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ellshere
Jan 24 2010, 02:29 PM
The developers know that many of you have issues with hiring practices and they are aware of the suggestions made to date in the suggestions forum to combat the "problem". They are also aware of the fact that others are equally vehemently opposed to some of these ideas. It is unknown at this time whether or not the developers have any plans to implement these ideas. However, if you wish to continue to voice your opinions for them, please do so in the appropriate threads in the Suggestions Forum.

This thread is NOT to be used as a "name and shame" thread. Any posts including Farm or Farm Avatar names will be deleted without notice to the poster.

pg tips
Jan 24 2010, 05:20 PM
oooh a new thread ive got to say hire me with alot or by myself its down to your own personal choice to do what you want on your own farm if the staff dont like it they can leave

Same for if your hired if you dont like it say thanks but no thanks and leave

JAS0643
Jan 24 2010, 09:34 PM
Thank you for starting this thread I'm and one of the people getting sick of the why wasn't I hired to plow threads popping up every other week.

My opinion on hiring to plow:

No matter what crop you are hired to harvest you are not entitled to the plowing. Just because a farmer hired you to harvest doesn't mean they have to hire you for another job even if you can see a job that needs to be done. It is fine to ask to plow after the harvesting is done. It is even fine to send a note to the farmer if they are not there as they might be on their other farm, just nicely ask and send it after you finish harvesting. If they are on the other farm they will pop over in a minute and hire you to plow if not leave after a minute or so assuming they are not at the computer. Don't leave several messages getting meaner as you go because they have not come back to hire you.

One more thing if you get to a farm that has a ton of trees on the farm if full fruit and you can't harvest the fruit, don't send a message to the farmer asking if they wont their trees done. If they wanted their trees done they would have hired you to do them to start with.

causingchaos
Jan 25 2010, 03:09 PM
I too agree about the plowing stuff. I don't typically hire the same people to harvest and plow. Sometimes I just like to plow my own farm. If people don't want to harvest my crops without complaining about plowing I would appreciate if they would just leave my farm and I will hire people who are happy to be harvesting my crops.

I'm also kind of sick of people who think they are entitled to my entire farm when I hire them. I'll hire 2-3 people depending on the conditions in the market place. I don't have time to sit around and wait for people to respond. If I don't get a quick response there I move on to hiring the next person I see there which results in, sometimes, a lot of people hired. If you don't like it leave my farm and get hired at some one elses but don't tell me how many people to hire on my farm.

Nazza
Jan 26 2010, 08:25 AM
Is this the thread where we are to now start discussing the practise of hiring to plow on layered farms?

I am not so concerned about stopping the hiring to endless plow...but it was handy having the thread open before to send people to learn about how to layer crops....I hire people to harvest and some of them are amazed about my new crops underneath and I would like to still be able to send them to the forum for distinct instructions on how to do this.

GrannyMo
Jan 26 2010, 12:43 PM
Is this the thread where we are to now start discussing the practise of hiring to plow on layered farms?

I am not so concerned about stopping the hiring to endless plow...but it was handy having the thread open before to send people to learn about how to layer crops....I hire people to harvest and some of them are amazed about my new crops underneath and I would like to still be able to send them to the forum for distinct instructions on how to do this.

You still can. The original how-to thread hasn't been vaporized, just closed. A search on "unofficial layering" or "layering technique" will find it fairly quickly. Copy the URL when you find it, paste it into a blank notepad document or similar, save the document on your desktop, and you'll have it for as long as you want to refer to it.

Added: delete the words at the end of the URL (they'll be whatever words you searched on) back to the post number, that's all you really need.

Charo
Jan 26 2010, 03:30 PM
Thanks for opening a discussion thread.

I still wish we had an option to fire people. I sincerely doubt the amount of people hiring just to fire is so significant that the rest of the population should be held hostage to slow, disrespectful or verbally abusive players.

Special Agent Mandii
Jan 26 2010, 09:10 PM
I don't enjoy the abuse I receive for telling people that I won't hire them to plough - especially when I have a layered farm. I try to tell them that I don't see the use in it as it won't work, and even link them to the thread about layered farms, but they continue to abuse me. There are so many players on my ignore list that it's actually quite annoying. I'm always a very placid farmer; I do as I'm told, make idle conversation and politely request to plough afterwards - sometimes I refuse an offer to plough as I'm feeling particularly charitable and want the person I'm working with to get the exp from ploughing. I don't particularly need it, after all, it's just a nice little thing to fill my spare time. I can't understand some peoples' obsession with ploughing. It's just EXP, and there's no need to be rude over it. :rolleyes:

I personally usually only ever try to hire two to three people to harvest at my farm; however, when I hire people and don't get a response quickly [within thirty seconds to one minute], I go and hire the next person in the marketplace. As a result, people have responded very late to my hire requests, come to my farm when there is very little work left, and proceeded to abuse me and accuse me of over-hiring for entertainment. I don't mind that there isn't a fire button, but I'm very thankful that there's an ignore button. I don't have the patience to deal with people who won't listen when I attempt to reason with them an offer an explanation. I'm kind enough to bother explaining myself to rude employees - they should learn to be kind enough to bother to listen to my explanation.

I also don't like people who believe that they have the right to harvest and plow my whole farm on their own. I know that a lot of my farm is taken up by decorative structures, trees, flowers and fencing, but I also know that there are still plenty of crops to harvest, especially as I tend to plant crops which have high monetary returns. Occasionally I've hired one person when I've felt like spoiling them or when I've only been satisfied with the behaviour of one person in the marketplace, and upon telling them that they have the whole harvest to themselves, have received such comments as "I like to work alone." or "I would have left if you had hired someone else." Well, with an attitude like that, I want them to leave. I've often gone back to the marketplace and hired another person anyway [yes, out of spite] to show them that it's a game that involves working for things and that they can't have things handed to them on a silver platter. The people in the marketplace who post such comments as "I work ALONE!" also find themselves on my ignore list. It's just selfish. They really need to go back to primary school and listen to their teachers when they're being told about the benefits of sharing.

If people just approached the Internet with a sense of etiquette and a reminder that the people on the other side of the screen are real people, this whole "Internetz r srs bsns" attitude would be dropped altogether, and I for one would be very happy. I don't need to cop this from rude employees; I could have just as easily hired somebody else entirely to do my work, and instead they complain that there isn't much left when they gave me the impression that they were AFK, or that I won't let them plow when I have a layered farm or am rearranging my plots.

Charo
Jan 26 2010, 10:44 PM
hear, hear. I deliberately do not hire anyone that has a specific list of what they will plow, or that they work alone. I will hire someone else out of spite if I do it by accident.

The begging is terrible. I saw a girl say "this is why I play FarmVille" in the market - the process of hiring, the begging, etc. is not very fun.

Primetime Borrego
Jan 26 2010, 11:20 PM
ELLS, your top post sounds like a lawyer puked all over it, I got bored of reading it, good luck getting your message across

Tyler45
Jan 26 2010, 11:22 PM
ELLS, your top post sounds like a lawyer puked all over it, I got bored of reading it, good luck getting your message across

She isn't trying to get a message across. This is a place where other members can talk about Hiring and Hiring Practices.

Special Agent Mandii
Jan 26 2010, 11:47 PM
ELLS, your top post sounds like a lawyer puked all over it, I got bored of reading it, good luck getting your message across

It's obvious that you didn't read it, even if you hadn't stated "I got bored of reading it", because if you'd actually bothered to read it you'd notice how unnecessary your comment is.

Tony D
Jan 27 2010, 01:33 AM
ELLS, your top post sounds like a lawyer puked all over it, I got bored of reading it, good luck getting your message across1) shouldn't that be "reads" like rather than "sounds" like ?

2) Forgive me if I'm wrong but I suspect there is a little hostility in your posts - If you have a grievance why not just air it ?

Pirate Kel
Jan 27 2010, 01:38 AM
yeah tthat post was a little odd and unfitting. Ells statements made perfect sence to me

lindasfarmtown
Jan 27 2010, 08:56 AM
i agree with what people are saying, it is a game so keep it respectful as we don't know who is on the other end. it is a diverse game of all ages, cultures etc and we don't want to role model bad behaviour for the younger players or show players from other countries that we are not respectful.

ElkRiverRancher
Jan 27 2010, 09:20 AM
I've been having some fun, with the hiring process. I now present an employment 'test'. I begin by announcing that I've got crops ready for harvesting, then plots to plow:

Greetings, Farmers. I have 2 farms; I need two employees for harvesting and plowing.

Then, I remind players that they have a very useful 'tool' available to them:

But I present an employment test. Those who do not wish to participate, please click my avatar, and select 'ignore'.

I then remind the marketplace of the 'reward' for participating:

First two correct answers will be offered the employment, both harvesting and plowing


Then, I present my 'test'. The test varies, and is based on the crop that is ready. For example, overnight I usually plant squash. My 'squash' test is a riddle:

Test: Riddle: Which FarmTown crop would be best, for killing a cockroach?


When the crop is grapes and wheat, the question is based on wine and bread, taken from the Fitzgerald translation of the Rubiayat of Omar Khayyam:

Test: Fill in the blanks: "A _ _ _ of _ _ _ _, a _ _ _ _ of _ _ _ _ _, and thou beside me, singing in the wilderness; and wilderness is paradise, now ..."


If the crop is only grapes, the 'test' is simple math -

The test: My farms yield 525 dry quarts of grapes. There are 105 dry quarts in every barrel. Each barrel yields 2 gallons of wine. How many gallons will my farms yield?

Sometimes, with grapes, the test is on American Literature:

Test: Who is the author of 'The Cask of the Amontillado'?

If the pomegranate trees are ready to pick, the test question is based on Greek Mythology:

Test: What fruit did Persephone consume, when she was being held captive by Hades in his Underworld Kingdom?

I've had great fun with some of the answers. When I get any 'irritated' players complaining that they did not 'come here to be in school', I just gently remind them that this is a game, and the developers of the game provided them with a wonderful tool, called the IGNORE button - and I recommend they employ that tool, posthaste! lol!

The hired hands are always thanked, when they arrive on the farm, for their participation in the employment test, and the usual result of the test is to stimulate a conversation with fellow FT players. I've met some very interesting people, via the 'test' and this game.

I wonder, does anyone else have any interesting ways to hire employees?

pg tips
Jan 27 2010, 09:30 AM
hows that fun id have just walked and thought ok ill just be polite and wait for hiring if im hiring I announce I have work and hire the firtst one to say yes please pg

LoreneC
Jan 27 2010, 09:37 AM
"different strokes for different folks"

Not something I would enjoy but it sounds like you are finding people who do.:)

Snappy Dungarees
Jan 27 2010, 10:37 AM
My only concern about that is when I go into the MP to look for workers I want people who are paying attention to what I'm asking for and what I'm offering. They can't do that playing games. If I see someone doing it, I leave and find another market.

~Farmer Tom~
Jan 27 2010, 10:39 AM
No offense, but shouldnt this thread be moved to the hiring practices sticky thingy at the top? I thought talking bout hiring was considered taboo now:confused:



Personally, I like hiring the ladies:o

Little Wing
Jan 27 2010, 10:47 AM
I don't see anything wrong with a fun challenge as long as the hirees in the MP understand that it's a game. Otherwise as you say, hit the ignore button.

However, the following happened to me, and it was definitely wrong:

A few weeks ago I was in the MP and was hired for harvesting. The farmer in question turned out to be a complete twit, IMO. First, he PM'd me and asked me to meet him at his farm, claiming he had tons of three-day crops and he was having trouble hiring from the MP. Not a problem, I'm okay with meeting a farmer even though sometimes those invites turn out to be another way to rid the MP of competition.

So I went to his farm. He met me there and yes, his farm was loaded. He asked me to wait while his other workers showed up, and he would hire all of us at once. Okay, not a problem at all. In a few minutes, two others showed up. We all waited for the longest time, while this guy stood there without a word.

Finally, he instructed us to line up at a center fence and wait for him. Okay, strange, but what the heck. We lined up. More silence (at this point I had been on this guy's farm for over five minutes, waiting). Then he told us before he could hire us, he would have to know how many coins we already had, and what our EXP-point number was. Only then would he hire us...

I asked him why in the world he would want to know something I feel is pretty personal, that I felt uncomfortable giving out that kind of info. He replied that it was his farm, his rules, and that anyone who refused would have to leave. I then told him he was ridiculous, and left.

Yes, I could have lied to him, given him any bogus number. But at that point I figured I was dealing with a whack-doodle with a control fetish. Better to get out of it all, and leave.

I like to harvest and play this game, same as anyone else. I don't mind the little hiring games often found in the MP, as long as it's not invasive, rude, condescending or the like. But I refuse to participate in a little power/control play just so that some whack-doodle can feel like a Master of the Universe.

ElkRiverRancher, your method of hiring sounds harmless and if I ever meet you in the MP I might give it a go if you offer it. But I am proceeding with caution these days especially when someone wants to know my financial worth. What's next, asking me what color thong I wear???

Oop. TMI!

Little Wing

ElkRiverRancher
Jan 27 2010, 11:19 AM
..." I want people who are paying attention to what I'm asking for and what I'm offering. They can't do that playing games ...'

That's confusing, to me, SD ... I am under the impression that 'Farmtown' is a game .... soooo, 'playing games' is what all participants are doing, no? Happily, this game can be played in a number of ways.
As it happens, my employment test is an interesting way, IMHO, to see who is paying attention. Plus, with the use of the ignore button, it's also easy to 'eliminate' me from your own 'hiring method'. I also find the employment test a way to see if there are any individuals who remember anything from their school years ("Things I would have learned in school, if only I'd been paying attention ....").

ElkRiverRancher
Jan 27 2010, 11:32 AM
I don't see anything wrong with a fun challenge as long as the hirees in the MP understand that it's a game. Otherwise as you say, hit the ignore button.

Any farmers at the marketplace who don't understand that it's a game are confusing 'Farmtown' with real farming ... something that just strikes me as absurd ...

However, the following happened to me, and it was definitely wrong:((review LW's experience!) I refuse to participate in a little power/control play just so that some whack-doodle can feel like a Master of the Universe.

Oh, I am sooo with you, LW - this individual was beyond the pale - and sounds a bit like a Nazi SS personality, IMHO. I would have run like a frightened bunny - but here's something that might not have occurred to you ... anyone at the marketplace can find out your level, and your xp, just by visiting your farm (they need no invitation, you understand ... just clicking the player's avatar, one can visit the player's farm[s]). I don't confuse someone asking me how much 'coin' I have at FT with asking me how much 'coin' I have, in 'real' life! lol That said, I can just imagine what this 'individual' was doing, whilst he was lining up all his potential victims! lol


ElkRiverRancher, your method of hiring sounds harmless and if I ever meet you in the MP I might give it a go if you offer it. But I am proceeding with caution these days especially when someone wants to know my financial worth. What's next, asking me what color thong I wear???

Oop. TMI!

Little Wing

I find the employment test stimulates conversation ... and IMHO, this game was developed with a 'chat' window for just that purpose. Otherwise, why have the potential to have 'conversations', at all? Farmville is the place for those 'players' who don't wish to communicate with other players, no?

Well, speaking of employment, etc., I have two farms, ready to reap and plow. TTFN!

GrannyMo
Jan 27 2010, 11:39 AM
That's confusing, to me, SD ... I am under the impression that 'Farmtown' is a game .... soooo, 'playing games' is what all participants are doing, no? Happily, this game can be played in a number of ways.
As it happens, my employment test is an interesting way, IMHO, to see who is paying attention. Plus, with the use of the ignore button, it's also easy to 'eliminate' me from your own 'hiring method'. I also find the employment test a way to see if there are any individuals who remember anything from their school years ("Things I would have learned in school, if only I'd been paying attention ....").

To each his/her own, Elk. More power to you. But you DO realize that you can't exactly commandeer a marketplace for your hiring test don't you? Seeing that people pop in all the time, regardless of your announcement to put you on ignore.

Personally, I prefer not to jump through hoops to get a harvest/plow job. After all, this IS just a game. Being asked to play another one within it is redundant.

If you're ever curious as to how much trivia I've retained from my school days, feel free to PM me with a pop quiz. But if we encounter each other at the MP I'll probably not bother putting you on ignore, just pop out to another MP while you quiz whoever has the patience to put up with it (bless their hearts).

Little Wing
Jan 27 2010, 11:46 AM
). I don't confuse someone asking me how much 'coin' I have at FT with asking me how much 'coin' I have, in 'real' life! lol That said, I can just imagine what this 'individual' was doing, whilst he was lining up all his potential victims! lol

<g> Oh, I knew he wanted the total of my FT coinage, most likely because he's just plain nosy. That was the 'personal info' I was talking about. Sure, anyone can click on my little avatar and find out my level and points, no big secret nor do I care if they have that info. But my FT money is not up for discussion. Heck, even my neighbors - who know this info thanks to the 'neighbors link'- would not chat me up in front of other unfamiliar FT-ers and ask me that kind of thing!

It's a fun game and thanks to the inventiveness of all who play Farm Town, additional layers of fun are added daily. Nothing wrong with any of it, 'tis all good. :)

Little Wing

Robin47
Jan 27 2010, 12:23 PM
To each his/her own, Elk. More power to you. But you DO realize that you can't exactly commandeer a marketplace for your hiring test don't you? Seeing that people pop in all the time, regardless of your announcement to put you on ignore.

Personally, I prefer not to jump through hoops to get a harvest/plow job. After all, this IS just a game. Being asked to play another one within it is redundant.

If you're ever curious as to how much trivia I've retained from my school days, feel free to PM me with a pop quiz. But if we encounter each other at the MP I'll probably not bother putting you on ignore, just pop out to another MP while you quiz whoever has the patience to put up with it (bless their hearts).
I agree. Most people aren't in the MP for test period. Frankly I graduated a long time ago and just want to relax and "play a game" on my computer before starting my housework for the day. And..TBH, I haven't even heard of some of the stuff you are asking about. Some of it sounds a little religious, which, if what I have heard about FT is true, most people are from everywhere in the world, of all different religions so they probably won't get hired. And, in the real world, if that's what we are basing on, wouldn't that also be discrimination on the basis of religion? :0)

(BTW, in case you hadn't figured it out yet, I am messing with you on the last point. Please don't take it seriously and bash me..as this IS just a game, right>?)

ElkRiverRancher
Jan 27 2010, 01:01 PM
To each his/her own, Elk. More power to you. But you DO realize that you can't exactly commandeer a marketplace for your hiring test don't you?

Commandeer? Hardly .... and for commandeering, you really can't 'beat' the players who use both avatar names that take up more than 'one line' (I've seen as much as three, regularly), and then use one line for each letter:

P
L
O
W
I
N
G

or for 'begging':

hire me PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
hire me PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
hire me PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
hire me PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ


So, I think writing a single sentence, then following it with the 'riddle', is hardly commandeering.

Personally, I prefer not to jump through hoops to get a harvest/plow job. After all, this IS just a game. Being asked to play another one within it is redundant.

If you're ever curious as to how much trivia I've retained from my school days, feel free to PM me with a pop quiz. But if we encounter each other at the MP I'll probably not bother putting you on ignore, just pop out to another MP while you quiz whoever has the patience to put up with it (bless their hearts).

Well, just a 'click and ignore' seems easier to me, but as you say, to each, their own.

Robin47
Jan 27 2010, 01:48 PM
Oh wait! What about the ones that do those AND type in all caps AND do what you said with the multiples of the same letter for like twenty time so that it takes up the whole chat box and when you try to scroll past it, they keep it up. I have tried to use the ignore feature, but when you didn't catch the name the first time and they keep doing it so that the scroll won't work, it's kinda hard to ignore them.
AND the ones that jump in front of you..I mean RIGHT in front of you so that your avatar is hidden either behind or IN theirs as if they think that makes them more appealing to a prospective boss.

Nadine
Jan 27 2010, 02:12 PM
*stumbles in & laughs her *ahem* butt off*

~Farmer Tom~
Jan 27 2010, 02:25 PM
*stumbles in & laughs her *ahem* butt off*

He he he, your butt jiggles when you laugh it off:p

Nadine
Jan 27 2010, 02:37 PM
He he he, your butt jiggles when you laugh it off:p


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~Farmer Tom~
Jan 27 2010, 02:43 PM
just for you!:D
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lmao, babys got back!

JAS0643
Jan 27 2010, 04:45 PM
I've been having some fun, with the hiring process. I now present an employment 'test'. I begin by announcing that I've got crops ready for harvesting, then plots to plow:



Yes this is a game but this to me is just manipulative. I don't understand why people have to play such games with others in the game. I play this GAME to farm not to answer trivia questions and I have a feeling that you have a hard time finding workers.


That's confusing, to me, SD ... I am under the impression that 'Farmtown' is a game .... soooo, 'playing games' is what all participants are doing, no? Happily, this game can be played in a number of ways.
As it happens, my employment test is an interesting way, IMHO, to see who is paying attention. Plus, with the use of the ignore button, it's also easy to 'eliminate' me from your own 'hiring method'. I also find the employment test a way to see if there are any individuals who remember anything from their school years ("Things I would have learned in school, if only I'd been paying attention ....").

Like I said above farm town is a game that I play but I am playing a farming game not a trivia game, if I wanted to answer trivia questions I would play a trivia game. I have a feeling that the other poster doesn't get a lot of workers that way.

Snappy Dungarees
Jan 27 2010, 06:23 PM
That's confusing, to me, SD ... I am under the impression that 'Farmtown' is a game .... soooo, 'playing games' is what all participants are doing, no? Happily, this game can be played in a number of ways.
As it happens, my employment test is an interesting way, IMHO, to see who is paying attention. Plus, with the use of the ignore button, it's also easy to 'eliminate' me from your own 'hiring method'. I also find the employment test a way to see if there are any individuals who remember anything from their school years ("Things I would have learned in school, if only I'd been paying attention ....").

Yes but when I go to the MP to look for someone to work for me I'm wanting someone who knows what exactly I'm offering and isn't going to waste my time by saying yes to working then getting to my farm and saying..oh I don't wanna do this...I didn't realise....which is more often the case when people are playing little games with each other. I don't care for games in the MP at all. I just want to go in, hire someone who pays attention to what I'm actually wanting from them and what I'm offering in return. I'm not going there to socialise or look for work. If people want to work for me I have two stipulations. They respect what I'm asking of them and do the job they've agreed to do. And someone who's happy if I DON'T offer ploughing on that occasion. And not whine when they can't do it because I'm changing my farm around. And while I'd happily ignore you if you're in the same MP as me, as I'm in the MP to look for workers I can't ignore those that are playing your "employment test" as you insist on calling it. Personally I just don't get what's wrong with just asking who wants to do xxxx harvest and the plough (if you're offering) or just leave it if you're not. Most decent workers will reply and will happily work without having to jump through metaphorical hoops just to get it.

melissa15531
Jan 28 2010, 12:10 AM
I can't stand when a person harvests or plows and does half and stops. Also today I hired someone to harvest and plow and they agreed to both then during plowing had the nerve to message me and ask if I was going to help them plow???? i thought that was why I hired them.

silvia8917
Jan 28 2010, 08:44 AM
I don't mind the practice of giving hiring tests, but ElkRiverRancher's questions are just too difficult to me... LOL As a Chinese who's born and grows up in Hong Kong, it's just not really possible for me to know so much about American literature... Just like I'm not going to ask "Which Emperor ordered the unification of writing characters in China?", even though it's pretty common knowledge in the place where I live. (The answer is Qin Shi Huang, by the way.) Even if I did ask, I doubt I was ever going to receive an answer. I'm not really motivated to google something like that just for a job in a game, either, especially when somebody else is probably hired already during the time when I do my research...

As a matter of fact I used to hand out hiring tests too, but it was usually a mathematics question, so basically no information research is required. (And it's not stuff like "what is the square root of 45905 times the sum of 1298 and 4333 minus sin80", just simple stuff like "1+5*9") BUT then one day...

I gave out a math question, say, 1+5*9, by saying "I'll hire the first person who answers 1+5*9=? correctly".
I got a couple of answers saying 54.
I thought, well that's incorrect, but since nobody did get it correctly, so I hired the first person who answered anyway.
We went to my farm, and I started a chat by saying "the correct answer is 46 because in mathematics you should do multiplication and division before addition and subtraction".
And the person I hired replied, "Oh I never knew that. Never taught this at school."
CULTURAL SHOCK!!! In Hong Kong, "multiplication and division first, addition and subtraction later" is something that's taught in primary schools...

After this incident, I realize that handing out hiring test doesn't really work.
FarmTown is an international game. If even mathematics is not universal, I don't know what's a fair hiring test. LOL

By the way, once I also got someone who replied "I played this game for fun, not for doing mathematics". Well, to each their own, but to me, being challenged by single-digit multiplication is pretty lame, unless you are born or hit with some special conditions. And that's actually quite a rude response, too.


After I gave up handing out tests, each time I need to hire someone from the marketplace I simply ask, "Who wants to harvest?" "Who wants to plow?" "I need a person to FIRST harvest my trees and THEN plow. Anyone?" Then I hire the first 1-2 person who responds, depending on the size of the job.

Sometimes it still amazes me that I can get NO response even with such direct questions/offers, though. I'd think, are they not interested in the work I have to offer? (But that not even ONE person shows up is still quite unbelievable) Even if your usual strategy is waiting quietly, it's still pretty clear that under THIS circumstance you have to actually respond to get a job.

If I get no response, I just hit "go home" and go to another marketplace. I don't hire people who are mute because I'm afraid they may not actually be playing at that moment.

The people I hire with this strategy are all satisfactory workers so far, so I'm sticking to it. :)

Bellegarath
Jan 29 2010, 12:55 AM
I'm trying to hire someone to plow my fields - just 3 plots. I keep going to the marketplace and clicking on someone & according to the directions, they're supposed to let me know if they will do it. Where am I supposed to be getting this notification? How do they get to my farm? Do I need to have machinery for them to work for me (because I don't, I just have the hand tools)? Thanks for the help!

amberdh
Jan 29 2010, 01:27 AM
I'm trying to hire someone to plow my fields - just 3 plots. I keep going to the marketplace and clicking on someone & according to the directions, they're supposed to let me know if they will do it. Where am I supposed to be getting this notification? How do they get to my farm? Do I need to have machinery for them to work for me (because I don't, I just have the hand tools)? Thanks for the help!

Hi there. Here is a link that will take you too a thread that will explain everything about plowing. :)

http://www.slashkey.com/forum/showthread.php?t=144618

elate
Jan 29 2010, 02:02 AM
Just i want to know in which season the hiring begans during the rich
cultivation or at theharvesting time? Can someone clarify this...

ElkRiverRancher
Jan 29 2010, 02:30 AM
I play this GAME to farm not to answer trivia questions and I have a feeling that you have a hard time finding workers.

No, Jas, I have not had what I would consider to be any trouble finding employees - and I do have some interactive fun with some of the answers, whether they're correct or incorrect.




Like I said above farm town is a game that I play but I am playing a farming game not a trivia game, if I wanted to answer trivia questions I would play a trivia game. I have a feeling that the other poster doesn't get a lot of workers that way.

Yup, it is a farming game, which is why my questions are always based on the crop that will be harvested. Happily, players at the MP are just as free to pay me no attention as I am free to pay the beggers no attention.

ElkRiverRancher
Jan 29 2010, 02:55 AM
it's just not really possible for me to know so much about American literature... Just like I'm not going to ask "Which Emperor ordered the unification of writing characters in China?", even though it's pretty common knowledge in the place where I live. (The answer is Qin Shi Huang, by the way.)

Well, I agree, some questions might not be easily answered by those who are unfamiliar with American or English literature. But the questions I choose always relate to the crop I have. I would not ask, for example, 'How many Colonies were there, when what became the United States fought for independence from Great Britain?', because I cannot correlate the answer with any possible Farmtown crop. I would not ask, 'Who is the author of 'The Shining'', although many know it is Stephen King. I would ask 'Who wrote 'The Grapes of Wrath', if my current crop is grapes. (It was Steinbeck).

As a matter of fact I used to hand out hiring tests too, but it was usually a mathematics question, so basically no information research is required. (And it's not stuff like "what is the square root of 45905 times the sum of 1298 and 4333 minus sin80", just simple stuff like "1+5*9") BUT then one day...

I gave out a math question, say, 1+5*9, by saying "I'll hire the first person who answers 1+5*9=? correctly".
I got a couple of answers saying 54.
I thought, well that's incorrect, but since nobody did get it correctly, so I hired the first person who answered anyway.
We went to my farm, and I started a chat by saying "the correct answer is 46 because in mathematics you should do multiplication and division before addition and subtraction".
And the person I hired replied, "Oh I never knew that. Never taught this at school."
CULTURAL SHOCK!!! In Hong Kong, "multiplication and division first, addition and subtraction later" is something that's taught in primary schools...

Here in the States, the arithmetic question would have been written:
1 + (5x9) = ? The brackets are used to indicate the separation of the figures. Without the brackets, the arithmetic would be done 'in order' of appearance, which is why you got answers of 54. Also, in the States, the symbol for multiplication is 'x', not '*'.




By the way, once I also got someone who replied "I played this game for fun, not for doing mathematics". Well, to each their own, but to me, being challenged by single-digit multiplication is pretty lame, unless you are born or hit with some special conditions. And that's actually quite a rude response, too.

Well, I certainly have gotten similar replies, Silvia - from players who resent having to think for a moment, instead of beg. I just gently remind them that they have at their disposal an excellent tool, called the 'ignore' button, and encourage them to employ it!

The people I hire with this strategy are all satisfactory workers so far, so I'm sticking to it. :)

I find all my employees wind up wanting to be buddies, so I imagine the reality is, those who enjoy a bit more of a challenge than, 'Who wants to harvest grapes', try to answer the employment quiz. Those who consider asking for a correct response to a quiz as a hiring tool being expected to 'jump through hoops' ignore my employment quiz. I'm pretty sure, with the tremendous number of folks playing this game, there is room at the marketplace for all.

Pirate Kel
Jan 29 2010, 02:59 AM
its been a while, but I have asked trivia questions to find a worker... I have even told a joke and hired the first one to say haha. They way I see it, if someone wants to do something like that to find a worker, then there shouldnt be anything keeping them from it. So long as they are being well behaved :p

Ofla's Rampage
Jan 29 2010, 03:08 AM
I've seen a few (only a few) asking if workers want to plant for them? How does this work? I've never seen a feature for hiring to plant.

ElkRiverRancher
Jan 29 2010, 03:12 AM
Yes but when I go to the MP to look for someone to work for me I'm wanting someone who knows what exactly I'm offering and isn't going to waste my time by saying yes to working then getting to my farm and saying..oh I don't wanna do this...I didn't realise....which is more often the case when people are playing little games with each other.

I've actually never had anyone come to my ranch or maze, and then say, 'I don't wanna do this ...' and leave. I have, on occasion, had workers go 'poof', but this is usually after they've experienced some server problem. I have myself accidentally gone 'poof', by inadvertently hitting one of the ads that border the game, when using the 'click and drag' to move my view of the farm upon which I'm working, so I imagine this has happened to others, as well.

I'd happily ignore you if you're in the same MP as me, as I'm in the MP to look for workers I can't ignore those that are playing your "employment test" as you insist on calling it.

Hmmm. Well, sure you can, SD. Also, you can hire them before me, if you like! That's the beauty of the game, no? Play it as you like.

Personally I just don't get what's wrong with just asking who wants to do xxxx harvest and the plough (if you're offering) or just leave it if you're not.

Absolutely nothing 'wrong' with that, as far as I can tell, SD. See above, beginning with 'Play it' and ending with ' as you like.'

Pirate Kel
Jan 29 2010, 03:13 AM
I've seen a few (only a few) asking if workers want to plant for them? How does this work? I've never seen a feature for hiring to plant.
they are prob'ly just being obnoxious

clumsy smurf
Jan 29 2010, 07:56 AM
Have had some bad experiences hiring lately. One person thanked me profusely for helping them level up & then left not finishing, Had a couple of nutters too but that's life & I'm building up my buddy list. Had some great times being an employee, met some wonderful people & generally had fun. Personally I would never beg in the market place but I also have a great laugh at their expense. Enjoy P.s hate the people who at least dont say thankyou

GrannyMo
Jan 29 2010, 08:08 AM
I can't stand when a person harvests or plows and does half and stops. Also today I hired someone to harvest and plow and they agreed to both then during plowing had the nerve to message me and ask if I was going to help them plow???? i thought that was why I hired them.

Asking the farmer to help do the plowing is a new one on me. But (especially after a read through this thread) it never ceases to amaze/amuse me what some people come up with.

As for the ones who get halfway through the job and then stop ... cut them some slack. Most of the time it's not intentional. The most common reason is getting timed-out on the server, something they can't do anything about. Or they're having problems with their computer. Best to give them the benefit of the doubt. It takes only a few seconds to hire someone else to finish the job.

GrannyMo
Jan 29 2010, 08:47 AM
I don't hire people who are mute because I'm afraid they may not actually be playing at that moment.



Most of the time if they're mute, they've become fearful that if they say anything about wanting a job they'll be considered "beggers". Try it sometime; send a hire request to someone whose avatar is just standing there looking cute, and see how fast you get a response.

I have a hiring test of my own. If they're able to use a mouse, and can demonstrate that by clicking to accept my hiring request, the job is theirs. I don't care what they say or don't say in the MP. And if the job doesn't work out (i.e., they leave the farm for whatever reason) I go hire someone else.

The crops get harvested and the fields plowed regardless of who does them.

silvia8917
Jan 29 2010, 08:58 AM
Here in the States, the arithmetic question would have been written:
1 + (5x9) = ? The brackets are used to indicate the separation of the figures. Without the brackets, the arithmetic would be done 'in order' of appearance, which is why you got answers of 54. Also, in the States, the symbol for multiplication is 'x', not '*'.

In Hong Kong, the brackets are used to indicate when the "multiplication and division first" rule does not apply. 9*6+1=55, when 9*(6+1)=63. It can also be used to indicate multiplication when no other mathematical sign is found between the numbers, e.g. (9)(6+1)=63.

We actually use "x" here, too. Just that I'm used to type * on the keyboard. I am just bugged by the fact that the "x" on keyboard is intended as an alphabet instead of the multiplication sign. LOL Also you type * to do multiplication in the Windows software e.g. Calculator, MS Excel etc..


I find all my employees wind up wanting to be buddies, so I imagine the reality is, those who enjoy a bit more of a challenge than, 'Who wants to harvest grapes', try to answer the employment quiz. Those who consider asking for a correct response to a quiz as a hiring tool being expected to 'jump through hoops' ignore my employment quiz. I'm pretty sure, with the tremendous number of folks playing this game, there is room at the marketplace for all.

Yep I got more buddying requests when I handed out hiring tests too. Now I've changed my practice they've become so rare that I get more buddying requests just standing in the market waiting to be hired. LOL But I guess that's more reason for me to ask direct questions, because I never check my buddy list when I have to hire, even though I accept every buddying request :o. I seldom hire neighbours too, but I don't see them online often anyway.

silvia8917
Jan 29 2010, 09:18 AM
Most of the time if they're mute, they've become fearful that if they say anything about wanting a job they'll be considered "beggers". Try it sometime; send a hire request to someone whose avatar is just standing there looking cute, and see how fast you get a response.

I have a hiring test of my own. If they're able to use a mouse, and can demonstrate that by clicking to accept my hiring request, the job is theirs. I don't care what they say or don't say in the MP. And if the job doesn't work out (i.e., they leave the farm for whatever reason) I go hire someone else.

The crops get harvested and the fields plowed regardless of who does them.

I don't really see why they will become fearful to say even one sentence. If even saying one sentence / responding to a question posted by another player could be considered begging, the chat function would be pretty useless. I don't mind employees leaving the work in the middle, either; I'm just of the mind that work is available to people who seek them appropriately. There're surely people who find silently waiting agreeable, but they're not the type of workers I prefer.

ElkRiverRancher
Jan 29 2010, 12:26 PM
There're surely people who find silently waiting agreeable, but they're not the type of workers I prefer.

I agree, Silvia ... the game is not much fun with non-communicative players. That style suits Farmville better, I think! lol Still, I know that many players don't type, so I try not to be bothered if folks don't really chat much, once they're hired.

What will get someone knocked off my buddy list is sending me one of those 'chain' note messages, 'send this note to everyone on your buddy list, and FT will give you a million coins' nonsense, or the 'ignore the player (fill in name), they will infect your pc with a virus!!!' Any player that stupid is not a player I want to be on my farm! lol

GrannyMo
Jan 29 2010, 01:19 PM
I agree, Silvia ... the game is not much fun with non-communicative players. That style suits Farmville better, I think! lol Still, I know that many players don't type, so I try not to be bothered if folks don't really chat much, once they're hired.

Well, that's nice of you. Trying not to be bothered, I mean.

But consider this: For many players, it's rather difficult to "chat" while also doing the job you hired them to do. Some -- l'm one -- find it easier to harvest/plow in full-screen. Chat's disabled there. I do pop out of full-screen when the job is done, thank the farmer, and sometimes even comment on something I like about their farm. But chatting away while I'm also trying to a) get their harvesting/plowing done and b) watch to make sure I'm not getting timed-out (and attempting a workaround if that happens) doesn't leave a whole lot of room for small talk.

That particular style of "non-communication" doesn't suit FV, either, because there's NO real-time social interaction there whatsoever. They may both be farm games, but on that aspect of game play you're attempting to compare apples to oranges. Or making huge assumptions about why some hired workers don't chat much. Or both.

If it's conversation you want, try an Inn; in fact, I'm pretty sure any Inn you enter would be very entertained by those trivia quizzes.

What will get someone knocked off my buddy list is sending me one of those 'chain' note messages, 'send this note to everyone on your buddy list, and FT will give you a million coins' nonsense, or the 'ignore the player (fill in name), they will infect your pc with a virus!!!' Any player that stupid is not a player I want to be on my farm! lol

I don't suppose you could just ignore the chain messages? Or better yet, reply back (since you're an advocate of communication) and nicely explain to the buddy or neighbor what these really are? For pete's sake, not everyone is hoax-savvy and it doesn't mean they're stupid.

~Farmer Tom~
Jan 29 2010, 02:29 PM
sometimes? I hire two people instead of just one:o

silvia8917
Jan 29 2010, 09:41 PM
Well, that's nice of you. Trying not to be bothered, I mean.

But consider this: For many players, it's rather difficult to "chat" while also doing the job you hired them to do. Some -- l'm one -- find it easier to harvest/plow in full-screen. Chat's disabled there. I do pop out of full-screen when the job is done, thank the farmer, and sometimes even comment on something I like about their farm. But chatting away while I'm also trying to a) get their harvesting/plowing done and b) watch to make sure I'm not getting timed-out (and attempting a workaround if that happens) doesn't leave a whole lot of room for small talk.

That particular style of "non-communication" doesn't suit FV, either, because there's NO real-time social interaction there whatsoever. They may both be farm games, but on that aspect of game play you're attempting to compare apples to oranges. Or making huge assumptions about why some hired workers don't chat much. Or both.

If it's conversation you want, try an Inn; in fact, I'm pretty sure any Inn you enter would be very entertained by those trivia quizzes.

I don't suppose you could just ignore the chain messages? Or better yet, reply back (since you're an advocate of communication) and nicely explain to the buddy or neighbor what these really are? For pete's sake, not everyone is hoax-savvy and it doesn't mean they're stupid.

Am I an "advocate of communication" just because I demand one reply before hiring? As far as I can remember, we're just talking about things before we hire. The chatting part is merely an observed phenomenon that people replying to hiring quizzes are usually more chatty.

And it's not conversation I want, actually. I just want to make sure that I hire someone who's really looking for work, and will quickly reply to my request. I don't find waiting for a reply interesting, though it may be viewed differently by others.

They can totally just answer my one question, get hired, go to my farm and immediately go full-screen. Finishing the job and leaving before saying "thank you" is a bit rude, but then I can't possibly control that, so I never mind.

Actually there's no way to control what a farmer does AFTER the hiring request, be it chatty, mute, going full-screen, neglecting trees, snatching work, or leaving the work in the middle. The ignore button is the most that we can do. So discussing the preference AFTER hiring is pretty futile.

But there are more choices we can make BEFORE hiring. Randomly picking just anybody is a choice, not picking people who don't reply to direct questions is a choice, hiring people who are proactive enough to answer "trivia quizzes" is another choice. There are different types of employees and different types of employers. That's all.

By the way, I reply people who send me chain messages with something like "now you've sent the message do you get what you've been promised?" I never get any answer back. LOL

ElkRiverRancher
Jan 30 2010, 02:01 AM
chatting away while I'm also trying to a) get their harvesting/plowing done and b) watch to make sure I'm not getting timed-out (and attempting a workaround if that happens) doesn't leave a whole lot of room for small talk.

Yes, I suppose for some, it is a real challenge to actually stop for a moment and reply to an inquiry or comment by the hiring farmer. Happily, for those, being in a hurry to get the job done, and 'get out of there', is certainly one way to play the game; no doubt there are hiring farmers out there who just want the job done as fast as possible.

If it's conversation you want, try an Inn; in fact, I'm pretty sure any Inn you enter would be very entertained by those trivia quizzes.

I frequent the inn, but not for hiring, only for camaraderie. If you don't mind (and even if you do ... ;)), I'll have conversation where, and when, I choose. Those at the marketplace who care to converse, will - those who do not, won't. Seems simple enough, to me - although I'll allow that for some, it might be a difficult concept to grasp: that some players might enjoy the interaction of a hiring process that includes communicating beyond, 'Hire me, hire me, hire me', or beyond just standing around waiting to be selected. For those so inclined, there is always the 'ignore' option.

I don't suppose you could just ignore the chain messages? Or better yet, reply back (since you're an advocate of communication) and nicely explain to the buddy or neighbor what these really are? For pete's sake, not everyone is hoax-savvy and it doesn't mean they're stupid.

You can suppose whatever you choose, but no, I don't ignore the 'chain' messages. I reply to the sender, advising them that such 'chain' messages have a specific purpose, by their creators - that purpose is to overwhelm, as often as possible, the FT server, just as it is the same intent when such creators 'spam' your email. I advise such 'hoax-naive' players that when they have any doubts about the authenticity of messages received, they need only visit the forums, for advice. It might not be stupidity, to 'believe' that FT is going to give you $500,000 'cash' and advance you automatically to level 60 if you 'send this message to everyone on your buddy list'; but, to me, it certainly does suggest a lack of ..... good sense. It's my prerogative to remove 'buddies' lacking what I consider 'good sense', with or without an explanation, no?

causingchaos
Jan 30 2010, 10:09 AM
I'm one of those farmers that just wants the job done. I don't even go back to my farm now until a little later in the day usually after I hire someone. I don't feel any need to stand around and watch what they are doing and I don't have any desire to chat with people. I just want the work done. If someone is upset because I'm not chatting with them on my farm they can give up their crop profit or experience points and go elsewhere to be hired.

medixgrad
Jan 30 2010, 04:56 PM
What I am seeing alot lately is someone asking "If you want a job stand by me" or "If you want a job say my name" and the whole MP "runs over to the hirer. If my avatar was real it would be trampled to death.

I stay put right where I am and I stay quiet. This usually gets me the job.

TecopaCrystal
Jan 30 2010, 06:06 PM
I just enjoy playing Farm Town... I go to the Market Place to get jobs to harvest or plow... My computer is slow at times... but that's ok... I just do what I can and am learning... It is fun...

Sure don't like when people get cranky or ugly... no need for that...

Enjoy!!!:D

Pirate Kel
Jan 30 2010, 06:37 PM
its more likely to get hired of you arent begging.... the ones who beg constantly dont even see the times when people are looking for employees so the end up missing out lol

BirdSalad
Jan 30 2010, 10:22 PM
[QUOTE=JAS0643;3110366]Yes this is a game but this to me is just manipulative. I don't understand why people have to play such games with others in the game. I play this GAME to farm not to answer trivia questions and I have a feeling that you have a hard time finding workers.


See, that's what makes it fun to play this game - everyone can find their own level of entertainment and amusement.

I would absolutely leap to find a riddle job or take a quiz in order to get hired. I find the people that pose those quizzes and riddles LOVE to chat while I work, and I enjoy the chatting as well. I have made good friends with people, even becoming neighbors with them, because of fun chats after answering a riddle in the MP.

Isn't it wonderful that we have the option to ignore (via button or just not responding) anyone who we don't appreciate?

I am gld the devs put the chat feature in, and I play this game and deleted Farmville because it had no interaction with other people.:)

BirdSalad
Jan 30 2010, 10:33 PM
Here in the States, the arithmetic question would have been written:
1 + (5x9) = ? The brackets are used to indicate the separation of the figures. Without the brackets, the arithmetic would be done 'in order' of appearance, which is why you got answers of 54. Also, in the States, the symbol for multiplication is 'x', not '*'.


LOL - well, not really. I am a public school teacher in the US, and rules of operation always state multiply/divide before add/subtract. Actually, it's this order:
brackets
exponents
multiply/divide
add/subtract

and always from left to right inside each order.

Using the symbol "x" is most common when hand printing, but on calculators or computers, you would use "*" to indicate multiplication, since it is a mathematical symbol. A computer wouldn't know what to do with an "x" in the middle of an equation!

And now you have your mini math lesson for the day, just in case you ever get called to play "Are you smarter than a fifth grader"! :D

Pirate Kel
Jan 30 2010, 10:41 PM
people find creative ways to hire people to weed out the obnoxious beggars. At least thats why I did. There have been times that I asked a question and hired the person who responded by saying something like I wish I knew the answer cuz I really need coins. lol

Sheila Buttercup
Jan 31 2010, 07:17 AM
I need to rant...sorry!

I am fed up with...people who come to harvest and don't read instructions given to them....I have a lot of crops under the trees etc....I ask for them to turn the trees off...send them personal messages...send them notes...almost always totally ignored....IT DRIVES ME MAD...I even stipulate what is needed when I hire them, and ask them to ask for work by my name...just to make sure they can read and understand....still ignored.

Then on the other hand....I hate going to work for other farmers who hire a number of workers...who end up falling over one another and getting very little for the pleasure.

Sorry folks ...Rant over

jeanieNGMsfarm
Jan 31 2010, 10:16 AM
I need to rant...sorry!

I am fed up with...people who come to harvest and don't read instructions given to them....I have a lot of crops under the trees etc....I ask for them to turn the trees off...send them personal messages...send them notes...almost always totally ignored....IT DRIVES ME MAD...I even stipulate what is needed when I hire them, and ask them to ask for work by my name...just to make sure they can read and understand....still ignored.

Then on the other hand....I hate going to work for other farmers who hire a number of workers...who end up falling over one another and getting very little for the pleasure.

Sorry folks ...Rant over


at my farm to get to the pineapples you need trees off or you cant get them lol. so i go to the market and ask if anyone has trees off and pick the one who said there are off. i learned the ones who respond with a me me or something along those lines dont do it and show up look around and leave. all they had to do was turn the trees off like asked and they would have wall to wall pineapples harvest and plow lol

medixgrad
Jan 31 2010, 01:43 PM
they are prob'ly just being obnoxious

I've been on a farm harvesting and the farmer asked if us if we wanted to plow afterward. I and my co worker said yes please, then he said to us "Sorry I can't hire plowers ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!" I right then and there without fiishing harvesting. Not because I wanted to plow but because this guy was being so obnoxious about it.

ElkRiverRancher
Jan 31 2010, 02:27 PM
LOL - well, not really. I am a public school teacher in the US, and rules of operation always state multiply/divide before add/subtract. Actually, it's this order:
brackets
exponents
multiply/divide
add/subtract

and always from left to right inside each order.


Okay .... 8 2 x 2 2 = what, exactly? Are you going to do the multiplication, first, or the division, first?
Multiplication, first (2 x 2 = 4), then do the division (8 4 (= 2) 2 = 1)

Division, first (8 2 = 4) x ( 2 2 = 1) = 4

Or, are you going to do the equation in order 'left to right'

8 2 (= 4) x 2 (= 8) 2 (= 4)

Seems to me that if you 'speak' this equation in a sentence stream

"Eight divided by two times two divided by two" the only way the human mind is going to keep up is by doing the equation in the order in which the numbers are received. You're going to calculate as you receive the information, so you're going to 'see' 8 , divide it by 2 and 'register' 4, then multiply 4 by the next number your brain receives (2), register "8", then divide 8 by "2", and get a result of 4, at the end of the stream of numbers.

My first Texas Instruments hand held calculator (and several I still have) use the obelus as the division symbol, and the lower case 'x' as the multiplication symbol.


BTW, my 'simply' arithmetic 'employment test' is a 'word problem':

"My vineyards yield 525 quarts of grapes. There are 105 quarts of grapes in every dry barrel of grapes. Each dry barrel of grapes yields 2 gallons of wine. How many gallons of wine will my vineyards yield?"

So, teach, what would be your answer?

Pirate Kel
Jan 31 2010, 04:53 PM
I've been on a farm harvesting and the farmer asked if us if we wanted to plow afterward. I and my co worker said yes please, then he said to us "Sorry I can't hire plowers ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!" I right then and there without fiishing harvesting. Not because I wanted to plow but because this guy was being so obnoxious about it.
I would have put him on ignore and left too. I loathe people like that.

JAS0643
Jan 31 2010, 07:04 PM
Okay .... 8 2 x 2 2 = what, exactly? Are you going to do the multiplication, first, or the division, first?
Multiplication, first (2 x 2 = 4), then do the division (8 4 (= 2) 2 = 1)

Division, first (8 2 = 4) x ( 2 2 = 1) = 4

Or, are you going to do the equation in order 'left to right'

8 2 (= 4) x 2 (= 8) 2 (= 4)

Seems to me that if you 'speak' this equation in a sentence stream



Unless there are () around number it is division first then multiplication. So it would be 8/2 x 2/2 so you have 4x1, the answering being 4.

silvia8917
Jan 31 2010, 07:16 PM
Okay .... 8 2 x 2 2 = what, exactly? Are you going to do the multiplication, first, or the division, first?
Multiplication, first (2 x 2 = 4), then do the division (8 4 (= 2) 2 = 1)

Division, first (8 2 = 4) x ( 2 2 = 1) = 4

Or, are you going to do the equation in order 'left to right'

8 2 (= 4) x 2 (= 8) 2 (= 4)

Seems to me that if you 'speak' this equation in a sentence stream

"Eight divided by two times two divided by two" the only way the human mind is going to keep up is by doing the equation in the order in which the numbers are received. You're going to calculate as you receive the information, so you're going to 'see' 8 , divide it by 2 and 'register' 4, then multiply 4 by the next number your brain receives (2), register "8", then divide 8 by "2", and get a result of 4, at the end of the stream of numbers.

My first Texas Instruments hand held calculator (and several I still have) use the obelus as the division symbol, and the lower case 'x' as the multiplication symbol.


BTW, my 'simply' arithmetic 'employment test' is a 'word problem':

"My vineyards yield 525 quarts of grapes. There are 105 quarts of grapes in every dry barrel of grapes. Each dry barrel of grapes yields 2 gallons of wine. How many gallons of wine will my vineyards yield?"

So, teach, what would be your answer?

As multiplication and division belong to the same class, just see if there're brackets. If yes, follow the brackets; if no, do it from left to right.

Actually "eight divided by two times two divided by two" is ambiguous? As it is possible that the second "divided" is applied to "eight divided by two times two", or to only the "two" before it. It can be read as: eightdividedbytwo - times - twodividedbytwo. Just a thought.

As for your word problem, 525/125 * 2 = 5*2 = 10. Right? In writing it'd be 525 125 x 2 = 5 x 2 = 10

(Why are we discussing math in this thread anyway. LOL Though math is undoubtedly useful in calculating which crops is the most ludicrous in Farm Town. :D)

Charo
Feb 02 2010, 12:55 AM
The order of priority is multiplication, division, addition, subtraction.

The mnemonic is, "My Dear Aunt Sally."

You don't divide first, you multiply.

8 2 x 2 2 =

8 (2 x 2) 2 =

8 4 2 =

1

Escape
Feb 02 2010, 08:45 AM
Here in the States, the arithmetic question would have been written:
1 + (5x9) = ? The brackets are used to indicate the separation of the figures. Without the brackets, the arithmetic would be done 'in order' of appearance, which is why you got answers of 54. Also, in the States, the symbol for multiplication is 'x', not '*'.

As someone who has lived in the states her whole life, I have to disagree with this entirely. I was taught about order of operations in elementary school (primary school). The only time I would use parentheses would be to say (1+5)9 or (1+5)*9 which is not how it is written. It is written to do the multiplication first. The symbol for multiplication is x is the younger grades, but as soon as you start to get into higher math (like pre-algebra probably) you start using the * symbol when typing it out. When writing, you just use a dot (Or as I put above, just out it next to the parentheses.)

Sorry to get on my high horse about this, it just bothered me.

Rionach
Feb 02 2010, 09:49 AM
quick little question :)
what's with the mathmatical debate?

~Farmer Tom~
Feb 02 2010, 09:53 AM
I dunno:confused: If you want, we can change it to propper english...:D

Escape
Feb 02 2010, 11:56 AM
quick little question :)
what's with the mathmatical debate?

I was just peeved. But that's just me. I should have stated something else to stay on topic as well. I also had to run to class, so I didn't read the entire second half of the thread to see that someone else already called them on it.

I like to hire two people, but I will go with one if i have the time. I prefer to hire neighbors, but will go to the marketplace if I have to. When I have pineapples (like I do now) and I am in the marketplace, I tell people that I am harvesting raspberries (Someone else here does this as well, but I don't remember who). I don't mention anything about plowing. If someone really wants a job, they will reply to me by name. That way I know they are talking to me. Yes. I am picky.

Robin47
Feb 02 2010, 12:06 PM
Wow..this math thread is still going on?

Rionach
Feb 02 2010, 01:45 PM
How do you get hired if you don't have anything to sell at the market? I can't seem to find the way there ha ha my GPS is broken.

I am glad that there was a rant about turning off trees tho because I was hired and didnt see half the crops till I turned them off.
cheers for that!

Escape
Feb 02 2010, 07:37 PM
How do you get hired if you don't have anything to sell at the market? I can't seem to find the way there ha ha my GPS is broken.


Click on the map at the bottom right of your screen. It is listed there :)

silvia8917
Feb 04 2010, 12:20 AM
Sometimes I wonder about the reason for hiring people of one gender, especially everyone can have an avatar of a different gender.

I am a female who has a male avatar. Once I was hired by this female avatar, and throughout my job "she" was saying things like "won't hire girls again", "stupid, lazy and always whining". It makes me somehow baffled - if everyone stops hiring female avatars, just like "herself" (I never did ask if "she" was a girl in reality as it seemed rude), "she" would probably never get hired.:p



Ok, I admit I'm just trying to say something on-topic before I dive into math again.


The order of priority is multiplication, division, addition, subtraction.

The mnemonic is, "My Dear Aunt Sally."

LOL They definitely teach differently here, in Hong Kong.

Yesterday I was checking homework for a primary three students (8-9 years old), and her math textbook definitely says "in calculation which involves both addition and subtraction, do it from left to right if there're no brackets".



By the way, I don't know how high-levelled one should be in order to use "." in multiplication, although I've seen it. From my own experience, I started abondoning "x" and adopted parentheses in multiplication when I was 14-15, not because I was taught to do so, but it was so much more convenient.:p I abadoned the division sign too, and only expressed division in fractions ever since.

fairview farm
Feb 04 2010, 12:39 AM
It is really to bad that so many folks are left without manners : (
I try to do the work I was hired for and thank the farmer when I'm done if they don't hire me to plow in a min. I go. We should all remember that - things happen sometimes when your on the computer, Phones, kids, and maybe even emergency's.

happy Farming All : )

~Farmer Tom~
Feb 04 2010, 10:14 AM
Truth be told I dont play farm town as much as I used to, I plant 3 day crops and come back when they are done and hire at the mp to harvest and plow. The last few times I have done this however I have had issues with my hired hands. I have 3 farms 2 of which have over 800 plots on them. I hire two people to work, no more, no less. Most of the time it goes just fine however the last two times I've hired theres been tension on the farm.

Both times I interviened telling them there was plenty to go around. My farms can be difficult to harvest as I have tree groves on top of crops so sometimes I have to explain things to people that dont understand how the prefrences work. My question is, how many of you have found yourself in this situation and what exactly do you do about it?

Unfortunately I can be a confrontational person. I dont need to tell people where to go every time I have to hire. Im having a hard enough time keeping interest in farmtown right now much less having childish arguments to deal with.:(

pg tips
Feb 04 2010, 10:22 AM
blow them up blow them all up if not I just hire the nicer one of the two to go to the next farm and leave the unreasonable one to moan to there self

or send the nice on a private chet to say ill ignore the other one id suggest you do the same

But if people want to ''fight'' leave them to it

pg tips
Feb 04 2010, 10:35 AM
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amberdh
Feb 04 2010, 11:26 AM
Tom, I feel exactly the same as you. What I do is hire to harvest, Leave FT and come here usually and then go hire new people to plow and leave again. They can bicker all they want because I am not even there. As far as hiding trees ( back when I had trees) I would only hire those that said they knew how in the MP. I have tons of patience here in the forum but on my farm. Not so much.

~Farmer Tom~
Feb 04 2010, 11:35 AM
Tom, I feel exactly the same as you. What I do is hire to harvest, Leave FT and come here usually and then go hire new people to plow and leave again. They can bicker all they want because I am not even there. As far as hiding trees ( back when I had trees) I would only hire those that said they knew how in the MP. I have tons of patience here in the forum but on my farm. Not so much.




Maybe thats what I should do too. I always thought it to be kinda rude(just my opinion) to leave but I dont play farmtown for added stress. Ive raised a child by myself for the most part and am done explaining about sharing:confused:

amberdh
Feb 04 2010, 11:52 AM
Maybe thats what I should do too. I always thought it to be kinda rude(just my opinion) to leave but I dont play farmtown for added stress. Ive raised a child by myself for the most part and am done explaining about sharing:confused:

No, I don't think its rude at all. Occasionally, when I get hired as I am selling my crops its awesome when the farm owner isn't there. And you shouldn't need to explain sharing. Let them duke it out! FT Is supposed to be fun and relaxing, if you find that it isn't, just change your strategy.

~Farmer Tom~
Feb 04 2010, 12:00 PM
No, I don't think its rude at all. Occasionally, when I get hired as I am selling my crops its awesome when the farm owner isn't there. And you shouldn't need to explain sharing. Let them duke it out! FT Is supposed to be fun and relaxing, if you find that it isn't, just change your strategy.

Thank you:)

Kelly4Jesus
Feb 04 2010, 02:22 PM
I have never hired more than one. I usually try to find a buddy or a neighbor first. If it's late, I go to MP. I ignore everyone flooding or begging, doing stupid little "I need to feed my kids", etc..and hire the ones that are politely standing there.

I have 5 kids. If someone is bickering, I'd leave and come back. Or, ask the developers to put in a ceiling fan and give us duct tape. We can it there and watch them bicker as they spin around. :)

I always harvest in a line of, 7 across and 5 down. That way, I keep one space if they hire more than one to harvest and plow. It amazes me how many are vultures, however. They don't respect that and are clicking their mouse all over the place, trying to grab what is there. Um, it's a game for fun! Geesh. I will then ignore the vultures so I never hire them on my farm.

I have tranquil farms of beach communities and campground. They better behave!!! lol

Kelly4Jesus
Feb 04 2010, 02:22 PM
I have never hired more than one. I usually try to find a buddy or a neighbor first. If it's late, I go to MP. I ignore everyone flooding or begging, doing stupid little "I need to feed my kids", etc..and hire the ones that are politely standing there.

I have 5 kids. If someone is bickering, I'd leave and come back. Or, ask the developers to put in a ceiling fan and give us duct tape. We can it there and watch them bicker as they spin around. :)

I always harvest in a line of, 7 across and 5 down. That way, I keep one space if they hire more than one to harvest and plow. It amazes me how many are vultures, however. They don't respect that and are clicking their mouse all over the place, trying to grab what is there. Um, it's a game for fun! Geesh. I will then ignore the vultures so I never hire them on my farm.

I have tranquil farms of beach communities and campground. They better behave!!! lol

tomater
Feb 04 2010, 02:33 PM
I let my bull out and let them fend for themselves. :p

Jamsi
Feb 04 2010, 03:00 PM
I also hire then leave them to it quite a lot... recently though I have found that when I come back I have to "finish off" as they have not done all the harvesting/plowing. I wouldn't mind so much if it was in places where trees or other stuff are but it is not, it's random patches all over the place and doesn't really warrant hiring someone else to finish off.

I usually only hire one person for each farm so it's not because they might of thought another person was going to do it!!:mad:

~Farmer Tom~
Feb 04 2010, 03:03 PM
I know all about hiring a buddy or neighbor and such, problem is that they arent on when I am and I just want to get it done with. Rest assure that most of the time this isnt a problem, but just as of late its been so. Maybe Im just in a funk or something.

JAS0643
Feb 04 2010, 03:27 PM
Tom, I feel exactly the same as you. What I do is hire to harvest, Leave FT and come here usually and then go hire new people to plow and leave again. They can bicker all they want because I am not even there. As far as hiding trees ( back when I had trees) I would only hire those that said they knew how in the MP. I have tons of patience here in the forum but on my farm. Not so much.

That is what I do I just don't go back with them. Not because I have had a lot of fighting but I get sick of being ask to plow the second we get to the farm. I don't mind if they ask after the harvesting is done but not the second we get to the farm.

Maybe thats what I should do too. I always thought it to be kinda rude(just my opinion) to leave but I dont play farmtown for added stress. Ive raised a child by myself for the most part and am done explaining about sharing:confused:

There are some that feel like the farm owner not being there is very rude and don't understand how some people can be so rude. Me personally think it is just fine that the farm owner is not there. I understand that people have a life outside of FT and they work farming into their lives. I also think that the reason some people think it is rude is that they want to plow and if the farm owner is not there they can't be hired to plow. :rolleyes: Also something to keep in mind if you have two farms the people you hire can not see your other farm so how are they supposed to know if you are there are not you could be on the other farm.

As for sharing I feel like it is every avatar for themselves, what you get is what you get. Now that said before I get jumped on I will not cut people off or jump into the area they are working in, but if I happen to be faster and I just get more crops then the next guy oh well, I don't have time to count the crops and make sure we both get half. I have had times when I have gotten less then others. It also depends on how many where hired if 2 for a nice size farm then I will work with the other person but if they hire 10 people then I'm going to grab what I can before the next guy gets it. :D

causingchaos
Feb 05 2010, 07:31 AM
I never sit around on my farm and watch the person harvesting. I have no desire to have some conversation with people and am just needing my farm harvested. If they don't want to harvest my pineapples because I'm not there more power to them. I will just come back later and hire someone else. I have a real life. I don't have time to sit around and babysit my farm while people are there.

On the rare occasion I harvest for others I don't chat. I'll usually say thanks at the end but that's about it and have never really understood why they just stand on their farm and watch but it's their farm so more power to them.

jeanieNGMsfarm
Feb 05 2010, 08:59 AM
I never sit around on my farm and watch the person harvesting. I have no desire to have some conversation with people and am just needing my farm harvested. If they don't want to harvest my pineapples because I'm not there more power to them. I will just come back later and hire someone else. I have a real life. I don't have time to sit around and babysit my farm while people are there.

On the rare occasion I harvest for others I don't chat. I'll usually say thanks at the end but that's about it and have never really understood why they just stand on their farm and watch but it's their farm so more power to them.


allot of time they might not be there watching. i know when i get a worker i leave my screen up but come here to the forum or another website. so while my avatar is "standing there watching" im doing my thing elsewhere lol

JAS0643
Feb 05 2010, 09:16 AM
I never sit around on my farm and watch the person harvesting. I have no desire to have some conversation with people and am just needing my farm harvested. If they don't want to harvest my pineapples because I'm not there more power to them. I will just come back later and hire someone else. I have a real life. I don't have time to sit around and babysit my farm while people are there.

On the rare occasion I harvest for others I don't chat. I'll usually say thanks at the end but that's about it and have never really understood why they just stand on their farm and watch but it's their farm so more power to them.

Some people hire the same people to harvest and plow so they need to be at their farm to do that. They also may want to seed as soon as the plowing is done so they go back to the farm with them for that reason. But like jeanieNGMsfarm said just because an avatar is at the farm doesn't mean the person is there, they could be on here, in another tab, doing something else, checking email, on another computer program, or have walked away form the computer.

livelovelife207
Feb 05 2010, 04:25 PM
There are some that feel like the farm owner not being there is very rude and don't understand how some people can be so rude. Me personally think it is just fine that the farm owner is not there. I understand that people have a life outside of FT and they work farming into their lives. I also think that the reason some people think it is rude is that they want to plow and if the farm owner is not there they can't be hired to plow. Also something to keep in mind if you have two farms the people you hire can not see your other farm so how are they supposed to know if you are there are not you could be on the other farm.

Id rather the farmer not be there after hire, than to sit and analyze my every move ...makes me feel more comfortable

I usaly have both farms going so i have to switch back and fourth so i can hire after to plow and I usaly only hire solo and have started a list on the good and bad hires.

they need to add a way for people who get booted off a job to be able to get back, as if we had to add every hire/or person we hired on our bud list, it be pretty long.

would be nice to have a five star rating where you could rate the employer/employee and farm . this would weed out the bad easier.

jeanieNGMsfarm
Feb 05 2010, 04:28 PM
Id rather the farmer not be there after hire, than to sit and analyze my every move ...makes me feel more comfortable

I usaly have both farms going so i have to switch back and fourth so i can hire after to plow and I usaly only hire solo and have started a list on the good and bad hires.

they need to add a way for people who get booted off a job to be able to get back, as if we had to add every hire/or person we hired on our bud list, it be pretty long.

would be nice to have a five star rating where you could rate the employer/employee and farm . this would weed out the bad easier.


i can the the rating option being abused.

livelovelife207
Feb 05 2010, 04:45 PM
i can the the rating option being abused.

Have it where you can give a star for at least for the good work someone does, then it can`t be abused.

if you don`t like the person work, than simply don`t give them a good rating.

we have this rating in my other app. on superpoke pets and its worked out well...

we rate the best playdates (when you feed someones pet) and their habitats.

JAS0643
Feb 05 2010, 05:02 PM
Id rather the farmer not be there after hire, than to sit and analyze my every move ...makes me feel more comfortable

I usaly have both farms going so i have to switch back and fourth so i can hire after to plow and I usaly only hire solo and have started a list on the good and bad hires.

they need to add a way for people who get booted off a job to be able to get back, as if we had to add every hire/or person we hired on our bud list, it be pretty long.

would be nice to have a five star rating where you could rate the employer/employee and farm . this would weed out the bad easier.

Look at this other post of mine it will explain some things about the avatar being on the farm but the person not being there to watch your every move. I personally never look to see if the farm owner is there or not I just get to work. Sometimes I will notice if they are there, like when I'm hired alone or with just one other person but when there is a herd of people it is hard to tell unless you look closely.

Some people hire the same people to harvest and plow so they need to be at their farm to do that. They also may want to seed as soon as the plowing is done so they go back to the farm with them for that reason. But like jeanieNGMsfarm said just because an avatar is at the farm doesn't mean the person is there, they could be on here, in another tab, doing something else, checking email, on another computer program, or have walked away form the computer.

BirdSalad
Feb 06 2010, 09:32 AM
Today I ran into something I never have before - I was hired to help harvest a farm - there were two other workers, but a big farm with plenty of crops for all of us. But when we finished, I received a plow request and didn't notice who made the request, thinking it was the farmer who hired me originally.

Nope - it must have been another of the workers, because I landed on a farm with new crops and nothing to plow, nothing to harvest.

Pretty sneaky, huh?

queenpinnana
Feb 06 2010, 10:32 AM
I have a question? Do you get more xp's for hiring someone to plough for you like you get more coin when you hire for harveting? The reason I ask is, I had a woman harvest my farm from the Market Place, and she told me that I get 2 more xp's if I let her plough. I was wondering if she was just being "untruthful" so I would hire her. I really never paid attention to the xp's when someone else ploughs, because I'm not that gung ho on leveling up fast like many :- )

jeanieNGMsfarm
Feb 06 2010, 10:50 AM
I have a question? Do you get more xp's for hiring someone to plough for you like you get more coin when you hire for harveting? The reason I ask is, I had a woman harvest my farm from the Market Place, and she told me that I get 2 more xp's if I let her plough. I was wondering if she was just being "untruthful" so I would hire her. I really never paid attention to the xp's when someone else ploughs, because I'm not that gung ho on leveling up fast like many :- )


the exp stays the same only diffrence from doing it is you spend less coins.. dont hold me to this i may be off on the number but im pretty sure its spend 20 coins to do it your self.. 15 to hire someone in the market and 10 to hire a neighbor so it only saves you money.. you get one exp and they plower gets one as well

medixgrad
Feb 06 2010, 01:27 PM
Today I ran into something I never have before - I was hired to help harvest a farm - there were two other workers, but a big farm with plenty of crops for all of us. But when we finished, I received a plow request and didn't notice who made the request, thinking it was the farmer who hired me originally.

Nope - it must have been another of the workers, because I landed on a farm with new crops and nothing to plow, nothing to harvest.

Pretty sneaky, huh?


I've had that happen too. I think it would be a good idea to fix it so you cannot hire anyone unless you actually have something to harvest or a field to plow

jeanieNGMsfarm
Feb 07 2010, 08:56 AM
I've had that happen too. I think it would be a good idea to fix it so you cannot hire anyone unless you actually have something to harvest or a field to plow

a mod even said yesterday, you cannot hire to plow or harvest unless there is something ready... many people trick you buy hiring you when they have one plot under a building or something.. one lonley tree ready to harvest when its hidden to the point you cant see it behind others just to get a solo job.... allways look at the name when you get a in job request

dale131
Feb 10 2010, 02:15 AM
I don't have the problem most of you seem to have. I only work with neighbors or do it myself if there are no neighbors.

Working with neighbors saves me coins, increases my income per crop, and helps them build up their x points.

When I used to run into those who think it is great to hire five or six at a time .... I simply sent them a note saying I don't work in crowds.

I've never had an abusive hire ..... and am surprised to see there are such animals playing the game.

But then I only hire one at a time to pick and plow.

BobbieV
Feb 10 2010, 06:07 PM
Ok now I am no harvest snob by any means I know how hard it is to get someone to harvest a crop of raspberries (not that I do them myself)
Iv read/heard the complaints though
Ok here goes the pet peeve
You finally get someone to harvest for you, get halfway done harvesting for this farmer and they turn around and go hire multiple players to plow for them. :mad:
Ok now that just isnt fair play.
Did you ever stop to think MAYBE that harvester of said rb's would LOVE to be asked to plow? Just a thought....
And some wonder why theres harvest snobs...:rolleyes:

Tyler45
Feb 10 2010, 06:15 PM
Well it is their farm and they can hire whoever they want ;)

Just cuz you harvest doesn't mean you should be asked to plow as well.

Tony D
Feb 10 2010, 06:16 PM
Ok now I am no harvest snob by any means I know how hard it is to get someone to harvest a crop of raspberries (not that I do them myself)
Iv read/heard the complaints though
Ok here goes the pet peeve
You finally get someone to harvest for you, get halfway done harvesting for this farmer and they turn around and go hire multiple players to plow for them. :mad:
Ok now that just isnt fair play.
Did you ever stop to think MAYBE that harvester of said rb's would LOVE to be asked to plow? Just a thought....
And some wonder why theres harvest snobs...:rolleyes:Hi BobbieV, I do agree with you on this as I have had it happen to me. It is very annoying, however there are a lot of people who think that the owner of the farm can do what ever they like. Whenever I hire from the M.P. I state what the crop is and + ploughing or no ploughing. What I would (and have done) is finish the harvesting job and then clicked ignore on the Farmer so I did not get caught by that Farmer again

BobbieV
Feb 10 2010, 06:26 PM
Interesting I feel like its a little slap in the face since most will leave a farm the minute they see such a low yielding crop
I had sage crop one time 5 people left my farm one said they only did pineapples
I guess thats just me bein anal then

Mrs Welley
Feb 10 2010, 06:52 PM
Interesting I feel like its a little slap in the face since most will leave a farm the minute they see such a low yielding crop
I had sage crop one time 5 people left my farm one said they only did pineapples
I guess thats just me bein anal then

I never leave a farm with a low yielding crop (unless booted), I really do not mind what I harvest as every little helps. Once 2 of us were hired to harvest and all there was were a couple trees and about 5 little plots, we both shared the small amount and thanked the farmer.

dale131
Feb 10 2010, 07:02 PM
Posted yesterday with pretty tame set of tex. It was up for a while and now is gone. I see some pretty snotty posts still. Do not like forums where posts are deleted for no good reason .... doubt if I will visit this site again since my views are appaently n:)ot wanted.

dale131
Feb 10 2010, 07:04 PM
did not see my first post and thought it was deleted .... see it now soooory:cool:

Nirgal
Feb 10 2010, 07:20 PM
Interesting I feel like its a little slap in the face since most will leave a farm the minute they see such a low yielding crop
I had sage crop one time 5 people left my farm one said they only did pineapples
I guess thats just me bein anal then

Not really, BobbieV.... it's all them.

Don't let it get you down... there's a lot of great farmers out there. Just remember to buddy up any time you find one whose philosophy is at least not opposite to yours.

Darcy88
Feb 10 2010, 07:24 PM
Ok now I am no harvest snob by any means I know how hard it is to get someone to harvest a crop of raspberries (not that I do them myself)
Iv read/heard the complaints though
Ok here goes the pet peeve
You finally get someone to harvest for you, get halfway done harvesting for this farmer and they turn around and go hire multiple players to plow for them. :mad:
Ok now that just isnt fair play.
Did you ever stop to think MAYBE that harvester of said rb's would LOVE to be asked to plow? Just a thought....
And some wonder why theres harvest snobs...:rolleyes:

I totally understand your frustration, Bobbie. Someone who was courteous would of hired you to plow also. I guess you just consider the source. ;)

jeanieNGMsfarm
Feb 10 2010, 07:31 PM
no one is entitled to plow. and each farmer has their own choice who they want to hire to do so with out giving reason. relax and enjoy the game. i would harvest raspberries all day if i where hired to and not bat an eyelash if i wasnt hired to plow i just return to the market when i was finished with the job i was hired to do

Janlee
Feb 10 2010, 08:54 PM
Ok now I am no harvest snob by any means I know how hard it is to get someone to harvest a crop of raspberries (not that I do them myself)
Iv read/heard the complaints though
Ok here goes the pet peeve
You finally get someone to harvest for you, get halfway done harvesting for this farmer and they turn around and go hire multiple players to plow for them. :mad:
Ok now that just isnt fair play.
Did you ever stop to think MAYBE that harvester of said rb's would LOVE to be asked to plow? Just a thought....
And some wonder why theres harvest snobs...:rolleyes:

Hi BV,

I'm guilty sometimes for several reasons which I will list below. When I'm planting raspberries my intent is the give that harvester the plowing as well to make up for the small $$$$$.

Sometimes:

1. I allow myself to get hired elsewhere and don't get back :o
2. I simply get impatient:o
3. I am at the marketplace and want to hire as many ppl as I can:)

Sorry if I ever did this to you.

freemanwpb
Feb 10 2010, 09:01 PM
Hi BobbieV, I do agree with you on this as I have had it happen to me. It is very annoying, however there are a lot of people who think that the owner of the farm can do what ever they like. Whenever I hire from the M.P. I state what the crop is and + ploughing or no ploughing. What I would (and have done) is finish the harvesting job and then clicked ignore on the Farmer so I did not get caught by that Farmer again
i agree,i give the plowing job to the person that does the harvesting,always.

JAS0643
Feb 11 2010, 02:22 AM
Ok now I am no harvest snob by any means I know how hard it is to get someone to harvest a crop of raspberries (not that I do them myself)
Iv read/heard the complaints though
Ok here goes the pet peeve
You finally get someone to harvest for you, get halfway done harvesting for this farmer and they turn around and go hire multiple players to plow for them. :mad:
Ok now that just isnt fair play.
Did you ever stop to think MAYBE that harvester of said rb's would LOVE to be asked to plow? Just a thought....
And some wonder why theres harvest snobs...:rolleyes:

Why do you think you should be asked to plow? Just because someone hires you for one job doesn't mean they ever have to hire you again, even if you can see a job that needs to be done. If you don't want to harvest raspberries then don't but don't get upset because the farmer didn't hire you for a second job. You are not entitled to the plowing just because you harvested for someone I don't care what crop you harvest. FYI I never have a problem getting people to harvest my raspberries.

causingchaos
Feb 11 2010, 07:49 AM
I cleaned out my friends list the other day and dropped below the number of people I have to hire to plow so now I only hire people to harvest. Not everyone that hires to harvest has the ability to hire people to plow even if they only plant raspberries. Back when I planted raspberries and was able to hire to plow I rarely did. Sometimes, I like to plow my own farm. Sometimes I want to rearrange my plots. Sometimes I want to add plots etc. and don't need someone there messing around plowing.

I've also harvested raspberries and not got to plow and it didn't even phase me. I was simply grateful for the coins I got from it and moved on. Because reality is I would have NO extra coins had I not taken the job and came out ahead by taking it.

carlybears
Feb 12 2010, 02:00 AM
This is the first time I have visited this forum and I amd kind of amazed at some of the comments here. I do not have a problem with harvesting only and someone else plowing; however when I finally get a plow job and it ends up with one of those people that has the "cheats" on how to plow several rows at once I end up with no plow job anyway. OR, I end up on one of those many farms ya'ss speak of that have lots of employees already there. I have never had the problem of ending up with too many employees on my farm. So, either employers are a little impatient when it comes to hiring or you don't mind having several people running over each othr on your farm. That said, it's your farm and whatever you want to do is up to you. I do leave those farms as I'm not going to fight other farmers for crops or plowing rights..it's a game in which there are no real WINNERS. It's just for FUN. This is something these beggers and farm HOGS need to realize when they get out there and do not let others even have a fair chance of working - especially plowing-on a farm. These newbies really don't have a chance at all. Somone asked why everyone was leaving and going to Farmville, my guess - less arguing, competition and more fun where they can still farm and do ALMOST the same thing they are doing here. Anyway, I do agree with some of what was said here, but Some of it I feel was a little off base so I wanted to give it from a different perspective.

Holliesmum
Feb 12 2010, 04:35 AM
I have always been able to hire people to plow but today, I wasn't able to. I have 9 neighbours, what has happened? I think I used to have 10.

jeanieNGMsfarm
Feb 12 2010, 09:34 AM
I have always been able to hire people to plow but today, I wasn't able to. I have 9 neighbours, what has happened? I think I used to have 10.

someone on your friends list probably blocked the app, that would make them no longer your neighbor

Chris Karr
Feb 12 2010, 12:51 PM
Oh wait! What about the ones that do those AND type in all caps AND do what you said with the multiples of the same letter for like twenty time so that it takes up the whole chat box and when you try to scroll past it, they keep it up. I have tried to use the ignore feature, but when you didn't catch the name the first time and they keep doing it so that the scroll won't work, it's kinda hard to ignore them.
AND the ones that jump in front of you..I mean RIGHT in front of you so that your avatar is hidden either behind or IN theirs as if they think that makes them more appealing to a prospective boss.

Robin, I don't think their aim is to make themselves more appealing. I think its to block prospective hirers from seeing and hiring you! That happens to me a lot.

Chris Karr
Feb 12 2010, 01:52 PM
Y'all I do understand that Farm Town is a game and as such shouldn't be taken too seriously, however......
The first of this week, I was hired to harvest and when I finished the job, I asked if the farmer needed me to plow. He said he noticed that I'm level 60 and didn't need to plow so he was going to give the job to someone who needed it. I thanked him, wished him a good evening and left. Since then, no matter who I harvest for, I'm never asked to plow. Most of the time the farmer is away from their farm when I'm done and don't answer when I send a message asking if they need plowing done. Several times, I've seen farmers hide behind buildings, etc and just not answering. I asked about it at the market and someone told me they're trying to help the lower levels and are just being nice. I do understand that and am far from being greedy but I don't understand people who try to hide to keep from hiring me. Also, if no one hires level 60's how is that going to affect the "ultimate farmer" contest? I have over 725,000 xps and have spent well over the required amount to qualify, but now have little hope of making more. This seems a unfair to me but I realize there is little or nothing that can be done. Just wanted to voice a sticking point. Is anyone else having this problem?

jeanieNGMsfarm
Feb 12 2010, 03:18 PM
Y'all I do understand that Farm Town is a game and as such shouldn't be taken too seriously, however......
The first of this week, I was hired to harvest and when I finished the job, I asked if the farmer needed me to plow. He said he noticed that I'm level 60 and didn't need to plow so he was going to give the job to someone who needed it. I thanked him, wished him a good evening and left. Since then, no matter who I harvest for, I'm never asked to plow. Most of the time the farmer is away from their farm when I'm done and don't answer when I send a message asking if they need plowing done. Several times, I've seen farmers hide behind buildings, etc and just not answering. I asked about it at the market and someone told me they're trying to help the lower levels and are just being nice. I do understand that and am far from being greedy but I don't understand people who try to hide to keep from hiring me. Also, if no one hires level 60's how is that going to affect the "ultimate farmer" contest? I have over 725,000 xps and have spent well over the required amount to qualify, but now have little hope of making more. This seems a unfair to me but I realize there is little or nothing that can be done. Just wanted to voice a sticking point. Is anyone else having this problem?

plowing is not a right. if you get hired to do so great. if not you allready did the job you were hire to do so just return to the market and if you only want to plow only accept those jobs. no farmer is required to rehire the person who harvested to plow as well.

what i have been running into in the market is hiring level 60 farmers i offer them to plow (dont pay attention to the level untill they respond with this) "thank you for the work i appreciate it but i am level 60 and do not need the exp please offer to someone who needs it" not complaining about it i dont mind returning to the market to find someone else just stating my experiance in the market

SunnyD
Feb 12 2010, 03:28 PM
i am also at level 60 when a farmer asks me If I would like to plow I do point out that I am at 60 sometimes and if they don't have a lower level neighbor I would be happy to help them........ I love this game and have had so much fun.... Now I try to find ways to redesign and seek the ever elusive Farm Cash so I can get the things I have put off getting because I can't afford Real Cash Purchases........

livelovelife207
Feb 12 2010, 03:39 PM
I always give the people that harvest my farm the option to plow and i never hire over 2 people and I try to hire from my neighbors first and though what gets me, out of 17 neighbors, I only had one on one occasion even ask me to do their farm, so thats my gripe.

I don`t care if they go sideways, make circle, or even a heart..lol.. long as they stay in the same area and not do one plot on top and do one down bottom.... though it all comes out the same at the end

I myself can`t do lines , my mouse just wont allow it... if I even tried, it take me hours.

Id rather hire someone that is normal paced that takes the time out to make sure they got everything over some fast worker who goes so fast and leaves stuff behind.

I hire any level, as I know everyone should be able to play the game and just because your level 60 doesn`t mean you should pay for that.

Hope everyone has a great weekend "HAPPY VALENTINES"

Chris Karr
Feb 12 2010, 11:46 PM
plowing is not a right. if you get hired to do so great. if not you allready did the job you were hire to do so just return to the market and if you only want to plow only accept those jobs. no farmer is required to rehire the person who harvested to plow as well.

what i have been running into in the market is hiring level 60 farmers i offer them to plow (dont pay attention to the level untill they respond with this) "thank you for the work i appreciate it but i am level 60 and do not need the exp please offer to someone who needs it" not complaining about it i dont mind returning to the market to find someone else just stating my experiance in the market

I'm sorry, I never said it was a "right". I do get hired to harvest and never turn one down. I always ask politely and, whether or not I get a reply, I thank the farmer, bid a good day and leave. I know no one is required to rehire and I respect that. My only problem with it is that they don't even have the decency to say "no". It just isn't right for me or anyone else to be penalized in that way because of our status. I do thank you for your reply and I'm hoping your problem finds a resolution as well as mine.

JeanT38
Feb 13 2010, 08:14 AM
Hi everyone,

I too am a level 60 player and i have gone to the markets many a time now and announced what level i am etc... " level 60 doesn't need coins or points, just happy to help out" and i have been employed many times for it, if i don't get employed no biggie, i have employed both level 60's and lower levels and have appreciated the honesty of the other players telling me what level they are..... although i have had one or two be dishonest only to later tell you what level they really are, not that it makes a difference.... as long as they do the job and are polite i have no problems with levels.

i have also been asked to leave someone's farm because they went to my farm and saw what level i was, that was a bit upsetting at first but now state what level so ppl can make a choice before employing me.

I try to stick one area to harvest or plow if there a few other farmers working too, although have had on a number jobs what i call "ninja harvesters or plowers" who are faster or deliberately start plowing or harvest where i am so they can get more.... most of the time if there is more then two other farmers i thank the employer for the hire and leave the fight to the others. Couldn't be bother battling for the work.

Happy farming everyone,

jeanieNGMsfarm
Feb 13 2010, 09:43 AM
I'm sorry, I never said it was a "right". I do get hired to harvest and never turn one down. I always ask politely and, whether or not I get a reply, I thank the farmer, bid a good day and leave. I know no one is required to rehire and I respect that. My only problem with it is that they don't even have the decency to say "no". It just isn't right for me or anyone else to be penalized in that way because of our status. I do thank you for your reply and I'm hoping your problem finds a resolution as well as mine.

well i have a solution for us. if you want to stop by i can add you as a buddy and as long as you dont mind hiding trees you can have my next crop harvest and plow. if your username is diffrent than you avatar name send me a pm so i know its you. i just planted pineapples yesterday so it will be a few days

causingchaos
Feb 13 2010, 10:15 AM
I'm sorry, I never said it was a "right". I do get hired to harvest and never turn one down. I always ask politely and, whether or not I get a reply, I thank the farmer, bid a good day and leave. I know no one is required to rehire and I respect that. My only problem with it is that they don't even have the decency to say "no". It just isn't right for me or anyone else to be penalized in that way because of our status. I do thank you for your reply and I'm hoping your problem finds a resolution as well as mine.

I'm one of the many that don't say no. One is that I don't sit around on my farm and watch people harvest. The reason I hire people is so I can go about and live my life and come back and have the farm harvest. Half the time I'm not even by my computer after I hire someone to harvest. I don't respond to those in game private messages either because I find them a tad nagging. If I was able to and wanted to hire someone to plow I would have. I don't need to be nagged about it. And I'm not going to respond back an hour or two later when I get around to my farm again well after those people have left.

medixgrad
Feb 13 2010, 02:07 PM
Hi everyone,
i have also been asked to leave someone's farm because they went to my farm and saw what level i was, that was a bit upsetting at first but now state what level so ppl can make a choice before employing me.
Happy farming everyone,

I think that is so rude. Another reason not to have a fire button.

I would have stayed just to annoy them and get as much money or XP's as I could out of them. There is nothing they could do about it,and no way to get rid of me once I'm there.

.

livelovelife207
Feb 13 2010, 04:14 PM
Hi everyone,

I too am a level 60 player and i have gone to the markets many a time now and announced what level i am etc... " level 60 doesn't need coins or points

Why do people assume you dont need coins or don`t need plow practice or just enjoy the game of plowing?

I know I`m level 60 and broke, why... well it cost 3,000,000 to buy the second farm then need to spend to upgrade even time to finish the 2nd farm... so here I am now wanting to decorate my farm which you need coins, so just because you are on level 60 with lots of coins, doesnt mean others are coin rich on level 60.

carlybears
Feb 13 2010, 05:41 PM
I see all the people in the marketplace begging for plowing jobs only...I take whatever is given to me, However, while I am waiting I visit other farms- amazingly I have found several of these people standing there begging for someone to let them plow need their own farms plowed! And yes, checked the trophies and they had enough neighbore to hire for plowing. IF they do not want to hire someone else to plow theirs then they should be BEGGING to plow other farms.... Or, they could tell the MP they have a plow job and offer a trade. As for the raspberry thing... I will harvest anything available; that's how I made it to level 60 in less than 6 months. as for coins... Right now I have 22,056,452; I have spent over 1 million and still have that many. So, it's very obvious that I'll harvest whatever I'm hired for. However, I do agree with the others, It is very rude for the farmer to wait until right before the harvesting is almost finished then hire others to plow. BUT- what is even more rude, is that when you ask to plow, they will turn away from you or walk around, and NEVER give a "yes" or "no" answer. How hard is it to give a simple "yes" or "no" answer? This is VERY RUDE... their farm or not gives the person to no right to be a JERK!! They don't have to worry about putting me on their ignore list because they get put on mine!!!

pg tips
Feb 13 2010, 05:54 PM
on the thing of people not replying does anyone think this maybe because the person doesnt use english as there first language so wont reply due to the language barrier

JAS0643
Feb 13 2010, 06:24 PM
, I do agree with the others, It is very rude for the farmer to wait until right before the harvesting is almost finished then hire others to plow.

How is that rude? Just because I hire you to do one job doesn't mean I ever have to hire you again even if you can see a job that needs to be done on my farm. If I want to hire someone other then the person that harvest for me that is my right and I'm not being rude by doing that. You are not entitled to my plowing just because you harvested for me no matter what crop you harvested for me.

JAS0643
Feb 13 2010, 06:31 PM
I'm one of the many that don't say no. One is that I don't sit around on my farm and watch people harvest. The reason I hire people is so I can go about and live my life and come back and have the farm harvest. Half the time I'm not even by my computer after I hire someone to harvest. I don't respond to those in game private messages either because I find them a tad nagging. If I was able to and wanted to hire someone to plow I would have. I don't need to be nagged about it. And I'm not going to respond back an hour or two later when I get around to my farm again well after those people have left.

I used to feel the same way about the messages asking to plow until I found something out and then I find one message left by someone okay because of what I now know. If you have 2 farms when you hire someone they can not see the other farm they only have access to the farm you hired them to harvest. Because of that I can understand leaving one message saying nicely that the harvesting is done do you need help plowing. The reason I feel this way is the farmer could be on the other farm and by leaving the message you let them know you are done and willing to help if they want. Then if the farmer is on the other farm they can pop over and hire them to plow if they choose. So I now understand leaving one message but the ones that leave several with them getting nastier as they go that is a different story.

causingchaos
Feb 13 2010, 07:00 PM
I very rarely spend any time in the market place to do anything other than hire people so you don't have to worry about hiring me. I find there are much better ways to waste my time than begging for jobs in the market place.

Carly, people are allowed to be "greedy" with their farms. They are after all their farms. Not your farm. Not hte farm of everyone in the market place. I don't understand why people suddenly think farms are somehow community property which they can tell the actual owners how to run them.

And I am extremely greedy with my time. I have a life beyond farm town. I don't have time to sit around and baby sit my farm. I hire and walk away from my computer to actually take part in said life and come back at my leisure to handle the rest of my farm. I'm sorry my greed with my time offends you, but I won't be sitting around by my computer to make sure the harvesters have someone to talk to.

livelovelife207
Feb 13 2010, 07:51 PM
I guess I might be the one who takes social gaming as "SOCIAL" ...why I play this instead a offline game, being a single mom, its nice to meet others.

I think most have lifes, just because they are playing a game once in awhile doesn`t mean they don`t have one.

its sad to see some who are proud to be ugly toward others... ((shakes head))

medixgrad
Feb 14 2010, 02:18 AM
I don't advocate rude behavior and I try to play fair but unfortunately there are those who don't play fair and don't care what they have to do to get coins and XP's.If I am harvesting or plowing and there are hogs there I just leave. However If someone told me to leave their farm because I was at the wrong level or working too slow I would ignore them and keep working simply because I'm not going to let them push me around and get away with being rude.

ElkRiverRancher
Feb 14 2010, 11:18 AM
I often accept jobs just for 'comic relief' - I'm at 60, with like a gazillion xp that is basically useless, and I've got somewhere in the neighbourhood of 10 mill, in coins. But, it's great fun to hire on, and just stimulate some conversation. Plus, as I do type, I'm able to get the work done, too. But, if there are 'a bunch of employees', I pretty much just chat with the farmer, and let others get the xp and coin. I'm still using employment quizzes, and having fun with that, too. I have a FV place, but honestly don't enjoy it, at all - I keep it for my friends who need gifts, or neighbours. I'm sooo hoping a third farm will soon be offered ... I'd like to build a tropical rain forrest .... I'm soooo tired of snow (Eastern Shore, MD, here ..).

fairview farm
Feb 14 2010, 02:11 PM
i really try to do the job that I accepted and to finish the job Points and coins are points and coins it doesn't matter what crop they came from. Doing small jobs for someone might lead to bigger jobs later you just never know. I enjoy being creative with my farm and have small fields sometimes some won't stay and that's their choice but I wish if they were going to do that, they would at least leave a note of thanks for the hire or say something . I like the Idea about using the ignore button for those who are rude or make game play no fun for others. !

Molly Mew
Feb 14 2010, 02:54 PM
Just to remind everyone that personal attacks are not tolerated, nor is discussion of 'cheats'. Posts containing either can and will be deleted without notice to the member.

Please, guys, there's room for all views here. Discussion is fine, but try and keep it polite. :)

Holliesmum
Feb 14 2010, 04:58 PM
someone on your friends list probably blocked the app, that would make them no longer your neighbor

Thank you! I have since discovered, a friend has deleted her farm, she is sick of it and didn't realise she was causing me to plow myself! lol.

Charo
Feb 15 2010, 05:21 AM
I very rarely spend any time in the market place to do anything other than hire people so you don't have to worry about hiring me. I find there are much better ways to waste my time than begging for jobs in the market place.

Carly, people are allowed to be "greedy" with their farms. They are after all their farms. Not your farm. Not hte farm of everyone in the market place. I don't understand why people suddenly think farms are somehow community property which they can tell the actual owners how to run them.

And I am extremely greedy with my time. I have a life beyond farm town. I don't have time to sit around and baby sit my farm. I hire and walk away from my computer to actually take part in said life and come back at my leisure to handle the rest of my farm. I'm sorry my greed with my time offends you, but I won't be sitting around by my computer to make sure the harvesters have someone to talk to.
This.

Well said.

I'm often doing other things, and my hiring of others is a favor unto them. Sometimes I chat, but half the time, I'm doing something else while they are working because I don't have all day to sit on FT. If the farm owner doesn't say anything, they probably are in another window or away from the keyboard. Just say thanks and move on. If you want to ignore, that's your prerogative. You may just miss out on another harvest or plowing job.

Don't take it so personally.

Bellegarath
Feb 15 2010, 07:31 AM
I usually don't want to chat while working on someone else's farm. Not because I'm being anti-social, (actually, I'm not all that social anyway) but to chat means you have to be out of full-screen mode and that makes it really hard to see a lot of the field you're working on & to work quickly (because I'm sure the owner doesn't want to hang around for HOURS while you'e plowing or harvesting their field(s)...

carlybears
Feb 15 2010, 03:59 PM
livelovelife207, I am sure you are not only one who plays this game to socialize. In fact, I have met A lot of very friendly people in the MP and while working for them or they workimg for me, so there still lots of them out there too. Some of there people have nothing better to do than sit home and see how annoying they can be to others- that's their goal in life. But not mine I chose to at least leave them satisfied with the end product. Medixgrade has the right idea- don't let the jerks push you around!!

sanitysgate
Feb 22 2010, 10:21 AM
I think there should be some way to educate new hires on some of the most basic elements of harvesting and plowing. I am tired of people who say they know how to hide trees and buildings, yet when they get to your farm, it's clear they do not.

And no one seems to pay attention to any instructions in the chat box. I can tell someone exactly how to hide things and I am ignored. It's as if they figure they'll get what money or XP points they can and then leave me with the plots they couldn't get to.

I would love to have a 'you're fired' option. I'm very tolerant of slow harvesters or plowers, but the clueless and the rude, not so much.

sanitysgate
Feb 22 2010, 10:32 AM
I am a level 58 and I've not yet experienced that sort of discrimination. I hope I don't. Just because I worked hard to get where I am in the game doesn't mean I am somehow less entitled to work. I personally don't care what level anyone is at when I hire them. I just want my hires to follow instructions and be polite to me and the others working on my farm.

pg tips
Feb 22 2010, 01:12 PM
Id just like to remind people who get annoyed by people not following instructions whilst on your farm some farmers can only plow or harvest in full screen mode so wont see the instructions.

Some people who hide trees whilst on your farm lose the plots underneath them so may not see the crops that have vanished.


And also some people only know three or for words in english yes please, I would like to work and thanks and can only read a few words to get themselves hired so may not be able to read what you type in the chat box.

sanitysgate
Feb 22 2010, 01:50 PM
I always harvest and plow in full screen and the chat box always opens up at the bottom when the farmer is talking to me. It's a matter of paying attention and minimizing if need be to respond. Don't know if everyone can see the chat box in full screen, but I know my husband does because I've had to remind him to hide my trees!

As far as people not understanding English, that I can forgive. But with a screen name like 'IdahoMom' (example only), I'm pretty sure she can read English.

Charo
Feb 23 2010, 03:30 AM
Not only does the chat box open up, a chat bubble appears as well - even in full screen, you can see it and unless you're so zoomed in that you cannot see anything other than a modest amount of land, you should know when someone is talking.

JAS0643
Feb 23 2010, 06:14 AM
Not only does the chat box open up, a chat bubble appears as well - even in full screen, you can see it and unless you're so zoomed in that you cannot see anything other than a modest amount of land, you should know when someone is talking.

The chat box does open sometimes if someone comes onto the farm, but if the person is working they are not paying attention to the chat box. They are there to work not chat. If you have special instructions for them say so up front. As for the chat bubble same thing they either are not paying attention or they are zoomed into the area they are working on and can't see you or your chat bubble. I don't understand why so many people get so upset because people don't chat while they are working. I'm sorry but if you hire me to work that is what I'm going to do. I will say thank you at the end but other then that I'm going to be harvesting or plowing which ever I was hired to do. If that is a problem for people then put me on ignore and you will never have to hire me again.

GrannyMo
Feb 23 2010, 11:39 AM
I always harvest and plow in full screen and the chat box always opens up at the bottom when the farmer is talking to me. It's a matter of paying attention and minimizing if need be to respond. Don't know if everyone can see the chat box in full screen, but I know my husband does because I've had to remind him to hide my trees!

As far as people not understanding English, that I can forgive. But with a screen name like 'IdahoMom' (example only), I'm pretty sure she can read English.

Not only does the chat box open up, a chat bubble appears as well - even in full screen, you can see it and unless you're so zoomed in that you cannot see anything other than a modest amount of land, you should know when someone is talking.

Forgive me, folks, but exactly what is it you must impart so urgently to your workers after they arrive on your farm that their apparent lack of response to your chat messages ticks you off so? If you're hiring from the MP and have special requirements, that's the place to discuss them -- either with the entire room, or using the capability to exchange private messages with a potential worker.

Before the "harvest crops only" option was available, I could see people getting upset about workers harvesting trees when they were asked not to, as a matter of courtesy. But really ... at this point, there's not much if anything that needs to be said between hiring farmer and worker except (hopefully) a courteous thank-you. The plowing and harvesting actions themselves don't require supervision or running commentary.

I'm with Jas on this one. If you want me to keep an eye on the chat window for some reason while I'm working, then say so up front. Otherwise, don't give me grief for not responding to your messages when after doing the job I pop out of full-screen to offer my thanks.

A little communication about expectations goes a long way.

sanitysgate
Feb 23 2010, 12:00 PM
I always ask at the marketplace for workers who know how to hide trees and buildings. Always. I always get people who say yes, they do. I hire them. When I get back to my farm with them, they don't know how to hide trees or buildings. I repeat myself and ask if they would like instructions on how to do so. I am ignored. I believe people say they can hide things when they have no idea how to, just to get the job.

And no, I won't chat with my workers beyond instructions that they're not following. They're there to do a job and leave. I do always say thank you and wish them a good day/evening, and that's that.

JeanT38
Feb 23 2010, 05:50 PM
I do that same in the MP i ask workers can they do this or that depending on what i want and only to hire them and they have no idea, and when you are TRYING to help them so they do know they ignore me, so i think they really do know but choose to not to do as asked of them deliberately, i'm not saying that every single one of them do it but i bet there is quiet a number of them who do.... as for giving instructions in the MP i find this bit hard at times as there is a large number of workers spamming the screen and trying to find someone to Private message can be difficult with the constant flooding.

If my workers want to chat i will chat if they don't that is fine, a simple 'thank you" when they have finished only the polite thing to do...


Happy farming may your crops and prosper :)

Charo
Feb 26 2010, 03:23 AM
Forgive me, folks, but exactly what is it you must impart so urgently to your workers after they arrive on your farm that their apparent lack of response to your chat messages ticks you off so? If you're hiring from the MP and have special requirements, that's the place to discuss them -- either with the entire room, or using the capability to exchange private messages with a potential worker.
What's so urgent? Perhaps the person has not hidden trees, and needs to be taught how. It's partially for my benefit, but mostly for theirs. I'm not there to lord over people or socialize too much, but if I see someone screwing up I'd like to be able to correct them for their own benefit.

jeanieNGMsfarm
Feb 26 2010, 09:11 AM
What's so urgent? Perhaps the person has not hidden trees, and needs to be taught how. It's partially for my benefit, but mostly for theirs. I'm not there to lord over people or socialize too much, but if I see someone screwing up I'd like to be able to correct them for their own benefit.

i agree in the trees need to be hidden part and they need to be taught. i allways ask for workers who can hide trees and like most of us know many are not truthful, i learned this most on my farm as my second farm the crops are all hidden. i have had worked go as far as yell at me with rude name twards me because there were no crops only trees. and ignore my telling them hey there are pineapples under them.. oh well their loss they got ignored and i got a new worker ...

if my worker wants to chat i will stick around i dont mind a good conversation if not they can finish their job and i will come to the forum checking back to see if they need to be hired to plow yet

Wilde Lily
Feb 27 2010, 08:02 PM
For most of my time playing Farmtown (I'm Level 60 now) I've been able to hire my neighbors to work on my farm. For the past few moths though many of my neighbors have left the game, so it's harder to catch a neighbor online when I need them. Instead I've been hiring from the Marketplace.

I'm in no particular hurry so I hire two people for one of my farms with a large harvest, and one person for the other farm with a medium harvest. I include trees for whomever wants them, and plowing too if they like. I sometimes end up, though, with 3-4 people for the large crop since not everyone answers my request right away and I end up making another request unknowingly. I usually have no grumblings from anyod. But there are those who feel themselves somehow entitled, as though they are doing me a "favor" working for me. For instance today I went ahead and hired a farmer who advertised they's only harvest if they could plow, then she proceeded to tell me not to hire anyone else when two more farmers showed up to help. Then she just "stood there" and refused to answer my plow requests when I first hired another farmer to plow also. :rolleyes: Needless to say I will never hire her again.

Family007
Feb 27 2010, 09:12 PM
I get really annoyed when I'm in the market place waiting for a job to come up and there are people there who flood the chat with "HIRE ME" or "NEED JOB". I just sit and wait. Some people just need to be a little more patient when it comes to jobs. Just keep an eye out and if someone is offering work, then ask. Fellow farmers are more likely to hire someone who hasn't been spamming the board! I often get 2-3 jobs just sitting there.

Venzulu
Feb 28 2010, 03:21 AM
I have problems with the chat box. I have an old computer and the chat box tries to come up and when it finally does, the person has left. Also, if I get lucky enough to be able to hire someone, they get in work their rear ends off and I can't tell if they have finished or not. I'm a big chatter box and see so many trying to communicate and I didn't get a chance to respond, I feel awful, so I refrain from hiring instead of feeling like big jerk. I have lowered my graphics on my computer, used the toggle switch, froze animals and hid things to get this to work.

LaughingHorseFarm
Feb 28 2010, 06:57 AM
Lately I've found that sometimes when I hire someone to work my farm it can take a long while for them to show up. Today I hired, they accepted, I chose to go with them to my farm and they didn't show up. I waited and waited, then I watered two farms and waited some more. Finally I went back to MP and hired someone else. Again chose to go with them to my farm. This time the second person and the first person showed up on my farm. How can a person delay going to your farm?

pg tips
Feb 28 2010, 07:02 AM
Lately I've found that sometimes when I hire someone to work my farm it can take a long while for them to show up. Today I hired, they accepted, I chose to go with them to my farm and they didn't show up. I waited and waited, then I watered two farms and waited some more. Finally I went back to MP and hired someone else. Again chose to go with them to my farm. This time the second person and the first person showed up on my farm. How can a person delay going to your farm?

slow load times due server traffic slow computers people not haveing everything hidden while loading farms are a number of reasons

Deanna J. Lloyd
Mar 04 2010, 11:46 AM
I have a total of four farms. My original farm has only 390 arable fields because of all the trees, flowers, water works, buildings, etc. I have put on it. For that one, I usually hire just one person to harvest. If they're thorough, I will usually hire them to plow. If their harvesting is erratic and they won't respond to my prompts to harvest fields they have missed, I don't hire to plow.

Two of my farms are in the 500-600 field range, and I still usually hire only one person to harvest. Plowing is again based on how thorough they are. My largest farm has nearly 900 fields. For this one I will probably hire two people to harvest -- but I tell them I'm hiring two and suggest they work together, dividing the farm up.

Most often, I will hire whoever harvested to do the plowing as well. It's easier than going back to the MP to find someone else. However, I do stack my farms sometimes & I do have neighbors who are trying to level up, so there's no guarantee I will hire to plow. And I don't usually hire to plow until all the harvesting is done.

Oftentimes, when I don't plan to have a farm plowed, I will remain in the MP and get myself hired so I'm not around at the crucial moment. If a farmer sends me a message, polite, I will often return to my farm & hire them. If not, or if they are rude or pushy, I can just ignore their message.

More than anything else, I don't like hiring more than two people to do any job because I find the more people working on a farm, the more erratic the results. I have landed on many a farm where there are hordes of workers running around trying to snatch up all they can get. Then I usually zoom out and find a quiet space to work. When someone jumps in front of me, I move somewhere else. But best of all, when everyone thinks everything is gone, I zoom out and do mop-up. I find most owners really appreciate my efforts & I've often been rewarded by being the only one hired to plow or getting hired to harvest and/or plow a second farm alone.

All that said, a "fire" button would be a rarely used, but very desirable, feature.

Thundermax
Mar 06 2010, 05:28 PM
Ok to all the lvl 60 and now lvl 80 people.I must say I did start not to hire you as for some who said everytime I try I get this Please if you can find a low person I am 60 and dont need it..Which is true..lol Not only that I know some of the max lvl ppl will need coins and such so for that I am sorry.I have always felt the need to help low ppl though.

With the need to do that.I have been on ppl farms where like 20 ppl is working and although sometimes I am just there for the work.. But 20 ppl?? OMG come on yes your right it goes fast and you can reseed.For those who says I dont have time to wait for a few to do the work.Then can you now wait till you do have the time? Have you really even did work for ppl like yourself and see that it really isnt worth your time going there?

I know some may click a few cause of the ppl at the market dont answer when you want them too.But you know the difference in that and when someone just hires all 20 ppl at the market.You get like 5 to 10 plots if your lucky.So that has made me really to nvr hire more then 2 ppl.Which I have hired like 4 at the most before.

I even hired one person to harvest before and she told me are you gonna get me help? Im like well ok..lol Shocked me but I did as she wanted so I went and hired one more.So see it goes to show ppl do speak as well as ingore and lie to you.

I dont care you want to chat or not.If I am on your farm working I am gonna do what I can and chat when I can.If you are on mine I will chat if I dont care how long it takes you to finish my farm.Most of the time I always chat with ppl and when it comes to plowing my farms, I do hide sometimes when I dont feel like explaining the layering.Some ppl thinks its cheating.Well ingore me , report me, or do whatever it is you need to.I have read and read and tried to post in these forums and most of which everytime I do they closed it down.Then dont tell ya where to go on it.But they want you to read and post in the right forums right? Ha ha ha.You cant cause they keep closing them.

Anyway I do use it till they put a stop to it.Cause no matter what some says.It does help the employment lines get smaller.Well least it stops ppl I know from haveing to goto the market.Me too...lol less no one is on and you have crops to do...lol Then I meet more ppl.Now less they stopped the exp for this endless plowing last night.I know on one of my farmtown accounts on myspace is still gettin the exp. PLEASE do fix that and stop the exp.. I could care less about the exp alot of ppl fuss over. Now I didnt say I dont love them.I do remeber me on my main and wanting lvl 44 so bad.I played like non stop till I had it.No I didnt use the layering thing as I not to long ago learned about it.So yes I worked just as hard as MOST of yall..

Besides I couldnt get ppl to do my farm like someone I know and found someone to plow theirs for like 2 hours..Im like wow how lucky...lol Jealous yes I was.Not that they got someone to help exp wise.But the fact they found someone.lol And as for the no exp plowing anyway.. well if you watch when you layer your farm, if I am right you still get the seed exp.So as for plowing not counting be glad for the seeding part..lol and it also slows us down again..lol
As for me? Its not so much the exp I go for.. its just playing the game.I have lots of fun and I love to make ppl laugh.Since another thread is closed I will say here.Maybe someone who has the time or know where to post it.I say for all those who was at 60 and just got bumped to 80 cause we worked and need something else to shoot for.. and for the whinners who thinks when they up the lvls picked a few ppl and made them lvl 80 now and they still stuck at lvl 51 or something like that.Do what another game I play does.And thats STOP the exp from ADDING.Double our coins for the lack of exp.Or just stop the exp count period with nothing in return.I be happy with that ..I think????

To be honest this game does not need to have a end.Yes we wont live long enough to get to 2000 lvls if it just goes on and on.But thats the fun part.How high can we climb? I understand for new and low ppl.. 100 lvls OMG I will nvr make it.Well I hate that the fact is you must not have played many games.Cause alot of games I have played where exp comes in.As you lvl you need more and more to the next.So yes the higher lvl needs way more exp to get there.

Also I would like to see a 3rd farm, rather then make the 2 we have bigger.Yes its sad that if I wanted alot of stuff on my farm I dont have the room.But least with 3 farms you can split it up.I have a very good pc and I do see times where Farmtown wont load or something.I hate to see a person with a smaller pc then mine with problems.Yes I also found out some is on dial-up and such.

Anyway I am trying to make this short as I can.I feel in love with the game when my wife showed it to me.I even told her a few tips...lol She thought at first coffee was a good seed.Rasp is the best so far..lol I even past her up in lvl too when I started to play..like I said I just found out about the layering so my main account did alot and I mean alot of work in a short period of time.So yes to the new ppl IT CAN BE DONE. BUT your hand will hate you later...lol

Yes we need more seeds and more 2,4,8,and 12 crops too What about a 6 or a 10 hour crop?? No more coins please.Keep it with the other seeds.I think we can get just as much work and money without new prices too.

As for the layering and 2 ppl working on my farm.Let me know if you want solo too.I have the work as long as I can layer still.Its mostly no one on or everyone on at one time wanting work that I have a problem with...lol If you spam at the market I will ethier ingore you or not pay attention to your chats.I have seen market full of ppl and its bad enough you get like 5 ppl saying stuff that your chat goes up , up and away to have you come along and type
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well thats all for now.Sorry so long but thats all the stuff I been wanting to say with short details here and long there.So I am sure I will get responses to something I didnt say in detail.Like I said I was trying to make this short..lol see ya in farmtown.

snowy52@comcast.net
Mar 12 2010, 08:10 AM
I will go to the marketplace and hire one person. if they dont respond. then I go to the next. and so on. I ran into a person today. while working that told everyone NOT to jump around on her farm. HUH> well. when I go to full screen, it jumps around for me. <G> so I left. I felt. .OCD?? anyway. I try to hire one person and ask if they need help. most say no.. so I leave it alone. and I ask if they want to plow.some say no. they dont have time. so be it. If I dont get hired to plow. thats fine too. its a game .. supposed to have fun with it. I leave a farm if its too stressful

*Farmer Brad*
Mar 12 2010, 04:54 PM
Today I was working on someone's farm and when we were done the person working with me asked if I wanted to work on their farm. I said no because I was going to plow on the original person's farm. The swore at me and left immediately. I tried to report them but couldn't. It was very offensive. :(

medixgrad
Mar 12 2010, 11:56 PM
I have found that some people who are hiring don't pay attention what is being said at the MP. I guess they assume that it is all begging so don't pay attention?That isn't always the case.

I was having trouble plowing Tuesday night so I said over and over I will harvest only plowing isn't working for me tonight. I wasn't begging just trying to let others know that I was unable to perform a certain task. I'll be darned if every job offer I got was for plowing! Not one harvest job. I had to turn them down.

JAS0643
Mar 13 2010, 10:23 PM
I have found that some people who are hiring don't pay attention what is being said at the MP. I guess they assume that it is all begging so don't pay attention?That isn't always the case.

I was having trouble plowing Tuesday night so I said over and over I will harvest only plowing isn't working for me tonight. I wasn't begging just trying to let others know that I was unable to perform a certain task. I'll be darned if every job offer I got was for plowing! Not one harvest job. I had to turn them down.

When I go to the mp to hire people I just find people and click on them I don't brother reading what is being said in chat.

Deanna J. Lloyd
Mar 17 2010, 12:52 AM
I had a hiring experience the other night that absolutely takes the cake!! I could tell the person harvesting hadn't hidden the trees because they had missed the four or five fields that the trees hide. In chat, I asked him three times if he knew how to hide trees. [I'm more than willing to explain how to someone who doesn't know.] Well, no response! So it move to the part of the field where he was working thinking perhaps he was in full screen & couldn't read the chat. I figured if I was standing right next to him, he would see the speech balloon and respond. Well, he remained mute but finally harvested the fields in question.

Here's the kicker. When he finished, he just STOOD there. Hadn't "said" a word to me the whole time. No "Thank you" when I hired him. No "May I please plow?" when he finished. Not one single word!! So I went to my Buddy List, found someone who was on-line and hired them. The guy finally left, but if I ever see him (I will recognize his name) I will send him a private chat on why I'm ignoring him, and then hit the Ignore button.

That's one time I really would have loved to have a "Fire" button!!! My Buddy who did the plowing said if you quit FT and sign out of Facebook, the person working your farm will be gone -- kicked off -- when you come back. I haven't tried it yet, but the next time I get someone non-responsive or overly familiar, I'm going to.

medixgrad
Mar 17 2010, 01:52 AM
I've never known that to happen. I've been working for someone many times and they said they were leaving for the night or had to go back to the job or whatever reaso they had to leave They left and I finished the job.

Many times I have hired and left and the job was done when I logged in next time.

causingchaos
Mar 17 2010, 08:00 AM
I've never known that to happen either. I am never on my farm as people are working and for the most part I am logged out and off to work even. When I arrive back my farm is done.

Mexican Immigrant
Mar 17 2010, 01:55 PM
i ignore people in the MP the say plowwwwwwww or plssssssssss. drives me crazy. i also avoid people that get on the cart for some reason.

Tico
Mar 17 2010, 06:55 PM
I was on a farm doing some trees then plowing for the lady farmer.
Im so so sorry I got booted before I could finish and could not return to the farm :(
I do apologise xx

JAS0643
Mar 17 2010, 07:30 PM
I had a hiring experience the other night that absolutely takes the cake!! I could tell the person harvesting hadn't hidden the trees because they had missed the four or five fields that the trees hide. In chat, I asked him three times if he knew how to hide trees. [I'm more than willing to explain how to someone who doesn't know.] Well, no response! So it move to the part of the field where he was working thinking perhaps he was in full screen & couldn't read the chat. I figured if I was standing right next to him, he would see the speech balloon and respond. Well, he remained mute but finally harvested the fields in question.

Here's the kicker. When he finished, he just STOOD there. Hadn't "said" a word to me the whole time. No "Thank you" when I hired him. No "May I please plow?" when he finished. Not one single word!! So I went to my Buddy List, found someone who was on-line and hired them. The guy finally left, but if I ever see him (I will recognize his name) I will send him a private chat on why I'm ignoring him, and then hit the Ignore button.

That's one time I really would have loved to have a "Fire" button!!! My Buddy who did the plowing said if you quit FT and sign out of Facebook, the person working your farm will be gone -- kicked off -- when you come back. I haven't tried it yet, but the next time I get someone non-responsive or overly familiar, I'm going to.

First of all avatar names are not unique in this game so if you see someone with that name it may or may not be the same person you hired. As for chatting you are right he could of had the game if full screen mode but you standing next to his avatar doesn't mean he will see the chat balloon since there is queuing in the game his avatar may be in one spot and but screen in another spot on the field. As for him not saying think you he could have click on all the fields and then got called away by the phone, a kid, bathroom break, and just left the game open while he did that. He could have been rude by not saying think you but he may have just been called away or maybe he doesn't speak English. I think that wanting to fire someone who sounds like did a good job, but just didn't speak to you is one of the main reason we do not need a fire button. In my opinion that is not a good enough reason to fire someone.

Second as for leaving facebook causing someone to be kicked off your farm in a since firing them your friend is wrong that doesn't work you can log out of facebook, even turn the computer off and the person will still be on your farm and can do what every you hired them to do. There is no way to stop them from doing that.

Zaa
Mar 20 2010, 12:52 PM
I'm just coming from the marketplace very disturbed and very mad and i'm wondering if anyone feels as outraged as i do about it. I see a guy saying something along this lines "I'm going to bury my 7 month old in a few hours."

Ok, nothing wrong with that even tho its none of my business. But then after getting all this simpathy from a lot of people in MP he follows it with " I'm looking for any harvest or plow job."

I asked him a simple question. Why would someone say something like that and proceed to ask for work? Then i basically get told by everyone that showed simpathy to this guy, to mind my own business. I mean, why would you do that? I have lost kids before and i know i wouldnt go into a game, advertise it and then continue begging for work. And then to people telling me to mind my own business, he made it everyones business when he advertise it on a place like the marketplace.

Was I wrong to ask him that? I dont think i was. He never gave me an answer neither. I seriously think he was lying to get the simpathy he obviously got.

JCarli7705@aol.com
Mar 20 2010, 02:36 PM
Not being able to Hire Farmers to HARVEST my field even at Level 31. I'm now level 32.
I get a message that I need be Level 25 or higher....What is this all about?

Snake,
Thanks for any help.

JCarli7705@aol.com

Zaa
Mar 20 2010, 02:43 PM
you need to have 10 neighbors to be able to hire people to plow you fields. your level i think its irrelevant.

JCarli7705@aol.com
Mar 20 2010, 02:46 PM
Thanks for the quick reply !
I'll get on that...I only have 4 at present !
That explains a lot.......Snake

Ms Soliloquy
Mar 20 2010, 02:51 PM
I've been FarmTowning it for a year now and pretty much seen it all.

I hire exactly how I myself like to be hired which is:

One person on each farm to harvest with an offer of ploughing after. I ask if they want the work for themselves or need help. 100% of the time they're happy to work on their own (I can relate to that).

I plant crops that I myself enjoy harvesting, in other words high yield crops such as pineapples, cotton, peppers etc.

If I want to level up, I plant raspberries and harvest myself then offer the ploughing at the MP to people with good manners standing around the edges keeping themselves to themselves. The only 'test' I'm interested in, is whether people have good manners or not.

With regards to silly little games people play - Example: Was hired yesterday with 4 others to harvest 3 trees then got told to stop standing there and hop to it LOL - Seriously, I left laughing. Some people are too sad and pathetic to get mad at, they really are.

From an employee point of view. I'll happily do any work that I'm hired to do be it trees, grapes, ploughing etc etc. I actually like the element of surprise especially when it's a big field of pineapples - Aren't they the best?

I would NEVER stand in the MP and state 'solo plough only' or 'don't do trees' or 'only harvest pineapples' - I'm sure progression in the game with that attitude is slowwwww.

Best way to get hired is to clearly state that you're available for work once every 2 or 3 minutes.

As far as glitches go, I've been booted by the server that many times I've lost count and then felt really guilty that the hirer may have thought I just left without saying thank you - But what can you do when it's not your fault? When my farm is half harvested/ploughed I just think it's a shame they lost the work because of the server.

I've also left farms where other employees are being down right rude by moving in on a patch that I'm clearly methodically working - There's no need for it.

Got in a squabble only once with a lady who ploughed a divide line down the ahem "middle" of a field. I counted the rows, the ratio was 18:13 in her favour. I knew she'd laid out a boundry that I WASN'T to cross so when my 13 rows were ploughed I crossed it to see if she'd say something. Sure enough, she soon started to complain so I just ignored her, ploughed two more rows, said thank you to the nice farmer and left...:rolleyes:

I've learnt that you have to take this game with a very big pinch of salt. If people behave in a way that you don't like, either walk away or put them on ignore. Simples.

causingchaos
Mar 20 2010, 03:51 PM
I had a blast this morning in the marketplace. I had some extra time so I decided to take some jobs and it was a lot of fun seeing what everyone planted. I'm not in dire need of points so harvesting potatoes and or watermelon was just out right fun. I felt kind of bad watching people beg to plow on one farm after they harvested. And then felt a little bad that I had to leave and get some stuff done and I wasn't sure if I was going to finishing plowing one of the farms I was hired at. I'm not the speediest plower but I try.

Anyhow, it was just a joy to get around and look at other people's farms while working on them and not be overly concerned about their hiring practices, planting practices etc.

Wilde Lily
Mar 20 2010, 10:33 PM
I've been FarmTowning it for a year now and pretty much seen it all.

I hire exactly how I myself like to be hired which is:

One person on each farm to harvest with an offer of ploughing after. I ask if they want the work for themselves or need help. 100% of the time they're happy to work on their own (I can relate to that).

I plant crops that I myself enjoy harvesting, in other words high yield crops such as pineapples, cotton, peppers etc.

If I want to level up, I plant raspberries and harvest myself then offer the ploughing at the MP to people with good manners standing around the edges keeping themselves to themselves. The only 'test' I'm interested in, is whether people have good manners or not.

With regards to silly little games people play - Example: Was hired yesterday with 4 others to harvest 3 trees then got told to stop standing there and hop to it LOL - Seriously, I left laughing. Some people are too sad and pathetic to get mad at, they really are.

From an employee point of view. I'll happily do any work that I'm hired to do be it trees, grapes, ploughing etc etc. I actually like the element of surprise especially when it's a big field of pineapples - Aren't they the best?

I would NEVER stand in the MP and state 'solo plough only' or 'don't do trees' or 'only harvest pineapples' - I'm sure progression in the game with that attitude is slowwwww.

Best way to get hired is to clearly state that you're available for work once every 2 or 3 minutes.

As far as glitches go, I've been booted by the server that many times I've lost count and then felt really guilty that the hirer may have thought I just left without saying thank you - But what can you do when it's not your fault? When my farm is half harvested/ploughed I just think it's a shame they lost the work because of the server.

I've also left farms where other employees are being down right rude by moving in on a patch that I'm clearly methodically working - There's no need for it.

Got in a squabble only once with a lady who ploughed a divide line down the ahem "middle" of a field. I counted the rows, the ratio was 18:13 in her favour. I knew she'd laid out a boundry that I WASN'T to cross so when my 13 rows were ploughed I crossed it to see if she'd say something. Sure enough, she soon started to complain so I just ignored her, ploughed two more rows, said thank you to the nice farmer and left...:rolleyes:

I've learnt that you have to take this game with a very big pinch of salt. If people behave in a way that you don't like, either walk away or put them on ignore. Simples.

I think this is sound, thoughtful practice. Well done! :)

medixgrad
Mar 20 2010, 11:52 PM
I'm beginning to think I am going to have to start babysitting my employees. When I hire them and leave and then back later only part of the field is harvested or plowed, trees aren't touched or just harvested here and there. If I stay the field is completely cleared or plowed and trees done.
I at first thought that maybe due to glitches, people were kicked off the farm but since this is everytime I have hired people (I usually hire 2) in the last week or so I am wondering. None of the housekeeping tricks, clearing cache, refreshing etc... changes anything so that seems to leave the employees not doing what they are hired to do.
I know it's only a game but if you are hired kindly finish what you start.

causingchaos
Mar 21 2010, 09:54 AM
I know in the past I haven't finished what I started because my real life has gotten in the way. Children needing stuff, elderly parents needing stuff people stopping over and phone calls all take precedence over a computer game. Or sometimes I think I can finish before going to work or an appointment and I can't and I don't always have time to give the farmer an explanation on where I'm going or what is going on in my life.

schoolmarm
Mar 23 2010, 07:17 PM
I know in the past I haven't finished what I started because my real life has gotten in the way. Children needing stuff, elderly parents needing stuff people stopping over and phone calls all take precedence over a computer game. Or sometimes I think I can finish before going to work or an appointment and I can't and I don't always have time to give the farmer an explanation on where I'm going or what is going on in my life.

There is the option of leaving a note before leaving their farm. Some use this to say thanks for the work when the owner of the farm has already left. If something in the real world interrupts, how about a quick "something unexpected in the real world and must leave game?"

Does this sound workable?

Charo
Mar 24 2010, 12:29 AM
"sorry, rl" is more than enough and takes only 5 seconds at most to type.

EmmyLo
Mar 24 2010, 06:25 PM
Hi everyone. I am fairly new to FT and have learned a lot about hiring and working on others farms just by reading this thread. However, I have one question. When I hire someone to harvest my farm, how do I get them to plow it when they are through? I know I can ask them, but how do I enable that for them? I hired someone to harvest my field and I asked them if they wanted to plow. They said "yes" then they stood there. Were they waiting for me to do something?

Advise is greatly appreciated!

Signed,
A Newbie ;)

Mr. H
Mar 25 2010, 11:43 AM
I know in the past I haven't finished what I started because my real life has gotten in the way. Children needing stuff, elderly parents needing stuff people stopping over and phone calls all take precedence over a computer game. Or sometimes I think I can finish before going to work or an appointment and I can't and I don't always have time to give the farmer an explanation on where I'm going or what is going on in my life.

I don't have a problem with that at all.

Since the second farm was added I have had between 1800-1900 fields planted and usually hire from the MP multiple times a day to harvest and plow them.

People come and go all the time. Connection problems, real life problems.

I've rarely had anyone leave a note that they had issues but it's happened. I wouldn't think any less of you if you didn't. I'd just go grab another person to finish the job.

Mr. H
Mar 25 2010, 11:58 AM
I'm beginning to think I am going to have to start babysitting my employees. When I hire them and leave and then back later only part of the field is harvested or plowed, trees aren't touched or just harvested here and there. If I stay the field is completely cleared or plowed and trees done.
I at first thought that maybe due to glitches, people were kicked off the farm but since this is everytime I have hired people (I usually hire 2) in the last week or so I am wondering. None of the housekeeping tricks, clearing cache, refreshing etc... changes anything so that seems to leave the employees not doing what they are hired to do.
I know it's only a game but if you are hired kindly finish what you start.

I'm guessing it's coincidence more than anything else.

I don't often work for others but I would never notice if you are there are not.

Most unfinished work is, I'm guessing, related to connection issues. I see no difference between being there and not being there. Stuff happens.

Now, trees are the exception.

If you want trees harvested you have to specifically ask for someone to do them. Most experienced workers will have their trees turned off and won't even see them. Plus, most would never do them unless asked. People are finicky about their trees and a lot of people don't want them done. That's handy because they are really not worth much for the harvester or the farmer.

Also, people may not see your instructions to harvest trees. A lot of people like to work in full screen mode and once in full screen all communication ceases.

jeanieNGMsfarm
Mar 25 2010, 05:16 PM
Hi everyone. I am fairly new to FT and have learned a lot about hiring and working on others farms just by reading this thread. However, I have one question. When I hire someone to harvest my farm, how do I get them to plow it when they are through? I know I can ask them, but how do I enable that for them? I hired someone to harvest my field and I asked them if they wanted to plow. They said "yes" then they stood there. Were they waiting for me to do something?

Advise is greatly appreciated!

Signed,
A Newbie ;)

you have to click them and select hire to plow keep in mind you need 10 neighbors to hire to plow

JAS0643
Mar 26 2010, 12:39 AM
Plus, most would never do them unless asked. People are finicky about their trees and a lot of people don't want them done.

Although in the past a lot of people wouldn't harvest trees unless the person asked them to there is no need in that any more. If people don't want their trees harvested then they have the option to hire us where we can't harvest trees. In my opinion if I have the ability to harvest trees I assume the farmer wants them harvested so I harvest them. There is no need anymore for the bull s*** of asking for permission to harvest something on someone's farm. Also I never say I have trees that need harvesting when I go to the mp and I always get my 2000+ trees harvested with no problem.

Mr. H
Mar 26 2010, 11:48 AM
Although in the past a lot of people wouldn't harvest trees unless the person asked them to there is no need in that any more. If people don't want their trees harvested then they have the option to hire us where we can't harvest trees. In my opinion if I have the ability to harvest trees I assume the farmer wants them harvested so I harvest them. There is no need anymore for the bull s*** of asking for permission to harvest something on someone's farm. Also I never say I have trees that need harvesting when I go to the mp and I always get my 2000+ trees harvested with no problem.

It's been my experience that a lot of people don't fully read the info box when they get hired and the vast majority, me included, don't have the trees on most of the time so don't even see them. One of my farms is mostly covered with trees and you can't even harvest with them on. The orginial has about 140 on top of a portion of the crops so they need to be off to get it all done.

I've read the box, knew I was getting hired to do both crops and trees and totally forgotten about it by the time I'm done harvesting because they aren't on. And, I hire two people to harvest on each of my farms 3 to 5 times a day and I get questions about trees every day....can they do them or why can't they do them. So, I know there's still some confusion even after all this time.

I've also inadvertantly clicked the wrong hire option. Usually they never touch the trees. But, I also tend to hire the more aggressive job hunters. They tend to want to get right to the plowing as soon as possible.

I don't think it's b.s. to ask someone about the trees if you want to do them or you want them done. It's just common courtesy. It eliminates confusion.

Anyway, the original reason for responding was the "babysitting" comment.

I hire from the MP way more than the average player and my experiences have been, overall, very, very good.

Connection issues can be a problem. Communicaton can be a problem sometimes...I can't tell you how many people I've hired who didn't have great command of the English language. I've hired people from all over Europe, Asia and Australia and every part of the US.

I never expect my next hire to be my new best friend, but I have made some friends there.

I hire only to get the work done and to get them and me some points and coins.

I tend to hire the more aggressive job seekers, but never those that flood the chat box.

I have rarely had issues but stuff happens. I spent an extra 20 minutes the other day with a woman with connection problems getting her to refresh and rehiring her so she could finish plowing and get the points. If I hadn't been there I would have come back to an unfinished job and thought she got booted. I would have never thought she was a slacker that didn't finish the job. I would have assumed connection issues and I'd have been right.

JAS0643
Mar 26 2010, 02:22 PM
I don't think it's b.s. to ask someone about the trees if you want to do them or you want them done. It's just common courtesy. It eliminates confusion.



I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree on this because the two hiring options take care of any confusion as to do people want trees done, if they don't want their trees done then either hire the right way or if you hit the wrong thing say something when you get to your farm. If I was hired to do trees but the farmer said sorry I hit the wrong thing will you not do the threes I would respect that, but I'm not going to ask if it is okay on the off chance they hit the wrong option. I personally have always thought that it was BS for the person hired to ask if they can do trees. It is the person who does the hiring job to tell their employes that they don't want trees done. Everyone always thought it was an unwritten rule that EVERYONE in farm town knew and followed and got really pissed off when their trees where harvested even though they had not said one word about not harvesting them. In my opinion some of the tree huggers took the game way to seriously and still do.

Telegraphs
Mar 26 2010, 02:34 PM
I've just come across this debate and it's actually quite interesting, I've not considered it before. Unfortunately not everyone has the same opinion. People, so it seems, are stuck in their ways and don't harvest trees unless they're asked, this is what people did out of "courtesy" beforehand.

Now there's an option to harvest crops alone or crops and trees. People are still stuck in their old ways and don't bother with trees unless asked, some on the other hand take full advantage if there's trees and try to harvest them. If they've been hired to harvest both then it works well for the "employee" and the "employer". Unfortunately people's opinions vary and there will always be an argument from one side and an argument from the other, like you say JAS - I think this would be an agree to disagree situation, like most of the hiring and harvesting debates :p

Mexican Immigrant
Mar 26 2010, 04:10 PM
I don't hire people from the MP that say "plsssssssssssssssssss". I also avoid people that ask to plow or harvest only.

yesterday I even had people say they would only pick pineapple, lol. No way I'd hire them for anything.

JAS0643
Mar 27 2010, 02:07 AM
I don't hire people from the MP that say "plsssssssssssssssssss". I also avoid people that ask to plow or harvest only.

yesterday I even had people say they would only pick pineapple, lol. No way I'd hire them for anything.

I understand the plsssssssssssss and only pineapples, but keep this in mind about those that only want to harvest. Some people have enough coins and really only want the xps for plowing so they can advance in levels. Also there are some like me that are at level 80 (the last level) and don't need or want the xps for plowing so they only want to harvest. The people that say this up front are just letting you know what kind of work they are looking for and in my opinion are not being rude.

causingchaos
Mar 27 2010, 08:43 PM
I appreciate knowing who is there to harvest and who is there to plow. I can only hire to harvest since the vast majority of my friends abandoned this game. So it is completely pointless for me to hire someone who wants to plow to harvest.

MamaMootz
Mar 30 2010, 04:30 PM
I noticed just today how many people in the MP don't answer you when you type something in. All of this is rather foreign to me since I usually always say hi.

I was actually looking to hire someone to harvest and plow and people couldn't even say good morning to me. It's making me want to hire friends only and be done with the entire marketplace.

I did finally hire someone who got halfway done with my farm and vanished. I suspect the server timed out on her as her avatar stayed at my farm but it froze there. I went back to hire someone to finish the trees and plow and somehow hired 2.... and the minute they got to my farm they were asking plow? plow? which I thought was rude. I had to tell them 2 times to please finish the trees. And they still left a grove undone that I finally just did myself in frustration. Then they both plowed and didn't even say thank you.

I go to the marketplace to be hired at times, and only hope that my being courteous is giving me a good reputation that will make people want to hire me again.

I'm wondering what the right answer is as far as hiring people - I want to hire someone who pays attention to what I'm asking for and says thanks.

On the tree debate, I didn't realize it was bad manners to harvest them automatically or to ask before harvesting. I want to be sure that people who hire me get what they need done, which is why I will usually ask.

Ania
Mar 31 2010, 12:48 AM
Is anyone tired of being hired only to find theres 7 other people already on the farm working? I'm not complaining because its annoying and rude, I'm complaining because it slows down the game. It's even slower if some are harvesting and some are plowing.

When I go to the Marketplace to hire, I only hire ONE person to harvest and I ask them if they would like to plow as well.

What do you all do when you find several other people already on the farm working?

SunnyD
Mar 31 2010, 01:08 AM
LOL i say thanks for the job..... too many people here bye now..........

silvia8917
Mar 31 2010, 03:32 AM
It's definitely true that most people don't bother to answer questions. They just focus on putting forth their own advertisement. I haven't had much bad experience in hiring though. Even I don't get answers I leave and go to another market place. It's a little time consuming but I get satisfactory workers so far.

I always remind my employees to harvest my trees when I want them done. In my first farm I have a few fields hidden by trees, and I can immediately tell if someone's had their trees hidden just by observing whether they've harvested those fields. In the second farm there are so few trees that it's easy to overlook them even one doesn't have trees off. When I clearly state what I want I usually get what I wish, especially when I hire people who at least pay SOME attention to the chatting box in the first place.

When I'm hired I usually enter the farm, I will hide the trees if they cover some fields that need harvesting. I also always check whether the trees are harvestable before doing the fields. Then, after I do the fields, I always get my trees on again. It's partially done to double check if I've missed any trees, but mostly I just always play with my trees on. My farm simply looks hideous without trees and I can't stand that. :p

Lawanda
Mar 31 2010, 12:48 PM
I am having to use my old slow puter as newer one waiting for repairs. I tried working on another farm but by the time my slow dinasaur got me there the job was pretty much done. Apologized to farmer and she nicely said no problem would hire you when you can do the job. So figured could offer work to others as the capability of my computer should not affect them? First time nice job done. This morning offered work to two people, one never responded the other said yes and never showed up. Tried again and someone came did half the job and left. So after reading stuff on here this seems a common practice?? So I can assume its nothing to do with my computer or maybe my farm isnt big enough yet to interest them? I dont get it. Can someone help me out here, will continue to offer work if my puter isnt causing them a problem otherwise will just continue doing it myself for now. Thanks

HelenJS22
Apr 01 2010, 07:02 AM
I've just come to make an observation that has been reinforced to me tonight in the market place. There have been various posts regarding 'rude' people who don't accept an invitation to work on your farm when they are clicked on. The complaint is that they don't accept, don't decline and 'rudely ignore' the invitation.

My point is that this is not always the case. I have just been working from the market place. As usual I turned up and greeted the group with 'good evening everyone' and within seconds I had been sent three offers of employment. They all came hot foot on top of one another and so quickly that by the time I clicked it was on the third offer which was on the front of the pile of requests. The way the market works only allows us under these circumstances to click on the front request and gives us no way to explain to the previous two what happened and that I was not being rude.

This has happened on numerous occasions, and I always feel bad about the first two people who tried to hire me .... but there is nothing I can do to get back to them because I didn't even get a chance to see their names. So, please understand that this can easily happen and that all is not always as it seems.

baickle
Apr 02 2010, 01:33 PM
Hi all,
I've been searching and searching the forums but can't find any information on the double hire for plowing practice. What exactly does it do and does it effect the person doing the hiring? ie, exp points or costs?

Pam the Farm girl
Apr 02 2010, 01:45 PM
It has no effect on exp points or costs. All it does is get rid of the red square the plower sees on the crop. This makes it a little easier to plow some say. I don't even notice a difference, but that may be due to the way I plow (machine gun style down a row without focusing on a specific square).

Hi all,
I've been searching and searching the forums but can't find any information on the double hire for plowing practice. What exactly does it do and does it effect the person doing the hiring? ie, exp points or costs?

Aunt Lucy
Apr 03 2010, 03:27 PM
Seems the latest dirty deed is to hire someone to harvest your full-size farm planted in raspberries. You get to the last few plots and up pops the eagerly awaited 'plow request', so you blindly click on it. Off you go to another farm that is totally planted or basically covered in cased off Christmas decorations and trees. Nothing there for you to do!!
And you sit and wait ~ cuz you know that you were just harvesting along side this person a moment ago.....! Oh wait, that's the game.
If they get you to do all the dirty work at the cheap rate of raspberries, and then ditch you onto another useless farm, all the plowing is for them. And, it's the high rankers that are doing it.
Third time this week, not just a random thing. As I"m not use to reporting stupid people, I usually just leave them a note letting them know THAT I know what they did. They never reply back......funny eh!!!
I need to start looking for that abuse button!! Rather tired of this nonsense!
Happy Easter everyone! That's my rant for the day!!! LOL
Aunt Lucy

causingchaos
Apr 03 2010, 04:33 PM
They don't have to hire to you plow after you harvest any crop. When you are hired to harvest you are hired to do just that harvest regardless of what the crop is. If you are not happy about how much it pays leave the farm and go back to the market place...

There are many players who can't hire people to plow due to not having enough neighbors as well.

Personally, if I was sent to another farm for "plowing" and there was nothing there to plow I would have just left instead of having a fit about it. It is just a game after all.

prettyponies
Apr 04 2010, 10:29 AM
...within seconds I had been sent three offers of employment. They all came hot foot on top of one another and so quickly that by the time I clicked it was on the third offer which was on the front of the pile of requests. The way the market works only allows us under these circumstances to click on the front request and gives us no way to explain to the previous two what happened and that I was not being rude.

This has happened on numerous occasions, and I always feel bad about the first two people who tried to hire me .... but there is nothing I can do to get back to them because I didn't even get a chance to see their names. So, please understand that this can easily happen and that all is not always as it seems...

Same here. When I used to go to the market, I would politely ask if I can help anyone at their farm...and within seconds I'd be hit by a flood of hires flashing on my screen, trampling one another in their frenzy to hire me before I can even blink.

I learned that if I was asking for plowing, and the last hire was a harvest, I would simply have my avatar state that I was looking for plowing ONLY...and then wait. Invariably, I would see a previously bumped plowing hire reappear on my screen...and then I will snatch it.

Or, if the flood was really overwhelming, I would announce a thank you to all the people trying to hire me, and say I got a job. Only then would I click on the final hire.

Figure it is just good manners.

But.....I no longer hire at the Market. With all my facilities, I'm finding the price of crops is irrelevant when using them to process other goods. So....I'm using my neighbors and my own labor (with machines) to harvest and plow now. Making better money, and so are my neighbors who share in my bounty.

Not sure if making self harvest/plow just as cost effective as hiring was intentional on the part of the devs ...or not. But it has changed the way I play the game. Now I only go to the market to sell, not to hire.

Mr. H
Apr 05 2010, 08:55 PM
They don't have to hire to you plow after you harvest any crop. When you are hired to harvest you are hired to do just that harvest regardless of what the crop is. If you are not happy about how much it pays leave the farm and go back to the market place...

There are many players who can't hire people to plow due to not having enough neighbors as well.

Personally, if I was sent to another farm for "plowing" and there was nothing there to plow I would have just left instead of having a fit about it. It is just a game after all.

They can't hire you to plow unless there is something there to plow. Now, it might be only one field but the game won't let you hire someone if there isn't something to do.

Mr. H
Apr 05 2010, 08:58 PM
I've just come to make an observation that has been reinforced to me tonight in the market place. There have been various posts regarding 'rude' people who don't accept an invitation to work on your farm when they are clicked on. The complaint is that they don't accept, don't decline and 'rudely ignore' the invitation.

My point is that this is not always the case. I have just been working from the market place. As usual I turned up and greeted the group with 'good evening everyone' and within seconds I had been sent three offers of employment. They all came hot foot on top of one another and so quickly that by the time I clicked it was on the third offer which was on the front of the pile of requests. The way the market works only allows us under these circumstances to click on the front request and gives us no way to explain to the previous two what happened and that I was not being rude.

This has happened on numerous occasions, and I always feel bad about the first two people who tried to hire me .... but there is nothing I can do to get back to them because I didn't even get a chance to see their names. So, please understand that this can easily happen and that all is not always as it seems.

You're exactly right.

I've had it happen a couple of times that I was there to hire someone and when I was about to click on the box to go with them another box popped up over the top and before I knew it I was off to harvest for someone.

medixgrad
Apr 06 2010, 02:07 PM
I get offers on top of offers alot. I never know where I'm going. I think I accepted a harvesting job on Jane's farm only to find myself plowing on Bob's farm because as I clicked on Jane's offer Bob's offer came up in front of it.

I think the first offer that comes in should cancel out other offers and maybe a pop up could appear with the chosen avatar in it saying. Thanks but I've accepted another job or something along that line, so others don't think they are being ignored etc...

me0716
Apr 06 2010, 04:48 PM
Is there a way to fire some one who is on your farm working? I had a girl plowing for me today and she was so greedy that she was fighting me for my own farm.

causingchaos
Apr 07 2010, 07:10 AM
How do you mean fighting you for your farm? You hired her to plow? Was she plowing? Why hire someone to plow if you want to do it yourself?

me0716
Apr 07 2010, 12:09 PM
I no longer seen her so I figured she had left. So I was going to finish the job by myself. Then she reappeared.

Deanna J. Lloyd
Apr 11 2010, 06:58 AM
Hi all,
I've been searching and searching the forums but can't find any information on the double hire for plowing practice. What exactly does it do and does it effect the person doing the hiring? ie, exp points or costs?

When you're hired to plow, your "tool" is a red/green grid the size and shape of a single field. It will turn green when you are aligned with a field and you can click. You don't have to be perfectly aligned for it to work, but many of us find it slow and annoying.

If you are hired a second time, the grid disappears and you are left with a pointer/arrow/whatever your cursor is. You simply point at an area of the field, click, and it's plowed. Much faster and easier to do.

The effect on the person doing the hiring? Usually, a more thorough job done in record time. Therefore, you're ready to replant sooner and earn those XPs sooner!:) It's a win/win.

One word of caution: If you have two or more people you are going to hire to plow, either double hire both or don't double hire at all. Double-hiring only one gives them an unfair advantage.

Deanna J. Lloyd
Apr 11 2010, 07:28 AM
.. I went back to hire someone to finish the trees and plow and somehow hired 2.... and the minute they got to my farm they were asking plow? plow? which I thought was rude. I had to tell them 2 times to please finish the trees. And they still left a grove undone that I finally just did myself in frustration. Then they both plowed and didn't even say thank you. . . .

I'm wondering what the right answer is as far as hiring people - I want to hire someone who pays attention to what I'm asking for and says thanks.

:) MamaMootz, how is it that these rude, non-responsive people were able to plow your farm? You are under no obligation to hire someone to plow -- ever! If they do a thorough job harvesting for you and pay attention to what you ask, then certainly I would want to hire them to plow -- because I would expect a thorough job plowing. Also, almost everyone eventually wants XPs, so hiring them rewards good behavior.

As far as hiring someone who pays attention to what you're asking and says, "Thanks", you can tell a lot by how they behave in the Marketplace. I have taken to announcing what I am hiring for, e.g., large crop of peppers, and then watching the chat box to see if someone responds. I look for them to use my name or say something about the peppers, so I know they've read what I wrote. Those are the people I hire!

I also look for people who interact with others in the MP. Saying hello to someone they recognize, asking how the weather is where people are, etc. -- just making small talk. I do it myself, and I'm rarely in the MP for more than 20-30 seconds. And if I am there longer, I will usually start making funny comments to liven things up. I've been known to "hit on" handsome avatars, which frequently starts a lively interchange with other "women" chiming in with their own opinions.

It's a game, so have fun. Ignore the people who fill the screen with begging or who do crazy things with their names so they hog the chat box. They will get hired by some, but not by me. I use good manners in the MP, and I reward those who do the same. I have six full-size farms under two different accounts, so eventually, people figure out how to behave to get hired by me. :cool:

eljae
Apr 14 2010, 02:09 PM
I get offers on top of offers alot. I never know where I'm going. I think I accepted a harvesting job on Jane's farm only to find myself plowing on Bob's farm because as I clicked on Jane's offer Bob's offer came up in front of it.

I think the first offer that comes in should cancel out other offers and maybe a pop up could appear with the chosen avatar in it saying. Thanks but I've accepted another job or something along that line, so others don't think they are being ignored etc...

I came to the forums to ask about this very same thing. Three times today I've responded to someone who was hiring and as soon as he/she sent me a hire request 2 or 3 more popped up on top of it. I've learned from experience that if you click off one, it cancels them all. I'm starting to wonder if this is a "clever" way to send potential "competition" out of the MP (and make them look rude on top of it.)

All three times today I was able to PM the original person to resend the hire request, but it's just silly that I have to.

Thoughts?

Deanna J. Lloyd
Apr 14 2010, 04:34 PM
The cascade of offers makes me crazy too! I may be in the MP for a minute or more & no one offers to hire me. Then, for reasons unknown, I am bombarded with offers with no chance to actually choose which one I am accepting.

Would it be possible for the developers to build in a 5 second delay before the next hire pops up? And a queue for the offers. That way, we would have time to accept or reject each offer in the order received.

Duck Duck Goose
Apr 14 2010, 06:32 PM
I only hire 1 neighbor to do my entire farm. Why hire 6 ppl so that all 6 make like 50 bucks? Screw that. It's not worth working a job if you have to share it with 3 or 4 other ppl.

I'm not in THAT big of a stinkin hurry that I need 1/2 of farmtown to work my farm.

People certainly can run thier farm anyway they see fit, but personally if I'm hired and i get to the farm only to find 3 other ppl already there, then i say

"Thanks but no thanks. You already have too much help", and then I leave.
I dont care if it's raspberries or pineapples. I wont work with multiple ppl.
Whats my incentive? - 50 bucks? yea right.......

We all know the server sucks on this game as it is. Multiple ppl working the same farm only increases the chance you'll get timed out on the server.

If you dont have time to wait on 1 person, then you obviously dont have time to play the game at all. Besides its not the person's slowness - its the crappy server speed.

I bet the person that just made 100000 off my pineapples are much more willing to stay the whole job than any 1 of a multiple workforce employee.
Solo work allows for work to be done neatly and in straight lines.
1/2 of farmtown working for you leads to workers RACING each other to get more than the next guy so it might be worth it more than it is.

Ok I said my piece. I'm just ticked because it's almost impossible to get any money and points out of the marketplace because there are too many of these bad hiring practices, that I dont even bother going there anymore.
If you can't make it worth my while then do it yourself or hire somebody else....

eljae
Apr 14 2010, 07:42 PM
The cascade of offers makes me crazy too! I may be in the MP for a minute or more & no one offers to hire me. Then, for reasons unknown, I am bombarded with offers with no chance to actually choose which one I am accepting.

Would it be possible for the developers to build in a 5 second delay before the next hire pops up? And a queue for the offers. That way, we would have time to accept or reject each offer in the order received.

I actually think it would be better if these windows weren't on top of each other at all. Each offer should have it's own separate window so you can filter through to find the one you want when this kind of thing happens.

eljae
Apr 14 2010, 07:47 PM
I only hire 1 neighbor to do my entire farm. Why hire 6 ppl so that all 6 make like 50 bucks? Screw that. It's not worth working a job if you have to share it with 3 or 4 other ppl.

I'm not in THAT big of a stinkin hurry that I need 1/2 of farmtown to work my farm.

I don't mind working with 2 or 3 other ppl on a large job as long as everyone can mind their manners. What I don't like are ppl who have to step all over me while I'm trying to work. More than once I've gone to my own little corner to harvest or plow and someone will come up right on top of me to harvest or plow when it's not necessary. I'll more to a different corner and they follow me. Or I'll realize that I'm going across the field and the other person is going up and down, so I'll switch to up and down so we're not in each other's way and then they switch to across.

I've had situations like that that I've just quit, thanked the farmer and left. Not worth my time or my aggravation.

Worked with a lady today, though, that was so nice I added her to my buddy list for my large crop of sugar cane due later in the day.

krbrown2000
Apr 15 2010, 10:29 AM
I put this in the hiring practices thread, because it's kind of about hiring...sorry if it's the wrong place.

But when you post the wall thing about work being available in your facilities, do you get any kind of notification when someone actually works in your facilities? Either you don't get notified, or my neighbors aren't very helpful. I've posted a couple of times and never know whether someone has actually worked or not.

JAS0643
Apr 15 2010, 01:34 PM
I put this in the hiring practices thread, because it's kind of about hiring...sorry if it's the wrong place.

But when you post the wall thing about work being available in your facilities, do you get any kind of notification when someone actually works in your facilities? Either you don't get notified, or my neighbors aren't very helpful. I've posted a couple of times and never know whether someone has actually worked or not.

If you are logged into farm town at the time you will see JAS worked in your chocolate factory, like you do when someone harvest a crop for you. Other then that you get no official notice. Some of my friends will click the like button on the wall post or make a comment so I know they worked in the facilities. I can see where it might be nice to get a notice but I don't want any more pop ups or messages sent to me. Now something you could suggest in the Feedback and Suggestion section is an option for people to receive emails when a person works in a facility. That way the people that might like to have them can get them but people like me can opt not to receive the emails.

krbrown2000
Apr 15 2010, 03:50 PM
Good idea! Thanks!

Now something you could suggest in the Feedback and Suggestion section is an option for people to receive emails when a person works in a facility. That way the people that might like to have them can get them but people like me can opt not to receive the emails.

cjbtaft
Apr 20 2010, 10:19 PM
When can you plow? do you have to be at a certain level or have a certain amount of neighbors

Hessel
Apr 24 2010, 05:09 PM
I posted this on another thread, but I think this would be a good idea and wanted to share it with others. It seems lately there are more and more players who bail out of a job before it is done, leaving crops and or plowing not finished. Some just leave a few squares, other players leave a LOT. Some bail out before they even start if they dont like what you have to pick.

I think it would be great to add a pop up item to rate the employee after the employee leaves. Having a numerical rating beside the players ID would be good for players who go to the marketplace to hire someone. This way you would know what your getting, and when hiring a lower rated hire, you could hire an extra worker to make sure the job is done correctly. Also, this would discourage those players who tend to accept a job and then bail out early.

Some peeps post that they want to work alone. I dont mind hiring someone who does good work and wait for them to finish. All to often these days though players bail out on you.

jess mc
Apr 24 2010, 05:20 PM
I posted this on another thread, but I think this would be a good idea and wanted to share it with others. It seems lately there are more and more players who bail out of a job before it is done, leaving crops and or plowing not finished. Some just leave a few squares, other players leave a LOT. Some bail out before they even start if they dont like what you have to pick.

I think it would be great to add a pop up item to rate the employee after the employee leaves. Having a numerical rating beside the players ID would be good for players who go to the marketplace to hire someone. This way you would know what your getting, and when hiring a lower rated hire, you could hire an extra worker to make sure the job is done correctly. Also, this would discourage those players who tend to accept a job and then bail out early.

Some peeps post that they want to work alone. I dont mind hiring someone who does good work and wait for them to finish. All to often these days though players bail out on you.

I think it would be an unfair process. How do you know if the person has left on there on own steam and not just been timed out or disconnected by the server? They have no way back to your farm so rating really would not be fair as some farmers could be rated low when it was really not there fault.

Charo
Apr 24 2010, 05:50 PM
I don't hire any greedy person who only wants to work alone. If that happens by accident, I sure as heck will make sure that they have company.

eljae
Apr 24 2010, 07:12 PM
I posted this on another thread, but I think this would be a good idea and wanted to share it with others. It seems lately there are more and more players who bail out of a job before it is done, leaving crops and or plowing not finished. Some just leave a few squares, other players leave a LOT. Some bail out before they even start if they dont like what you have to pick.

I think it would be great to add a pop up item to rate the employee after the employee leaves. Having a numerical rating beside the players ID would be good for players who go to the marketplace to hire someone. This way you would know what your getting, and when hiring a lower rated hire, you could hire an extra worker to make sure the job is done correctly. Also, this would discourage those players who tend to accept a job and then bail out early.

Some peeps post that they want to work alone. I dont mind hiring someone who does good work and wait for them to finish. All to often these days though players bail out on you.

I agree and disagree. There are lots of ppl who have connection issues. I had a really good worker yesterday who did. Fortunately she told me before she got dc'd and I buddied her so she could make her way back. Which she did and finished the job. Then right after her the guy I hired to plow came in, plowed three plots and left without a word. I don't know if he got dc'd or just left. (Although I suspect he just left.) It'd be a tough call to rate an employee due to the dc issues, but at the same time I know there are ppl who decide they don't like the job once they get there and leave.

♫Tiki♫
Apr 24 2010, 07:20 PM
I posted this on another thread, but I think this would be a good idea and wanted to share it with others. It seems lately there are more and more players who bail out of a job before it is done, leaving crops and or plowing not finished. Some just leave a few squares, other players leave a LOT. Some bail out before they even start if they dont like what you have to pick.

I think it would be great to add a pop up item to rate the employee after the employee leaves. Having a numerical rating beside the players ID would be good for players who go to the marketplace to hire someone. This way you would know what your getting, and when hiring a lower rated hire, you could hire an extra worker to make sure the job is done correctly. Also, this would discourage those players who tend to accept a job and then bail out early.

Some peeps post that they want to work alone. I dont mind hiring someone who does good work and wait for them to finish. All to often these days though players bail out on you.

This is a good idea! But about those who leave job before done, problem might be in the game: few times happened when i plowed my neighbours farm that when I reloaded game and came back to her farm i saw few unplowed areas which I was sure i plowed, so what I want to say, not always are workers fault. Personaly I dont like when person starts harvesting without any order that shows me that would be a messy plower too :rolleyes:

medixgrad
Apr 24 2010, 07:21 PM
I posted this on another thread, but I think this would be a good idea and wanted to share it with others. It seems lately there are more and more players who bail out of a job before it is done, leaving crops and or plowing not finished. Some just leave a few squares, other players leave a LOT. Some bail out before they even start if they dont like what you have to pick.

I think it would be great to add a pop up item to rate the employee after the employee leaves. Having a numerical rating beside the players ID would be good for players who go to the marketplace to hire someone. This way you would know what your getting, and when hiring a lower rated hire, you could hire an extra worker to make sure the job is done correctly. Also, this would discourage those players who tend to accept a job and then bail out early.

Some peeps post that they want to work alone. I dont mind hiring someone who does good work and wait for them to finish. All to often these days though players bail out on you.
I have that problem alot too, people "bailing out" on me and leaving my farm half harvested or half plowed. Some of those people are probably lazy or not interested in harvesting a low paying crop but some have reason for leaving in a hurry. I had an emergency Thursday while harvesting for someone. I had to drop everything and take my husband to the hospital because he fell and broke his hand. That's why I don't think a rating system is a good idea because someone might have a legitimate reason for walking off the job.

RN2GO
Apr 24 2010, 09:01 PM
I don't think a rating system would be very fair. I "bailed" on a good job the other day because my internet connection went down. Even if I had an easy way back it took me about half an hour to repair my connection.

I do leave jobs that are overstaffed. I usually say something about the overstaffing, but not always. I play on several computers, but even the fastest slows to a crawl with too many workers (or too many animals). I'll work my clicking finger off on a difficult job - I get every tree (if hired to do trees), every field, but I won't crawl along on a farm overloaded with workers for a few coins or XPs.

MaryLouW
Apr 25 2010, 03:23 AM
It really ticks me when people are rude when harvesting or plowing and one person keeps jumping in front of others to grab what they can. When I am working on someone's farm and a rude person does that to me, I make sure they know I felt it was rude, I also note their name, and I make darn sure I never hire that person.

A lot of people plant their farm in little squares. If someone is working in that square, the other workers should just back off and let that person finish the square. Everyone isn't a speed demon and it's unfair for those that are to jump in that square and grab the half a dozen squares that are left.

There.. now I've got that off my chest, I think I'll go find a plowing job!!

lano
Apr 25 2010, 10:45 PM
I've been FarmTowning it for a year now and pretty much seen it all.

I hire exactly how I myself like to be hired which is:

One person on each farm to harvest with an offer of ploughing after. I ask if they want the work for themselves or need help. 100% of the time they're happy to work on their own (I can relate to that).

I plant crops that I myself enjoy harvesting, in other words high yield crops such as pineapples, cotton, peppers etc.

If I want to level up, I plant raspberries and harvest myself then offer the ploughing at the MP to people with good manners standing around the edges keeping themselves to themselves. The only 'test' I'm interested in, is whether people have good manners or not.

With regards to silly little games people play - Example: Was hired yesterday with 4 others to harvest 3 trees then got told to stop standing there and hop to it LOL - Seriously, I left laughing. Some people are too sad and pathetic to get mad at, they really are.

From an employee point of view. I'll happily do any work that I'm hired to do be it trees, grapes, ploughing etc etc. I actually like the element of surprise especially when it's a big field of pineapples - Aren't they the best?

I would NEVER stand in the MP and state 'solo plough only' or 'don't do trees' or 'only harvest pineapples' - I'm sure progression in the game with that attitude is slowwwww.

Best way to get hired is to clearly state that you're available for work once every 2 or 3 minutes.

As far as glitches go, I've been booted by the server that many times I've lost count and then felt really guilty that the hirer may have thought I just left without saying thank you - But what can you do when it's not your fault? When my farm is half harvested/ploughed I just think it's a shame they lost the work because of the server.

I've also left farms where other employees are being down right rude by moving in on a patch that I'm clearly methodically working - There's no need for it.

Got in a squabble only once with a lady who ploughed a divide line down the ahem "middle" of a field. I counted the rows, the ratio was 18:13 in her favour. I knew she'd laid out a boundry that I WASN'T to cross so when my 13 rows were ploughed I crossed it to see if she'd say something. Sure enough, she soon started to complain so I just ignored her, ploughed two more rows, said thank you to the nice farmer and left...:rolleyes:

I've learnt that you have to take this game with a very big pinch of salt. If people behave in a way that you don't like, either walk away or put them on ignore. Simples.

Very sound indeed!

However, as far as Raspberries go, most of the good folk on my buddy list are more than willing to harvest them for me. I send them a msg stating I only have raspberries and ask if they are keen - almost all of the time they are at my farm in a flash. When I do plant raspberries, you can guarantee I have planted all three of my farms full and ask my kind helper if they want all three to themselves (to hopefully make it worth their while) - again, almost all the time they are keen to do so. If they are not keen, for whatever reason, I do not hold it against them and let them know that. If they are a little slow, I have no gripe either; the way I see it, they are doing ME the favour!

These good folk I talk of BTW, are always first on my list when I have a higher yielding crop.

If none of my buddies are online, then I look for folk at the MP to hire. I state clearly that I have Raspberries and ask if anyone is willing. The first person to show that they have read my request (use my name, say they dont mind Raspberries, are polite, etc) gets the job. In fact, this is how I make half my buddies in the first place - keen, polite folk who are more than happy to help regardless of the yield. Generally I am not concerned about a workers speed or their level or even whether they chat or not (if they want to chat, I'll chat, if not, I leave them to it). If they get in and get the job done without any fuss and are polite, most of the time I will add them to my buddy list so I can offer them a higher yielding crop when I have one.

That all being said, unfortunately as of late, the MP has been *very* buggy for me and approx. 90% of the time I am not seeing most of the people there or their names in my chat box, so I will look for those who stand there flooding the chat box with their begging (only the full on beggers though - i.e. those who relentlessly flood the chat box and/or use foul language and insults) and hire 3 or 4 of them at a time. If they are that desperate to work, they really shouldn't mind sharing even the smallest of yield, should they....?

MaryLouW
Apr 25 2010, 11:31 PM
I've been playing FT for about 2 months now and find it to be highly addictive! I love to harvest and plow and I find the very best times to get hired are the wee hours of the morning (Pacific time) - like between 3-5am. I haven't had a single problem getting hired. I've reached level 80 and have my third farm and a ton of money and it took a whole lot of jobs to get it all.

If someone is obviously working in a given area, I dont' go near them.. let them finish what they started. But, I too have noticed that as of late, people tend to leave 5-8 unplowed plots or a group unharvested crops or trees. I end up doing them myself. They don't check before they leave to make sure it's done.

One farm I plowed, I no more than got there when he wanted to put me in his buddy list. He said if I should get booted out, I could get back to him via the buddy list and be rehired. I thought that was a rather nice idea.

I would really like to see the levels of people before I hire. I'd like to give some of the newer ones the same opportunities that some people gave me but it seems that everyone I hire is 76-80. I don't care if they're fast or slow as long as they are not rude. One lady told me to get the he-double L out of there and that she was going to do the whole job by herself. Well... it sort of hit me the wrong way and I reminded her that I too was hired and that I intended to stay. Will have to say, she later apologized and said she was having a bad hair day.

I've some people plow faster than I can blink my eyes. How do they do that? Is there a special gaming joy stick or mouse? I can't imagine any mouse holding up very long under someone clicking that fast.

Bottom line, it's a fun game but harder than heck to get neighbors so you can get gifts and such.

Cozie
Apr 26 2010, 10:46 AM
When I have a huge crop of pineapples ready, I like to go to the marketplace and ask "who would like to harvest a huge field of rasberries all to him/herself?" And whoever says yes, I hire that farmer, and then he or she gets a pleasant surprise when they get to my farm.

krbrown2000
Apr 26 2010, 12:56 PM
I think you've hired me before, LOL! At least that has happened to me before.

When I have a huge crop of pineapples ready, I like to go to the marketplace and ask "who would like to harvest a huge field of rasberries all to him/herself?" And whoever says yes, I hire that farmer, and then he or she gets a pleasant surprise when they get to my farm.

deelberger
Apr 26 2010, 08:08 PM
I think my biggest peeve is how rude ppl are in the marketplace who are looking for work...they'll jump right in front of you and type the word please with 100 letters in it...I find that just finding a spot a bit away from the crowd and waiting patiently gets me hired 99% of the time. And, when hired, I will do whatever the person who hired me needs done, no more, no less and most importantly, NO WHINING! I'm just grateful to get hired...period. I don't ask if they want me to harvest trees, because my thought is if they did, they would have asked me to. I also will finish the job I start. I've had a few ppl that I hired leave in the middle of harvesting. My farm is pretty straightforward, with few buildings or other items. I'm pretty low level so far and am using most of my space for crops so it's very easy to harvest/plow my farm. I don't have a lot of barriers to get around, etc. We really do need to get back to basic ettiquette though...if you don't like something, that's fine, it's your opinion, but don't blast me, b/c I have just as much right to mine and to do what I feel like doing where MY farm is concerned...period. Thanks for listening...I appreciate it!

Deanna

deelberger
Apr 26 2010, 08:19 PM
I posted this on another thread, but I think this would be a good idea and wanted to share it with others. It seems lately there are more and more players who bail out of a job before it is done, leaving crops and or plowing not finished. Some just leave a few squares, other players leave a LOT. Some bail out before they even start if they dont like what you have to pick.

I think it would be great to add a pop up item to rate the employee after the employee leaves. Having a numerical rating beside the players ID would be good for players who go to the marketplace to hire someone. This way you would know what your getting, and when hiring a lower rated hire, you could hire an extra worker to make sure the job is done correctly. Also, this would discourage those players who tend to accept a job and then bail out early.

Some peeps post that they want to work alone. I dont mind hiring someone who does good work and wait for them to finish. All to often these days though players bail out on you.

I don't think it would be a good idea b/c I my get a lower rating for a few reasons...

1. I don't do a lot of jobs b/c I am currently working on a project that takes me away from the games and

2. I've lost my connection and was unable to get back in very quickly, or there's a glitch within FT itself and it tells my my game is out of sync, etc.

3. I had a bit of an emergency a few nights ago when I was working a farm...I was close to finishing but I had to get up quickly for about 10 mins. When I came back, the work was done and I felt awful about not finishing.

Do some ppl just leave b/c they're rude? Of course, but not all of us are and I wouldn't want anyone who wasn't being rude to be penalized.

Thanks for listening!

Deanna
Level 33

MaryLouW
Apr 26 2010, 08:32 PM
I would like the market place to have a few more options. If you go there looking for people to work, It would be nice if you could go in as invisible in that your avatar wouldn't show.

The reason for this is, I can't count how many times I have tried to hire someone only to get the "No Thanks" message. If the only avatars you saw there were ones who came looking for work, it would be so much nicer. You'd KNOW they were there to work and not to hire.

One problem I have is, when hiring, you cannot see the names of people because they are hidden behind someone. If they can create objects that didn't overlap, such as the river parts, they could surely make avatars that didn't overlap. One night, there was a very rude person who jumped from one person to the next so he/she would cover over the other person. Very annoying.

And one more thing that annoys me. Someone asks if you want to plow for them.. you attempt to reply to the popup, but in the meantime 2-3 other people have attempted to hire you too and you lose out on the job you really wanted. They overlay one another before you have a chance to respond.

I think that's all my gripes... for now! :)

bitango1
Apr 27 2010, 11:41 AM
I dislike the idea of a higher level player who you have hired to "harvest and plow" your farm refusing to plow after taking the job as posted. I was told they dont plow because they dont want to lower level player getting exp points for thier plowing! In the inverse why would I hire anyone to harvest and plow and expect only half the job be done? A fire button would be nice. I like to be able to offer the plow job to them after they harvested and had done a good job. I try to get along with everyone but some people "gramps lvl 80" just abuse the hiring process and need to be fired when manipulating that process in a selfserving non social manner.
"i a level 80 pts do e no good so i don't pkow so others can get the points abd advance"
This is a note he sent me when pressed about not plowing...

deelberger
Apr 27 2010, 03:36 PM
I would like the market place to have a few more options. If you go there looking for people to work, It would be nice if you could go in as invisible in that your avatar wouldn't show.

The reason for this is, I can't count how many times I have tried to hire someone only to get the "No Thanks" message. If the only avatars you saw there were ones who came looking for work, it would be so much nicer. You'd KNOW they were there to work and not to hire.

One problem I have is, when hiring, you cannot see the names of people because they are hidden behind someone. If they can create objects that didn't overlap, such as the river parts, they could surely make avatars that didn't overlap. One night, there was a very rude person who jumped from one person to the next so he/she would cover over the other person. Very annoying.

And one more thing that annoys me. Someone asks if you want to plow for them.. you attempt to reply to the popup, but in the meantime 2-3 other people have attempted to hire you too and you lose out on the job you really wanted. They overlay one another before you have a chance to respond.

I think that's all my gripes... for now! :)

I agree 100% with everything you said!!!!

JAS0643
Apr 27 2010, 03:56 PM
I dislike the idea of a higher level player who you have hired to "harvest and plow" your farm refusing to plow after taking the job as posted.

There is not harvest and plow option when hiring. If you are stating in the mp that you are looking for someone to harvest and plow and a person say I would like to harvest and plow for you then doesn't want to plow because they don't want the xps I can understand your anger. If on the other hand you are hiring people to harvest and plan to give them the plowing after but have not said one word before hand then you have nothing to be upset about. I will accept harvesting jobs in the mp but at level 80 I do not need or want a plowing job so I will decline them when offered. That said I would never say "I would be happy to harvest and plow for you" If I know up front you want one person for both I will not accept your job offer.

ReinaB
Apr 27 2010, 05:00 PM
<rant>
I'm fairly easy going I think. I do any job I'm hired for. I don't make a lot of demands. I'm not really insistent on the trees. Eventually someone will harvest them and the ones I need for facilities I hoard anyway so I don't care if they're large or not. I'll pick them and use them when I need them. So when I hire my wants are really rather few. Harvest the fields and I'll hire you to plow. I usually will say so after the person starts harvesting unless they do something to annoy me. What annoys me? Bugging me to plow before the harvesting is done.

I don't usually give people a chance to actually ask because I will actually tell the person that they can plow if they want when they're done. But today I had someone come on my farm, harvest maybe 20 eggplant then ask about plowing. What were they going to plow? Between all the crops on the farm there was only 20 spaces to plow and that was the 20 crops the person harvested before they started bugging me about plowing. I don't think it's too much to ask for someone to not ask about plowing when they know **** well there won't be any plowing if the harvesting is not done. Sheesh!

</rant>

MaryLouW
Apr 27 2010, 05:45 PM
I have a question on the hiring process. When you select a person to hire, the options on the popup menu are:

Hire to Harvest At Your Farm
Hire to Harvest Crops At Your Farm

What is the difference in these two? Why would you pick one option over the other?

JAS0643
Apr 27 2010, 06:04 PM
I have a question on the hiring process. When you select a person to hire, the options on the popup menu are:

Hire to Harvest At Your Farm
Hire to Harvest Crops At Your Farm

What is the difference in these two? Why would you pick one option over the other?

Hire to harvest lets people harvest everything that is ready.
Hire to harvest crops let people harvest only crops, they can't harvest the trees.

Some people don't want their trees harvested which is why they have the two hiring options.

MaryLouW
Apr 27 2010, 06:20 PM
Thanks for the reply! Now it makes sense. I always use the second option and wondered why no one bothered my trees but often, I would be working for someone else and they would ask me to do the trees.

I appreciate the answer!!

Another question... most of the time, when I am hired to work for someone, another person is also working. When they start, especially when plowing, they go across the field diagonally rather than row at a time. Is there some advantage in doing it that way?

And... what is the best mouse or other device to use to increase your plowing speed? Mine is on the slow side and of course, I am totally run over by the speed demons.

JAS0643
Apr 27 2010, 06:29 PM
Thanks for the reply! Now it makes sense. I always use the second option and wondered why no one bothered my trees but often, I would be working for someone else and they would ask me to do the trees.

I appreciate the answer!!

Another question... most of the time, when I am hired to work for someone, another person is also working. When they start, especially when plowing, they go across the field diagonally rather than row at a time. Is there some advantage in doing it that way?

And... what is the best mouse or other device to use to increase your plowing speed? Mine is on the slow side and of course, I am totally run over by the speed demons.

What direction you harvest or plow in doesn't matter as long as you are going in straight rows or columns one way isn't any faster then the other. Now as for the mouse if you are using a lab top I would get a wireless mouse instead of using the built in mouse it will be faster, other then that I don't think the mouse makes much difference unless it is old and doesn't work right. Now for the speed demons well some people are just really fast and others well I can't say much on that but look at this thread it might explain some things. http://www.slashkey.com/forum/showthread.php?t=210470

MaryLouW
Apr 27 2010, 06:40 PM
Thank you again!!! I guess I'll just have to learn to click faster!! I do have a wireless mouse for my laptop - maybe I need to feed it a better brand of cheese!

I appreciate the answers to some of my dumb questions! :) As a rule, there are others who have the same questions but are too shy to ask. Shyness has never been a habit of mine.

bitango1
Apr 27 2010, 07:02 PM
If you are stating in the mp that you are looking for someone to harvest and plow and a person say I would like to harvest and plow for you then doesn't want to plow because they don't want the xps I can understand your anger. .

I posted a message in chat when I entered the mp stating I was looking for a hireling to harvest and plow my farm. "gramps lvl 80" took the job and when we got to my farm i sent chat msg to "please harvest and plow all"...he responded "I am only havesting not plowing" when asked why... he sent the reply I had posted earlier. That is why this makes me so angry.... we dont have any choice but to let them rape your farm at that point....need a block or fire button. you figure the upper crust would like to help the lowewr class too...I mean this isnt a competion style game it is a social game as far as i know....