standing in the same spot. I hire people who actually appear to be there. I like it if they answer me with my name or layers or chop or whatever teh job is. When I ask for someone to do something and some one says "me" I don't know who they are talking to. Sometimes I hire them anyway, but I normally hire someone who says my name before someone who says "me" since I KNOW they are ok with the job I am offering.

Also, if I take a job chopping trees, the only job I normally take since I like to chop and have the tool, and they hire 2 and the other person doesn't ahve a tool, I only do about half. I believe it is kind. I have harvested and the person with tools took it all. Of course they are faster than me since I don't ahve the harvesting tool, and I suppose have the "right" to do whatever they can. But, it isn't very nice. I don't like it when they do that to me. I would never do that to someone else. I share the work. Just because one is faster doesn't mean that one should do it. If I wouldn't do something to someone in real life, I don't believe it is nice to do it in a game.

If I take a job to harvest and someone else is hired who hogs it all including the small area I am working on one plot at a time, I hide them so that I never hire them to work on my farm. It is inconsiderate and they are getting plenty of work without my farm from the looks of it. It won't hurt me any, cause I rarely take a job working on anyone elses farm. I only do it if I am bored and someone sends me the request without me offering to do it anyway. Still don't know why people send me multi job farm request when I don't say I want it. No wonder many people don't do it all. It normally has every job imaginable on the list.

I also only hire one person at a time on each farm. I will hire people without tools for any job no matter how long it takes them IF they want the job. I have had people without tools do layers even, a whole field of them. I know I wouldn't do it myself, but if they want to, more power to them. I feel sorry for them, but I normally tell them if they don't want to do it all, feel free to just do what they want to do. They have amazed me and finished the whole thing. Some people will still work hard to move up in the game.
This is why we need two market places for hire. I have all the tools and hate having to watch the ones without struggling to get it done. I try to leave hafe, but sometimes the (doomed) black box gets in the way and I am just trying to get around it. I think the farms have gotten way to big for those who are struggling to do it all by hand.

[beckycoats]

I think being courteous, like we should strive to be in real life, pays all around on FT. As many have mentioned above, remembering what it was like in the beginning without tools, and leaving a reasonable amount for them if you are one of several workers, is polite and kind, allows them to move up in the game, and you may meet good workers for future jobs simply by being polite and considerate. I often tell the toolless worker I am leaving the rest for them, or if they are working my farm, I will ask if they have time to do a big job or want help, to share chopping or flowers and so forth. I just pop back in to the market and hire for specific jobs or just one of my farms at a time. If I happen onto someone with all tools, who will do all jobs (like me...I'll do anything, as it all pays off in the end....) then I just solo hire for the whole shebang. Just communicating is helpful. If a worker doesn't respond, I send a message, wait, maybe try again...if I get no response, I leave for a bit then check in and see how far they have gotten, how slow or fast they are, and if they are purposely leaving certain jobs out. If they won't answer, I then hire maybe one more worker if they are too slow....Depends on how much time I have.... Again, I appreciate communication, but many workers are not fluent in English or aren't good typists, or simply go right to full screen and can't see/ respond to messages...or are just rude! Lol.... Whatever the reason, if someone isn't responding, I give them the benefit of the doubt, but hire more workers to get the job done.

I like this thread. It helps to see how others feel/ see the game. Some folks are pretty selfish, others are polite....but, in the end, it is just a game and we can be selective or not depending on how others behave.

Ta.

[pythonis]

I think being courteous, like we should strive to be in real life, pays all around on FT. As many have mentioned above, remembering what it was like in the beginning without tools, and leaving a reasonable amount for them if you are one of several workers, is polite and kind, allows them to move up in the game, and you may meet good workers for future jobs simply by being polite and considerate. I often tell the toolless worker I am leaving the rest for them, or if they are working my farm, I will ask if they have time to do a big job or want help, to share chopping or flowers and so forth. I just pop back in to the market and hire for specific jobs or just one of my farms at a time. If I happen onto someone with all tools, who will do all jobs (like me...I'll do anything, as it all pays off in the end....) then I just solo hire for the whole shebang. Just communicating is helpful. If a worker doesn't respond, I send a message, wait, maybe try again...if I get no response, I leave for a bit then check in and see how far they have gotten, how slow or fast they are, and if they are purposely leaving certain jobs out. If they won't answer, I then hire maybe one more worker if they are too slow....Depends on how much time I have.... Again, I appreciate communication, but many workers are not fluent in English or aren't good typists, or simply go right to full screen and can't see/ respond to messages...or are just rude! Lol.... Whatever the reason, if someone isn't responding, I give them the benefit of the doubt, but hire more workers to get the job done.

I like this thread. It helps to see how others feel/ see the game. Some folks are pretty selfish, others are polite....but, in the end, it is just a game and we can be selective or not depending on how others behave.

Ta.It has nothing to do with not remembering what it was like. When I hire people I want the job done quickly and efficiently because I can do the job myself a lot faster than anyone else. I would like nothing more than to hire everyone in the market but it seems everyone wants solo work which means we have to sit there and wait anywhere from 10 minutes to over an hour for the worker to get done with one farm. Im patient but Im not THAT patient. And many can agree with me to the fact that for the most part every time we hire a tool-less person they either leave or get booted in the middle of the job. I can give ppl the benefit of the doubt on occasion but every single time every single day? I dont think so. I hate hiring ppl at max level because imo they dont need the work. They should already have a huge warehouse full of goods to run their facilities and should basically be self contained. I root for the underdog so to speak so when I go to hire in the market I look for non maxed level players but id like for them to have tools. Why? Because it shows that youre willing to help as well. Granted if youre level 20 or so i dont expect you to have them, but if youre level 285 theres no reason for not having some. You come to the market to help work on peoples farms so IMO you should put the farmers needs first. If youre level 173 or whatever that means youve gotten that many FC plus 5 so what did you spend them on? A cute little puppy dog that cost you 15 FC? A house with a snowman on the porch that cost you 33? The perfume factory? I just cant see why anyone would not want the tools especially people that constantly go to the market to work for others. Thats why I have 99% stopped going to the market. Every time I go there its nothing but a mix of players who either dont have tools and want to take their dear sweet time or they have tools but they have excessive millions xp over the max. I have no problem hiring more workers but the lot of those who do work in the market will leave as soon as the 2nd person shows up or the person we just hired will turn around and leave because theres someone already there. When did people get so greedy? So people go over you with their tools...so what? You can always get hired again for something else in the market. If you dont want tools fine but hey at least be willing to team up with others to help out.

[ropulse]

I would like the option to hire workers to do everything. I frequently hire with all boxes checked and for all 15 farms. Each farms has a mix of Plants, Flowers, Trees, Chopping and Fish to be done, depending on the how long the worker works, more products mature.

I also feel that individual workers that want to work SOLO must be also willing to do everything that the farmer has hired for them to do. SOLO has another problem, in that the farmer does not have control on how fast individuals respond to a hire request, I have had workers respond to hire request in the order of 10 minutes. SOLO workers can be brutal with their messages if another worker shows up, something completely out of the control of the hiring farmer.

I feel that there should be reputation ratings for workers. It would be percentage of the jobs done when hired, and a fast, medium, or slow rating for the speed that they work.

I would like to use the buddy list as a list of qualified workers and hire directly from that list. This might be a way to handle the vacation issue, by issuing an unlimited hire request to buddies; this would pop up when they log on for a period of time.

[pythonis]

I believe its FT etiquette to not accept jobs that you have waiting for you after being AFK.

And I do not accept jobs from people who have all boxes checked because most of the time its people who are just lazy and dont want to go and check the appropriate boxes. if you dont have plowing then dont check the box. If you dont have flowers then dont check the box. Etc etc etc.

A rating system would be nice but with OCD-"All or nothing" type people like myself i dont think youd like it because we'd give the lot of people low scores.

The buddy system thing could work provided those people could be counted on to play the game continuously. If someone had hired me to do stuff for them their crops just might be dead right now because i just havent had any motivation to play FT since the last update.

As for people being rude with their solo only remarks, when that happens i go and do the work myself right over top of them. If the people complain i simply say "you either both share or you both get nothing". I dont condone (which in my world means 'i wont put up with') selfishness.