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Anthea
Dec 23 2009, 01:13 AM
Firstly I'd like to say I have enjoyed Farmtown very much. But I am afraid I have found these new changes extremely frustrating. I much prefered the queing and then I could chat while waiting for the coins/xp to calculate. Now there is no skill only aggrevation. I have tried working on other peoples farms today and in every case another worker has complained and promptly quit. I always thought computer games were based on how fast you could go and may the best man win. Theres other games like farmville for those who have too slow internet connections for them to compete. We may not loose xp and coins now but its taking 10 times longer to earn them, I'd rather sacrifice the coins and xp than the time. Technically by slowing us down, we are loosing coin and xp that we couldve been earning on other jobs.

raindrops300
Dec 23 2009, 01:13 AM
Okay, gave it one more shot and I'm done. Can't take the harvest speed and there were about 8 other harvesters with me. This is a sign of things to come. i use to like hiring 1 maybe 2 to harvest for me. More coins and XP for them. Now I'd have to harvest about 8 people myself if I don't want to wait forever so now I'm just going to sit the farm out for now and wait for the next change. Hope they do the right thing and fix this. Plan on checking back in a few days when the Pineapples are done.

Please go to the updated thread that says they are reverting back and support reverting back.

Chicky's Place
Dec 23 2009, 01:14 AM
except that when your avatar keeps getting in the way, which is almost always... it makes it more accurate to say that it takes about 2-3 seconds per square... which is REALLY bad.

oh so true. I'm no computer expert but don't the developers get to test these releases before they put them out? Or are we the test?

crodgers
Dec 23 2009, 01:14 AM
except that when your avatar keeps getting in the way, which is almost always... it makes it more accurate to say that it takes about 2-3 seconds per square... which is REALLY bad.I just went to the market and harvested and then plowed for someone. 2 of us were working. I plowed 441 fields in 4:05 with several (at least 6 or 7) repositioning moves that caused my avatar to walk slowly. That is 1.8 fields per second.

Chicky's Place
Dec 23 2009, 01:16 AM
Please go to the updated thread that says they are reverting back and support reverting back.

Can you post a link for this please?

bluedawne@yahoo.com
Dec 23 2009, 01:17 AM
Every single person I have discussed this with, and there has been many, are very disappointed with the changes. We liked it the way it was. Please please change it back. It is way way too slow now. You're taking the fun out of it. Please change it back!!!! Rhomea

Mustaine's Woman
Dec 23 2009, 01:18 AM
Guys, read the new Sticky thread in News & Announcements ;-)

THANKS RAUL!!!

Loving it.

Little Critter
Dec 23 2009, 01:19 AM
Can you post a link for this please?http://r1.slashkey.com/forum/showthread.php?t=285522

KeLy
Dec 23 2009, 01:19 AM
Raul,

I understand and appreciate your motivation for the latest change, but from the hiree's point of view, what you have done is revert to the way harvesting/plowing was 6-12 months ago. There is now no queuing at all, and for the first time in many months I again have to contend with being kicked off a farm in the middle of a job. I have to keep clicking on "Save Pending Changes" or my coins and experience *DO NOT* keep up or get tallied at all, and I eventually get kicked off. So your motivation is *NOT* even being realized!

The holidays are a time for nostalgia, but not this kind, and not on Farm Town. You had things working fairly efficiently, and now it feels like the old clunky FT. With multiple farms, I just cannot afford the time and frustration this brings back to the game. Find another way!

Well stated and sums up my feelings exactly. I had stopped playing a few months ago because of the issues that you describe. I came back when top of level was raised. It was fun and enjoyable with the harvest and plowing changes. Now, we're back to the same old issues.

I'm waiting for the avatar to catch up while other players harvest or plow around me. Worse, I'm getting the game needs to reload error on nearly every job. We don't all have gaming systems. Even following all the suggestions for improving speed, it just takes too much time.

I appreciate all the time and effort that go into writing a game. However, this is not an upgrade; it's a major step backward.:(

crodgers
Dec 23 2009, 01:19 AM
Guys, read the new Sticky thread in News & Announcements ;-)

THANKS RAUL!!!

Loving it.
read it carefully - has not changed yet and may change by early tomorrow...

judyfay83301@msn.com
Dec 23 2009, 01:19 AM
I am so glad you posted this,I thought something was wrong with my computer.
It will take some time getting use to but at least I will be paid and get my XP's.
For now, we can live with this knowing you will have a better idea down the road.
Thank you

chellhuck
Dec 23 2009, 01:20 AM
I would always plant in rows and have people step on me. This is worse

LuckyLin1
Dec 23 2009, 01:22 AM
Thanks, Bert. I appreciate this change very much. I was soooo tired of peeps who tried to "hog" all of the work on a farm. They would randomly click all over a field, leaving multiple spaces not done. Then they would come back and just run over anyone who was trying to work in that area. I was sooo tired of saying, "Manners, please." Great job, Bert! Happy Holidays to all! :D

loyall3
Dec 23 2009, 01:24 AM
Sorry, I now feel like a turtle stuck in mud.................I solved the problem myself with the old method, after harvesting and plowing I always clicked save, no lose of xp points or coins............but with a waiting period of course before you could be rehired from harvesting to plowing or on to a new job, now you are stuck with a small patch of work, working alone or with a group, takes avatar forever to get to new location....................not in a hurry to go to market for work and no one is going to hire one or two people to work anymore, they will need an army.............so slow!!!!

Mustaine's Woman
Dec 23 2009, 01:24 AM
read it carefully - has not changed yet and may change by early tomorrow...

I read it properly...I'm sure we can live a night or two without farm town while they roll it back. If not, we just put up with the 22nd Update till they do roll it back.

sunide
Dec 23 2009, 01:25 AM
Is that the people who were reporting the were losing XP's were probably wrong...

Before the previous update, (the most recent update prior to today's) when you clicked away on the fields, the XP's and coins were "awarded" as your avatar "worked" the fields. If you left the field before the avatar finished working the fields, the remaining XP's "floated out of your head" on the next screen...

AFTER the previous update, (the most recent update prior to today's), XP's and coins were awarded as the field was clicked, NOT as it was "worked" by the avatar, so, by time the whole farm was done and you left, there WERE NO xp's or coins to be awarded any longer as they were all already received. They were NOT missing...



I hate this new update. I think it is unnecessary and unfortunate.

wr5aw
Dec 23 2009, 01:25 AM
I'm actually harvesting faster and with better accuracy and fewer missed fields. My cursor isn't jumping around like it used to. But then I always move in patterns/sections. I find that if you actually *think* as you harvest it's not that big of a deal to keep up with your avatar. Personally, I like it.

andersonjeni
Dec 23 2009, 01:25 AM
The new harvesting option, is a backward move, not allowing the more experienced player to achieve the speeds we are used to. Most of your updates are welcome this is not.After working the farm for so long and getting quite high in the game it is almost worthless, slowing us down to this rate. It will put a lot of players off from enjoying the game. We have worked hard and long to get to this point, and it is so dissapointing.

TheWifes
Dec 23 2009, 01:29 AM
This is insane!!! I just plowed 2 farms and down to the last 10 squares ALL of them were "Already Done", nothing showed and there was not an avatar near me. So much for the "fix". I started this game less than a month a go and I am already at lvl 25, I have never noticed that I lost coins or xp. The people that have were probably upset because they were not hired alone. I can say that this new way is horrible!! It takes forever and the avatar always stops working and says "Wait.. I'm busy" Change it back!! You will lose more people over this change than you will over the "lost xp/coins"

Sapai
Dec 23 2009, 01:32 AM
I realise this game is in beta phase, but this last "new release" will be the death of Farm Town...I loved this game yesterday , now I am so frustrated I will most likely stop playing. It took me almost an hour to harvest and plow "most" of my neighbors farm. I am level 60, I know pretty much what I am doing here. But I do not have the time to spend an hour on a farm, all alone ( I like working solo) trying to do a good job for the person who hired me... I also respect other farmers who are working the same farm I work.. I try not to get in the area they harvest and only hope they do the same .
PLEASE rethink this latest move....I just harvested my own farm because I did not want to put anyone else thru the *bleep* I went through trying to harvest my neighbors farm...
It took a very long time just to harvest, plow, and plant 1/4 of my 2nd farm!

I have enjoyed this game so much but if you don't fix this mess you made today, I will leave, spend all my town in FarmVille (groan) and never spend another penny buying a thing here!

I do thank you for the fun I had here and for all the nice people I have met on Farm Town.

Me too, Candi Yam. Me too.

Early this morning I was helping a neighbor. It was so fast on her second farm, my avatar was just flying! I was typing "zoooooooooooooooooooom" in the chat window, and we were laughing so hard I was crying! It was FUN!

No more! After coming back this afternoon to this boondoggle, after trading with another neighbor for the new torture device method, I harvested and plowed my second farm, not wanting anyone else to have to endure it. And the (ahem) "fix" doesn't apply to our own farms. Just kiss your profit goodbye. Yesterday I had to pay twice for two plow jobs. I didn't rush over here to complain. I thought, "it will get worked out". NOT!

I have made so many new friends all over the world! It has been such a rewarding experience up to this point. I am heart sick.

Gambitt
Dec 23 2009, 01:33 AM
Glad to see the "un-release" thanks for listening to our users!

laughingeyes
Dec 23 2009, 01:35 AM
I find that it is NOT fast between adjacent plots. I have always gone to a far corner on multiple hires on another farm, then worked row by row. It went quickly! Now, it takes me litterally 10 times as long to do a job. It's NOT FUN anymore. Find another way to fix it folks. It is SO boring...like watching water boil.
Frankly, there are PLENTY of other apps to play online, so when you completely **** up your app, you'll find many of us senior players leaving out of boredom.
Sure wish you'd tried to find another way to fix it, OR at LEAST asked for people's opinions before you made the decision. I've been playing for about 2 months, and have never had a problem receving my credits.
A DISGUSTED 4 hours a day player

laughingeyes
Dec 23 2009, 01:37 AM
Me too, Candi Yam. Me too.

I have made so many new friends all over the world! It has been such a rewarding experience up to this point. I am heart sick.

Me too...it's what I'll really miss. BUT, come on over to Farm Ville, or Island Paradise (where you can swipe from other people's harvest...kind of fun) for another couple of great games.

janisko
Dec 23 2009, 01:38 AM
Besides being slow my connection to the server is still timing out. It happened three times at one farm and fortunately I was able to save it. I thought this wasn't going to happen with the supposed fix?

Brandy from Retirement Dream (below) was harvesting and plowing at Waterfall Orchard #2 (also below). Both of us were on WF26. The timing out only happened when plowing, just as before.

I clear my cache every time I close my browsers and have all of the Flash updates on both. I run WIN XP with both IE8 and Firefox (latest version).

For me this fix wasn't a fix. The server still tries to boot me and I'm working at a fraction of my normal pace.

All this said... I still appreciate the hard work the developers put into this game and realize it's still in beta but PLEASE test these changes before they are implemented. And test them on real farms!

mickmse2
Dec 23 2009, 01:39 AM
instead of making the plowing and harvesting slower by making your mini me follow u... why not fix it where only one person at a time can work on a farm... it would end the competition and give the one person a chance to work at their own pace....

laughingeyes
Dec 23 2009, 01:41 AM
A more adept fix would have been to LIMIT the number of hires someone could have on their farm at one time....four maybe, dependent on size of farm. That would have been farm, spread out the work more, and NOT resulted in the mess you all have created of slower than snail harvesting and plowing, taking the excitment, challenge, and joy right out of the game.

Farmer Castle Man
Dec 23 2009, 01:44 AM
The new harvest and plow feature STINKS!!! Vampire Wars made some mistakes trying to add more "bells and whistles"....now a bunch of us just up and quit. Sometimes more is LESS! I've been Level 60 for a while and really enjoyed December 21st. Now, it's time to move on and drop another game ONCE AGAIN. Farm Town was the favorite.....not any more.

laughingeyes
Dec 23 2009, 01:44 AM
QUOTE:
For me this fix wasn't a fix. The server still tries to boot me and I'm working at a fraction of my normal pace.

PLEASE test these changes before they are implemented. And test them on real farms![/QUOTE]

Same for me...I run XP, with all updates on all (flash, XP, etc), and kept getting run time bump offs...that was frustrating...THAT is what lost me points!

And now it's just at a snail's pace....I prefered the run time errors, frankly!

Why not have a test option, then when you want to test a "fix", we'll all play it for you and provide feedback, so that when you do fixes, you can make sure they are workable for your users!

BR_Hamster
Dec 23 2009, 01:48 AM
Hi Raul, and all farmers.

Although I can see why you are trying to solve a problem with harvesting and plowing the old way was considerablly quicker - the new way, I am now finding it after 24 hours almost impossible to hire any harvesters.

If we are only able to hire 1 harvester and 1 plower at any given time on 1 farm this should resolve that ?

Other than that it is a cool game.

Capt. Conor
Dec 23 2009, 01:50 AM
:rolleyes: get real... it is not that bad!

talking from experience, it was, I was doing some tallying today, more that 25 people quite within the first 14 pages of this update

Sandie Angel
Dec 23 2009, 02:08 AM
Well... I don't know about you people. I think this upgrade is fantastic!! As I said how fast you want to go is controlled by your own clicking finger. I don't expect everyone to agree with me on my previous post, since no matter how the game is there's always going to be someone who complains. I, myself, find the upgrade is fantastic so I will stay in this game.

NO WAY I'M GOING TO GO TO FARMVILLE - the game is a self-torturing game. The introvert farmer doesn't talk to anyone, just working away in his/her own farm.

Every time I step into FarmVille I get mad, all those animals with dots on their heads crying to attention. I can hardly step into my farm and enjoy the view. All I can see each time are dots on the animals heads. Farmville sucks because everything you need are to be bought by cash.. The graphics are terrible animals are ugly...and I don't feel like having to go to my farm and have to work on my harvesting....and then the plowing....and then the seeding.....and then the animalssssss!!!!! What for??? FarmVille is nothing but a self-torturing money-spending game!!!! You can't even build anything for there's no materials for you to build with. What a boring game that is!!!! Sorry FarmVille Developer!...but you need to know the truth about your game.

Sandie Angel :)

Sapai
Dec 23 2009, 02:09 AM
Neurotic is putting it mildly. LOL. That mini woman is driving me nuts. She must think she's the new dance queen.

Whiplash. The effects remind me of the primitive "Pong" game. Not your highest technical abilities. Watch the bouncing ball! It's just not fun any more, even if you're working for a neighbor/friend.

unclebutch
Dec 23 2009, 02:15 AM
this won't do at all. not at all. i have people zipping all around me while i have to wait for each crop to finish before doing the next. i am being out-paced 50 to 1. i am not a new player and my prefrences are set right and have not changed since i started playing. this new "upgrade" is just plain wrong. even if everyone moved at the snail pace i am it would make this a terribly boring game. i am just hoping it's a temporary server glitch.

steve-bockz
Dec 23 2009, 02:15 AM
thanks guys you do a great job have a good xmas

Sapai
Dec 23 2009, 02:19 AM
I don't know why voicing an opinion is characterized as whining. Lots of us love this game and feel the change takes away from our enjoyment of it. The developers need to hear what we think. I wish they'd take a poll and see what their users would prefer.

Yeah. And I'm sure the developers, who one assumes make some kind of living from coding, really appreciate the high and mighties inviting people to quit their game. I'm sure Bert and Raul would MUCH rather be standing in a bread line than hear from their BETA testers.

granana
Dec 23 2009, 02:25 AM
I do appreciate that we will be reverting back to the previous version, until a compromise can be determined.

Limit the active workers on a farm, corresponding to the size of the farm.

Boot or fire button that when used a total of 3 times prevents either party from accessing the others farm and limit the ability of hiring/accepting job from each other, permanently.(if used as a weapon to randomly boot people, the person will eventually run out of people to boot! and the people getting booted will either learn to behave or they will exhaust the people they can harass) to clarify , it is a farmer to farmer penalty, so that the "victims" of malicious booters, do not actually get blocked from the game, just from the person who repeatedly booted them.

I LOVED this game as it was, occasional glitches and all. I am THRILLED to hear you will revert back to the game I Loved so much, prior to the fiasco of the 12/22 release!!!!

medis
Dec 23 2009, 02:33 AM
I hate it! I don't agree with your logic at all! All hirees land on the same spot and start from there. Nobody wants to fan out now because you have to wait to walk to a further, less crowded spot. It is taking twice as long to do everything and I DO have a real life to attend to as well. Please, please, please put it back!!

medis
Dec 23 2009, 02:39 AM
[QUOTE=granana;2915310]I do appreciate that we will be reverting back to the previous version, until a compromise can be determined.

Limit the active workers on a farm, corresponding to the size of the farm.

QUOTE]

I couldn't agree more! I think it is the perfect solution!

Sapai
Dec 23 2009, 02:48 AM
I went to a farm once to harvest, and there were only two harvesters. Me and this other girl. I tried to stay on my side to harvest, divided the farm from the middle, so she could stay on her side and I could stay on my side; and believe me the crops on both sides were the same!!

While I was working a pattern from top to bottom, or sometimes from left to right and right to left on my side of the fields, this woman got some nerve to intrude on my side while I was working on the pattern from top to bottom. When I got to the bottom I saw that she was clicking away the fields on my side of the farm. I was so mad!!! You try to be fair and divide the farm in the middle, but this rude and greedy woman came and clicked away on my side of the farm. So in order to get back at her, (I could click a lot faster than her), so I went to click on her side of the fields to see how she liked it.

I'm also very good in sharing work, because I can click fast and I noticed some harvesters click very slow, so at some point in time I would stop harvesting and leave the rest of the fields for the other harvester so she could catch up with collecting the coins that she should be getting. I stopped harvest, and the employer thought that was fair so she gave me the plow tool to plow. I began plowing the fields that I had harvested, then this other harvester got mad because I got to plow the fields first, she just left and didn't even continue on with harvesting the rest of the fields.

So I don't know what I should do to be fair. I thought I was being fair because I was clicking faster and so I left some fields to the other harvester to harvest, so she wouldn't feel I have got all the harvests. Isn't it a courteous thing to do? Then why was she upset and left the farm when I accepted the plow tool to plow? Is not that I wouldn't leave her any fields for plowing; or perhaps that's what she thought, and that was why she left?

What's a fast clicker is supposed to do for others without others thinking that we are going to get everything in the farm??? You try to be nice, and others don't think you're so nice.

Sandie Angel :confused:

I know what you mean. But. The other night I worked with a very polite co-worker. And I commented on it. I said I appreciate "name" being such a polite co-worker. The farm owner said she appreciated us working together and not fighting.

If I hire more than one farmer, I ASK them to be polite to one another. If they don't want to, they are welcome to find a mob somewhere else. No problems with greedy farmers at my farm.

And, personally, I do not participate in mob farming. Always someone at the MP will be along hiring eventually. Most FT peeps are good peeps. Avoid those who are not and que sera sera.

If someone needs to be chained down in order not to work out their greed, let them have the harvest and plow too! I don't need it that badly. And take the chains off me, tyvm.

JanMac57
Dec 23 2009, 02:56 AM
Well, this afternoon was a bit of a shock with the 'new' harvesting and plowing. I hated it but then it got better. I have to admit I like it now. It's more controlled and will reduce the random field runners that hack and slash everywhere. Once you adjust (and it took me about a dozen jobs), it is just as fast. Other than waiting for the avatar to get to where you want to work, it's ok. Maybe we should all just settle down and make the adjustment just like we have every other new change. It's not all that bad.

jackpinemn
Dec 23 2009, 03:13 AM
New work rules an annoying pain, I do not have 40 minutes to work a field. It is very slow and I just thought the dang system has not working up to par as usual. It is slow and cumbersome. I need a big rest from this thing. This is a game and not an old ladies tea party. Why do we have to divide up a fiel based on nice, nice. :mad:

shadman
Dec 23 2009, 03:15 AM
It is awful . It is soooo slow to get anything done now . It does not help collisions as you call them . you just can't see when the other avatar is on top of you plowing under and around you ! people are just as greedy as you say ! I will stop playing this soon if it does not go back to the way it was . People at the market did not know what was going on ! Everyone was saying that they better get this glitch fixed !!! Not knowing you had changed the game . People like me were restarting thier computers and internet thinking it was something wrong with thier PC ! It makes it very hard for those of us that have hand "troubles " also . I am quite disturbed by this and I am sure not alone !
I used to have fun playing and was addicted over the other games I play on facebook . But it is just frustrating now , how fun is that ? ???????

jackpinemn
Dec 23 2009, 03:18 AM
The new system is a pain, there was smoother sailing on the Edmond Fitzgerald. And it sank to the bottom of the great lake..

jackpinemn
Dec 23 2009, 03:22 AM
I agree, the "I am busy messages" are very annoying. I will not go work for other people. Nice can have it all

banffy
Dec 23 2009, 03:30 AM
For once I got paid for all my work tonight and it was a pleasure not being overrun by others...I found it was good team work when you were hired, yes it did take a wee bit longer but in the long run it paid off cause you received all you coin and xp points..
thanks again and Merry Christmas

Eminka
Dec 23 2009, 03:35 AM
I don't get any XP :(

shac1981
Dec 23 2009, 03:35 AM
ty for fixing the problems. it is greatly appreciated :)

SunnyD
Dec 23 2009, 03:42 AM
Metallicat buy a lottery ticket, that asks you to pick 6 numbers out of 69... Then after you buy the ticket, they decided to change it to 6 numbers out of 269... Fraud! Plain and simple!

Dude whatever you spent your money on you got... if it was for farm 2 you got farm 2. if for an item you got the item.. you did not spend money on how you harvest and plow.. dude give these guys a break.. with every update on this game you have to give it a few days to work itself through the various servers ... things always improve with the updates. I am frustrated with the slowness but I do know it will improve..... besides all that. now that the farmer that hires someone sees them harvesting they can tell when a person is not working at all and just standing around... and also who is using them cheat codes .. am i correct in that guys??

jo_fantastico
Dec 23 2009, 03:47 AM
:(

I am not a fan. I love this game, love playing it, and prior to this new update, the harvesting and plowing went VERY fast, and it was no trouble at all to avoid "collisions" or whatever.

I think that perhaps, they were or are some people playing that aren't fast enough and felt slighted by other players. Understandable, but at the same time, it's a game. There SHOULD be a level of competition.

That being said, with this new change, why even have the option to NOT follow the avatar? Honestly, this has slowed things down enough that myself, as well as several other players I know, are thinking of canceling our accounts altogether, should this remain permanent. This is a HORRIBLE change to a once fun game, and I can't see spending any money for items or farmer cash at all if this is how it's to remain.

My apologies for sounding harsh, but this is supposed to be fun, not a frustration pain in my behind.

Thanks.

anotherfarmer
Dec 23 2009, 03:55 AM
Came here to see what is happening today, all i can say is so glad it is going to be put back........ do NOT like it this way at all.......

judy1001
Dec 23 2009, 03:58 AM
i dislike the new way to harvest and plow it is soooo slow i hate to harvest and plow now it used to be fun just some rude people....i really appreciate the hard work that goes into a game like this and totally love the garme

jo_fantastico
Dec 23 2009, 04:00 AM
"Hello Farmers! In order to minimize lost XP/coins we did some changes to the way the game works when you are hired, but we are restoring the old version sometime today due to popular demand. Thanks."


New message when logged into the game states that the reason for the change was due to lost XP/coins...? Really?

It's not hard to notice that if your coins and XP points are still going up in numbers and accumulating over your avatar's head, don't leave the current farm you're on, or those earned points may not save.
(hitting the "save" button that looks like a small old-school floppy disc may also be a good idea once in awhile, kiddies!)

If you don't realize that, then, uh... oh well. heh :D

cazi69
Dec 23 2009, 04:00 AM
will there be new any more new levels in near future, i am so addicted to this game, its brilliant

thx ma larkin
merry xmas and a very happy new year to everyone xx

jo_fantastico
Dec 23 2009, 04:02 AM
Here's my farm, by the way:


Winter Wonderland (http://apps.facebook.com/farmtown/?ref=bm&cid=bm)


:o Just made level 50, and dig this game, and am ELATED that it's going back to the way it was... YAY!! :)

aagesshi
Dec 23 2009, 04:08 AM
what's the point of the option "NOT FOLLOW THE AVATAR" when now is doing exactly that

I thought my PC slow, but turn out u guys changes to slow. It's so ANNOYING to wait til the avatar to come closer to be able to plow while before we just click according to our own speed, more fun to compete that way and get it done fast and leave. and the point counting on its owns...i dont see how u can loose it.
Also "collision" with other's work doesnt happen much bcos "first come first serve" so if u late, u'll lose that field to harvest or plow. simple.

this is sux.....big time! and only work for those that are S.L.O.W

Jimbob_Roy
Dec 23 2009, 04:10 AM
Thanks for working hard to make the best farm game even better. FarmTown is the only computer game that I play these days.

I took the new version out for a test drive for several hours at the Market, hired neighbors/was hired by neighbors as well.

This latest version is great for multiple-hire situations from the Market because it returns Finesse, Skill and Thoughtful Planning back into the game. Those quick on the uptake will learn that shotgunning mouse-clicks across a field are pointless.

However, these same changes make working in friendlier conditions with Neighbors and Buddies quite arduous, time-consuming, and probably quite discouraging for many players.

My day of testing resulted in considerably more hand fatigue than a string of all-nighters of prior farming. And to my dismay, I had great difficulty staying ahead of a Big Seeder while I was Plowing two 24x24 full-crop fields--such sluggishness as an experienced farmer has never happened to me before.

One suggestion could be to make the new version the one used for jobs hired at The Market to tame down the shotgun hogs/mouse tracker users --and use the prior version for hiring directly from one's farm/neighbor's farm... or make either version selectable by the hiring player.

I normally am a go-along-with-the-flow kinda guy. But if I had to choose between one or the other, I would have to choose using the "old" version prior to the Dec. 22nd version, despite the fact that it made multiple-hire jobs from the Market more of a finesse game.

Keep up the good work. Thanks!

cmf
Dec 23 2009, 04:14 AM
It's great that something is (was) being done to address the issues, but as discussed above there is still obviously a huge problem for people like me who only hire one person to work their farm. There's really no excuse for not getting XPs and cash when you're not "competing" with anyone, and this has happened to me more times thanI can count.

kensfreedom
Dec 23 2009, 04:16 AM
I have been playing this game for a long time now (level 60, over 440,000 XP) and have seen many upgrades. Personally after trying several hiring schemes over time, I have found for me it works best to hire one person at a time and give them all the work I have at the moment. Harvesting and plowing. I have observed that 99% of the time everyone I have hired to work the whole farm is happy to make the maximum amount of coins that can be made from completing the job. Rarely have I run across people that do not have time to do the whole farm. When I used to hire multiple people so that the job would get finished faster it resulted in people arguing over work, people quitting and having to hire more. Ultimately it takes more time to get a job done then hiring only one person. For a while I refused to hire anyone from the market and only did my own work or higher neighbors. I lost too many coins by doing it myself. I would like to see the ability to allow a single worker to harvest or plow multiple fields like we can when we do our own work. This would speed up the work. As it only takes a couple min to cover a large farm 32x32 plots is 1024 plots on a farm with nothing else. When allowed to harvest or plow 4 plots with every click you only have a maximum of 256 mouse clicks to harvest the largest farms. Results in very little time to get a farm harvested and plowed. By allowing only one person to be hired at a time will result in more work being available at the MP. By allowing that one person to work multiple plots with each mouse click results in more productive work.
I also rarely accept job offers at the MP because it is too much of a hassle to work a farm with several others for very limited pay.
Thank you for reading and considering my post.

cornseed
Dec 23 2009, 04:35 AM
i love this game the only things i see as not functioning right were the coins and xp points..if this issue could be resolved using the old way it would be nice
the other issues i see r people using cheat codes or cheat engines ..to get harvest/plow points...and yes people do over hire to the point where u cannot even work on a farm and i think that should stop it puts an unnecessary burden on the farm and things move to slow..so i think a limit is a good idea.. when it was the old way i got plow points and coins as soon as i clicked on the squares the only problem was the counter keeping up and at times the suggestions given to retrieve those points or coins didnot work even totally getting off the game and coming back didnot work..now i appreciate all thats been done by all the hard working people that make this game work for us and whether u realize it or not it is relaxing aplace to go to have good clean fun and social time with folks which in turn helps our over all well being..u also help people with severe arthritis --carpal tunnel etc. so u have also been thoughful enough to help out others with physical limits and well u should be proud.if the few things get rresolved it will be a finer game after all our job as testers is to tell you of the issues so that you can make this a better game which it deserves to be and you then have the opportunity to fix and resolve the issues in the game. the devs sure are a tough bunch of people to put up with all the complaints and keep at fixing the game ...you really r appreciated even though it does not appear as such...so to all of u have a wonderful holiday.

silky
Dec 23 2009, 04:48 AM
LOL you cant switch it back fast enough!! the way that it is now is like the original way we harvested and plowed,,, grrr for the people that layer u will be shocked when you go to ur farms, lol i am one of them,,,:D No PLOWING!!! no rehire:mad:

Sandie Angel
Dec 23 2009, 05:15 AM
I know what you mean. But. The other night I worked with a very polite co-worker. And I commented on it. I said I appreciate "name" being such a polite co-worker. The farm owner said she appreciated us working together and not fighting.

If I hire more than one farmer, I ASK them to be polite to one another. If they don't want to, they are welcome to find a mob somewhere else. No problems with greedy farmers at my farm.

And, personally, I do not participate in mob farming. Always someone at the MP will be along hiring eventually. Most FT peeps are good peeps. Avoid those who are not and que sera sera.

If someone needs to be chained down in order not to work out their greed, let them have the harvest and plow too! I don't need it that badly. And take the chains off me, tyvm.


There was no fight at all. Although I sort of guessed what she was thinking. I just thought she was rude to have clicked on my side when she had to whole half of the farm to herself. I didn't say anything to her, but just went to click on her side instead.

I don't need anyone to think that I'm taking all the harvests or the plows. I would always leave some for others.

I don't really like going into a farm where the employer has hired too many workers. Everyone would clidk on any fields that are right in front of others while others are working in that area, and I think it was rude. Like refugees scampering for food or something, and you can't tell them "Hey, don't do that! That's mine!" for the farm does not belong to you. So you stopped in the middle of what you're doing and let them have the fields.

This happens all the time when an employer hires too many people. I have two farms, Farm 1 I would always hire only 1 person, and when this person arrives I always told the person "It's all yours!" so the employee can work in peace and work in their own speed.

My farm 2 has a lot more fields, so I normally hire 2 - 3 workers, and they are all very polite, because there's ample fields for them to work at so they don't have to fight over the harvests or the plows. When I hired two people I always asked them whether they need anymore help, and in many instances they don't, and so they also work peacefully in my farm 2. When I hired 3 people I could see that they were all trying to speed up and go faster than the others. But that's all I would hire for my two farms. I don't hire more than 3 for my farm 2, and farm 1 I always hire 1, so everyone is happy when they do the jobs.

Sandie Angel :)

sleepy_user
Dec 23 2009, 05:18 AM
This new update sucks. It takes FOREVER to harvest or plow. I want the old farm town back. I think I'm going to give this game up if this continues.

donnasue13
Dec 23 2009, 05:22 AM
I hate that you've gone back to the old way of harvesting! I don't have all day to play on FarmTown and the way it was the last several weeks was great because I could just harvest and be done. Now I have to wait for my avatar to get to the next item I want to harvest. And God forbid I try to harvest during a "busy time" because then the avatar moves even slower than before! Please put it back the way it was before!

I'm also wondering since FarmTown has "gone retro" with harvesting, does this mean you've also gone back to the old XP levels? Is it going to take us forever to reach the next level again??

I love this game and I'd hate to have to quit because I no longer have time to wait for the avatar to move around!

Lesley1607
Dec 23 2009, 05:24 AM
I don't mind the new method, it helps those of us that are methodical and I find it really quick. I do LOATHE with a passion the new larger icons though.

Redhedsmom
Dec 23 2009, 05:28 AM
I've been away for 2 weeks because of all the problems with this game. Thought I'd try it out this morning when I saw there were changes. OMG they suck. 2 farms I got hired to and never once got any coins. The only thing my avatar did was wander around saying "WAIT I'M BUSY" or I would click on a field and it was already done. I put myself in a corner and absolutely nothing. The hash mark would show up on just a couple of fields, but I clicked well over 100 times in that corner and only 2 or 3 hash marks showed up. The rest of the time nothing, except WAIT I'M BUSY.

AWFUL, HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE.

Thank goodness Christmas is almost over so the developers will quit pushing the decorations and actually work on fixing what was a great game, which is now awful.

I've truly become only a large field 3 day farmer who takes care of their own farm and doesn't hire or hire out.

The changes SUCK!

SillyOhighOBch
Dec 23 2009, 05:32 AM
"Hello Farmers! In order to minimize lost XP/coins we did some changes to the way the game works when you are hired, but we are restoring the old version sometime today due to popular demand. Thanks."


New message when logged into the game states that the reason for the change was due to lost XP/coins...? Really?

It's not hard to notice that if your coins and XP points are still going up in numbers and accumulating over your avatar's head, don't leave the current farm you're on, or those earned points may not save.
(hitting the "save" button that looks like a small old-school floppy disc may also be a good idea once in awhile, kiddies!)

If you don't realize that, then, uh... oh well. heh :D

I noticed today when plowing someones field that I was LOSING coins. It was jumping from -5 coins to -145 coins. But it was also giving more exp points. Was the craziest thing. So yes...Really!!! And hitting the save button did no good. So maybe your the one that isn't really paying attention....oh well!

farmtownrules09
Dec 23 2009, 05:36 AM
Slower than before. Bring the faster harvesting back

Ostersonabike
Dec 23 2009, 05:42 AM
I have no problem with this change, it can be as quick with some sort of system and rhythm.

Are you sure that this is what caused the problem, from what I have found, the loss of coins is not actually a loss to the worker, because the game has some problems synchronising, you can harvest/plough some patches that have already been worked. Ploughing is the obvious one where when you click the patch it turns to the ploughed symbol immediately without the presence of the progress bar. while your current screen might credit the points, when you leave the farm save does not recognise it and the coins are not recorded on your refreshed total. In harvesting it is similar, you see your progress bar on the patch then you see it worked again, your avatar clears your bar but the other remains. Actually when some other worker works a patch you have done and your progress bar is there, you can catch a glimpse of the other worker's bar as it quickly slides along

I am an IS/IT developer and have had an interest in the game and trying to see how best to use its functionality, I like the clever farms and those who develop a system to working.

Cheers John

neferteetee
Dec 23 2009, 05:53 AM
Hhhhmmmm so we've gone back to the old way...click, stop, I'm waiting....it'd be ok if it had sorted the glitches of lost XP/coins, but it hasn't...I've just done two farms this old way and didn't get fully paid on both of them.....and what does the message at the top of the screen mean?....they're going back permantly to the old old way or they're going back to the old new way?

Obviously old old and old new only makes sense to when you started playing the game!

I'd find it hard to believe that the popular demand they're on about is the old old way!

And my plough stopped working half way through! Never had that happen before.


Sorry if the above post is duplicated...I'd not seen this one...I'd just like to add...I saw mention of hired workers that harvest/plough willy nilly...stompers I call them...and this is one reason for this 'new' way? these stompers are in the minority, they're basically ignorant people and I hate them with a passion...it'd of been a lot better if you could bring out a tool so that we can boot them off our farms...they not only mess it up for others you may have hired but they mess it up for ourselves as we can't plant until they've gone!...Bring out a 'sod off my farm you ignorant, greedy, little get button' :);)


Merry Christmas everyone x

Lissy07
Dec 23 2009, 05:54 AM
I play this game just about twice daily in fact i reached level 60 yesterday. I notice small gliches only once in a while and usually they work themselves out by the next time I play. I think that given the amount of things that we are asking farm town to actually do it's a fantastic game! Biggest improvement for me was the ability to choose to hire for just crops, or both crops and trees. Mostly because I hated hearing people complain that someone harvested their trees. Yesterday my friend noticed he had major problems harvesting, having to do one square at a time. I remember when that was the only option! And I think I made it 27 levels doing it that way (way back when!) Thank you for this game. Keep trying to improve it, and we will all be understanding that sometimes problems arise!

FarmerK h
Dec 23 2009, 06:01 AM
OMG...this is so not fun. I almost stopped playing before because my avitar would wander all over the fields when i was hired. This is just as bad...just fix the xp/$ problems in the other format. I lost plenty, but, if you stuck around until your points caught up...no problem.
Now, folks are gonna hire 200 people to work on a 14x14 farm.....ugh....
please, programmers, please give us the option of taking our harvesters and plowers to other's farms....or change it back.....please....this takes sooooooo long....
sorry, i love farmtown...have made some great friends on here....please.............

Katrine89
Dec 23 2009, 06:09 AM
I used to love this game, too! But this new way of plowing and harvesting really gets on my nerves! It's to slow. I used to hire only one person on my farm, if he/she was fast. Now I don't have enough time to do that, because it takes to much time! Please change it back! I am a really big fan of farm town, but I get tired right away when I play it now...

edithb201
Dec 23 2009, 06:19 AM
The only problem I have is all the popups you are putting in when I harvest a popup shows up. Can you please stop the popups they sometimes come up during the time you are plowing or harvesting So please try & get them off.

andersley
Dec 23 2009, 06:28 AM
Sorry if the above post is duplicated...I'd not seen this one...I'd just like to add...I saw mention of hired workers that harvest/plough willy nilly...stompers I call them...and this is one reason for this 'new' way? these stompers are in the minority, they're basically ignorant people and I hate them with a passion...it'd of been a lot better if you could bring out a tool so that we can boot them off our farms...they not only mess it up for others you may have hired but they mess it up for ourselves as we can't plant until they've gone!...Bring out a 'sod off my farm you ignorant, greedy, little get button' :);)




I agree totally with the above! If this old way continues, I will be quitting FT, even though I just got my second farm. What a way to mess up a really great game. Progress??????????? The changes are pathetic!

llane88
Dec 23 2009, 06:34 AM
I'm not sure if it is just me or if it's my computer, but it is excrutiatingly frustrating to plow or harvest now. It takes me 10 - 15 minutes to harvest or plow a very small field. I am at the point where i will no longer be harvesting or plowing at other peoples' farms. It's a waste of my time and emotional energy to work elsewhere.

That said, happy holidays everyone :)

raynorcp
Dec 23 2009, 06:36 AM
Dearest Developers,

Thank you for hearing our cry and restoring us back to the old way. Your response time is wonderful and we really do appreciate all you do to make Farm Town a great game.

Quicky50
Dec 23 2009, 06:37 AM
i have problems now with harvesting and plowing
with harvesting i get the message wait i am busy and saving everytime and with plowing i can't go on i have to wait till the points and xp are gone
i hope that the old version gets back
quicky50

Camillos Dude Ranch
Dec 23 2009, 06:41 AM
Please change this game back to the way it was!! I'm level 60 and I'm sure most of us have had some problems, but have figured it out without the upgrade. As an experienced FarmTown player, this newest version just doesn't work.:mad:

Camillos Dude Ranch
San Francisco, CA

ac_minnick
Dec 23 2009, 06:44 AM
Sorry, I would rather lose out on a few xp and enjoy what I'm doing. I'm glad you're considering changing it back. I was going to have to drop this game with the changes. I'm happy to know I may continue to play. Thanks!

lindyblueeyes
Dec 23 2009, 06:45 AM
The new way stinks! Go back to the old way for plowing. Takes too long to get your avitar to where you need it and if you miss a spot you have to wait for it to get there. The I'm busy again has got to go
.****[UPDATE]**** Please see the new created thread for latest information

Hi There,

First, the Bert account was hacked recently and there were some posts made on his behalf, we are researching this issue now.

Second, we just released a new version of FarmTown a while ago. As stated before, we were going to focus mainly on the lost XP/Coins issues which are critical at this point. However, in order to minimize the lost XP/Coins issues, we had to make some changes to the way harvesting/plowing works when you are hired.

Before, when multiple people were hired on a farm, everybody starts clicking randomly on every field, and there are a lot of collisions, people harvesting/plowing on the same fields, as you don't see clearly where other people are working.

The new way is this, if you harvest fields that are close to where your avatar is, then your avatar will be teletransported and will be a very quick transition, it should be as quick or comparable to what it was before, however if you click on a field that is farther away, then you will have to wait until your avatar gets to that field to continue working.

This change will make that on some instances you work slower, on the other hand people get more dispersed while working on a farm, you can actually see them where they are working, and there will be much less collisions between them. This will also add another component to the game, now it's not just blindly clicking on the fields, you have to also consider the position of other players and your chances to avoid collisions and to get more work done. Now, when you click on a field that another player did before you, then you will see a message saying "already done", before, there was no feedback at all.

Of course, we know this release will cause a lot of complains as well, because in order to improve one area we had to change the behaivor on another area which some users will not like it, but compared to the issue of frequent losing more XP and coins, we just decided this was the way to go.

So far we have detected that there are 70% less issues with lost XP/coins that before, and it should improve with time even more.

As a separate note, the cursors on the game have been made larger and they don't get overlapped by other items on the game.

Thanks

--Raul

momgoose72
Dec 23 2009, 06:56 AM
THANK YOU DEVELOPERS!! I was more than thrilled to receive this message when I logged on this morning.

"Hello Farmers! In order to minimize lost XP/coins we did some changes to the way the game works when you are hired, but we are restoring the old version sometime today due to popular demand. Thanks. "

Let's hope it really does go back to the way that it was. To those that are loosing XP coins - the same thing has happened to me but the loss has been minimal. Just wait until they all add up and don't rush to leave. Remember - it is only a game!!

olliver
Dec 23 2009, 07:15 AM
It sucks big time I was getting sick of the old way when it changed and sped everything up and truly made it a bit competitive and exciting, now it's back to pedantic slow and boring I wont be working anyone elses farm and dont want to sit there for half an hour for someone to do mine. So slow and repetetive it will put me to sleep. You clould always tell what you had done cause a little bar used to go across that fiels now it just click 3 times before it actually clears it and constant messages telling you Wait I'm busy. Way To Slow Way To Boring. Anyone that enjoys slowly clicking away in conformed lines is pedantic. And as for lost XP's you could get twice as many the other way so it wouldn't matter if you lost some now you can get every little point and it only takes an hour to do it forget going to another farm to work your brain dead by the time you finish one small farm.Time to find another game such a shame

laurar133
Dec 23 2009, 07:23 AM
i think this is good because you can see what you are doing and people that have the cheat program cant hog the whole field. Dont change it back we will get use to it!!!!!!!!!

CynthiaSue
Dec 23 2009, 07:32 AM
I don't mind others being faster, what I minded was when they would hog all the plots. Why not allow me to finish the row I am doing if I am neatly doing one small area and am not moving slowly, just not as fast as others. I may not be as fast a clicker as others, but there is rude behavior on farms. Some people do not choose one area to work on, but would click in any area where another was working even when there was an area they could work in that no one was working in. I always zoom way out and find an area no one is working in and go there and work, so I don't have to click on a plot just to have another click on it a hair ahead of me. I am sure that is what alot of people didn't like. You don't have to take plots you know full well the other person is goign to get in a second. No one said it had to be fair, but rude is still rude. Clicking on plots in an areas someone about to get to who is working in a logical pattern is hogging all the plots. Technically you won't have done anything wrong, you will just have been not so nice to someone else. Just because you can do it, does not mean you ought to do it.

pde64
Dec 23 2009, 07:35 AM
the loss of a few coins here and there is not worth the loss of speed we now see. i appriciate what you tried to do, but this is not better.

Sandman1967
Dec 23 2009, 07:39 AM
THANK YOU for listening to the people and changing it back!
Sure wish you guys ran the government!

CynthiaSue
Dec 23 2009, 07:43 AM
I thought the message meant that the way it has now gone back to is the way people wanted it by popular demand becuase they were losing points and coins. Am I misunderstanding here? I would be very happy for it to go back to the fast way where you can click on the plots and wait for your avatar to catch up. I thought that was the way that some said they were losing points and coins. I am telling you now that I lose coins and points this way because plowing or harvesting, after I click on plots on farms where there are multiple workers, it says already done. I have already wasted lots of clicks doing plots that show undone when they are already done. When I see that happen, I now leave. Why should I have to keep guessing which plots are done and which aren't. I don't get coins or points for those, so I am wasting my time.

I had a harder time finding plowers today, both yesterday and today, I had to rehire for my fields as people either quit or were booted, I have no way of knowing which. I only hire one person at a time, as I want even slow workers to be able to get more work. They obviously need it more than the faster workers. And I also don't like to have people competing for plots. People like to work alone. However, I am not sure if they do anymore with this old way. I used to be ok with the old way, but have been spoiled with the new way, and really got weary of the old way by the end of yesterday. I just haven't gotten the hang of it.

babybumblebee
Dec 23 2009, 07:46 AM
Well it looks like all the complainers are going to get their wish today. I just hope they also put a limit on the number of hires. Regardless, though - I won't stamp my feet and decide not to play, I love the game. I just leave farms where people can't be considerate of others - this IS a social game after all.

mfisch2001
Dec 23 2009, 07:47 AM
The new harvesting method is terrible. It is slow enough to finish one field before moving to the next, and the messages slow it more and interfere with visibility as do the giant tools. While I dislike the spastic harvesters, a better solution would be to limit harvesters (may based on farm size - 4 max), or don't allow them to leave a farm until the points are collected. The game is no longer worth the effort.

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::

wifiepooh2558
Dec 23 2009, 07:48 AM
I REALLY liked the changes made to harvesting/plowing when hired, I am one of the ones that would lose 1/2 a crop worth of coins when plowing or harvesting and that adds up to be quite a lot of lost coins and xp over time ... especially awful when I'm picking the higher and more expensive crops. with the new changes I was getting the crop done fast and not losing any xp and coins ... I really hope you reconsider and decide to keep the changes

CynthiaSue
Dec 23 2009, 07:49 AM
Great, I really believe I didn't get all my points this morning. I should have gone up a level. I have 1500 plots and I only went up 3400 points and I had them all harvested and plowed this morning and then I reseeded. This way is definitely out now for me. I even plowed some on someones field this morning.

evangail49
Dec 23 2009, 07:58 AM
:mad:
I am one those that lost thousands of points & coins and I don't like it. It is slow
and cumbersome . I just finished harvesting & plowing a neighbor's farm and it took me three times longer to do the work than it did yesterday. I have decided
to harvest & plow my farms and wait for some sanity to return to Farm Town.

For those who will send me email and complain about my post: go jump in a lake and take the horse you came in with too. I dislike the foolish and inept way of handling these problems.:mad:
You don't listen and you don't care and never have listened to the concerns of the people who play the game.
Do you or have you ever played the game you developed? it is a considerable difference in building something and never even playing the game to see if is easier one way or another.
:mad:

babybumblebee
Dec 23 2009, 08:03 AM
As a follow up - I hired two people to harvest and plow my farm this morning - 1 harvester, 1 plower - worked beautifully and they were done in about 3 or 4 minutes. So now I'm even more confused as to what the fuss is about - where is this 10 minutes? 45 minutes?

Also I'll admit that I work in IT as a developer myself and I know what it's like to try to improve upon things and get immediate kicking and screaming from my users. It's usually because people won't allow themselves a chance to do things in a different way. Once they do they usually find things better than they were before. Fortunately, in my world, we RARELY roll things back to the way they were - people just have to get on board and used to it.

carond
Dec 23 2009, 08:03 AM
I've read all the EXCUSES (not reasons) for the changes and I have to say it was a ridiculous move. All of us have to suffer because some greedy ppl want to grab what they can when hired. There are so many better ways to handle this than to ruin everyone's game play. Like allowing the farmer to hiire ppl for a certain section of their farm so they can't overlap....or limit how many can be hired for a farm.

If we all have to have poor game performance because some ppl have no courtesy then it isn't a game my family and I want to play. I think a more important fix would be to allow a farmer to FIRE someone they have hired so that when I get some guy who wants to make improper suggestions or if I get a worker who is ruining it for others, I can get rid of them.

My family and I are going to harvest and plow up our farms and leave them for a while to see if the "fix" gets corrected and if that doesn't happen in the near future, we will be playing elsewhere for other game developers. We should not all have to pay for some ppl's greed.

reaser
Dec 23 2009, 08:03 AM
****[UPDATE]**** Please see the new created thread for latest information

Hi There,

First, the Bert account was hacked recently and there were some posts made on his behalf, we are researching this issue now.

Second, we just released a new version of FarmTown a while ago. As stated before, we were going to focus mainly on the lost XP/Coins issues which are critical at this point. However, in order to minimize the lost XP/Coins issues, we had to make some changes to the way harvesting/plowing works when you are hired.

Before, when multiple people were hired on a farm, everybody starts clicking randomly on every field, and there are a lot of collisions, people harvesting/plowing on the same fields, as you don't see clearly where other people are working.

The new way is this, if you harvest fields that are close to where your avatar is, then your avatar will be teletransported and will be a very quick transition, it should be as quick or comparable to what it was before, however if you click on a field that is farther away, then you will have to wait until your avatar gets to that field to continue working.

This change will make that on some instances you work slower, on the other hand people get more dispersed while working on a farm, you can actually see them where they are working, and there will be much less collisions between them. This will also add another component to the game, now it's not just blindly clicking on the fields, you have to also consider the position of other players and your chances to avoid collisions and to get more work done. Now, when you click on a field that another player did before you, then you will see a message saying "already done", before, there was no feedback at all.

Of course, we know this release will cause a lot of complains as well, because in order to improve one area we had to change the behaivor on another area which some users will not like it, but compared to the issue of frequent losing more XP and coins, we just decided this was the way to go.

So far we have detected that there are 70% less issues with lost XP/coins that before, and it should improve with time even more.

As a separate note, the cursors on the game have been made larger and they don't get overlapped by other items on the game.

Thanks

--Raul

i love this finaly someone has thought this out it makes game play a lot better

ragboat
Dec 23 2009, 08:04 AM
I quickly got back into the old routine I used to use. I also noticed a lot more "Wait I'm Busy" and "Saving" warnings. I even got the dreaded "Connection to server timed out", which pulled me away from a harvest I was hired to do. One step forward, one step back. I'll withhold judgment on the improvement until I play a few more days.
Dave

reaser
Dec 23 2009, 08:04 AM
you guys are doing a great job i used it last night and loved it

pattybowra
Dec 23 2009, 08:07 AM
i cant finish a farm . get timed out on every job

reaser
Dec 23 2009, 08:08 AM
you baby try it out i love it because now i can see whos stealing all land in front of me instead of hiding in a field the greedy punks

reaser
Dec 23 2009, 08:09 AM
work faster

mrjm79@aol.com
Dec 23 2009, 08:23 AM
I agree it is annoyingly slow

sharibalog
Dec 23 2009, 08:24 AM
work faster

it doesn't matter how fast you click now you still have to wait :confused:

Kajunman
Dec 23 2009, 08:25 AM
WHAT were you thinking This NEW WAY is slow and very taxing on peoples nerves.The other system was just fine .IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT!!!!!:mad:

Billy Bob Rob
Dec 23 2009, 08:31 AM
Personally, I like the new way...I hated it when people would just come in and start clickin all over the place....I am trying to harvest and here they come...They will harvest a little place and wait to be hired to plow...That stinks....Keep the new way...I didn't like it at first but now I am used to it...Thanks for trying to help....

picketree
Dec 23 2009, 08:35 AM
Awful at first, I admit...but after a few farms...it is ideal! Keep it this way, we will all get use to it!!

ron_eaton
Dec 23 2009, 08:35 AM
If you had bothered at all to read why they changed it, you'd see that they are doing to fix something that was broken; people were not getting coins or XP in some instances, and it was clearly stated that there's been 70% less problems regarding these. Read the OP before you reply.
you always got all your points. if u would have noticed, you got paid the instance you clicked on a field, both plowing and harvesting, sorry you can't see how the game works. All the people who thought they had to hang around until it was completely finished was wasting there time and the farmer who hired you. next time watch your points and coins as you click on a field, you will see I'm right and u are wrong. this game is so simple that even my 5 yr old grandson can play and not lose a single coin or point.

muffin58
Dec 23 2009, 08:41 AM
I agree with the folks who say that lost xp and coins is preferable to lost real time. I don't have the real time to work at the "old" speed. Can't we find some middle ground?? Could we use a "tractor" and plow 4 fields at once on farms where we're hired? They're solar, so fuel shouldn't be an issue. I'd thought of using a harvester from farm to farm, too, but who'd be responsible for the ownership of the harvester & purchase of the fuel? Complicated. I don't like the change, but I don't want to have to give up FarmTown. Could you find a better fix please?? :confused:

josephine cunningham
Dec 23 2009, 08:41 AM
what is the problem i cant plow now at all or harvest
getting about 4 plows and 4 harvest per farm
this is really getting on my nerves now

i am better off doing my own farm

wake up and do something about this
first lost xps and coins now cant plow or harvest
i just ditch the job everyone else is plowing away what is WRONG
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

queenofthenile
Dec 23 2009, 08:51 AM
I agree Ron Eaton, I always got my points and coins. Never once did I feel I was jipped or lost coins or points.

JAMMER22
Dec 23 2009, 09:02 AM
:mad: Personally I am very disappointed in the new "harvesting/plowing when hired" method. If it was supposed to solve "collision" issues...now I often collide with myself. My own avatar gets in my way. I find myself becoming frustrated because I have to slow down and/or change direction.
Through experience I have built up my speed and ability to do a job well done. Now you are trying to equalize everyone?? What politically correct government has taken over Farmtown?
In my opinion a MUCH SIMPLER solution to the so-called problem would have been to LIMIT THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES that an employer can hire at any given time. NOT continue the ridiculous practice of allowing the hiring of a boatload of people to work one farm. All that animation bogs down pcs anyway.
But if this change is inevitable...WHY does it apply when we work for our neighbors and buddies??? That needs to be fixed!
Also, if we are supposed to click on fields close to our avatar...do you realize we all enter a farm at the same point of entry? Are we not still going to collide???
I am not able to click so slowly. It's boring. No challenge left in playing the "game". Games are about competition. I am being punished for becoming skilled at playing. Thus I will no longer go to the Market Place seeking employment. I will find another game with which to spend my free time.
One last note...I am also now "colliding" with the gigantic cursors? A bag of seed bigger than a 4 square? Geezz. I don't get the reasoning for that at all.

vmalika
Dec 23 2009, 09:10 AM
I'm sorry but this new version stinks because everyone starts harvesting or plowing in the same area. It's frustrating when you are working on an area and someone takes it over because they were closer. I am having ahard time keeping workers to finish the job.

Please return to other version,. It was so much faster and more enjoyable. I think you will be finding a lot less people playing because of this change. Also, the new large graphic is annoying while working on a farm. The older version is much more efficient and I have never had a problem with lost coins or xp points.

Not a lot of people post in these forums so it might be a better idea to get a true feel if you go into the marketplace and see what people are saying. The majority are not happy. Granted there are some who like it but I think you are going to find a decrease in the number of players if this new version is kept.

Thank you

vmalika
Dec 23 2009, 09:14 AM
I have a great suggestion that would help appease all. Make an option to Fire people!! You could have a little icon of Donald Trump pointing and saying "You're Fired!" :D

This would allow people to rid their farm of random clickers! Also you can go back to the version where you don't have to wait forever for your avatar to get to a new area.

AuntieAmy
Dec 23 2009, 09:19 AM
First of all, let me say I've loved Farmtown,,,,up until this point. I have read many opinions and views of how this new way is "improved" and have tried to be understanding of everyone's views. I have always been a curteous harvester/plower, and watch the squares around me to try and not invade other peoples areas. But I have to say, the slowness of this new change is very frusterating. I can't even move 3 squares ahead of my avatar without getting those annoying, "Wait, I'm Busy" messages, then I have to constantly backtrack to get all the squares I missed due to the slowness. It takes twice as long to harvest/plow now. It's not worth it. If this is the only way to fix the hiring problems, i guess I'll have to deal with it. But is it worth it if it takes me a 1/2 hour to do 10 or 15 min worth of work now? I used to love how I could just pop into FT on a break, or duing lunch to get some work done, but now I can't afford the extra time. FarmVILLE is now faster than FarmTOWN and I find myself utilizing that application more now. Yes, it's a game, but people have the right to enjoy the fastness of the way it used to be and not be criticized. I'm not sure why one would want it to be slower? I've never run into people trying to cut in front of me while working a field, and if so, so what? There are many people waiting to hire workers. It's better than waiitng for my avatar to catch up and backtracking.

CynthiaSue
Dec 23 2009, 09:20 AM
Great, I really believe I didn't get all my points this morning. I should have gone up a level. I have 1500 plots and I only went up 3400 points and I had them all harvested and plowed this morning and then I reseeded. This way is definitely out now for me. I even plowed some on someones field this morning.

I see now what is wrong. I could swear I seeded my second farm, but it is not seeded. So at least I didn't really lose any points, just time. I could swear I seeded it while I was waiting for the person to finish plowing my first farm, but I could be wrong. I will go back and seed it "again". Sorry for an incorrect post.

Billy Bob Rob
Dec 23 2009, 09:24 AM
:mad: Personally I am very disappointed in the new "harvesting/plowing when hired" method. If it was supposed to solve "collision" issues...now I often collide with myself. My own avatar gets in my way. I find myself becoming frustrated because I have to slow down and/or change direction.
Through experience I have built up my speed and ability to do a job well done. Now you are trying to equalize everyone?? What politically correct government has taken over Farmtown?
In my opinion a MUCH SIMPLER solution to the so-called problem would have been to LIMIT THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES that an employer can hire at any given time. NOT continue the ridiculous practice of allowing the hiring of a boatload of people to work one farm. All that animation bogs down pcs anyway.
But if this change is inevitable...WHY does it apply when we work for our neighbors and buddies??? That needs to be fixed!
Also, if we are supposed to click on fields close to our avatar...do you realize we all enter a farm at the same point of entry? Are we not still going to collide???
I am not able to click so slowly. It's boring. No challenge left in playing the "game". Games are about competition. I am being punished for becoming skilled at playing. Thus I will no longer go to the Market Place seeking employment. I will find another game with which to spend my free time.
One last note...I am also now "colliding" with the gigantic cursors? A bag of seed bigger than a 4 square? Geezz. I don't get the reasoning for that at all.

Excellent point...Employee limit....I hate it when I go in a small farm and there are 10 people ther just clickin away...I usually leave......

I have a great suggestion that would help appease all. Make an option to Fire people!! You could have a little icon of Donald Trump pointing and saying "You're Fired!" :D

This would allow people to rid their farm of random clickers! Also you can go back to the version where you don't have to wait forever for your avatar to get to a new area.

I have been a big fan of a FIRE button....I would use it for sure....

shadowfa11
Dec 23 2009, 09:24 AM
Couple of things really here... the first is that it is now incredibly slower for me to get any thing done on WMF1. I thought it was so slow I no longer had a saving problem but that isn't true either. I just have to painfully wait for the avatar to do one field at a time even standing next to the fields. Also, the new Icons are about 500% too big and get in the way of trying to work all by them selves. You could REALLY tune down the size and activate at least limited field queing.

Julia2654
Dec 23 2009, 09:30 AM
I just tested it out. No problem, and I had a blast with the farmer that I was working for. Sure, it's slower. But I always know where my avotard is now, my xp and coins are right on, and guess what --- folks need to be careful what they ask for -- they just might get it!! :D:D

barbara.luck
Dec 23 2009, 09:32 AM
for those complaining about losing coins and points.. did you notice the saveutton... i have found that after about every 100 fields i use the disk button and i dont seem to lose any of my points or coins... make use of it thats what they gave it to us for... it may take a second to use but its better than losing... besides do you really need to be that greedy that you cant take the time to use it

Betty_Jo_Brown
Dec 23 2009, 09:34 AM
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!:)

Lesley1607
Dec 23 2009, 09:36 AM
I like the new method, if you harvest or plow in an organised way - which I always have - it's just as quick as it was before, if not quicker, and all the people who just click all over the place can't do it anymore. I p[ersonally hope it doesn't get changed back as it's far better. The one thing I do hate though it the new big cursor icons, they're horrid.

kennywood™
Dec 23 2009, 09:40 AM
Is that the people who were reporting the were losing XP's were probably wrong...

Before the previous update, (the most recent update prior to today's) when you clicked away on the fields, the XP's and coins were "awarded" as your avatar "worked" the fields. If you left the field before the avatar finished working the fields, the remaining XP's "floated out of your head" on the next screen...

AFTER the previous update, (the most recent update prior to today's), XP's and coins were awarded as the field was clicked, NOT as it was "worked" by the avatar, so, by time the whole farm was done and you left, there WERE NO xp's or coins to be awarded any longer as they were all already received. They were NOT missing...



I hate this new update. I think it is unnecessary and unfortunate.

In response to your very first sentence here,"...the people who were reporting the were losing XP's were probably wrong..." No, we were NOT wrong. I'm not going to go into the details of what was happening, since it's been well documented elsewhere, but XPs and coins WERE, in fact, being lost on a daily basis. I kept a detailed log of additions/losses for at least 3 weeks while the issue was at it's worst and even took some video to back up my claims. While what you've stated here might have been the case for SOME, the vast majority, of those who staked claims in the thousands of pages of posts regarding the issue, WERE losing coins and points.

lavanah
Dec 23 2009, 09:40 AM
I really like the change. The big seed bag is a good idea. It helps to remind you of what you are planting and makes sure you have the right bag.
I also like the avatar being right there where I am harvesting. Good change.

Tammy1968
Dec 23 2009, 09:44 AM
I don't like it, not one little bit.

Gembira
Dec 23 2009, 09:45 AM
I guess you are now going back to the old messy way. At first, I didn't like this change - but as soon as I got used to it, I actually liked it alot! Oh well...thanks for working so hard on this. Really appreciate it!

Lesley1607
Dec 23 2009, 09:46 AM
I really like the change. The big seed bag is a good idea. It helps to remind you of what you are planting and makes sure you have the right bag.
I also like the avatar being right there where I am harvesting. Good change.

I agree, but unfortunately we seem to be in the minority and it's going to change back, which is a real pain :(

sarah'snana
Dec 23 2009, 09:46 AM
this new way stinks. I cannot tell where someone has plowed or harvested. The money & xp points do not show up. When I get through plowing or haresting what I thnk was my work, this message comes up: "already done". Does this mean I did the work & someone else is getting paid xp for it. Then when I click on my avatar is says "saving" or "Wait i'm busy".

Lynjoe
Dec 23 2009, 09:52 AM
It would be great if farmers could harvest/plow maybe 2 squares instead of one, which would speed up the process and maybe eliminate the need to hire more than 1 or 2 farmers to do the job. I, personally would like to see a limit set on the number of farmers which can be hired at the same time. If I go to the marketplace and stand there and wait, it's frustrating to be hired on a farm with 15 other farmers, it takes only 2 minutes to finish, and then I have to go back to the marketplace and start all over again to try and get a "good" job. The size of the farm, the number of neighbors, the level, etc. could regulate the number of farmers who can be hired.

JAMMER22
Dec 23 2009, 09:53 AM
I like the new method, if you harvest or plow in an organised way - which I always have - it's just as quick as it was before, if not quicker, and all the people who just click all over the place can't do it anymore. I p[ersonally hope it doesn't get changed back as it's far better. The one thing I do hate though it the new big cursor icons, they're horrid.

Then you must not be very quick to begin with because it is MUCH SLOWER especially when plowing. I am organized AND quick. This method punishes fast, experienced players.
Go back to the way it was and JUST LIMIT THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT CAN BE HIRED PER JOB!

Renee627
Dec 23 2009, 09:53 AM
what I did like about the new change was the fact that the greedy people couldnt just click all over the screen anymore. for those of us who like to work(harvest) in rows the new change is nice. But its the people who just randomly click all over as fast as they can to be greedy and mess it up for the rest of us, they are the people who dont like it. And as far as speed, your avater can move as fast as you can click, as long as you are moveing in rows or close proximity of your avatar.

Lesley1607
Dec 23 2009, 09:55 AM
Then you must not be very quick to begin with because it is MUCH SLOWER especially when plowing. I am organized AND quick. This method punishes fast, experienced players.
Go back to the way it was and JUST LIMIT THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT CAN BE HIRED PER JOB!

Actualy you are wrong, I have always been a VERY QUICK harvester and plower, I usually do about the same amount myself as 3 others together when I'm hired so NO I don't agreed with you - I've just done the whole of my friends farm in about the same time it took me before and really don't see what people are complaining about.

I do agree about setting a limit on the number of hires though, there is nothing more annoying that being one of about 10 people on a small field

M8TGMAN
Dec 23 2009, 10:00 AM
i cant believe farmtown slowed this game to a standstill once again...i fell in love with clicking plots to harvest and not[/font] having to wait and wait....this new way is really depressing to say the least and i do have many more words to use but not here !!

M8TGMAN
Dec 23 2009, 10:01 AM
I cant believe they went back to the old way of harvesting it really sucks and is so slow

LifeDontWasteIt
Dec 23 2009, 10:02 AM
Please go back to the speed and the way it was. It is now so slow, I hate to be hired or to hire anyone.

Thanks.

Dumbing down of FarmTown?! Have you lost your minds? I won't work on any farm until this is fixed. What could you have possibly been thinking? Oh liberal, make it fair, slow and unproductive for everyone! DUH. I truly cannot believe anyone thought slower was a good idea - ever. This is a free market style game, keep it that way. History proves it's a winner. Socialism stinks.

CoachR
Dec 23 2009, 10:04 AM
The only people benifiting from the old way are the ones who bounce all over a farm either just clicking like mad or those using an app like mouse tractor to cheat. Take your time plow/harvest in straight lines and enjoy the game and the company of fellow farmers.

Tyler45
Dec 23 2009, 10:06 AM
read the updated post by Raul. ;)

JAMMER22
Dec 23 2009, 10:06 AM
what I did like about the new change was the fact that the greedy people couldnt just click all over the screen anymore. for those of us who like to work(harvest) in rows the new change is nice. But its the people who just randomly click all over as fast as they can to be greedy and mess it up for the rest of us, they are the people who dont like it. And as far as speed, your avater can move as fast as you can click, as long as you are moveing in rows or close proximity of your avatar.
WRONG...I harvest/plow in rows and I do NOT like it! My avatar can NOT keep up with my clicks. I have to click slower now! If I click as quickly as before I have to go back on every row and reclick the ones that were missed due to the "Wait...I'm busy" message. And I and the farmer I am working for are the ones that end up "waiting".

MaureenL1
Dec 23 2009, 10:07 AM
I'm very disappointed with how Farm Town has reconfigured its harvesting/plowing techniques. It takes far longer than it did previously and it's getting to the point that I don't even want to play anymore! When are you going back to the old configuration?

evangail49
Dec 23 2009, 10:09 AM
Well, I wont have ham this year for Christmas....
I will be eating crow... or my size 13 shoe....
I posted a rant about how I hated the changes... may I say tot he following:

1. The Dev's and the mod's : I am sorry for stupid & unkind remarks. I was wrong about the changes.
2. To FT fans and friends & neighbors: I am sorry to you as well. I was wrong to post when my emotions over took my common sense and I also said un-Christians things and certainly not a Christmas attitude as well. I was deeply and profoundly wrong.
3. I apologize to all I have offended and ask for your forgiveness for the total message and it's content. It serves me right by not allowing me to delete it.
It proves that adage that one cannot recall spoken or written words after they have been written or spoken.
Please forgive my poor and self-centered attitude towards all concerned!!

free1indeed
Dec 23 2009, 10:10 AM
I'm very disappointed with how Farm Town has reconfigured its harvesting/plowing techniques. It takes far longer than it did previously and it's getting to the point that I don't even want to play anymore! When are you going back to the old configuration?

Heaven forbid you should ever have to slow down for anything. Some of us aren't into being run over just so you and those like you can go as fast as possible. No offense meant but good grief.

Baby_J
Dec 23 2009, 10:13 AM
I think you guys are doing a great job. Thankyou soooo much for the game. Merry Christmas

gary howard
Dec 23 2009, 10:16 AM
thank you it is the first time i could pick and plow...DO NOT CHANGE BACK !!!!

FranBoyd
Dec 23 2009, 10:17 AM
Kudos to the devs and mods for their tireless work on the project. As a previous person said, "You can't please all the people all the time". However, since suggestions to make life a bit easier on the farm are being solicted, I'm happy to give my humble input.

I do like the suggestion of limiting the amount of harvesters/plowers on your field to avoid collisions. Would it be possible to limit those numbers according to the size of your farm? First and second level sizes get one harvester/one plower. Next two levels get 2 harvesters/2 plowers, etc. The more space you have, the more room you have to work and less collisions.

I do understand that some huge farms don't have alot of fields on them and more decorations, so I don't know if the game can detect how much you have harvesting versus how much decorations.

Thanks again for a neat game!

blondie03
Dec 23 2009, 10:20 AM
I kinda liked the old way now it seems like its so slow n takes u 4ever 2 harvest or plow but u know whats best! And i purchased a playgroung for 30,000 coins and it didnt put the playground on my farm it only took my coins. If u could plz i wd like 2 have my playground on my farm! Ty 4 trying 2 help us!!!!!

gstrain2009
Dec 23 2009, 10:26 AM
i too loved the old way of harvest and plow. tryed the new way last night and found that it takes way too long to do a farm. i too have lost money and xps. but realize that life and a game like farm town is a balance( if you loose today... tomorrow you will make it up. why cry over a few lost dollars and xp's .. keep this game fun not complicated. my good news to share is i am almost a 60 and simpley love the new trees, and structures.

kiss2dee@aol.com
Dec 23 2009, 10:30 AM
I do like the fact that you can harvest without someone else being a Harvest/Plow hog but its so slow. If you could speed this up I could deal with it. Atleast you don't have to worry about loosing XP's or coins. I am at level 60 and wondering will you make more levels so I can still enjoy the game?

Kelsey
Dec 23 2009, 10:32 AM
Well, I wont have ham this year for Christmas....
I will be eating crow... or my size 13 shoe....
I posted a rant about how I hated the changes... may I say tot he following:

1. The Dev's and the mod's : I am sorry for stupid & unkind remarks. I was wrong about the changes.
2. To FT fans and friends & neighbors: I am sorry to you as well. I was wrong to post when my emotions over took my common sense and I also said un-Christians things and certainly not a Christmas attitude as well. I was deeply and profoundly wrong.
3. I apologize to all I have offended and ask for your forgiveness for the total message and it's content. It serves me right by not allowing me to delete it.
It proves that adage that one cannot recall spoken or written words after they have been written or spoken.
Please forgive my poor and self-centered attitude towards all concerned!!

evangail - you would not be a true Christian if you were not able to show your true self and then come out and apologize for it. A true Christian is NOT perfect by any means, a true Christian does get carried away (I myself have on this forum gotten carried away and have had to eat my crow and apologize for wrong and one time a hurtful post) BUT a true Christian will also come back to Christ and ask for forgiveness. I believe that it shows true strength of character to be able to come back and make a post such as yours.

Now - because religious discussion is not allowed on the forum (or political etc for obvious reasons) - I want to say that ASIDE from evangail being a Christian (or myself for that matter) - the post made was excellent and serves as a warning for all of us that written words, once put out there, are there - we may be able to edit or delete, but at times we cannot and we must choose our words carefully and do our best to be part of the forum community and not riotous 'animals' that just post willy nilly and without thought or care for our fellow forum members.

MaureenL1
Dec 23 2009, 10:38 AM
I thought we were able to express our opinions, good or bad without getting slammed by other players! Apparently there are those of us who feel that they can attack anyone for feeling differently then they do. How sad...:(

catmitch
Dec 23 2009, 10:38 AM
This is much better and u do not lose the exp points! you do not have to wait at the site until the points catch up Please leave it. It is great.:)

DLeach
Dec 23 2009, 10:41 AM
But it is ever so much slower - behaves like Farmville which I loathe. Click and wait, click and wait.

Lord Stefan
Dec 23 2009, 10:42 AM
Kudos to the devs and mods for their tireless work on the project. As a previous person said, "You can't please all the people all the time". However, since suggestions to make life a bit easier on the farm are being solicted, I'm happy to give my humble input.

I do like the suggestion of limiting the amount of harvesters/plowers on your field to avoid collisions. Would it be possible to limit those numbers according to the size of your farm? First and second level sizes get one harvester/one plower. Next two levels get 2 harvesters/2 plowers, etc. The more space you have, the more room you have to work and less collisions.

I do understand that some huge farms don't have alot of fields on them and more decorations, so I don't know if the game can detect how much you have harvesting versus how much decorations.

Thanks again for a neat game!

Well said

Notice it is the same people *****ing and complaining now that were *****ing and complaining about the lost XP and coins etc? Wah wah, if I don't get my every whim I'm going to quit the game. 'Ok, go ahead and quit', is what I would say. But the devs are nicer than me so they have decided to change it back to the way it was . Now, will the whiners shut up and just enjoy the game. It is, after all, free. The paid items have always been 100% optional.

Stop trying to spoil the game for those of us who are just here to enjoy ourselves.

Lord Stefan has spoken

SuzanneM52
Dec 23 2009, 10:46 AM
I find this morning that the avatar is a bit faster than yesterday. Now THIS is da bomb!!! I think the new upgrade is a great one and it appears to make things alot more fair for everyone. You can clearly see where you and others have been and there are no collisions.....I like what one poster suggested about limiting the number of people working on a farm according to the size of the farm perhaps?

ranchere
Dec 23 2009, 10:47 AM
after getting used to it i like the new because it eliminates the "hackers"who just go in and start clicking everywhere., very anoying. thank you.

rockets
Dec 23 2009, 10:48 AM
Well said

Notice it is the same people *****ing and complaining now that were *****ing and complaining about the lost XP and coins etc? Wah wah, if I don't get my every whim I'm going to quit the game. 'Ok, go ahead and quit', is what I would say. But the devs are nicer than me so they have decided to change it back to the way it was . Now, will the whiners shut up and just enjoy the game. It is, after all, free. The paid items have always been 100% optional.

Stop trying to spoil the game for those of us who are just here to enjoy ourselves.

Lord Stefan has spoken

Sorry Stefan I don't normally complain about things, but i do hate this new thing. It is too slow and very tedious. I won't quit if they don't change back, but I won't be playing as often. Btw, I know nobody cares if I play or not. This is just my opinion just like the above is yours.

Merry Christmas to all of you!

Lesley1607
Dec 23 2009, 10:51 AM
But it is ever so much slower - behaves like Farmville which I loathe. Click and wait, click and wait.

It isn't though, myself and another player have just harevsted a whole big farm in no time at all - we were both really quick. If you harvest or plow in straight lines it's just as quick as before, if not quicker. I really prefer this new method and wish it wasn't being changed back.

JAMMER22
Dec 23 2009, 10:55 AM
after getting used to it i like the new because it eliminates the "hackers"who just go in and start clicking everywhere., very anoying. thank you.

The new method is NOT necessary when you are working for a neighbor or buddy. All it accomplishes is slowing you down.
I personally think the appropriate solution to the so-called "colllision" problem would have been to LIMIT THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT COULD BE HIRED instead of changing the harvesting/plowing method.

JAMMER22
Dec 23 2009, 11:00 AM
It isn't though, myself and another player have just harevsted a whole big farm in no time at all - we were both really quick. If you harvest or plow in straight lines it's just as quick as before, if not quicker. I really prefer this new method and wish it wasn't being changed back.

I'm sorry...it may be just a quick for YOU. But it is NOT for most others! I harvest and plow in straight lines and did so MUCH FASTER with the previous method...especially plowing!
Understand?

Lord Stefan
Dec 23 2009, 11:01 AM
Sorry Stefan I don't normally complain about things, but i do hate this new thing. It is too slow and very tedious. I won't quit if they don't change back, but I won't be playing as often. Btw, I know nobody cares if I play or not. This is just my opinion just like the above is yours.

Merry Christmas to all of you!

Merry Christmas to you too.
Yes we are all expressing our opinions. Some do this more vocally than others and in a more childish and demanding way.
This new system may be a bit slower and maybe tedious to some, but when you get to the end of the job you do now have to wait until it all saves (which often took quite a bit of time). Much of the lost coins and XP were due to farmers leaving a job before allowing the work to save.
This has been my experience thus far.


Anyhow, the devs said by the end of the day they will change things back. Expect the old problems as well. :-) It's only fair.


Stefan

laborday95
Dec 23 2009, 11:17 AM
I don't even understand why they did this (even after reading their "explanation"). In my experience, the problem was solved as soon as the implemented the change which allowed points and coins to be awarded as soon as you clicked on a field to plow it. I've been harvesting and plowing super fast with NO lost coins or points. I did not have to wait for the job to finish. It was all working perfectly! As soon as I click on a field, I received the point and/or coins immediately, and none were lost when I left the farm. Maybe they need to look at my farm to see why everything worked so well, then carry it over to other farms....;)

This new/old version (new to me, as I have only been on Farmtown a few months) is TERRIBLE! It takes WAY longer to plow or harvest, and often it doesn't show the fields that have already been plowed or harvested. So I click in one corner, and wait and wait for my avatar to get there, only for it to say "Already done." DOH!

Everything was fine before, but now it takes so long to harvest and plow, that it's not even worth it. I'm starting a Farmville farm.

Thank you for your attempt, but I don't think you guys are fully thinking these changes through and how they are going to impact players. I've seen nothing but posts of protests. Just look at your Forums. Maybe they are not posted in the right threads, but they are there.

JAMMER22
Dec 23 2009, 11:28 AM
:D Thank you for listening! I look forward to you changing it back.

iamdrchic
Dec 23 2009, 11:28 AM
Yuk. Took me 20 minutes to harvest a field of cabbage. I appreciate all of the hard work the devs do to better this game, but I agree that this is a step backward.

But, being the addict that I am, I will keep playing! I love FT and love 99.99% of all the upgrades- THANKS DEVS!!

Merry Christmas to all!

tomjw217
Dec 23 2009, 11:34 AM
Thanks for changing FT back to the way it was prior to Dec 21. I'm sure a lot of work went into the changes, but I'm glad to see harvesting/plowing stacking again. This is SO much better. :)

shadowfa11
Dec 23 2009, 11:35 AM
I almost hate to wander back into all of this lol but.. what a lot of people don't seem to realize is that the updates are one problem and the servers people are on which comes up in other threads is another. My server apparently is old and lame like a 3 legged sheep. So this update was a killer. I have to wait or double click every single field I want to harvest and it still won't save worth a da... On the other hand I hired someone this morning who burned through half my farm in 5 minutes. For me.. being able to que fields and then just ignore the game while the server catches up means a lot. Also for some reason, my planting has gotten much slower with this update so yeah going back or somewhere in the middle would be really nice for me.

aremos
Dec 23 2009, 11:36 AM
To eliminate all this collision of avatars (which is due in part to greedy farmers) instead of changing how we plow, why not limit the number of hires to 1. There is no added advantage to hiring more than one farmer, you don't get more money or points for it. A lot of farmers stick to hiring one person, and it works out well. I think you should make so you can only hire 1 person to work. That's my 2 cents.

hanz4talkn@yahoo.com
Dec 23 2009, 11:37 AM
I don't understand....the changes brought the harvesting and plowing all the way back to this summer...I had to hire 5 people to harvest and plow to do the job of 1 or 2 people...what were you trying to accomplish, exactly!??? Thank you!

samjr
Dec 23 2009, 11:41 AM
speed is there any way of going like half way between old an new way in a way this is nice it stops all the speed demons an gives others a chance

samjr
Dec 23 2009, 11:45 AM
one or two would be great some people are playing while on lunch so it's to there benifit to be able to hire at least 2 people

katrina719
Dec 23 2009, 11:49 AM
after getting used to it i like the new because it eliminates the "hackers"who just go in and start clicking everywhere., very anoying. thank you.


That's what I said on page # 42 and then everyone jumped on me LOL...

Hackers /cheaters... I am a turbo harvester and plower, and I welcome the change... or I can go back to the old. I love the game no matter what. I built my PC 7 years ago, and for FT I added more memory back in May.

On the other hand slow clickers and slow computers should not be complaining...anymore than the faster ones.

You don't ask a developer to change a game because your computer is old and slow as are your fingers... and you don't ask a developer to change the game because you are in a hurry and "it takes too long". Farming is there 24/7 and if your time is too short.... go play Farmville LMAO

No rose garden promises, but a solid game provided for FREE.

batmn812
Dec 23 2009, 11:51 AM
To eliminate all this collision of avatars (which is due in part to greedy farmers) instead of changing how we plow, why not limit the number of hires to 1. There is no added advantage to hiring more than one farmer, you don't get more money or points for it. A lot of farmers stick to hiring one person, and it works out well. I think you should make so you can only hire 1 person to work. That's my 2 cents.




i agree with the most part of this opinion but 2 is better then one if the limit was that it would be better and a little faster

Kelsey
Dec 23 2009, 11:57 AM
Now THERE'S a Christian attitude. Gotta love that picture of the Bible in tandem with "go jump in a lake and take the horse you came in with too"

Did you not also read the apology posted by this person??
Your post does not seem to add anything to the thread besides trying to start something ...

I read the apology and accepted it - people make comments in the heat of the moment and when they ask for forgiveness, should be extended it.

I still like the new way - no problems with it at all.
Hope that they don't revert ...

jnurse
Dec 23 2009, 12:01 PM
****[UPDATE]**** Please see the new created thread for latest information

Hi There,

First, the Bert account was hacked recently and there were some posts made on his behalf, we are researching this issue now.

Second, we just released a new version of FarmTown a while ago. As stated before, we were going to focus mainly on the lost XP/Coins issues which are critical at this point. However, in order to minimize the lost XP/Coins issues, we had to make some changes to the way harvesting/plowing works when you are hired.

Before, when multiple people were hired on a farm, everybody starts clicking randomly on every field, and there are a lot of collisions, people harvesting/plowing on the same fields, as you don't see clearly where other people are working.

The new way is this, if you harvest fields that are close to where your avatar is, then your avatar will be teletransported and will be a very quick transition, it should be as quick or comparable to what it was before, however if you click on a field that is farther away, then you will have to wait until your avatar gets to that field to continue working.

This change will make that on some instances you work slower, on the other hand people get more dispersed while working on a farm, you can actually see them where they are working, and there will be much less collisions between them. This will also add another component to the game, now it's not just blindly clicking on the fields, you have to also consider the position of other players and your chances to avoid collisions and to get more work done. Now, when you click on a field that another player did before you, then you will see a message saying "already done", before, there was no feedback at all.

Of course, we know this release will cause a lot of complains as well, because in order to improve one area we had to change the behaivor on another area which some users will not like it, but compared to the issue of frequent losing more XP and coins, we just decided this was the way to go.

So far we have detected that there are 70% less issues with lost XP/coins that before, and it should improve with time even more.

As a separate note, the cursors on the game have been made larger and they don't get overlapped by other items on the game.

Thanks

--Raul

It has made it so much longer to get through it. ever click youhave to stop and wait, every single one, or it says wait i am busy. I hate it, i cant hardly get anything done, its awful, to say the least. sorry , i am not trying to be difficult, it is just taking forever to get any coins or xp's

jnurse
Dec 23 2009, 12:01 PM
please fix it so it will be faster, i hate it, i cant get anything done,

Flopsy1
Dec 23 2009, 12:06 PM
We all hate, hate, hate this new plow/harvest system. Go back to the old way or we will quit playing under these stupid systems

batmn812
Dec 23 2009, 12:17 PM
i hate this but what can you play along i geuss im level60 and i got there bye playing fair and bye not being greedy i never lost one xp or any coins i think someone better keep a better eye one the game and enjoy it its free and it was fun but now it is just to stressful to play ill just hire more people to harvest and plow or ill just do it myself ..
now thats alot of xps that people wont be getting from me i have two farms full of nothing but pineapples i hire two people whitch in my opinion is enough to do the job ..over hireing is stupid to fix the problem is just to fix it to where you can only hire so many people to harvest and plow ..you have came so far with this game it is a shame to have to go back to the begining becouse someone is crying over a few lost coins or xps ...i have 60 neighbors and none of them like the new changes

jenee7820
Dec 23 2009, 12:18 PM
I really hate this upgrade, I would rather lose coins and xp points than have it this way. I appreciate the fact that you are trying to fix the problems, but if it stays like this I am done playing Farm Town.

I agree. Ive been playing for a while now. i have farmtown on myspace and facebook. if it stays like this ill end up deleting mine too. it took my 20 mins to harvest/plow a field!

Shaldimar
Dec 23 2009, 12:19 PM
On a much lighter note I just have to add my two cents worth to the developers. I LOVE Farm Town, and no matter what you guys do, there are plenty of us who realize the load you have before you and appreciate everything you do. I have no complaints, and will deal with any little bugs that pop up along the way and will continue to enjoy Farm Town through every update/change you make. Enough of us realize that it is Beta and know that things must change along the way, sometimes for better, or sometimes for worse. One day it will be complete and will be more than worth the patience of sensible users who can see the big picture. Keep it up guys and gals, and don't sweat the small stuff. We love you!!!!

illumi
Dec 23 2009, 12:20 PM
well i think its great that you tried to fix the xp/coin problem, and i really like the new way of harvesting. but for the first time in a long time i got booted today, not only once but a few times. When i get hired, i harvest the crops and get no points or coins anymore, because it shows ALREADY DONE all the way through, and the worse part is that i have to wait at least 10 times as long as usual for the points to add up or just 10 times longer for the Already done message to show on all the plots i worked on till i can move or do anything again.. This is very bad....I like the new way, but the issues must be fixed, until then i guess rolling it back is a good idea :(
I cant work for anyone anymore :( because of this.

wsbohannon
Dec 23 2009, 12:21 PM
well i harvest and plowed today with the new method and it was actually ok! Yessterday was a nightmare and I complained. Today it seems faster and I had no problems......

carolellen
Dec 23 2009, 12:25 PM
Am so glad we're going back to the old system! The downgrade from yesterday has made it more difficult to harvest and plow, especially when working with others. I love Farm Town and appreciate all the good things the developers have done.

marizera
Dec 23 2009, 12:26 PM
Your header on Farmtown today says 'restoring the old version' ' due to popular demand' -- i could love a re-count. Mine is, do not go back to the old version. I have only had trouble over the last 5 days, that may be due to the increased volume, I found that if i stayed on the farm until my mini me was done with the work and i would get all my points. that is pretty much what you have done with the conversion back to the old version, but now i dont have the fingers available to chat with the other farmers.

RECOUNT PLEASE.. Thanks!

CoDa
Dec 23 2009, 12:38 PM
My avatar is like Superman on speed!! Not only have Bert and the team put it back but made it 100% better! Try going to the top of a row you want to harvest. Do the click thing all the way down the row. When your avatar reaches the first plot... ZOOM!! He's there at the end ...finished!
Thanks again dev team.