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ChickiePooh
May 12 2010, 09:55 PM
Why can't people be happy with what the developers have already given us, I have spent a few dollars here and there to buy things like extended farms and factories , but I was also happy before I bought them , just playing the game escaping the real world and making FarmTown my fantasy world to escape to . Thanks FarmTown for saving my Sanity , special Thanxs to the Developers

First of all, I LOVE FarmTown, even with the glitches. It is WAY better than that OTHER popular game I won't mention. FarmTown gives me the opportunity to play with my sister and niece and meet some other very facinating people from around the world!!!!!

BUT... and here is a MAJOR BUT, I have been frustrated with several issues with my account and had to start a new FB account just to start a new FT account without the glitches. I have three major glitches on my account that they can't/won't fix. They claim it is with FB, but it is also with their game.

I have spent actual $$$ on this game for entertainment purposes, but part of the developer's job is to fix issues and not ignore them or 'pass the buck' to Facebook.

My latest issue is not being able to help out with my neighbors/friends facilities. Which I believe ties into having no 'friends' on my gifting page, which ties into having 7 neighbors I can't get rid of when they quit playing then disabled the app on Facebook and finally removed me as their FB friend.

This issue with the neighbors is a major one, widely exclaimed by many as their issue also. I have gone along with this issue for over ONE YEAR waiting for someone to fix the glitch, which the developers claimed to have fixed last year, but really didn't.

There are many many times within these forums that the moderators/administrators have advised people (who wanted to quit play and delete their account) to just block the app on Facebook. Needless to say, they all need to modify their advise to include the following **BE SURE TO NOTIFY ALL YOUR FACEBOOK FRIENDS THAT YOU ARE QUITTING / BLOCKING THE APPLICATION SO THEY CAN REMOVE YOU AS A NEIGHBOR BEFORE YOU QUIT PLAYING, OTHERWISE YOU WILL INADVERTENTLY CAUSE THEIR FARMTOWN ACCOUNT TO HAVE ISSUES WE CAN'T FIX**

So, yes, I started a new farm on another FB account just to enjoy the game again without the glitches. But I really wish/hope/pray they will take some time to fix this old issue that I really BELIEVE is creating many, many other issues with the game.

Or at least give people the option of deleting the game entirely and starting over with the same name and on the same Facebook account. I'm willing to do this just to get a glitch free game (at least for a while until there is a new glitch the developers can't/won't fix, but if I can delete the account and start over when it is as bad as it is now, then I may be willing to start over again, or quit playing if I'm not).

That being said, I know the developers work hard at their jobs, but their customer service skills need sharpened. Don't ignore the growing mob that will lose you more people. Don't give that other popular game the edge over you.

ChrissieD
May 12 2010, 10:38 PM
Not sure if this is in the right section. BUT, that farmer that pops up and "reminds" me to send gifts is ANNOYING. Even if I have already sent my gifts for the day.....I still get that pop up and not just a couple times a day.......but.......a BUNCH of times a day. Can someone add an option to turn that off?

I'm glad it isn't just me that finds this really irritating.

TNman
May 13 2010, 12:11 AM
Hey, I love the changes and the new facilities. These are great additions, but I want to be able to purchase cocoa and olive tress from the store. I have paid farm town cash for the facilities and am at the mercy of my neighbors who don't read the gift requests carefully. Please if there are trees that are required for production, place them in the store.

Also, can you find some kind of production facility that makes use of the wool from the sheep and lamas? I want to use it and not just sell it.

Why not let use use the goose eggs for baking? An egg is an egg.

Last point for now, ofter the option of a white pizza make with olive oil, goat cheese and garlic. Tasty and a new challenge.

Thanks for a great game.

TNman
May 13 2010, 12:19 AM
I full agree with this and want to be able to grind the coffee.

TNman
May 13 2010, 12:38 AM
Maybe you were asleep... they came out at the same time as the celery, grape tomatoes etc etc (last update basically). They unlock at level 34

Thank you so much for this spreadsheet!! It is incredible and you have done, what I don't have the time to do. GREAT JOB!!:D:D:D

Katlee53
May 13 2010, 12:48 AM
I love the new items, Raul and I know you must have some good ideas for new things for the future. I'd like to give you my wish list: Cucumber plants to make pickles in the food preserver, a coffee grinder, corn oil in the oil factory, pumpkin pie or muffins in the bakery and, of course, farm #4. I am seriously addicted to this game-------just love it!!!!! Need more land and more stuff!!!!! Now, back to farming. Thanks again!

Katlee53
May 13 2010, 12:52 AM
Oh yes, TNman, being able to use the goose eggs would be great. Good idea.

Katlee53
May 13 2010, 01:02 AM
I'm not sure why there are some complaining about a few dollars for certain items from the store. That is kind of what gaming is about. Most of the items on farm town are free so play all you want with those items. I chose to buy some of the factories just to enhance my game, but I wouldn't have to do that to have fun with it. I don't go to movies or concerts, so this is pretty cheap compared to those activities.

SueHacker
May 13 2010, 02:12 AM
You grow corn, then process it in the little water wheel building. Forgot the exact term for it... but it's that little one with a wheel in the water that people use on their rivers. You may already have one. I have two.. was hoping to get double duty out of them but.. no such luck!!

Thank you! And to another who answered also. Luckily I already have one (water mill) :)so now to planting the corn, buying the olive factory and I am set!

zimberg
May 13 2010, 05:51 AM
Wow, thank you so much for all the new updates! I can't wait to try some out! I just got a new farm yesterday just for facilities, so I'll have plenty of room for them :)

I also now understand why people are so upset when they can't move their animals! lol

Hello Brad

I also thought if my animals were not on the same farm as my facility I would lose product....not so - all animals on farm 1 and facilities on farm 2

Regards, Claudia, Johannesburg South Africa

Berferd
May 13 2010, 11:07 AM
Me again.. I believe people have the right to complain about "Farm Bucks"..
It's not like they aren't making money off of a "free" game.
It's a billion dollar industry.. not to mention the "economics".. but thats another story..

I would suggest making an option for the people that are on Level 80 to be able to pay Bucks or Coins for the facilities..
Seriously... I have a lot of time invested on my farms, and I would like to have the other facilities, and I've paid Bucks for items that I really wanted in the past ....
but I'm just not going to do it again..
I don't post a lot.. but this has really become a sore topic amongst my farmin' friends..
Just another thought...

Feel free to stop by my farm anytime... folks are always welcome..

SunnyD
May 13 2010, 11:46 AM
May 31st is Memorial Day In the USA.....it commemorates U.S. men and women who died while in the military service...... Please remember to thank a US service man/women ......FT FRiends..... Let's Decorate our farms in memory of these who paid the ultimate Sacrafice.......Yeah probably wrong place to say this LOL but a lot read this thread right now lol lol Wonder if FT will help us aquire FC to enable more of us to purchase USA Flag for our farms to commemorate this day???

LoreneC
May 13 2010, 11:57 AM
Me again.. I believe people have the right to complain about "Farm Bucks"..
It's not like they aren't making money off of a "free" game.
It's a billion dollar industry.. not to mention the "economics".. but thats another story..
http://kotaku.com/5500058/why-economists-love-video-games/
I would suggest making an option for the people that are on Level 80 to be able to pay Bucks or Coins for the facilities..
Seriously... I have a lot of time invested on my farms, and I would like to have the other facilities, and I've paid Bucks for items that I really wanted in the past ....
but I'm just not going to do it again..
I don't post a lot.. but this has really become a sore topic amongst my farmin' friends..
Just another thought...




Feel free to stop by my farm anytime... folks are always welcome..



In essence you think it is OK to tell the devs how much they can make and how they go about doing it. Sorry, I simply can not agree with this.

I am only commenting because my perception of your post is that you believe they are making too much money.

farmermuff
May 13 2010, 12:36 PM
I really like the new gifting feature. My aunt stopped playing the game back when level 34 was the highest you could go. She's level 80, even though she hasnt been playing, and she just sent me all of the farm cash facilities that I didnt have with the farm cash she got for jumping to level 80. She's still got like 30 some FC she can use to buy me facilities and my brother has also stopped playing and he's got FC he can use to send me stuff, to.

I am trying to track down more of my neighbors who have stopped playing and wont use it, to get FC facilities in the future.

Berferd
May 13 2010, 12:54 PM
In essence you think it is OK to tell the devs how much they can make and how they go about doing it. Sorry, I simply can not agree with this.

I am only commenting because my perception of your post is that you believe they are making too much money.


Not at all... there is no such thing as "too much money"... i just believe they should give thought to not charging "Real Money" for virtual goods...

SueW170
May 13 2010, 02:54 PM
Not to rain on anybody's parade or throw a wrench into things, but it is against Facebook Terms of Service for an individual to maintain more than one account. Just saying...
I thought I remembered reading that when I joined FB. And since I have no other family members in the household, or living in this area (can't really count the cat), I'll scratch the idea of a second account. FT would be the only reason I even thought about it since I very much enjoy doing the scene design in FT and prefer not to just erase and start over once I've got a farm designed in a way that I find pleasing. The other FB virtual farm games? Too cartoonish and limited in what the player can really do with them. Same with the city building ones.
Thanks, Steve, for the reminder about the FB TOS.

SueW170
May 13 2010, 03:04 PM
Not at all... there is no such thing as "too much money"... i just believe they should give thought to not charging "Real Money" for virtual goods...
If they didn't charge real money for some of the virtual goods, other than what advertising $$ they can pick up, there would be nothing to support their efforts. Many people pay real money for what is in effect virtual reality -- subscription to cable or satellite television and radio, purchase of DVD movies, even purchasing fictional books. Plus there are those games that some pay money to buy on CDs or to play on the Internet. So the concept of paying a few real dollars, if one can afford it from time to time, for FT land or game items isn't so out-of-line at all. At least as I'm looking at it.
Now admittedly, I don't spend real money on those other things except for the minimum cable TV package ($9.99 a month for 13 channels which includes the 3 major networks and not much else of interest), but if FT is an entertainment priority of some of us, $10 every 2 or 3 months isn't a huge luxury expenditure, plus we don't have to get all the cash facilities and items at once, so can save up for them.

TraceyMush
May 13 2010, 03:06 PM
Yes, that's why 2nd or more accounts is supposed to be hush-hush.

Thank you Lucinda for telling me where the peanuts are *blushing*.

THE DEVELOPERS ARE NOT MAKING MONEY FOR VIRTUAL ITEMS. THEY ARE MAKING MONEY FOR THEIR WORK.

jeanieNGMsfarm
May 13 2010, 03:15 PM
Not at all... there is no such thing as "too much money"... i just believe they should give thought to not charging "Real Money" for virtual goods...

i guess i should not buy my kids video games for the systems they have they should be free. as it is a virtual good

TraceyMush
May 13 2010, 03:27 PM
l just noticed an add for "Facebook Credits". Does anyone know about this? ls Farm Town a part of this group of "top games"??
lt was on the right side of the page in the earn coins and cash tab!

Zeeky Banutski
May 13 2010, 04:12 PM
Here's another perspective on the Farm Cash (i.e.,"dollars"). Personally, I don't care how much money the developers make on Farm Town - this is American capitalism at work...isn't it wonderful?

But here's my beef - I work darn hard for my money & I'm not about to waste it on purchasing "virtual" dollars for this game or any other game. However, that shouldn't mean that us "players" should be denied the opportunity to acquire any/all available Farm Town items based on the fact that some items are available using (free) "coins" (which we earn by playing the game), while other items are only available by spending actual cash (in the form of "virtual" dollars).

In my humble opinion, every item in the store should be available for sale to anyone/everyone no matter what form of payment they choose to use. The beauty of democracy is the "freedom of choice" & the current set up with Farm Town "virtual" dollars prevents me from choosing certain items in the store. The other method of acquiring "virtual" dollars is pure rubbish - sitting through those annoying "ads" responding to tos of questions/selections only to end up with a small amount "virtual" dollars & an obligatory "must choose something from this "method" or you've wasted a ton of time (which, by the way has a "price tag" associated with it - my time is also valuable).

PRT
May 13 2010, 04:19 PM
Zeeky, you make a lot of sense.

dbbill
May 13 2010, 04:24 PM
where do I get olives from to make the oil?

LoreneC
May 13 2010, 04:36 PM
Not at all... there is no such thing as "too much money"... i just believe they should give thought to not charging "Real Money" for virtual goods...


Buying the virtual goods is a choice made by the players. It is still up to the devs, the game owners, whether or not they offer it.

There are plenty of things to buy for those who don't want to pay real money, way more than some other FB games.

jeanieNGMsfarm
May 13 2010, 04:57 PM
Here's another perspective on the Farm Cash (i.e.,"dollars"). Personally, I don't care how much money the developers make on Farm Town - this is American capitalism at work...isn't it wonderful?

But here's my beef - I work darn hard for my money & I'm not about to waste it on purchasing "virtual" dollars for this game or any other game. However, that shouldn't mean that us "players" should be denied the opportunity to acquire any/all available Farm Town items based on the fact that some items are available using (free) "coins" (which we earn by playing the game), while other items are only available by spending actual cash (in the form of "virtual" dollars).

In my humble opinion, every item in the store should be available for sale to anyone/everyone no matter what form of payment they choose to use. The beauty of democracy is the "freedom of choice" & the current set up with Farm Town "virtual" dollars prevents me from choosing certain items in the store. The other method of acquiring "virtual" dollars is pure rubbish - sitting through those annoying "ads" responding to tos of questions/selections only to end up with a small amount "virtual" dollars & an obligatory "must choose something from this "method" or you've wasted a ton of time (which, by the way has a "price tag" associated with it - my time is also valuable).

its just like real life some items you can get free others you must pay for i would never expect a store to give me a item worth money for free...


as for the offers being a waste of time thats a to each his/her own moment there. i personally dont find it a waste i have earned 116 cash just doing those i think of it as earning those cash. i would have had to earn the money to buy the cash so why not take some time to earn it free

Lori Meyer
May 13 2010, 06:21 PM
What good are the experience points, after leve 80?

fjøsnisse
May 13 2010, 06:22 PM
where do I get olives from to make the oil?

You can get olivetree as gift from your friends.

TraceyMush
May 13 2010, 07:38 PM
Thanks for the awesome free game guys! Thanks for the hours of involvement and pleasure ;-)

PRT
May 13 2010, 08:41 PM
What good are the experience points, after leve 80?

I think there will probably be more levels (to 100?) and a fourth farm, so I keep plowing along.

Charo
May 13 2010, 11:34 PM
It's quite simple. Making this game is the developers' work. Instead of entertaining you, they could be doing something else. A lot of it is free. But you are not entitled to have everything. The developers charge money because they need to eat, feed their kids, etc. too. If you don't see the value in purchasing virtual goods, fine. But don't complain about the premium items you have to buy, as if the devs owe you anything. You can take up the offers to help them get paid, or you can just enjoy the very many free elements of the game.

You don't work for free, and neither should the devs.

End of story.

Mikeia99
May 14 2010, 12:34 AM
You must use harvested bananas for the plantain chips :)

ScottLanter
May 14 2010, 12:41 AM
Here's another perspective on the Farm Cash (i.e.,"dollars"). Personally, I don't care how much money the developers make on Farm Town - this is American capitalism at work...isn't it wonderful?

But here's my beef - I work darn hard for my money & I'm not about to waste it on purchasing "virtual" dollars for this game or any other game. However, that shouldn't mean that us "players" should be denied the opportunity to acquire any/all available Farm Town items based on the fact that some items are available using (free) "coins" (which we earn by playing the game), while other items are only available by spending actual cash (in the form of "virtual" dollars).

In my humble opinion, every item in the store should be available for sale to anyone/everyone no matter what form of payment they choose to use. The beauty of democracy is the "freedom of choice" & the current set up with Farm Town "virtual" dollars prevents me from choosing certain items in the store. The other method of acquiring "virtual" dollars is pure rubbish - sitting through those annoying "ads" responding to tos of questions/selections only to end up with a small amount "virtual" dollars & an obligatory "must choose something from this "method" or you've wasted a ton of time (which, by the way has a "price tag" associated with it - my time is also valuable).

People like this blow me away. Think how many hours of enjoyment per day, per week, per month...that you get from playing Farm Town, and you pay nothing for that enjoyment. You mention "freedom of choice" in your post. It's almost an attempt to cause the developers to feel guilty about their Farm Cash method.

As one (me), who has purchased more than $100 (US dollars) in Farm Cash, stop your whining, please! It takes a lot of time, resources, and money to develop games like Farm Town. Either cough up a little real cash to further enhance your enjoyment of the game, or let this plea go. It's getting annoying seeing all the posts from people who say, "I'm on a fixed income", "I can't afford it", "I have no money", and now your "freedom of choice" argument. I challenge you to go into any store in your city and attempt to get the same great deal that Farm Town offers. When you compare all the items that are available in the game, there are really very few that are available with Farm Cash only. The vast majority of items are obtainable with coins.

Finally, I find it very interesting that, those who can't afford a little Farm Cash, are the same people who manage to pay for internet access every month, and also manage to purchase a computer to access the internet.

Tamblyne
May 14 2010, 01:33 AM
Here's another perspective on the Farm Cash (i.e.,"dollars"). Personally, I don't care how much money the developers make on Farm Town - this is American capitalism at work...isn't it wonderful?

But here's my beef - I work darn hard for my money & I'm not about to waste it on purchasing "virtual" dollars for this game or any other game. However, that shouldn't mean that us "players" should be denied the opportunity to acquire any/all available Farm Town items based on the fact that some items are available using (free) "coins" (which we earn by playing the game), while other items are only available by spending actual cash (in the form of "virtual" dollars).

In my humble opinion, every item in the store should be available for sale to anyone/everyone no matter what form of payment they choose to use. The beauty of democracy is the "freedom of choice" & the current set up with Farm Town "virtual" dollars prevents me from choosing certain items in the store. The other method of acquiring "virtual" dollars is pure rubbish - sitting through those annoying "ads" responding to tos of questions/selections only to end up with a small amount "virtual" dollars & an obligatory "must choose something from this "method" or you've wasted a ton of time (which, by the way has a "price tag" associated with it - my time is also valuable).

Huh? You started out touting the virtues of American capitalism, and then argue that everything should be given to you because you want it? That's where the "freedom of choice" part comes in -- do I spend my $5.00 at Taco Bell? Or stay home and have lunch and keep my $5.00 in my pocket?

Freedom of choice doesn't mean you submit your wish list and wait for everything to be delivered -- not in the real world and not in the virtual world, either.

I haven't found anything about this game that I can't participate in, even if I don't spend money on it. I could get things faster by spending money -- which I did to expand my farm -- but everything can be done with a little ingenuity and just plain stubbornness. Can't get gifts from your neighbors? Or they aren't playing anymore? Get new neighbors! There's a thread for that very purpose. Need olive oil? How about working your neighbor's factories and collecting some? It's not like you really have to get out your work boots and a hard hat -- just click the mouse. And yet my own neighbors, who complain that they can't get olive oil, do NOT work my factories to collect it! So -- what did I do? I got myself some new neighbors!

There is not a single "But I can't because . . ." that you can come up with that there isn't an answer for. The trick is figuring out the solution yourself instead of wasting time and energy wishing life was "fair" or convincing yourself it can't be done.

What you're really arguing for is "instant gratification" -- not "freedom of choice." Not the same thing at all.

SueW170
May 14 2010, 02:31 AM
You make a very good point, Scott. Playing FT is a luxury like buying a CD, going out to lunch or to a baseball game. It's not something one has to do and players can choose to spend as little or as much spare time on the game as they wish and can have lots of fun designing virtual farm layouts without spending real $$ if they prefer to go that way or truly cannot afford to spend $$ on entertainment. Or budget a certain amount to allocate once a month or once every few months as I do for entertainment and spend that on FT.

It's a game and not a necessity, so the way to solve the "it costs too much" thing is either not to play or to use those items that are free.

People like this blow me away. Think how many hours of enjoyment per day, per week, per month...that you get from playing Farm Town, and you pay nothing for that enjoyment. You mention "freedom of choice" in your post. It's almost an attempt to cause the developers to feel guilty about their Farm Cash method.

As one (me), who has purchased more than $100 (US dollars) in Farm Cash, stop your whining, please! It takes a lot of time, resources, and money to develop games like Farm Town. Either cough up a little real cash to further enhance your enjoyment of the game, or let this plea go. It's getting annoying seeing all the posts from people who say, "I'm on a fixed income", "I can't afford it", "I have no money", and now your "freedom of choice" argument. I challenge you to go into any store in your city and attempt to get the same great deal that Farm Town offers. When you compare all the items that are available in the game, there are really very few that are available with Farm Cash only. The vast majority of items are obtainable with coins.

Finally, I find it very interesting that, those who can't afford a little Farm Cash, are the same people who manage to pay for internet access every month, and also manage to purchase a computer to access the internet.

essexboy
May 14 2010, 07:37 AM
wish I never got the chocolate factory as now I need the confectionery factory to produce choc bars.I mean,what kind of chocolate factory only produces choc liquid.im done using real money on this game and for that reason alone,I will not put any real money into this game again.

jeanieNGMsfarm
May 14 2010, 09:41 AM
People like this blow me away. Think how many hours of enjoyment per day, per week, per month...that you get from playing Farm Town, and you pay nothing for that enjoyment. You mention "freedom of choice" in your post. It's almost an attempt to cause the developers to feel guilty about their Farm Cash method.

As one (me), who has purchased more than $100 (US dollars) in Farm Cash, stop your whining, please! It takes a lot of time, resources, and money to develop games like Farm Town. Either cough up a little real cash to further enhance your enjoyment of the game, or let this plea go. It's getting annoying seeing all the posts from people who say, "I'm on a fixed income", "I can't afford it", "I have no money", and now your "freedom of choice" argument. I challenge you to go into any store in your city and attempt to get the same great deal that Farm Town offers. When you compare all the items that are available in the game, there are really very few that are available with Farm Cash only. The vast majority of items are obtainable with coins.

Finally, I find it very interesting that, those who can't afford a little Farm Cash, are the same people who manage to pay for internet access every month, and also manage to purchase a computer to access the internet.



:::clapping at this post:::: you said it perfectly.

BlackestWinter
May 14 2010, 09:42 AM
Instead of making a separate candy factory from the chocolate factory, you should have just updated the chocolate factory with the new items. I own both now, but it seems redundant and unnecessary, along with being confusing for a lot of players.

In the future, I'd rather see updates to the factories instead of a new one for every tiny item - along with the buildings having smaller footprints.

tgray
May 14 2010, 11:14 AM
Do I have to have the olive oil factory to make things from the snack factory??
It is conceivable that you could get enough olive oil from working at your neighbor facilities.

gfjones
May 14 2010, 02:34 PM
Here's another perspective on the Farm Cash (i.e.,"dollars"). Personally, I don't care how much money the developers make on Farm Town - this is American capitalism at work...isn't it wonderful?

But here's my beef - I work darn hard for my money & I'm not about to waste it on purchasing "virtual" dollars for this game or any other game. However, that shouldn't mean that us "players" should be denied the opportunity to acquire any/all available Farm Town items based on the fact that some items are available using (free) "coins" (which we earn by playing the game), while other items are only available by spending actual cash (in the form of "virtual" dollars).

In my humble opinion, every item in the store should be available for sale to anyone/everyone no matter what form of payment they choose to use. The beauty of democracy is the "freedom of choice" & the current set up with Farm Town "virtual" dollars prevents me from choosing certain items in the store. The other method of acquiring "virtual" dollars is pure rubbish - sitting through those annoying "ads" responding to tos of questions/selections only to end up with a small amount "virtual" dollars & an obligatory "must choose something from this "method" or you've wasted a ton of time (which, by the way has a "price tag" associated with it - my time is also valuable).


What?

Do you use that same argument at your local Wal-Mart?

"Sorry, I'm a little short on cash. This week I'll pay you in beans"

Capriherb
May 14 2010, 03:06 PM
What?

Do you use that same argument at your local Wal-Mart?

"Sorry, I'm a little short on cash. This week I'll pay you in beans"

Yea, this isn't the Federal Government. In real life you have to pay for what you want. LOL

SueW170
May 14 2010, 03:09 PM
What?

Do you use that same argument at your local Wal-Mart?

"Sorry, I'm a little short on cash. This week I'll pay you in beans"
My response to the complaints about FT Cash items? If one can't afford it (whatever item), do without. It's what I learned early on to do in real life especially if the "it" is not a necessity and, even for the necessities, learned to make do with what I have. Actually, this can be a fun challenge in the virtual world of games as well as in the real world. Find myself doing this even when it isn't financially necessary;)

Oh, and a "P.S." to gfjones -- I avoid the local Wal-Mart since cheaper isn't always cheaper in the long run if it's poorer quality that lasts a whole lot longer. Also, prefer to support our local merchants -- kind of like FT neighbors support one another :)

SueW170
May 14 2010, 03:21 PM
wish I never got the chocolate factory as now I need the confectionery factory to produce choc bars.I mean,what kind of chocolate factory only produces choc liquid.im done using real money on this game and for that reason alone,I will not put any real money into this game again.
Agree with you, essexboy. Multi-function facilities would be an improvement, whether the facilities are sold for FT Cash or FT coins. Also a smaller footprint as was suggested would be good. Like, why those weird fantasy land towers on one of the new buildings? And why such a huge building for the chocolate factory? Here, in our nearby small town there's a small shop which makes, chocolate lovers tell me, super delicious fudge, chocolate cream candies, plus other non-chocolate candies and confections. Also, offers patrons the opportunity to purchase their products boxed as gifts. So, huge facilities really aren't a necessity and if FT copied this concept, we could place more facilities on our existing game space and might be more motivated to part with a few real $$ more often.

Don't bet me wrong, overall I think that the FT developers do an excellent job of providing good graphics, a variety of player options and a game which plays efficiently and is fun.

lighthouse02
May 14 2010, 04:47 PM
People like this blow me away. Think how many hours of enjoyment per day, per week, per month...that you get from playing Farm Town, and you pay nothing for that enjoyment. You mention "freedom of choice" in your post. It's almost an attempt to cause the developers to feel guilty about their Farm Cash method.

As one (me), who has purchased more than $100 (US dollars) in Farm Cash, stop your whining, please! It takes a lot of time, resources, and money to develop games like Farm Town. Either cough up a little real cash to further enhance your enjoyment of the game, or let this plea go. It's getting annoying seeing all the posts from people who say, "I'm on a fixed income", "I can't afford it", "I have no money", and now your "freedom of choice" argument. I challenge you to go into any store in your city and attempt to get the same great deal that Farm Town offers. When you compare all the items that are available in the game, there are really very few that are available with Farm Cash only. The vast majority of items are obtainable with coins.

Finally, I find it very interesting that, those who can't afford a little Farm Cash, are the same people who manage to pay for internet access every month, and also manage to purchase a computer to access the internet.

Thank you!!! I was just saying the same thing to my husband last night. I think that perhaps some people are forgetting that they are not really paying real dollars for virtual items, but instead real dollars for the developers' time creating the game - which I very much enjoy.

normahvh
May 14 2010, 05:41 PM
I totally agree, please ........stop all the whiney posts.

pt4u2nv
May 14 2010, 06:48 PM
How about giving us something to make for Peaches (like Peach Cobbler), Plums (Plum Pudding or Prunes), and Lemons (Lemon Juice or Pie).

Hessel
May 14 2010, 07:17 PM
I love Farm Town. I have spent money to upgrade and will continue to do so as long as they keep adding to the game. i could use a 4th or dare or even a 5th farm because i cant grow wheat fast enough to keep up. Lemon juice would be a good addition to the juice factory. And a corn ethanol plant would make a lot of sense for those who love to grow corn. Windmills that produce energy would be a good idea as well. With the omportance of alternitive energy, this makes sense. The game is addictive and I have to say THANKS again for all your efforts in making this the BEST game. Remember people, nothing good is life is 100% free. They have to make a buck too.

topmop
May 14 2010, 07:51 PM
Here's another perspective on the Farm Cash (i.e.,"dollars"). Personally, I don't care how much money the developers make on Farm Town - this is American capitalism at work...isn't it wonderful?

But here's my beef - I work darn hard for my money & I'm not about to waste it on purchasing "virtual" dollars for this game or any other game. However, that shouldn't mean that us "players" should be denied the opportunity to acquire any/all available Farm Town items based on the fact that some items are available using (free) "coins" (which we earn by playing the game), while other items are only available by spending actual cash (in the form of "virtual" dollars).

In my humble opinion, every item in the store should be available for sale to anyone/everyone no matter what form of payment they choose to use. The beauty of democracy is the "freedom of choice" & the current set up with Farm Town "virtual" dollars prevents me from choosing certain items in the store. The other method of acquiring "virtual" dollars is pure rubbish - sitting through those annoying "ads" responding to tos of questions/selections only to end up with a small amount "virtual" dollars & an obligatory "must choose something from this "method" or you've wasted a ton of time (which, by the way has a "price tag" associated with it - my time is also valuable).

Zeeky, the beauty of democracy is that everyone can charge whatever they want for a service and everyone else has the option of buying or not buying that service. This game is very playable without spending a dime of real money. Lighten up!!

Toranut97
May 14 2010, 10:17 PM
How about giving us something to make for Peaches (like Peach Cobbler), Plums (Plum Pudding or Prunes), and Lemons (Lemon Juice or Pie).

Lemons can be used towards hard candy in the Confectionery, and you can make canned peaches in the canning and preserving factory....:)

WingmanFarm
May 15 2010, 08:23 AM
Here's another perspective on the Farm Cash (i.e.,"dollars"). Personally, I don't care how much money the developers make on Farm Town - this is American capitalism at work...isn't it wonderful?

But here's my beef - I work darn hard for my money & I'm not about to waste it on purchasing "virtual" dollars for this game or any other game. However, that shouldn't mean that us "players" should be denied the opportunity to acquire any/all available Farm Town items based on the fact that some items are available using (free) "coins" (which we earn by playing the game), while other items are only available by spending actual cash (in the form of "virtual" dollars).

In my humble opinion, every item in the store should be available for sale to anyone/everyone no matter what form of payment they choose to use. The beauty of democracy is the "freedom of choice" & the current set up with Farm Town "virtual" dollars prevents me from choosing certain items in the store. The other method of acquiring "virtual" dollars is pure rubbish - sitting through those annoying "ads" responding to tos of questions/selections only to end up with a small amount "virtual" dollars & an obligatory "must choose something from this "method" or you've wasted a ton of time (which, by the way has a "price tag" associated with it - my time is also valuable).

I would like to point out that if you went to a store and bought a real life game ( like scrabble or whatever) you would be paying "real" dollars for it and have little opportunity to add "extras" to it without paying more "real" dollars.

I consider anything I buy with FC as a comparison to a game I may purchase in real life to determine its value.

So pay for a real game with pieces that can get lost or broken or a "virtual" game----they simply become equal and a matter of choice.

dottyF
May 15 2010, 09:46 AM
Love that you can gift the facilities. I just bought all the FC facilities for my daughter.

EKovar
May 15 2010, 10:22 AM
wish I never got the chocolate factory as now I need the confectionery factory to produce choc bars.I mean,what kind of chocolate factory only produces choc liquid.im done using real money on this game and for that reason alone,I will not put any real money into this game again.

When looking at the facilities store you'll see a question mark in the upper right hand corner which tells you what the facility will produce and some of the things it can be used for. Having just checked, chocolate liquor can also be used in the bakery and the ice cream shop, neither of which require actual money.

I hope that this helps, and gives you a use for you chocolate factory.

i8cookies
May 15 2010, 10:38 AM
LUV FARMTOWN!! Looking foward to a fourth farm for all my stuff in storage..

gfjones
May 15 2010, 02:21 PM
My response to the complaints about FT Cash items? If one can't afford it (whatever item), do without. It's what I learned early on to do in real life especially if the "it" is not a necessity and, even for the necessities, learned to make do with what I have. Actually, this can be a fun challenge in the virtual world of games as well as in the real world. Find myself doing this even when it isn't financially necessary;)

Oh, and a "P.S." to gfjones -- I avoid the local Wal-Mart since cheaper isn't always cheaper in the long run if it's poorer quality that lasts a whole lot longer. Also, prefer to support our local merchants -- kind of like FT neighbors support one another :)

We also avoid Wal-Mart whenever possible, just used it as an example.

Actually our house refers to it as China-Mart. You'll have a hard time finding anything there made in America.

SueW170
May 15 2010, 03:02 PM
We also avoid Wal-Mart whenever possible, just used it as an example.

Actually our house refers to it as China-Mart. You'll have a hard time finding anything there made in America.
Oh, yes, isn't that the truth! And people wonder why jobs are scarce.
Sorry, guess I got way off-topic here ;)

dj.miller1959
May 15 2010, 03:03 PM
Of course. No problem there. I do it all the time.

If you want one account's avatar to work on your other account's farm you really need two computers - each computer open to only one account. Using one computer to open both accounts at the same time in separate windows is more difficult. When I do that, I find I have to move quickly because FB opens in any new windows with the account that is already logged on. I have to "log out" in the 2nd window in order to log into the other account (in this case, my sister's account) - but that can log me out of my 1st window (because the FT page recycles every 30 seconds or so) if I don't get back to my own account (on the 1st page) fast enough.

(Hope I explained this right - it does sound confusing, but really is very simple)

It is a delicate balancing dance of speed and movement keeping both accounts going at the same time in two windows on one computer. If you have two computers, there is no problem.

Another soulution for this is 1 computer with a second monitor. I harvest/plow from one account to another. I log in using different browsers. IE, firefox or google. This works real good for me when I need to help out a friend that is on vacation or something. I am definitely addicted.
:D

TobysMom
May 15 2010, 04:42 PM
I can't figure out how to grind up my coffee beans, so I can use the ground coffee for the ice cream. Any one have the answer? Thanks for any suggestions!:)

jeanieNGMsfarm
May 15 2010, 04:55 PM
I can't figure out how to grind up my coffee beans, so I can use the ground coffee for the ice cream. Any one have the answer? Thanks for any suggestions!:)

currently not an option to do so. but you can get it as a gift from neighbors

RevJack
May 15 2010, 06:02 PM
At one time, Walmart's slogan was "We buy American so you can too" but when Sam Walton passed away, that all changed.

Farmer McDonald
May 15 2010, 08:54 PM
the olive oil factory is bought with FT$ which i believe you to be ****** about BUT it is not necessary to buy it there is other stuff to make in the factory that doesn't require olive oil.

the snack factory is bought with COINS you can come by them pretty easily if you play the game, the watermill well i think every one already has at least one of those :)

I also refuse to pay for things with my real money but have accepted that i WILL miss out on something somewhere along the way ;)

Just use the "Earn coins" tab to download games and earn coins. That is how I got my olive factory. It is only 12 cash. You also get cash for each level you complete. If you are already at 80, hopefully they will add more levels soon.

Haystack Holly
May 15 2010, 09:00 PM
Lemonade folks...please! How easy would that be in the juice factory. I'm really begging for the fourth farm to be available. I can't buy another facility because I have no place to put it. But I love, love, love this game. My only gripe is that many of my fb friends have stopped playing so I can't rely on neighbors for gifts. I'd like to be able to buy some of the gift items.

Farmer McDonald
May 15 2010, 09:18 PM
People like this blow me away. Think how many hours of enjoyment per day, per week, per month...that you get from playing Farm Town, and you pay nothing for that enjoyment. You mention "freedom of choice" in your post. It's almost an attempt to cause the developers to feel guilty about their Farm Cash method.

As one (me), who has purchased more than $100 (US dollars) in Farm Cash, stop your whining, please! It takes a lot of time, resources, and money to develop games like Farm Town. Either cough up a little real cash to further enhance your enjoyment of the game, or let this plea go. It's getting annoying seeing all the posts from people who say, "I'm on a fixed income", "I can't afford it", "I have no money", and now your "freedom of choice" argument. I challenge you to go into any store in your city and attempt to get the same great deal that Farm Town offers. When you compare all the items that are available in the game, there are really very few that are available with Farm Cash only. The vast majority of items are obtainable with coins.

Finally, I find it very interesting that, those who can't afford a little Farm Cash, are the same people who manage to pay for internet access every month, and also manage to purchase a computer to access the internet.

I agree that people could put it a little better, but we must realize that there are people who have been put out of work and now do not have the income to pay cash. I bought my computer years ago when I was doing well, and only keep the internet to keep in touch with family as it is a lot cheaper than long distance phone calls which I can no longer afford. Getting rid of Internet service will be the next thing to cut if I need to cut more. But of course no Internet means no FarmTown so why would people spend real money for something they will not have?
People out of work may not be in the best frame of mind so may not always put things in as positive light as some may prefer. That is why I think that we need to point out the positives as you did that many things are for coins; however, you could also have added that they can use the "Earn Coins" tab to get money for the developers without the player actually spending money. I have gotten all the things that I want that require cash by doing this.

ddamienie
May 15 2010, 09:43 PM
Once again, myspace users got the shaft since the only way we get any extra farm cash is by paying for it.

t1m0thyb
May 16 2010, 01:58 AM
Thank you!!! I was just saying the same thing to my husband last night. I think that perhaps some people are forgetting that they are not really paying real dollars for virtual items, but instead real dollars for the developers' time creating the game - which I very much enjoy.
by the way for those of you who feel you cannot afford to buy farm cash try the offers (free) to earn farm cash. I did and bought a lot of Factories with the EARNED Farm Cash.

Charo
May 16 2010, 03:02 AM
Everyone's circumstances are different, sure. But that does not mean that we are entitled to everything. Putting it differently doesn't change the fact that the sense of entitlement is creating problems for the player that are being spread around in here. Can't afford it? Deal! I'd love to get some new diamond jewelry but I can't afford it! I'm not going to whine to the store or others about not being able to get it.

ETA: I looked at the offers, and I did the netflix offer, got over 80 FC for it. I earned my FC, and I'm happy to help the devs get paid! Until I can afford more out of pocket I either do the offers or I will just do without! It's really that simple. And for the people who don't believe in paying for virtual goods, do without, since it's so beneath you.

It all comes back to the point that the devs don't work for free. Just because this is a game to you doesn't mean that this isn't someone's work, especially if they have to listen to people whine and moan about a FREE game.

kschilpe
May 16 2010, 11:26 AM
thanks for all the new things wish one would have been a winery, we really need one plus different types of grapes and maybe a brewery and hops. Also a fourth farm and when will there be new levels. I know you will not answer this just like all the others I have written but I wish you would do this. I love this game even buy farm cash so come on please I need to make wine and beer. thanks

gfjones
May 16 2010, 12:28 PM
At one time, Walmart's slogan was "We buy American so you can too" but when Sam Walton passed away, that all changed.

Yes, unfortunately a lot of things at Wal-Mart died with Sam.

Farmer McDonald
May 16 2010, 12:51 PM
Once again, myspace users got the shaft since the only way we get any extra farm cash is by paying for it.

Do you not have a tab at the top of the game screen, right above the tool bar and your farm name on the upper right side that says "earn coins"? It can be hard to see and easily overlooked. It is in red now on FB. If you do not have one, then it would be a problem if you do not have the money to buy. Of course you could always open a FaceBook account and start another farm.

roseannadana
May 16 2010, 01:18 PM
I think people forget the developers have overhead: salaries, possibly insurance for employees, rent, electric, servers, etc. I am sure that is a small partial list!

:rolleyes:Well they make there money from the advertisers that are annoying.
Its bad enough you get pop ups on farm town or annoying gift guy when you
already sent out gifts.

;)Another thing is at level 80 you do not get any points to collect farmtown cash.

I think another farm should be added to the 3 you all ready have for the facilities.

oldben
May 16 2010, 01:23 PM
Not sure where to ask this question but, does anyone know how to stop, social bid system, on farm town/

dk14369
May 16 2010, 01:25 PM
is anyone else having problems sending gifts? i havent been a le to send gifts since may 15th at 6 am ?pls help!

dk14369
May 16 2010, 01:27 PM
is anyone else having problems sending gifts? i havent been able to send gifts since may 15th at 6 am ?pls help!

anyone out there pls help!

jademyst44@yahoo.com
May 16 2010, 02:03 PM
Hi....I love all the new facilities! Thanks.....I do feel we should be able to buy them with coins. Really would love to see bee-hives as a facility...& to grow clover to make honey....i suggested this idea before..maybe also maple trees for syrup. I hope yu like the ideas & make them available. Thanks again.
Carol

New to This
May 16 2010, 02:21 PM
Love that you can gift the facilities. I just bought all the FC facilities for my daughter.

You can gift the facilities?!?!?! How!?!?!?

SueW170
May 16 2010, 02:28 PM
Not sure where to ask this question but, does anyone know how to stop, social bid system, on farm town/
Haven't a clue what you mean by the "social bid system." I'm sure I've not seen anything such as that at FT.

melman74
May 16 2010, 02:29 PM
I think your new oil factory, and the snack factory, would be MUCH more useful if, in addition to OLIVE oil - (obtained only thru olive trees and gifts) you would instead be able to make VEGETABLE oil from any number of the following crops which you ALREADY have:

Soybeans
Sunflowers
Corn
Peanuts
Cotton (cottonseed oil)
Palm Kernel
Coconut

These oils are much more common in the production of snack foods than Olive Oil (in fact I know of NO snack that's fried in Olive Oil) Olive oil is usually used for sauteeing and in italian dishes. Plus, this would make a facility that's only obtained with FT $ THAT MUCH MORE useful!

And why isn't Olive Oil added to the gift list since it's the only way to make fried snacks?

SueW170
May 16 2010, 02:37 PM
Hi....I love all the new facilities! Thanks.....I do feel we should be able to buy them with coins. Really would love to see bee-hives as a facility...& to grow clover to make honey....i suggested this idea before..maybe also maple trees for syrup. I hope yu like the ideas & make them available. Thanks again.
Carol
It's pretty apparent that Slashkey isn't going to make all FT items available for FT game coins rather than some being only available for FT Cash. This suggestion has been discussed and "cussed" (sort of) ad infinitum. Not gonna happen, so perhaps it would be well to just move on and do the best we can with what we have and enjoy :)

Maple syrup? Like that idea, Carol :) :) And maybe someday FT will add a simple country style restaurant facility where we can make/"serve" pancakes (using our flour, milk, eggs and butter) along with fish dinners and other meals. Plus of course fresh grind coffee beans and "serve" coffee. .... Well, LOL, we can dream.

Bee hives would be a nice addition too. The actual bees, though? If kept in any reasonable proportion, bees would be so small they's get lost on screen. And giant "game bees"? Don't think so. . . .

LoreneC
May 16 2010, 03:07 PM
:rolleyes:Well they make there money from the advertisers that are annoying.
Its bad enough you get pop ups on farm town or annoying gift guy when you
already sent out gifts.

;)Another thing is at level 80 you do not get any points to collect farmtown cash.

I think another farm should be added to the 3 you all ready have for the facilities.

Well of course they make money from ads. They also make money from FarmCash. People asking them to GIVE away more FarmCash are basically asking them to take a pay cut. ;)

plumtexasgirl
May 16 2010, 06:48 PM
You have to buy (or have them sent as gifts) banana trees. I'm not at a level that I can buy them, but I have my neighbors send them to me..:)

Lavenda
May 16 2010, 08:07 PM
you cannot buy banana trees, you can only get them from others gifting them to you

Tony D
May 16 2010, 08:58 PM
you cannot buy banana trees, you can only get them from others gifting them to youI cannot help but wonder if Lavenda turns green :p

bruhelmboldt
May 16 2010, 10:11 PM
Sure would like a roasting oven to roast coffee beans and chestnuts.

dmeads
May 16 2010, 10:34 PM
I saw someone with a "money tree" on their farm, but don't see it in the store or gift areas. I'd love to sprout one on my farm! LOL Where can I get one? Thanks! :-)

Tony D
May 16 2010, 10:47 PM
I saw someone with a "money tree" on their farm, but don't see it in the store or gift areas. I'd love to sprout one on my farm! LOL Where can I get one? Thanks! :-)Hi, it was a limited time offer as part of St Patrick Day theme. They are no longer available. I have a few and I wish they grew Farm Cash :D

SueW170
May 17 2010, 01:02 AM
Hi, it was a limited time offer as part of St Patrick Day theme. They are no longer available. I have a few and I wish they grew Farm Cash :D

Wouldn't we like to have one of those money trees for real ;)

SueW170
May 17 2010, 01:09 AM
anyone out there pls help!
Tonight, I had a problem trying to gift one of my FT neighbors. When I clicked "Send Gift to ...." the program took me to the gift page; however, there were no circles below the items to click and select. The gifting function worked fine for all my other 17 FT neighbors and I had no difficulty sending them gifts as usual.
I'm thinking this wasn't a FT problem, however, because checking my list of FT neighbors, the person whom I couldn't gift did not show up as a neighbor. She showed at the bottom of the game screen and I could visit her FT farm, just not showing up as a neighbor. Doubt she "un-neighbored" me since I visit and tend her farm daily and usually gift, plus she's active in a cause ap that we both support.
So, probably just one of those weird temporary glitches all complex, interactive programs occasionally experience.

dj.miller1959
May 17 2010, 01:44 AM
Sure would like a roasting oven to roast coffee beans and chestnuts.

Amen! Roasted Peanuts and Soybeans! What a great Idea!:D

ImpureHalo
May 17 2010, 02:31 AM
blimey that snack factory is majorly ugly and HUGE, I cant find a tree big enough to hide it lol

Hahahaha. I thought I was the only person who did this! I have trees placed strategically all over my farm to hide the ugly buildings. :)

SueW170
May 17 2010, 03:23 AM
Hahahaha. I thought I was the only person who did this! I have trees placed strategically all over my farm to hide the ugly buildings. :)
LOL Oh, yes. I got the juice factory (have passed on getting the snack shop, preserves and snack factory and oil factory) and "planted" a couple of those big willow trees to hide those cardboard carton ends of that factory. Doubt anything will change, but there sure have been lots of comments about the looks of most of the facilities:)

jesdreher
May 17 2010, 10:04 AM
Tonight, I had a problem trying to gift one of my FT neighbors. When I clicked "Send Gift to ...." the program took me to the gift page; however, there were no circles below the items to click and select. The gifting function worked fine for all my other 17 FT neighbors and I had no difficulty sending them gifts as usual.
I'm thinking this wasn't a FT problem, however, because checking my list of FT neighbors, the person whom I couldn't gift did not show up as a neighbor. She showed at the bottom of the game screen and I could visit her FT farm, just not showing up as a neighbor. Doubt she "un-neighbored" me since I visit and tend her farm daily and usually gift, plus she's active in a cause ap that we both support.
So, probably just one of those weird temporary glitches all complex, interactive programs occasionally experience.

Are you sure you didn't already gift her something via her wall or your feed? If so, you won't be able to give again for a bit.

Moonstruck
May 17 2010, 11:47 AM
I need help but don't know how to get it. Cannot make cheese, butter and other dairy products. Have plenty of inventory. Just bought second dairy facility hoping to correct problem. Does Not help. How do I get to where I can report this problem. Of course this keeps me from using most all of my other facilities. This has been like this 2 weeks
I hope to get an answer regarding this problem. The cow cheese and goat cheese is difficult to make. I cna only produce about 6 of each at a time. Will this problem be fixed??:eek:

sandra.l.huffman
May 17 2010, 03:01 PM
i have olive Trees can i use them for the oil or do need the factory

sandra.l.huffman
May 17 2010, 03:04 PM
can i use my olive trees to repersent oil or do i have to have the factory

lashe11e
May 17 2010, 03:54 PM
where do i buy plantain trees or get them? I cannot find them anywhere.

to make plantain chips you need bananas and olive oil

hansen2433
May 17 2010, 04:12 PM
can i use my olive trees to repersent oil or do i have to have the factory

you need the factory to make the olive oil

Lavenda
May 17 2010, 04:42 PM
Tonight, I had a problem trying to gift one of my FT neighbors. When I clicked "Send Gift to ...." the program took me to the gift page; however, there were no circles below the items to click and select. The gifting function worked fine for all my other 17 FT neighbors and I had no difficulty sending them gifts as usual.
I'm thinking this wasn't a FT problem, however, because checking my list of FT neighbors, the person whom I couldn't gift did not show up as a neighbor. She showed at the bottom of the game screen and I could visit her FT farm, just not showing up as a neighbor. Doubt she "un-neighbored" me since I visit and tend her farm daily and usually gift, plus she's active in a cause ap that we both support.
So, probably just one of those weird temporary glitches all complex, interactive programs occasionally experience.

are you still FB friends with her? That's the only other explaination I can think of

Lavenda
May 17 2010, 04:50 PM
I hope to get an answer regarding this problem. The cow cheese and goat cheese is difficult to make. I cna only produce about 6 of each at a time. Will this problem be fixed??:eek:

making only 6 cheeses in a batch is not a glitch so it won't be fixed, and I doubt they will change it (but you never know!).

Is your problem with the batch size or can you only do one batch at a time? Do you already have cheese in production? Or you don't have enough milk to do more than one batch at a time?

The simplest solution to not having enough cheese is to get more cows so you get more milk so you can make more cheese. And yes I know, not everyone has good gifting neighbours, but you either find a solution to your problem or you make do with what you have...

Lavenda
May 17 2010, 07:28 PM
just got a pop-up about only being able to have the equivalent of 15 days of a product in production... thank you devs!

CaroleSB
May 17 2010, 07:57 PM
just got a pop-up about only being able to have the equivalent of 15 days of a product in production... thank you devs!

got the same message and came straight to the forum to see if they posted anything else new!! Can we say "addiction"? :D

Mrs. Fletch
May 18 2010, 12:06 AM
Thank you for all the great facilities that make playing Farm Town so much fun!

SueW170
May 18 2010, 12:39 AM
Are you sure you didn't already gift her something via her wall or your feed? If so, you won't be able to give again for a bit.
Yes, I'm sure of that since she never posts FT related posts to the wall feed and hasn't been active in the gifting, but since some time back she showed as having a FT farm (which she does) and accepted my FT neighbor request I've gifted her regularly.
I just checked again and she now no longer shows on the list of my FT Neighbors when I click on the "My Neighbor" Tab and check to see who are FT Neighbors.
Perhaps she quit doing FT but her farm still shows in the bar at the bottom on the game screen that shows neighbors.
Not a real problem, but I was just curious what could have happened since others have mentioned losing FT Neighbors.
Oh, yes, also cleared browser cache which I do daily and she did not reappear in the "My Neighbors" so that apparently wasn't the cause.
Thanks for your response to my post.

brat3073
May 18 2010, 09:36 AM
i am really getting fed up with Farm Town. I hope someone can help me. For the past few days, I have been having a problem with my connection to server...it times out constantly.....I really hate it when it happens in the middle of a job! But also, when i check my facilities...i have to refresh after each facility because it times out. Then, this morning, i check my dairy facility and i was able to make goat cheese and 200 of each yogurt...then i went to check on bakery.....after i had to refresh i found out that i needed butter to make anything cause i was out....so i went back to dairy...once again refreshing....and my goat cheese and yogurt was gone! Ihope this gets fixed soon...i have 3 farms, but im ready to delete the app because of all the problems.......HELP

alnbev
May 18 2010, 03:37 PM
Olive oil, OLIVE OIL, and more olive oil!! We need a different way to get olive oil besides growing the trees because we can never get enough to make all the snacks. and, PLEASE let us buy farm #4! I love this game and realize it is free and I thank you for that. I am also very happy for all the recent upgrades!:)

JustERfarmer
May 18 2010, 03:41 PM
Every time I try to use my 4x faster havest tool it will only allow me to harvest one plot at a time. I have full fule too. Any idea why this is? Been doing this foe weeks now.
:eek:

Double T Dude Ranch
May 18 2010, 03:51 PM
Every time I try to use my 4x faster havest tool it will only allow me to harvest one plot at a time. I have full fule too. Any idea why this is? Been doing this foe weeks now.
:eek:

Make sure "remove spaces" is checked if you have no spaces between plots.

SueW170
May 18 2010, 04:14 PM
are you still FB friends with her? That's the only other explaination I can think of
Thanks for your reply, Lavenda. I just check my FB Friends list and she is still on it. I should take a look at her profile and see if she still has FT listed. Perhaps she dropped out of FT since she wasn't very active in it -- more into Maria Wars and FV, looks like. Maybe I'll ask her if she is still doing FT. Like I said, not a big thing, but it got me curious about what may have happened, if a glitch of something.

olive mary watson
May 18 2010, 04:47 PM
does having more than one dairy shed increase your milk yeild and does the number of cows etc matter

Double T Dude Ranch
May 18 2010, 04:49 PM
does having more than one dairy shed increase your milk yeild and does the number of cows etc matter

The more cows you have the more milk. If you have another dairy shed, it has to be on another farm and with cows of its own.

lmcclary322
May 18 2010, 06:42 PM
the olive oil factory is bought with FT$ which i believe you to be ****** about BUT it is not necessary to buy it there is other stuff to make in the factory that doesn't require olive oil.

the snack factory is bought with COINS you can come by them pretty easily if you play the game, the watermill well i think every one already has at least one of those :)

I also refuse to pay for things with my real money but have accepted that i WILL miss out on something somewhere along the way ;)

You dont have to pay for money for any of those things if you dont want I personally bought the items that require cash but if I wanna pay $10 real cash on a game thats my choice however for a long time I didnt have a chocolate factories but I got more chocolate by working other neighbors factory that I actually produce myself so that money was kinda a waste for me but I am sure you can do the same thing with the olive oil factory... dont be so negative its a game HAVE FUN!!!!:D oops sorry I quoted the wrong person this was meant for the person you quoted hahaha the being negative part again sorry

lillis
May 18 2010, 07:17 PM
ive earned lots of farm cash by checking out the earn coins/cash category. Every couple of days you can earn 2 additional farm cash by simply downloading a facebook application (then what the heck after i get the farm cash i delete it ..tho sometimes its a new fun game) also there are companies that for a minium purchase (companies/stores i would buy from anyway!) i can get loads of farm cash. I simply am doing some of my graduation, wedding, fathers day shopping this way!

iwannagohome
May 18 2010, 07:33 PM
Tonight, I had a problem trying to gift one of my FT neighbors. When I clicked "Send Gift to ...." the program took me to the gift page; however, there were no circles below the items to click and select. The gifting function worked fine for all my other 17 FT neighbors and I had no difficulty sending them gifts as usual.
I'm thinking this wasn't a FT problem, however, because checking my list of FT neighbors, the person whom I couldn't gift did not show up as a neighbor. She showed at the bottom of the game screen and I could visit her FT farm, just not showing up as a neighbor. Doubt she "un-neighbored" me since I visit and tend her farm daily and usually gift, plus she's active in a cause ap that we both support.
So, probably just one of those weird temporary glitches all complex, interactive programs occasionally experience.

I have the same problem. They show on the bar at the bottom of my farm and I can visit and water their flowers but they do not show under my neighbors tab nor in my gift list...I "lost" him around the same time we had that glitch where we "lost" a lot of neighbors and had to re-request them back. I still have not gotten them all back.

dottyF
May 18 2010, 08:39 PM
Can someone tell me what happens when you reach the 15 day limit?

isafetish
May 18 2010, 08:41 PM
At level 80 and am still getting coins, but no exp. points?

Toranut97
May 18 2010, 08:42 PM
LOL Oh, yes. I got the juice factory (have passed on getting the snack shop, preserves and snack factory and oil factory) and "planted" a couple of those big willow trees to hide those cardboard carton ends of that factory. Doubt anything will change, but there sure have been lots of comments about the looks of most of the facilities:)

I don't argue with folks who don't like the design, but remember that people who are okay with things tend not to say much of anything....! I like the designs fine, they are distinctive and easy to go to on a farm, not just blending in with the scenery. There are probably others who feel as I do too -- just not saying much about it.

Roses_to_Ashes
May 18 2010, 08:42 PM
At level 80 and am still getting coins, but no exp. points?

so far there are only 80 levels in the game you should still be getting xp points but you won't level up

Lavenda
May 18 2010, 08:48 PM
Can someone tell me what happens when you reach the 15 day limit?

There is anow a pop-up that appears when you reach the 15 day limit on a production, telling you that you have reached the limit. You'll still be able to produce anything else at the facility that isn't at the limit, and whenever a batch is completed you'll be able to start another one, but it won't matter how many times you click the button, if you have reached your limit it won't let you produce more

Lavenda
May 18 2010, 08:50 PM
At level 80 and am still getting coins, but no exp. points?

you should still be getting xp's for everything that gives them. You should notice that your xp number is rising (beyond 533000) but the bar won't move to show your progress towards the next level since there are no more levels (at this stage...)

dottyF
May 18 2010, 08:55 PM
So does everything in that particular 15 day batch have to run through or can u not add a day and start over again?

Lavenda
May 18 2010, 09:19 PM
So does everything in that particular 15 day batch have to run through or can u not add a day and start over again?

As I said, whenever a batch is completed you'll be able to put another one through, but you don't have to wait for the whole 15 days worth to be completed before doing any more. You do not have to clear out the completed product to start more.

(eg the limit on cheese is 540 units or 90 batches. As soon as one of those batches is finished you could start another one.)

dottyF
May 18 2010, 09:20 PM
k thanks. Think I got it.

JustHikk
May 18 2010, 09:36 PM
you should still be getting xp's for everything that gives them. You should notice that your xp number is rising (beyond 533000) but the bar won't move to show your progress towards the next level since there are no more levels (at this stage...)

The bar does move. It just moves really slow. It fills up at 100 million XP now.

SueW170
May 18 2010, 09:39 PM
I don't argue with folks who don't like the design, but remember that people who are okay with things tend not to say much of anything....! I like the designs fine, they are distinctive and easy to go to on a farm, not just blending in with the scenery. There are probably others who feel as I do too -- just not saying much about it.
True, people are more likely to comment about what they don't like than about what they do. Probably I am in the minority regarding the appearance of some of the facilities. Wouldn't be a surprise LOL since I often don't especially like what's "popular." And never have related to "fanciful" or fantasy concepts.
FT is such an excellently designed application that, basically, there is something for every ap participant's taste. And, yes, would like to see some optional designs for facilities, but don't expect that to happen and it's okay. :) Thanks for your comments :)

Lavenda
May 19 2010, 12:52 AM
The bar does move. It just moves really slow. It fills up at 100 million XP now.

ah well, I stand corrected. I thought it used to but now it didn't, maybe I had it the wrong way around

SueW170
May 19 2010, 01:09 AM
I have the same problem. They show on the bar at the bottom of my farm and I can visit and water their flowers but they do not show under my neighbors tab nor in my gift list...I "lost" him around the same time we had that glitch where we "lost" a lot of neighbors and had to re-request them back. I still have not gotten them all back.
Hoping I won't "lose" more. This is the first time it's happened to me. Fortunately it wasn't one of the 5 or 6 FT neighbors who regularly exchange gifts and facilities work invitations.

gunitedna
May 19 2010, 06:37 AM
Where are the cranberries for juice? Can't find them to plant, but I worked in someone's facilities today and got cranberry juice...........
Thanks

sparkle_99
May 19 2010, 06:52 AM
Yes you do have to buy a oil factory.. i think they should do coffee house or something so we can grind our coffee beans and use them..i also think and i know its been said alot of times that we should be able to trade some coins for ft cash..other games do it so i dont know why this one cant

Lavenda
May 19 2010, 07:32 AM
Where are the cranberries for juice? Can't find them to plant, but I worked in someone's facilities today and got cranberry juice...........
Thanks

Cranberries are found under the tree tab, they unlock at level 73

Pretty Prisci
May 19 2010, 08:59 AM
I have now been playing FT for a year. However, my 'art" in creating a grove has reduced the speed with which I gain experience points and coins. I am at level 39 and have over 6.2 mill coins.
I have no place to put a facility. And so I'm wondering how the conversion of produce to product is done.
Could we please get a second farm at a lower level. I missed out getting one for 30 nieghbors: that option closed when I was at 29 neighbors!! ;-(

SunnyD
May 19 2010, 07:23 PM
I have now been playing FT for a year. However, my 'art" in creating a grove has reduced the speed with which I gain experience points and coins. I am at level 39 and have over 6.2 mill coins.
I have no place to put a facility. And so I'm wondering how the conversion of produce to product is done.
Could we please get a second farm at a lower level. I missed out getting one for 30 nieghbors: that option closed when I was at 29 neighbors!! ;-(

you can get a 2nd farm at level 44 i believe

*Level 44 -XP 180000 Plowing PowerBall. You can now buy Patio Sets, Chain Link Fences and Pluot Trees from the store.
Can purchase 2nd farm 12x12 $3,000,000

you can still purchase a third farm after that...it still will require 30 neighbors that hasn't changed that I know of.......

PRT
May 19 2010, 07:29 PM
You don't need 30 neighbors for the second farm, only the third. You do need a higher level than where you are - and 3 mil of course. (That's before additions!)

Capriherb
May 19 2010, 07:40 PM
I have now been playing FT for a year. However, my 'art" in creating a grove has reduced the speed with which I gain experience points and coins. I am at level 39 and have over 6.2 mill coins.
I have no place to put a facility. And so I'm wondering how the conversion of produce to product is done.
Could we please get a second farm at a lower level. I missed out getting one for 30 nieghbors: that option closed when I was at 29 neighbors!! ;-(
Go to the neighbor's request part of this forum and ask for friends who have facilities.
Believe me, with you working your neighbor's facilities, you can level up within a very few days. I went from level 65 to 80 in under a month. And believe me, that's a LOT of XP. But working the facilities is a great way to make coins and level up very quickly.

luvscats
May 19 2010, 08:52 PM
Agree w/Haystack Holly about being able to purchase items...like OLIVE OIL. I am at level 80; get NO FC because I am not advancing...C'mon, you guys gotta keep up with FarmVille, but I really enjoy FT much more!

Lee Ann
May 19 2010, 08:54 PM
I love the ways all you devs just keep coming up with bigger and better . I love Farm Town ! It Rules !!!:p:p:):)

LoreneC
May 20 2010, 06:29 AM
Agree w/Haystack Holly about being able to purchase items...like OLIVE OIL. I am at level 80; get NO FC because I am not advancing...C'mon, you guys gotta keep up with FarmVille, but I really enjoy FT much more!

Keep up with Farmville where generally 90% of the new buildings are cash? I hope not.

Roses_to_Ashes
May 20 2010, 12:38 PM
Keep up with Farmville where generally 90% of the new buildings are cash? I hope not.

yea I agree... 90% of every new item that comes out in FV is for cash.. and they constantly keep doing new updates and never fix issues and glitchy.. I hope Farmtown NEVER becomes like FV

CynthiaSue
May 20 2010, 01:32 PM
While all these new facilities have been rather exciting and I don't really mind that some are cash, I think it is making things too slow. The storage system is just way too slow. If I want to see what I have, it takes forever to load and scroll and if I close it before it is still loading, it keeps loading. If I want to sell things, so there is less in there, it is really slow and I stand a chance of accidentally selling something I rather not sell. the question marks are okay, but really, the only things I want to sell are items that are finished such as cake and icecream. I don't want to sell any harvest even if it isn't used in facilities right now, as who knows when it might be.

Also, my farm loads slower now with all the animals and trees. When I load the facilities I have to wait forever for the points to go up. I realize that part of this may be due to my internet provider as it is better when I am at someone elses house, but alot of people are like me, we have what we have and can not afford something else.

I like the game. I really do and if it weren't for others wanting to do my facilities, I suppose it may be time to take a break from it, as the waiting to load is getting really old, and all the pop ups, and really there is no longer anything for me to work for as I am level 80.

Zoe101
May 20 2010, 02:22 PM
While all these new facilities have been rather exciting and I don't really mind that some are cash, I think it is making things too slow. The storage system is just way too slow. If I want to see what I have, it takes forever to load and scroll and if I close it before it is still loading, it keeps loading. If I want to sell things, so there is less in there, it is really slow and I stand a chance of accidentally selling something I rather not sell. the question marks are okay, but really, the only things I want to sell are items that are finished such as cake and icecream. I don't want to sell any harvest even if it isn't used in facilities right now, as who knows when it might be.

Also, my farm loads slower now with all the animals and trees. When I load the facilities I have to wait forever for the points to go up. I realize that part of this may be due to my internet provider as it is better when I am at someone elses house, but alot of people are like me, we have what we have and can not afford something else.

I like the game. I really do and if it weren't for others wanting to do my facilities, I suppose it may be time to take a break from it, as the waiting to load is getting really old, and all the pop ups, and really there is no longer anything for me to work for as I am level 80.

I have said the same thing before. Animals slow things down thats why it would be so good to have more milk per cow so we dont have to have so many. Also more fruit per tree. I have got trees on top of crops so thats double layering which also slows things down I dont like having all the different trees that we need as it makes the farm look overcrowded and its impossible anyway to have as many trees as we need to get the fruit needed to run the facillities because they only have one fruit per tree. I love this game so much but I really do think that this needs looking into. I never had animals on my farm before because of it slowing it down now I have to have them for milk and I hate it I am thinking of getting rid of them along with my facillities. Also the storage is a big big problem too i have sold stuff i didnt want to and dread going into it to sell produced stuff incase I sell something by accident which i have done several times like 2000 pineapples :( finished items from the facillities need to go into a different storage and things we need to keep like ketchup flour milk should be in another. :) I also think that the production of cheese is way to slow but i got a feeling that it is done on purpose to slow down production so we dont produce too much as we need cheese for a lot of things like sandiches, pizza, cheese cake, nachos and I for one cant produce enough to make everything. :)

jsbh821
May 20 2010, 03:12 PM
Thanks for all the wonderful new things! I love FarmTown and actually just blocked all Farmville gifts etc because I didn't look forward to doing it. I really look forward to farming everyday on FarmTown and have met so many new neighbors which are now friends!! I wish we could have a 4th and 5th farm just for the trees and animals because it's getting slower loading the farms in these days with all that's going on. I love designing farms so therefore I find I am overcrowding them now with trees and animals to keep up with facility needs. Any chance extra farms are in the future?

peachy04
May 20 2010, 04:35 PM
Loving the new facilities. My only thing is, and it has been raised by others, I can't keep up with the cheese. I have nearly all the new facilities & really don't have the room to put more cows, I would suggest either let us send cheese as a gift or speed up the process to make cheese. Thanks for all the new, now just waiting on being able to get farm #4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve Leonard
May 20 2010, 05:02 PM
You can always purchase another facility and put it on another farm. You can have more than one facility to process items, but it needs to be on a separate farm. I have 2 windmills to process flour.

Loving the new facilities. My only thing is, and it has been raised by others, I can't keep up with the cheese. I have nearly all the new facilities & really don't have the room to put more cows, I would suggest either let us send cheese as a gift or speed up the process to make cheese. Thanks for all the new, now just waiting on being able to get farm #4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Big Honking Toe
May 20 2010, 06:32 PM
You can always purchase another facility and put it on another farm. You can have more than one facility to process items, but it needs to be on a separate farm. I have 2 windmills to process flour.

Get to work FT I got 105m and I am lvl 80 I got jack to do.

JustHikk
May 20 2010, 07:22 PM
Get to work FT I got 105m and I am lvl 80 I got jack to do.

Want some "jack" to do? Catch me. I have 200M in storage, 600M on the coin counter, Almost 23M XP. Come catch me. Now, you have a new goal.

Deb NZ
May 20 2010, 07:34 PM
You can always purchase another facility and put it on another farm. You can have more than one facility to process items, but it needs to be on a separate farm. I have 2 windmills to process flour.

Thanks for this uh duh it never occured to me I could have 3 dairy processing plants.Cheese anyone?

JustHikk
May 20 2010, 07:37 PM
Cheese isn't the limiting factor, tomatoes are.

Tony D
May 20 2010, 07:56 PM
Want some "jack" to do? Catch me. I have 200M in storage, 600M on the coin counter, Almost 23M XP. Come catch me. Now, you have a new goal.Only 23M xp's - did you clock it again ?

dottyF
May 20 2010, 08:17 PM
I accidentally sold off my cheese. Now I cant produce it fast enough for pizzas and sandwiches. :(
Wish it could be gifted or we could go to the store and buy some items.

dottyF
May 20 2010, 08:27 PM
Maybe we need a grocery store.

Roses_to_Ashes
May 20 2010, 10:08 PM
Maybe we need a grocery store.

That isn't a bad idea O.o like just like the semi trailer to order meats we could use coins to buy goods at the stores.. maybe it could be incorporated into the market place...

JustHikk
May 20 2010, 10:51 PM
Only 23M xp's - did you clock it again ?

With the facilities, gaining coins and buying XP items is actually a lot easier now. The major limitation is tomatoes to maxing out the facilities. Its impossible (and I literally mean impossible) to grow enough tomatoes to max out the facilities every day. If you apply a business mentality to the game instead of a game mentality, its not that hard to get to 20M in a hurry if your end product is XP.

Tony D
May 20 2010, 10:55 PM
With the facilities, gaining coins and buying XP items is actually a lot easier now. The major limitation is tomatoes to maxing out the facilities. Its impossible (and I literally mean impossible) to grow enough tomatoes to max out the facilities every day. If you apply a business mentality to the game instead of a game mentality, its not that hard to get to 20M in a hurry if your end product is XP. I know - I just thought you had a lot more xp's than that.

JustHikk
May 21 2010, 12:39 AM
I know - I just thought you had a lot more xp's than that.

I stopped playing seriously when they stopped layering and started back when they added the facilities. If I hadn't stopped, probably around 28-30 but not sure.

SueW170
May 21 2010, 02:44 AM
You can always purchase another facility and put it on another farm. You can have more than one facility to process items, but it needs to be on a separate farm. I have 2 windmills to process flour.
I'm losing interest in the facilities -- so far have kept the ones I have producing since I have several very active FT Neighbors and it's nice to give them the opportunity to work my facilities, get some of the products they may be looking for and earn a few Exp. Points. Other than that, doing the facilities has become "same ole, same ole" real quickly. At least plowing, planting and harvesting offers a little variety in choosing what to plant.
At Level 63 and over 2 million coins, I really have little incentive to gain more coins or points since any further expansion of my farm #3 (now wtil 12x12) will be by buying FT Cash over time. Until then (which will be a chance to try some design ideas) FT is becoming pretty boring. I've been playing since early March. FT is a good application and I've stayed with it longer than I ever have any game on or off the computer.

SunnyD
May 21 2010, 04:13 AM
I'm losing interest in the facilities -- so far have kept the ones I have producing since I have several very active FT Neighbors and it's nice to give them the opportunity to work my facilities, get some of the products they may be looking for and earn a few Exp. Points. Other than that, doing the facilities has become "same ole, same ole" real quickly. At least plowing, planting and harvesting offers a little variety in choosing what to plant.
At Level 63 and over 2 million coins, I really have little incentive to gain more coins or points since any further expansion of my farm #3 (now wtil 12x12) will be by buying FT Cash over time. Until then (which will be a chance to try some design ideas) FT is becoming pretty boring. I've been playing since early March. FT is a good application and I've stayed with it longer than I ever have any game on or off the computer.

Ok maybe I don't understand.... forgive me please......but you have to plant and plow to run the facilities and now with so many you get to plant more things...... and you can expand your third farm with coins you don't have to use farm cash to expand it....

John P Darrow
May 21 2010, 04:15 AM
Cheese isn't the limiting factor, tomatoes are.

Not actually true. One of each end product facility, and three each of red windmills and dairy processing, requires 2182 plots kept continuously growing to meet a full production load. This means that if you can keep 2400-2500 plots and harvest, plow, and replant them as soon as possible after they're ready, it's actually possible to produce enough of the planted crops, even tomatoes, to keep up. It's just a lot of work. (Getting friends to gift you blueberries and especially pineapple helps a lot, as it frees up a lot of plot-hours for other production.)

Cheese, however, _is_ an absolute limiting factor, at least under the one-of-a-given-facility-per-farm limit. Back when only the pizzas and the cheesecake required cheese, it was possible to cover them using three dairy processing facilities - the six pizzas together required six cheese every two hours, plus another two every four hours for cheesecake, for a total of 14 cheese consumed per four hours; since cheese produces at 6 per 4 hours, having three facilities met the requirement. But the sandwich facility added another three per hour (twelve per four hours), and nachos another two per four hours, pushing the total requirement up to 28 every four hours, or almost five facilities' worth. Since you only have three farms, making cheese at the required rate is simply impossible. And cheese isn't giftable.

The main issue is that the rates for the production of intermediate goods (flour, cheese, etc.) were set back when there were far less final goods that required them for production. For example, when cheese was first added, there were only three kinds of pizza and the cheesecake, meaning two dairy processing facilities easily sufficed; now, lots more things use cheese, but cheese production still happens at the same speed - it's never been rebalanced.

Another aspect is that many of the facilities' production options seem to reflect a developer's original intent/mindset of a facility with a limited number of production slots, where, for example, you'd have six different types of pizzas available but could only make two types at a time, so you'd have to choose which ones to make based on what toppings you have in stock; whereas, the way the facilities actually work now, production profit efficiency basically demands keeping all six types cooking at once.

JustHikk
May 21 2010, 06:01 AM
Not actually true. One of each end product facility, and three each of red windmills and dairy processing, requires 2182 plots kept continuously growing to meet a full production load. This means that if you can keep 2400-2500 plots and harvest, plow, and replant them as soon as possible after they're ready, it's actually possible to produce enough of the planted crops, even tomatoes, to keep up. It's just a lot of work. (Getting friends to gift you blueberries and especially pineapple helps a lot, as it frees up a lot of plot-hours for other production.)


Assuming you max each facility once a day.

Juice Factory needs 600 Tomatoes to max it out.
Sandwich Factory needs 720 Tomatoes to max it out.
Preserve Factory needs 720 Tomatoes to max it out.
Pizza Parlor needs 2160 Tomatoes to max it out.

Thats a total of 4200 Tomatoes [/]per day[/i] to max out on tomatoes. Tomatos grow every 2 days. That means that every time you plant, you have to plant enough tomatoes to max out for 2 days. Thats 8400 plots of tomatoes. Since each farm only has 1024 plots maximum for a total of 3076 tomatoes max every two days, it leaves you about 5,000 tomatoes short ever two days and that makes it impossible.

Even if you drop the tomato juice and ketchup (that can be gifted) it leaves you needing 2880 tomatos per day, 5660 every time you plant, and its still impossible to do.

Cheese:
Sandwich Factory needs 1080 Cheese per day.
Bakery needs 180 Cheese per day.
Pizza Parlor needs 1080 Cheese per day.
Snack Factory 180 Cheese per day.

2520 Cheese per day.

540 Cheese max production, takes 5 "fillings". That is beyond what you can produce daily with one filling since you can only have 3 facilities producing. But, you aren't limited to producing that cheese on your own farm. If you had 20 neighbors that had 3 dairy facilities each, and you were the first one to work each day, you could run max cheese and not even own a dairy facility.

Both of those make tomatos the limiting factor, not cheese.

Anybody thats having trouble keeping up with cheese I can add as a neighbor to work in my facilities. I have two dairy farms now and can add a third one. Whenever you want to work, send me a note and I will make sure the cheese is maxed out so that when you work you get the maximum benefit of working. At 540 cheese per facility, and the worker getting 20%, if they are maxed out then the worker earns 324 cheese per day from me. I will also be glad to work in dairy facilities to help people get more cheese.

The other thing thats a mark against tomatoes is that in order to be able to max it out, you have to stop growing tomatos to grow the other stuff you need to go with it. Onions, Mushrooms, Pineapples (can be gifted though), etc.. so you lose tomato growing time.


Cheese, however, _is_ an absolute limiting factor, at least under the one-of-a-given-facility-per-farm limit.

No, because your own facility is not the only way to get cheese. With enough neighbors, you can have enough cheese to max out daily without even owning a dairy facility or a cow.


Back when only the pizzas and the cheesecake required cheese, it was possible to cover them using three dairy processing facilities - the six pizzas together required six cheese every two hours, plus another two every four hours for cheesecake, for a total of 14 cheese consumed per four hours; since cheese produces at 6 per 4 hours, having three facilities met the requirement. But the sandwich facility added another three per hour (twelve per four hours), and nachos another two per four hours, pushing the total requirement up to 28 every four hours, or almost five facilities' worth. Since you only have three farms, making cheese at the required rate is simply impossible. And cheese isn't giftable.

Cheese isn't giftable but the milk is, and, you can work in other facilities to gain cheese. The *only* way to get tomatoes is to grow them.


The main issue is that the rates for the production of intermediate goods (flour, cheese, etc.) were set back when there were far less final goods that required them for production. For example, when cheese was first added, there were only three kinds of pizza and the cheesecake, meaning two dairy processing facilities easily sufficed; now, lots more things use cheese, but cheese production still happens at the same speed - it's never been rebalanced.

Another aspect is that many of the facilities' production options seem to reflect a developer's original intent/mindset of a facility with a limited number of production slots, where, for example, you'd have six different types of pizzas available but could only make two types at a time, so you'd have to choose which ones to make based on what toppings you have in stock; whereas, the way the facilities actually work now, production profit efficiency basically demands keeping all six types cooking at once.

And the impetus to keeping all six maxed out at once is tomatoes, not cheese :)

dottyF
May 21 2010, 06:01 AM
Im finding that it is impossible to use the sandwich bakery and pizza at the same time. there is no way to produce enough cheese to use all 3 of these . If there is I haven't found it. My pizza facility is becoming useless to me.

JustHikk
May 21 2010, 06:03 AM
Im finding that it is impossible to use the sandwich bakery and pizza at the same time. there is no way to produce enough cheese to use all 3 of these . If there is I haven't found it. My pizza facility is becoming useless to me.

Cheese isn't the limiting factor. You can produce 1620 cheese per day on your own if you have the cows to do it. Thats 540 Cheese per factory with a dairy facility on each of 3 farms. Add to that working in neighbors facility and earning 20% of the cheese produced, you can get enough cheese. Then, you will realize that tomatos are the limiting factor, not cheese.

Gloria Platt Coplen
May 21 2010, 06:37 AM
Maybe we need a grocery store.Just work someone else's facility. They maybe making cheese, therefore you would get some extra cheese that way.

Gloria Platt Coplen
May 21 2010, 06:42 AM
I'm having trouble growing enough wheat and flour to keep up with all the sandwich, bakery and pizza places. I try to have different stages of growth going so that I always have some growing but it limits my growth of other things needed. I can't believe it but I ran out of grapes the other day. I've been keeping my selling of the juice up high but may have to cut back on amount sold per day. Still ready for a roaster/grinder for the coffee beans.
My only complaint is to go to work a facility for someone else and they have two of each item and by the time you get there it's already done. I suggest they wait until they have a good amount to work the facility before advertising it as workable.

Little Wing
May 21 2010, 07:05 AM
Can I ask: when did the game - for those who seem unhappy with the facilities and such - stop becoming fun for you? Why does it have to be so much of a chore, to the point where you worry about how many cows, how many crops of this or that, in order to get cheese, flour, berries, whatever?

You are computing, instead of just having fun. I saw the same thing last year when FT players started whipping out the calculator to figure out how much pineapple to plant, versus anything else. For most of us who have been playing for more than six months (for example), we have plenty of money and enough room to plant and then to produce at whatever facilities we own. Why angst over it?

I've been playing for about a year and three months. I have three farms, all but two of the facilities, many millions of coins and I play every day. I've had a total blast collecting all of it, and I never worried a bit; I just enjoyed.

If I have enough wheat for flour, then I produce it. If I have enough flour for pizza, then I make it. If I don't, then I either play with something else on the farm or I step away from it until my crops are ready and I can harvest and start producing again. I still go in the marketplace and help other farmers, and I still pop on my neighbors' farms for a shout-out. I'm still having fun and it's not costing me a second's tension or stress.

I guess I don't understand. I know some people thrive on stress and tension, many people are very competitive when it comes to games and others are just worry-warts. The creators of FT have given us every single thing we have asked for. Think of it: when I started playing in March 2009, the highest level was 34, crops were very limited and so were the decorations and such. We didn't have any flowers. We barely had fencing. Now, we have so many wonderful things to play with, and people are still agonizing, now over things like how much milk they need to make cheese.

Sit back and enjoy it! So what if you can't keep all your facilities pumping at top speed? What are you going to do with all those coins, anyhow? Collect them until we are allocated Farm Number Four? That's a good idea, but why worry about it when it may not ever happen? Enjoy what you have now, have fun, and maybe give a little 'thanks' shout-out to the game gurus who have worked so hard to keep everybody happy.

So, with that in mind: Thanks, Farm Town Gurus! I'm still having a blast.

Little Wing

Tony D
May 21 2010, 07:11 AM
Can I ask: when did the game - for those who seem unhappy with the facilities and such - stop becoming fun for you? Why does it have to be so much of a chore, to the point where you worry about how many cows, how many crops of this or that, in order to get cheese, flour, berries, whatever?

You are computing, instead of just having fun. I saw the same thing last year when FT players started whipping out the calculator to figure out how much pineapple to plant, versus anything else. For most of us who have been playing for more than six months (for example), we have plenty of money and enough room to plant and then to produce at whatever facilities we own. Why angst over it?

I've been playing for about a year and three months. I have three farms, all but two of the facilities, many millions of coins and I play every day. I've had a total blast collecting all of it, and I never worried a bit; I just enjoyed.

If I have enough wheat for flour, then I produce it. If I have enough flour for pizza, then I make it. If I don't, then I either play with something else on the farm or I step away from it until my crops are ready and I can harvest and start producing again. I still go in the marketplace and help other farmers, and I still pop on my neighbors' farms for a shout-out. I'm still having fun and it's not costing me a second's tension or stress.

I guess I don't understand. I know some people thrive on stress and tension, many people are very competitive when it comes to games and others are just worry-warts. The creators of FT have given us every single thing we have asked for. Think of it: when I started playing in March 2009, the highest level was 34, crops were very limited and so were the decorations and such. We didn't have any flowers. We barely had fencing. Now, we have so many wonderful things to play with, and people are still agonizing, now over things like how much milk they need to make cheese.

Sit back and enjoy it! So what if you can't keep all your facilities pumping at top speed? What are you going to do with all those coins, anyhow? Collect them until we are allocated Farm Number Four? That's a good idea, but why worry about it when it may not ever happen? Enjoy what you have now, have fun, and maybe give a little 'thanks' shout-out to the game gurus who have worked so hard to keep everybody happy.

So, with that in mind: Thanks, Farm Town Gurus! I'm still having a blast.

Little WingGreat post Little Wing - I totally agree ;) As far as I am concerned same goes for Farm Cash - If I have it I buy things , if not I make do with what I have.

JustHikk
May 21 2010, 07:50 AM
Little Wing

She's baaaaaaaaaaccccccccckkkkkkkkk!!! :Þ

Little Wing
May 21 2010, 07:55 AM
She's baaaaaaaaaaccccccccckkkkkkkkk!!! :Þ

Ahh. One of the computing folk. I hope you're still having fun, Hikk! That's what it's all about.

Little Wing

JustHikk
May 21 2010, 08:06 AM
If it ever stops being fun, I will stop playing the game. As for being a "computing folk", that is part of what makes the game so much fun to me. Always has. Guess I am warped :)

LoreneC
May 21 2010, 08:08 AM
Can I ask: when did the game - for those who seem unhappy with the facilities and such - stop becoming fun for you? Why does it have to be so much of a chore, to the point where you worry about how many cows, how many crops of this or that, in order to get cheese, flour, berries, whatever?

You are computing, instead of just having fun. I saw the same thing last year when FT players started whipping out the calculator to figure out how much pineapple to plant, versus anything else. For most of us who have been playing for more than six months (for example), we have plenty of money and enough room to plant and then to produce at whatever facilities we own. Why angst over it?

I've been playing for about a year and three months. I have three farms, all but two of the facilities, many millions of coins and I play every day. I've had a total blast collecting all of it, and I never worried a bit; I just enjoyed.

If I have enough wheat for flour, then I produce it. If I have enough flour for pizza, then I make it. If I don't, then I either play with something else on the farm or I step away from it until my crops are ready and I can harvest and start producing again. I still go in the marketplace and help other farmers, and I still pop on my neighbors' farms for a shout-out. I'm still having fun and it's not costing me a second's tension or stress.

I guess I don't understand. I know some people thrive on stress and tension, many people are very competitive when it comes to games and others are just worry-warts. The creators of FT have given us every single thing we have asked for. Think of it: when I started playing in March 2009, the highest level was 34, crops were very limited and so were the decorations and such. We didn't have any flowers. We barely had fencing. Now, we have so many wonderful things to play with, and people are still agonizing, now over things like how much milk they need to make cheese.

Sit back and enjoy it! So what if you can't keep all your facilities pumping at top speed? What are you going to do with all those coins, anyhow? Collect them until we are allocated Farm Number Four? That's a good idea, but why worry about it when it may not ever happen? Enjoy what you have now, have fun, and maybe give a little 'thanks' shout-out to the game gurus who have worked so hard to keep everybody happy.

So, with that in mind: Thanks, Farm Town Gurus! I'm still having a blast.

Little Wing


This is exactly what I wanted to say but lacked your eloquent way of putting it! Thanks for posting this!

Little Wing
May 21 2010, 08:17 AM
If it ever stops being fun, I will stop playing the game. As for being a "computing folk", that is part of what makes the game so much fun to me. Always has. Guess I am warped :)

Warped? You? Never! :rolleyes:

Are you still doing the layers? I never did get the hang of it.

Aren't you glad we stopped stalking each other? :eek:

:)

Little Wing

Nanny's Nook
May 21 2010, 08:19 AM
Can I ask: when did the game - for those who seem unhappy with the facilities and such - stop becoming fun for you? Why does it have to be so much of a chore, to the point where you worry about how many cows, how many crops of this or that, in order to get cheese, flour, berries, whatever?

You are computing, instead of just having fun. I saw the same thing last year when FT players started whipping out the calculator to figure out how much pineapple to plant, versus anything else. For most of us who have been playing for more than six months (for example), we have plenty of money and enough room to plant and then to produce at whatever facilities we own. Why angst over it?

I've been playing for about a year and three months. I have three farms, all but two of the facilities, many millions of coins and I play every day. I've had a total blast collecting all of it, and I never worried a bit; I just enjoyed.

If I have enough wheat for flour, then I produce it. If I have enough flour for pizza, then I make it. If I don't, then I either play with something else on the farm or I step away from it until my crops are ready and I can harvest and start producing again. I still go in the marketplace and help other farmers, and I still pop on my neighbors' farms for a shout-out. I'm still having fun and it's not costing me a second's tension or stress.

I guess I don't understand. I know some people thrive on stress and tension, many people are very competitive when it comes to games and others are just worry-warts. The creators of FT have given us every single thing we have asked for. Think of it: when I started playing in March 2009, the highest level was 34, crops were very limited and so were the decorations and such. We didn't have any flowers. We barely had fencing. Now, we have so many wonderful things to play with, and people are still agonizing, now over things like how much milk they need to make cheese.

Sit back and enjoy it! So what if you can't keep all your facilities pumping at top speed? What are you going to do with all those coins, anyhow? Collect them until we are allocated Farm Number Four? That's a good idea, but why worry about it when it may not ever happen? Enjoy what you have now, have fun, and maybe give a little 'thanks' shout-out to the game gurus who have worked so hard to keep everybody happy.

So, with that in mind: Thanks, Farm Town Gurus! I'm still having a blast.
Little Wing

Very well said Little Wing! I've been playing for over a year now, and I still love this GAME. I will admit when the facilities first came out I stressed about how I was going to keep them full and running, but I use what I have. I've gotten pretty self-sufficient now between what I plant and harvest, and with my wonderful gift-giving friends (which have taken me a year to find, thank you all!) I don't feel the need to max out all my facilities on a regular basis, as a matter of fact I don't know that I ever max out anything except raspberry yogurt. It's a game, it's a stress-reliever for me, and I'm having fun!

Little Wing
May 21 2010, 08:20 AM
Great post Little Wing - I totally agree ;) As far as I am concerned same goes for Farm Cash - If I have it I buy things , if not I make do with what I have.


This is exactly what I wanted to say but lacked your eloquent way of putting it! Thanks for posting this!

Thanks, guys! I do love this game!

Little Wing

Little Wing
May 21 2010, 08:22 AM
Very well said Little Wing! I've been playing for over a year now, and I still love this GAME. I will admit when the facilities first came out I stressed about how I was going to keep them full and running, but I use what I have. I've gotten pretty self-sufficient now between what I plant and harvest, and with my wonderful gift-giving friends (which have taken me a year to find, thank you all!) I don't feel the need to max out all my facilities on a regular basis, as a matter of fact I don't know that I ever max out anything except raspberry yogurt. It's a game, it's a stress-reliever for me, and I'm having fun!

Exactly, Nanny. I don't think I've maxed out any of the facilities. I just load them up with whatever I have, and then sell, sell, sell!

Hee -

Little Wing

JustHikk
May 21 2010, 08:41 AM
Exactly, Nanny. I don't think I've maxed out any of the facilities. I just load them up with whatever I have, and then sell, sell, sell!

Hee -

Little Wing

I have maxed them out but I have very seldom tried to plant to max out as much as just plant things I knew I would need. The tomato post was the results of me getting tired of the "cheese is the limiting factor" post when it isn't.

I have planted tomatos once in the last 2 weeks.....

Warped? You? Never! :rolleyes:

Are you still doing the layers? I never did get the hang of it.

Aren't you glad we stopped stalking each other? :eek:

:)

Little Wing

I wish I could find the tree dude that stalked that thread. I have 9200 mango trees that need a harvester.

But, I never stalked you, you always stalked me ;)

Little Wing
May 21 2010, 08:51 AM
I wish I could find the tree dude that stalked that thread. I have 9200 mango trees that need a harvester.

But, I never stalked you, you always stalked me ;)

So you always say.

You want your trees harvested? Can do, just let me know. I still enjoy rending fruit. Ha -

Little Wing, who NEVER stalks

Maegaret
May 21 2010, 08:58 AM
where do i get pigs from please

Maegaret
May 21 2010, 08:59 AM
Maegaret;3542890]where do i get pigs from please

JustHikk
May 21 2010, 09:18 AM
So you always say.

You want your trees harvested? Can do, just let me know. I still enjoy rending fruit. Ha -

Little Wing, who NEVER stalks

Come to my farm, I will hire you. I did about 200 last night to put in the facilities but theres still 8500+ left you can harvest. Then, you can come back here and tell everybody I was telling the truth and you were mistaken :)

JustHikk
May 21 2010, 09:20 AM
where do i get pigs from please

Gifts only

lighthouse02
May 21 2010, 10:44 AM
Can I ask: when did the game - for those who seem unhappy with the facilities and such - stop becoming fun for you? Why does it have to be so much of a chore, to the point where you worry about how many cows, how many crops of this or that, in order to get cheese, flour, berries, whatever?

You are computing, instead of just having fun. I saw the same thing last year when FT players started whipping out the calculator to figure out how much pineapple to plant, versus anything else. For most of us who have been playing for more than six months (for example), we have plenty of money and enough room to plant and then to produce at whatever facilities we own. Why angst over it?

I've been playing for about a year and three months. I have three farms, all but two of the facilities, many millions of coins and I play every day. I've had a total blast collecting all of it, and I never worried a bit; I just enjoyed.

If I have enough wheat for flour, then I produce it. If I have enough flour for pizza, then I make it. If I don't, then I either play with something else on the farm or I step away from it until my crops are ready and I can harvest and start producing again. I still go in the marketplace and help other farmers, and I still pop on my neighbors' farms for a shout-out. I'm still having fun and it's not costing me a second's tension or stress.

I guess I don't understand. I know some people thrive on stress and tension, many people are very competitive when it comes to games and others are just worry-warts. The creators of FT have given us every single thing we have asked for. Think of it: when I started playing in March 2009, the highest level was 34, crops were very limited and so were the decorations and such. We didn't have any flowers. We barely had fencing. Now, we have so many wonderful things to play with, and people are still agonizing, now over things like how much milk they need to make cheese.

Sit back and enjoy it! So what if you can't keep all your facilities pumping at top speed? What are you going to do with all those coins, anyhow? Collect them until we are allocated Farm Number Four? That's a good idea, but why worry about it when it may not ever happen? Enjoy what you have now, have fun, and maybe give a little 'thanks' shout-out to the game gurus who have worked so hard to keep everybody happy.

So, with that in mind: Thanks, Farm Town Gurus! I'm still having a blast.

Little Wing

Thank you! I was beginning to wonder if maybe I was missing the point planting a little of this and a little of that. I'm playing this for relaxation, not to make myself crazy. The facilities have really made the game for me.

gtosga
May 21 2010, 10:55 AM
was thinking roasted chestnuts could be added to snack factory and soybeans into milk in dairy... really need a textile facility badly and a coffee grinder/coffeehouse. Think it is very unfair we have to depend on gifts for most of the trees; takes way too long to build up a big enough orchard and fuel is needed alot too so then u wait for trees even longer!

Ike8266
May 21 2010, 11:09 AM
was thinking roasted chestnuts could be added to snack factory and soybeans into milk in dairy... really need a textile facility badly and a coffee grinder/coffeehouse. Think it is very unfair we have to depend on gifts for most of the trees; takes way too long to build up a big enough orchard and fuel is needed alot too so then u wait for trees even longer!


ask your friends to send you more trees. ask them what they want and send it to them.

Roses_to_Ashes
May 21 2010, 11:10 AM
Im finding that it is impossible to use the sandwich bakery and pizza at the same time. there is no way to produce enough cheese to use all 3 of these . If there is I haven't found it. My pizza facility is becoming useless to me.

best thing I could suggest is ask for friend ti send you milk... ad a second milk facility on another farm and keep accepting cows..

John P Darrow
May 21 2010, 01:11 PM
Assuming you max each facility once a day. [...]
Both of those make tomatos the limiting factor, not cheese. [...]
because your own facility is not the only way to get cheese. With enough neighbors, you can have enough cheese to max out daily without even owning a dairy facility or a cow.
And the impetus to keeping all six maxed out at once is tomatoes, not cheese :)

The only way you can "max each facility once a day" is to have lots of people come in and speed up your production. If you and your neighbours really have enough lack of outside life for them to be able to come in at your beck and call instantly every time you stuff your facilities (and vice versa), more power to you. (But why stop at once a day?)

My numbers are based strictly on a self-sustaining farm at its _natural_ maximum rate - i.e. no production-speeding from others, minimal gifts (primarily the unproduceable ground coffee and pickles). That was the whole point of the puzzle for me. But then again, I've never played games quite the way other people seem to play them.

halfshot
May 21 2010, 04:22 PM
I am enjoying all of the facilities but I am wondering when we will be able to buy a coffee mill to grind our coffee. Also, are we going to get anymore levels? Oh one more thing, why cann't we be able to buy hotdog sausage from our semi's?
Thanks,
Ann Marie

Chickadee16
May 21 2010, 04:35 PM
Raul -
why o why are lemon trees not used for lemon pies, for lemon cakes, for lemonade (juice), for lemon bars, for lemon drops, etc.??? I've got a ton of lemon trees and no place to use the wonderful lemons!
~andrea chickadee~
Chickadee's Farms 1, 2, 3

SueW170
May 21 2010, 05:18 PM
Ok maybe I don't understand.... forgive me please......but you have to plant and plow to run the facilities and now with so many you get to plant more things...... and you can expand your third farm with coins you don't have to use farm cash to expand it....
Thanks for your comments SleepyHallow. Yes, of course one has to plow, choose what to plant and plant and harvest it and that's still fun. I enjoy trying, as much as practical within the constraints of the game, to select crops which would actually grow in the region where my virtual farm is located. Occasional planting of small quantities of pineapples and sugar cane being exceptions.
True, I could expand my 3rd farm without spending real $$, just prefer not to add more FB "friends" simply for purposes of playing the game and the number I now have (16 neighbors 5 or 6 who are active participants in FT) seems enough to conscientiously keep up with. So, that part is a choice I've made. Actually, thinking ahead and planning possibilities for future expansions is almost more run than maintaining things once the expansions and design work is finished LOL Nice to always have something for down-the-line.
Now why do I find plowing and planting more fun than the facilities? Had to analyze that a bit since I believe that everything (even our reactions to something) have a logical basis. My conclusion is that plowing, planting and harvesting are visual and require a bit of conscious thought -- which plow tool (1, 2 or 4 plots) to choose; whether to use no seeder, the small seeder or the big seeder; and same with the harvester tools. The "look and feel" is more real than simply clicking repetitively to put stuff into production at the facilities.
And, yes, I'm a logic freak LOL Just call me Ms. Spock ;)

luvscats
May 21 2010, 07:02 PM
What is MEAT and CHICKEN going to be used for?

Farmer_Susan
May 21 2010, 07:05 PM
YES!!! I wanna know about the meat and chicken! Tell! Tell! (Think I'll go order some so I'll be ready for whatever's coming. Is that someone who loves this game or what??? LOL)

JustHikk
May 21 2010, 07:19 PM
If you and your neighbours really have enough lack of outside life for them to be able to come in at your beck and call instantly every time you stuff your facilities (and vice versa), more power to you. (But why stop at once a day?)

I thought we were discussing the limitation being tomato instead of cheese. Since you can't seem to stay on that train of thought, I won't argue with you. If you want to keep thinking that cheese is the limitation, feel free to be incorrect in your thinking. Trying to get you to have a decent intellectual conversation has been proven to be futile.

Lbishop1213
May 21 2010, 07:28 PM
YES!!! I wanna know about the meat and chicken! Tell! Tell! (Think I'll go order some so I'll be ready for whatever's coming. Is that someone who loves this game or what??? LOL)

We can now make fuel, have a flour shop and the meat and chicken is for the taco restaurant!!!!! I am hoping for new levels soon:)

Double T Dude Ranch
May 21 2010, 07:34 PM
Meat and chicken are for the taco restaurant.