New Release -- August 30th, 2011

[CSLewis]

If you water your friends flowers they can still use the red sprinkler and speed up the growth of crops and flowers that same day.

No Jas, that is incorrect. I am fastidious about keeping everything on a schedule. I made the mistake of watering my dead flowers before I hired someone to harvest them, I removed the red sprinkler from my storage and used the brown to water. After they were harvested I couldn't irrigate them. 4 days ago I hired someone to harvest my flowers. I have 2 full farms. After she did the first farm I watered with my red sprinkler. It cut the time in half. When I went to the 2nd farm after they were harvested she watered them and I tried to use my red sprinkler and it told me I couldn't. So my flowers were off sequence.
So yesterday I watered to make sure they wouldn't die by the time I got around to harvesting today. I had someone harvest them and it said I had to wait 25 minutes to water again. Okay no problem. I did other things. I came back 35 min later and someone had watered them. I tried to use my red sprinkler and it told me A farm can only be watered once a day.

I rarely make complaints. I love this game and have spent hundreds of dollars on it. I am quite ****** I spent money on the red sprinkler and half the time I can't use it because a neighbor does something nice and it ends up screwing me. This really needs to be fixed. Perhaps make the brown/white sprinkler just a sprinkler and the red on an irrigation device. That way if flowers don't get harvested on time and someone needs to water them before they can and then I can still irrigate after. To me this setup is a major issue that needs to be addressed.

[Angel7]

I WANT MY BROWN SPRINKLER BACK - I have a 12 hour crop growing on farm 3 that won't be ready until 11:00 pm tonight, but my decorative flowers on that farm need watering. I don't know what I'm gonna plant 10 hours from now and my flowers are getting ready to die. This is ridiculous. I should be able to water without it affecting the function of the red sprinkler. Why do we have to SCREAM to get anything done. The fact is, if I bought a Monopoly game at the store, it would work exactly the same 10 years from now as it does today. Same should be true when you take our money to play your game.....GIVE US BACK WHAT WE ALREADY PAID FOR.

I will really think twice before spending ANY more money on any of these games because it may be gone tomorrow on the whim of somebody that doesn't even play the game every day.

[CSLewis]

Okay after I posted a little bit ago I read through the rest of the posts and I figured a few things out.

1) For those that keep saying they don't want to speed up their flower time. This is a moot point because flowers just wither and need to be re watered to come back. They do not spoil. And regardless if you speed up time or not, if you wait to long they will wither. So why not speed them up and get double the output?

2) As for neighbors watering and that preventing us from using the red sprinkler I figured it out with the help of other people who have posted. Both of my farms with flowers only have flowers and facilities. I do not plant crops. As one person suggested I went and put down one field, planted a grape, then tried to irrigate to speed up my flowers. It worked. Then I deleted the plot pf grapes. While I am glad this was figured out that still leaves issues.
A) If people do not have room to put down a plot then that "fix" will not work for them.
B) Should I really have to spend the time to plow, plant, irrigate and then delete one plot every time I want to speed up my flowers? It is a bit annoying.

[caligirl62]

all the issues that every one is having with the new sprinkler...is the reason i will not purchase it!! ugh!!

[Majik Merlin]

I'm probably in the wrong pew but where do you use the cork oak trees or do you use them at all? Would really appreciate someone answering this. Thanks

you need cork in the fishing supplies

[Tiger]

Mine just says mobile sprinkler.
I also moved the flowers to a different farm and added some more. That farm also says moblile sprinkler.
Neither farm has been irrigated by me in the last 20hrs

Thanks :)
Hello,
Thank you for your information. One more question, do you have any crops on the farm that you are having problems using the red sprinkler on? If not, and you have room, could you try plowing 1 field and plant anything on it, then try using the red sprinkler. See if it lets you use it.

Just harvested flowers on 11 again (same farm). When I tried to water them it said flowers can only be watered once a day. When I hover over the flowers one of the rain drop symbols is clear so I don't think anyone watered there today. When I hover over the sprinkler symbol it just says "mobile sprinkler". I haven't watered that farm since 9/10/11.

Hello,

You really need 2 or more drops clear before you water again. If i remember correctly, wasn't this the farm you moved the flowers to today? If it was, the water drops would have reset when you placed them on the new farm.
Have you put any crops on farm 11 yet? If not, and you have the space, try plowing and planting 1 field, then see if the red sprinkler will let you speed up growth time.

[LoreneC]

I am sure the sprinkler bugs are being worked on.

In the meantime I had a farm with flowers, no crops and I could not water it. I plowed one field, planted and was able to water. Since then I have deleted the one plot but am still able to water. Just an FYI.

[Original Tee]

I was fine with the red sprinkler until today when I went to my farms and all my flowers were wilted.
I put the brown sprinkler on one farm and tried that. No, that does not work. It triggers the flag indicating that irrigation has taken place by the red sprinkler and I must wait 20 hours to use the actual function of the red sprinkler to decrease harvest time.
I had a friend come to water a farm with only flowers on it. I thought this worked because the popup over the red sprinkler did not show after they were watered. No, that didn't work until after I planted one crop on that farm then I was able to irrigate with the red sprinkler.
The farms that I already had crops on were then a problem because I had only asked my friend to water the big flower farm without crops which she did right before logging off. If I used the red sprinkler to irrigate I'd be wasting it because the crops were already irrigated and it wouldn't really irrigate anything. I'd have to wait 20 hours to irrigate again. None of my friends with the sprinkler were online and I couldn't get anyone in the market to come water them for me. I had no choice but to use the old bucket to water all my flowers and that took forever! Finally I was done with all my flowers so that later when I planted new crops I was able to irrigate them.
All but the one farm which I used the brown sprinkler on turned out okay but the time it took to do this was soooo frustrating.
When each of the sprinklers came out I purchased them immediately just like every other tool in this game that decreases the amount of clicks I have to make. I have always felt they were well worth the real money it costs to buy them! Until now. Now I feel that I completely lost the money I spent on the brown sprinkler because it is no longer in the game for me. It is still there for anyone that does not own the red one, but disappears as soon as you buy the red one.
I don't understand why this is still the case after reading all of the complaints here on the forum about taking away our brown sprinkler. Having worked on code all my life, I am sure that the code for the brown sprinkler function is archived and could be reimplemented while keeping the function of the new red sprinkler by adding a couple flags. It wouldn't put it back into the extended tools box but at least the functionality would be back if we placed it on our farms. The developers have always worked hard to correct things that didn't go quite well in a new release and I have all the respect in the world for this great team of developers.
It is a bit disheartening, though, to see the statement that there are no known issues as of Sept 2nd in the first post of this thread. I feel as many others do that the loss of the brown sprinkler function of only watering wilted flowers should be listed as a known issue so that we at least know you are working on restoring it to us. After all, we did pay 50 FC for the new red sprinkler not knowing we would be losing the function of the brown sprinkler.

[rockhopper]

Hello,
Thank you for your information. One more question, do you have any crops on the farm that you are having problems using the red sprinkler on? If not, and you have room, could you try plowing 1 field and plant anything on it, then try using the red sprinkler. See if it lets you use it.

Thanks Tiger, I plowed one field and planted and could use the red sprinkler straight after :)

[shirley_tren@yahoo.com]

thank you for the updates when are the next levels coming out

[Dr. Dirt]

Hello,
Thank you for your information. One more question, do you have any crops on the farm that you are having problems using the red sprinkler on? If not, and you have room, could you try plowing 1 field and plant anything on it, then try using the red sprinkler. See if it lets you use it.



Hello,

You really need 2 or more drops clear before you water again. If i remember correctly, wasn't this the farm you moved the flowers to today? If it was, the water drops would have reset when you placed them on the new farm.
Have you put any crops on farm 11 yet? If not, and you have the space, try plowing and planting 1 field, then see if the red sprinkler will let you speed up growth time.

No.that was another players post that mentioned moving flowers. I have not moved these or watered them for over 2 days. I'm just wondering if this issue is being resolved. Since I haven't watered these for over a day I should be able to water them, even if a neighbor did, according to the devs. I can wait until there is a fix if I know one is coming. I would rather not go through the crop plot fix each time. I don't have the room for a plot anyway.

[Franny2]

Thanks SO much, Raul!! I have been working hot & heavy on Farm 11 am am now ready for farm 12 ... hint,hint. Y'all are great!!

[Majik Merlin]

can somone point me to the guide where I can see what xps are needed for each level???

[rposer@googlemail.com]

Well, RAUL told us what the content of the new update was. It would be more interesstind to have an annoncement what will be on the plan for the next update ...

red sprinkler was a bad idea :-( Would have been great if that would have been an upgrade more in the way of the fertalized fields or at least without that 20 h waiting period.

[maggiel29]

Has anyone passed this fault onto the Developers??
I have tried everything - including taking horses out, storing stables etc etc.
The stables(both sorts) one on farm 2 and the other on farm 4 show as ready but when I click on them in the facility Mgr they say no animals ready etc.

Its not a huge problem but it should work!!!

[Deborah1979]

:) In the New Release July 28, 2011...down at the bottom of Raul's post under Bug Fixes & Post-Launch Updates:
#9 The tench fish was removed from all waters.....All fish now have a use except for the Sturgeon which will be used in the next release.
(edit by Raul on August 03, 2011 at 5:23 pm)

Have I overlooked something?? Sturgeon is still showing as a "non-ingredient".

Maybe this was just an oversight?? Can Raul & the devs add this in a "post-launch" update for the August 30, 2011 update, or will we wait for the next update to use the Sturgeon?

Thanks for checking on this to the mods. (And I know the red sprinkler thingy has been getting priority on getting the glitches straightened out and fish would come way down the list.) :D

:confused:
I guess with all of the problems with the sprinklers, my post was overlooked! :eek:
Sure would like to know IF Sturgeon is really going to be added like it was promised in the previous release info.
Thanks for a reply!!

[tnbskts]

can somone point me to the guide where I can see what xps are needed for each level???

It's here:

http://www.slashkey.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3881822#post3881822

[patios]

I am really disappointed in the red sprinkler. I do not get to play FT like I used to so when I saw this tool I thought it was something that would come in handy and allow me to make the most out of my game time. Boy was I wrong. I figured that it would work like the manure spreader by the description but it definitely does not and I feel that the description is rather deceptive. If it only works one time a day on fields and will not allow you to use it on multiple crops in one day then it should have said so. I would not have purchased it because it is those quick growing crops that I have the hardest time with because of timing issues and when I can play.

I am guessing that item will be my last farm cash purchase. It cost me $10 real dollars and I would have rather have spent that money elsewhere if I knew that it wasn't going to do what I thought it was. (based on past tools and purchases made)

[bucknine]

Is anybody else having problems posting for help in the facilities?

[Taz D]

Is anybody else having problems posting for help in the facilities?
Many have had problems with it and fixed it. Is your poroblem that the publish windows does not show up after you click to do so? If this is it then here are instructions on how to fix that:
http://www.slashkey.com/forum/showthread.php?t=438942
If it is you publish but they are not showing on your wall then check your setting in Facebook to make sure you don't have Farm Town blocked and it is allowed to post to your wall.

[Caren Katsmom]

I am really disappointed in the red sprinkler. I do not get to play FT like I used to so when I saw this tool I thought it was something that would come in handy and allow me to make the most out of my game time. Boy was I wrong. I figured that it would work like the manure spreader by the description but it definitely does not and I feel that the description is rather deceptive. If it only works one time a day on fields and will not allow you to use it on multiple crops in one day then it should have said so. I would not have purchased it because it is those quick growing crops that I have the hardest time with because of timing issues and when I can play.

I am guessing that item will be my last farm cash purchase. It cost me $10 real dollars and I would have rather have spent that money elsewhere if I knew that it wasn't going to do what I thought it was. (based on past tools and purchases made)

DITTO! This red sprinkler is a huge disaster. I wish I'd never SEEN the thing, much less purchased it. It has completely ruined my game, and I'm NOT having fun anymore. It took me months to get all the flowers on ten farms in sync, ready to harvest at the same time. The red sprinkler has taken away any practical hope of keeping all the flowers in sync.. ever again. Even when I struggle to water ten farms at the same time, I can't stop a neighbor from coming by and watering ONE farm earlier. As for crops... I have a wasted crop disaster tonight on two farms. Why? Because the lousy red sprinkler sped up BOTH the time until harvest AND the time until crop wasting. While staring at obviously wasted crops, the label above those crops says "Ready to Harvest (F) -- Wasted in 8 Hours." :mad:

I feel trapped by the red sprinkler. I'm furious that Slashkey has NOT given us back the original sprinkler in our toolbox WITH the original use only.. to water flowers, with no speeding up of crops. I want a CHOICE again! I want to feel in control of my own farms again! :mad: Speeding up anything is not worth the awful consequences; and I see nothing whatsoever from Slashkey or moderators about fixing the problems... or even admitting there ARE problems.

I've written to Support to request that they TAKE AWAY this horrible red sprinkler, and refund my 50 Farm Cash. I encourage everyone else who feels the way Patios and I feel, to also request a refund.

[lindaridder]

Caren - you don't need to keep the tools physically on your farm. If you place them in your storage they will work on all farms from the tool box.

[driverdave]

DITTO! This red sprinkler is a huge disaster. I wish I'd never SEEN the thing, much less purchased it. It has completely ruined my game, and I'm NOT having fun anymore. It took me months to get all the flowers on ten farms in sync, ready to harvest at the same time. The red sprinkler has taken away any practical hope of keeping all the flowers in sync.. ever again. Even when I struggle to water ten farms at the same time, I can't stop a neighbor from coming by and watering ONE farm earlier. As for crops... I have a wasted crop disaster tonight on two farms. Why? Because the lousy red sprinkler sped up BOTH the time until harvest AND the time until crop wasting. While staring at obviously wasted crops, the label above those crops says "Ready to Harvest (F) -- Wasted in 8 Hours." :mad:

I feel trapped by the red sprinkler. I'm furious that Slashkey has NOT given us back the original sprinkler in our toolbox WITH the original use only.. to water flowers, with no speeding up of crops. I want a CHOICE again! I want to feel in control of my own farms again! :mad: Speeding up anything is not worth the awful consequences; and I see nothing whatsoever from Slashkey or moderators about fixing the problems... or even admitting there ARE problems.

I've written to Support to request that they TAKE AWAY this horrible red sprinkler, and refund my 50 Farm Cash. I encourage everyone else who feels the way Patios and I feel, to also request a refund.

umm then why is it that i had 6 days to harvest an irrigated 4 day crop if it supposedly speeds up the wasting time .......

[driverdave]

In the light of all the negative comments regarding the red sprinkler i feel that someone should put the case for it
i have the red sprinkler it works well instead of waiting 4 days for crops i can harvest them in 2 ......i can harvest flowers after half of the previous growing time i never have a problem with ppls watering the flowers as i placed a single plot of acorn squash on my flower farm (can be any crop) this allows the red sprinkler to work to speed up flowers that have been watered and avoids the 20 hr wait to irrigate the flowers.....as to speeding up the crop ripening rate you still have the original time to harvest and the normal time to waste (i.e a 4 day irrigated crop is ready for harvest in 2 days BUT will NOT go to waste until 8 days after it was originally planted) i have experimented with all crop timeframes and have never had a problem.... if you need to grow short time crops then its just a matter of planning ahead to achieve the result you need

[Taz D]

In the light of all the negative comments regarding the red sprinkler i feel that someone should put the case for it
i have the red sprinkler it works well instead of waiting 4 days for crops i can harvest them in 2 ......i can harvest flowers after half of the previous growing time i never have a problem with ppls watering the flowers as i placed a single plot of acorn squash on my flower farm (can be any crop) this allows the red sprinkler to work to speed up flowers that have been watered and avoids the 20 hr wait to irrigate the flowers.....as to speeding up the crop ripening rate you still have the original time to harvest and the normal time to waste (i.e a 4 day irrigated crop is ready for harvest in 2 days BUT will NOT go to waste until 8 days after it was originally planted) i have experimented with all crop timeframes and have never had a problem.... if you need to grow short time crops then its just a matter of planning ahead to achieve the result you need
I don't have either sprinkler as I don't do flowers. But one side effect I see of the red sprinkler that is effecting all crops, is that the wasted time is showing incorrectly for crops that have not had the time shortened by irrigation. I have a sugarcane crop that just became read to harvest. This is a 12 hour crop. Now it says wasted in 16.6 hours when it should say wasted in 12 hours. There are definately still some problems between the red sprinkler and the time changes they made in this release. The biggest problem is not knowing whether the time listed is correct or if the crop will be wasted when it should be.

[driverdave]

I don't have either sprinkler as I don't do flowers. But one side effect I see of the red sprinkler that is effecting all crops, is that the wasted time is showing incorrectly for crops that have not had the time shortened by irrigation. I have a sugarcane crop that just became read to harvest. This is a 12 hour crop. Now it says wasted in 16.6 hours when it should say wasted in 12 hours. There are definately still some problems between the red sprinkler and the time changes they made in this release. The biggest problem is not knowing whether the time listed is correct or if the crop will be wasted when it should be.

i wonder if that 16.6 hrs is realtime of farmtown time or did the devs add a percentage to all crops waste times ????? .........i do agree that the time situation needs to be rectified and i can see how for some people it would be a problem

i have just planted a single field of raspberry and it should be ready in 2 hrs i will report back on the waste time when it is ready to harvest

[Taz D]

i wonder if that 16.6 hrs is realtime of farmtown time or did the devs add a percentage to all crops waste times ????? .........i do agree that the time situation needs to be rectified and i can see how for some people it would be a problem
16 hours is 16 hours regardless how you look at it. The times are all more or less based on 24 hour clock. Thus a 2 day (FT clock) crop shows as ready in 1.6 days.

[Happy pants]

I've been noticing that a lot of my crops seem to have had a "grace period" added to the waste times. It seems to be fairly consistent throughout the crop selection, so I'm assuming the devs have added a little more time to help those of us who "just missed" the waste time due to whatever little crisis we're dealing with in real life that day. If it ain't broke, don't fix it; I like having a little more time to get to them. :)

[Caren Katsmom]

I can tell you absolutely that the Time to Waste clocks are completely wrong on crops that were irrigated with the infamous red sprinkler. I know this, because I just finished cleaning up a big mess of one day crops (layered) that went to waste while I was at work today.. and look wasted... but insisted (in the information bubble) that I still had 8 hours before they would go to waste.

If that's not enough of a problem... I also discovered that the apparently-wasted crops that look wasted.. but wasted too early, and the text bubble confirmed that fact... were in fact, NOT wasted! Well, at least they were not wasted when I used the 5 x 5 Combine on them. :eek: I got credit for all the crops I harvested in my storage, even though they were (supposedly) wasted. No other tool would work. The 5 x5 harvester and 1x harvester resulted in the (also) erroneous message "This (whatever crop) is not ready to harvest yet." :eek:

I have refreshed, reloaded, etc. and the harvested, apparently-wasted-too-early crops are indeed still credited in my storage.

We no longer have any idea when any crop will, in reality, go to waste. But if you own the 5 x 5 Combine.. well.. they won't be really wasted until (I assume) the time given in the messed-up Time to Waste clock is reached.

I used to think that only Zynga could create a mess like this. :rolleyes:

[JAS0643]

I don't have either sprinkler as I don't do flowers. But one side effect I see of the red sprinkler that is effecting all crops, is that the wasted time is showing incorrectly for crops that have not had the time shortened by irrigation. I have a sugarcane crop that just became read to harvest. This is a 12 hour crop. Now it says wasted in 16.6 hours when it should say wasted in 12 hours. There are definately still some problems between the red sprinkler and the time changes they made in this release. The biggest problem is not knowing whether the time listed is correct or if the crop will be wasted when it should be.

I think the 16 hours is right. We have always been told that crops go to waste in the same amount of time they take to grow but without a way to tell how long they have till they go to waste it is hard to say if that was really the case. We know more or less that was the case but how many people planted potatoes and waited 40 hours exactly to make sure that was the exact time they went to waste. While I am sure that someone somewhere probably did just that most of us didn't we just assumed that the potatoes would go to waste in 40 hours not 48 hours or what every it is for one day crops. I have planted raspberries before and thought **** it has been more than 4 hours since I planted them and expected to find wasted raspberries, but they where not wasted. I never really thought about it before except that maybe I was wrong about the time I planted them and was happy to find non wasted raspberries.

I've been noticing that a lot of my crops seem to have had a "grace period" added to the waste times. It seems to be fairly consistent throughout the crop selection, so I'm assuming the devs have added a little more time to help those of us who "just missed" the waste time due to whatever little crisis we're dealing with in real life that day. If it ain't broke, don't fix it; I like having a little more time to get to them. :)

I think you have hit the nail on the head here.


I can tell you absolutely that the Time to Waste clocks are completely wrong on crops that were irrigated with the infamous red sprinkler. I know this, because I just finished cleaning up a big mess of one day crops (layered) that went to waste while I was at work today.. and look wasted... but insisted (in the information bubble) that I still had 8 hours before they would go to waste.

If that's not enough of a problem... I also discovered that the apparently-wasted crops that look wasted.. but wasted too early, and the text bubble confirmed that fact... were in fact, NOT wasted! Well, at least they were not wasted when I used the 5 x 5 Combine on them. :eek: I got credit for all the crops I harvested in my storage, even though they were (supposedly) wasted. No other tool would work. The 5 x5 harvester and 1x harvester resulted in the (also) erroneous message "This (whatever crop) is not ready to harvest yet." :eek:

I have refreshed, reloaded, etc. and the harvested, apparently-wasted-too-early crops are indeed still credited in my storage.

We no longer have any idea when any crop will, in reality, go to waste. But if you own the 5 x 5 Combine.. well.. they won't be really wasted until (I assume) the time given in the messed-up Time to Waste clock is reached.

I used to think that only Zynga could create a mess like this. :rolleyes:


This is what I think is happening here. When the red sprinkler was released the extended waste time was not part of the plan. If you planted a one day crop and speed up the growth it would be ready in 10 hours and go to waste 20 hours + the extra hours they seem to have built in for one day crops. Then people complained about speeding up crops without wanting to because they can't use the brown sprinkler to water flowers, so the devs went in and lengthened the waste time to match the time it would be if you didn't water you flowers. I think either something went wrong here or they didn't change all the code when they did this change. While you still have the full time to harvest the crop the picture of a watered crop shows wasted when the time should be up without being extended. There seems to be some bugs in the red sprinkler and I am sure the developers are working to get them fixed asap.

[driverdave]

This is what I think is happening here. When the red sprinkler was released the extended waste time was not part of the plan. If you planted a one day crop and speed up the growth it would be ready in 10 hours and go to waste 20 hours + the extra hours they seem to have built in for one day crops. Then people complained about speeding up crops without wanting to because they can't use the brown sprinkler to water flowers, so the devs went in and lengthened the waste time to match the time it would be if you didn't water you flowers. I think either something went wrong here or they didn't change all the code when they did this change. While you still have the full time to harvest the crop the picture of a watered crop shows wasted when the time should be up without being extended. There seems to be some bugs in the red sprinkler and I am sure the developers are working to get them fixed asap.[/QUOTE]

i agree that the devs will be working on this.......but essentially what i have found thru planting a lot of crops is this

plant potatoes.......1 day crop 20hrs ......irrigate them reduces crop ripening to 10 hrs
now (and this is what people dont seem to grasp) the potatoes will not go to waste until at least 40 hrs from when they were planted (which is the normal 20 hrs growth period plus the normal 20hrs go to waste waiting time

i planted a 4 day crop (80hrs) and irrigated it thus meaning it was ready in 2 days (40hrs) when i rolled up 40 hrs later to harvest it it was saying 6 days to waste .....

[Kath-H]

in one of the newer facilities hon...for the guitar i think...any one else?

You harvest the cork trees with the chopping tools, then use cork in the fishing accessories facility.

[driverdave]

I don't have either sprinkler as I don't do flowers. But one side effect I see of the red sprinkler that is effecting all crops, is that the wasted time is showing incorrectly for crops that have not had the time shortened by irrigation. I have a sugarcane crop that just became read to harvest. This is a 12 hour crop. Now it says wasted in 16.6 hours when it should say wasted in 12 hours. There are definately still some problems between the red sprinkler and the time changes they made in this release. The biggest problem is not knowing whether the time listed is correct or if the crop will be wasted when it should be.

ok i planted that plot of raspberry it is now ready to harvest and says 2.7 hrs to waste so thats 162 minutes so we shall observe and see as i let this plot go to waste in the name of science lolol

you will note that the waste time is .7 of an hr longer than the growth time

[driverdave]

its only a single plot and the purpose of the exercise is to test the accuracy of the waste timer now 12 minutes later it is reading 2.5 hrs to waste so so far the timer is accurate

down to 1.7 hrs appearance still normal and time accurate

[HelenJS22]

its only a single plot and the purpose of the exercise is to test the accuracy of the waste timer now 12 minutes later it is reading 2.5 hrs to waste so so far the timer is accurate

down to 1.7 hrs appearance still normal and time accurate

LOL - love this and waiting on the results dave. I've found that I have tons of time to harvest crops that I have irrigated, without too much problem. I'm thinking that as with lots of little issues, they may be a bit random, and therefore more difficult to 'fix'.

[driverdave]

LOL - love this and waiting on the results dave. I've found that I have tons of time to harvest crops that I have irrigated, without too much problem. I'm thinking that as with lots of little issues, they may be a bit random, and therefore more difficult to 'fix'.

well we are down to 72 minutes and not looking wasted yet timer continues to be accurate as far as real time to waste timer ..it is just an empirical exercise to prove or disprove that the waste timer works and its accuracy

if the picture of the crop is going to change i am sort of expecting that to happen at 42 minutes to go

[HelenJS22]

well we are down to 72 minutes and not looking wasted yet timer continues to be accurate as far as real time to waste timer ..it is just an empirical exercise to prove or disprove that the waste timer works and its accuracy

if the picture of the crop is going to change i am sort of expecting that to happen at 42 minutes to go

Soooo - we could do with a science lab in Farm Town ?? :D

[driverdave]

Soooo - we could do with a science lab in Farm Town ?? :D

lol...no just
to change that which we can
to abide with that which we cannot
and the wisdom to know the difference.....

the study continues 60 minutes to go and all normal

never know if there is a difference and i can isolate it ...it might help the devs to fix it

[driverdave]

the reason i say i expect a change at 42 minutes is that 42 minutes is the ''extra '' time over and above the normal time to waste for that crop so we shall see what we shall see

ok at 40 minutes to go and still looking like a healthy raspberry field should
not disappointed that there was no change in appearance as the devs did say they were fixing that but we can conclude from this so far that the time to waste timer is accurate

Ok the plot just went to waste ....right on zero minutes and it was healthy looking right to the end ...the time to waste timer is accurate it said at the astart 2.7 hrs and 162 minutes later it went to waste no i know thereas mathematicians out there that can do the numbers
sugar cane said 16.6 hrs for taz
raspberry plot said 2.7 hrs for me

is there a mathematical link proportionate formaula in this ??????

[driverdave]

Ok to recap on the time to waste timer

i have over the last 5 hrs run a test on the time to waste clock and it is indeed accurate my methodology was as follow

plowed a single field on a non irrigated farm
planted 1 single plot of raspberry
it took 120 minutes (2hrs) to ripen
when it was ripe the time to waste started at 2.7 hrs(162 minutes)
i monitored it over the next 162 minutes (2.7 hrs)
there was no change in appearance untill the time to waste timer ran out
the field was unharvestable by any means
(and i have all the harvesters and the combine)

this was a true test carried out in a methodical fashion and the findings speak for themselves

1 . the time to waste timer is accurate
2. at least for raspberry there is no appearance change until the time to waste has run out
3. when it was showing wilted wasted plot it was not harvestable

[HelenJS22]

Ok to recap on the time to waste timer

i have over the last 5 hrs run a test on the time to waste clock and it is indeed accurate my methodology was as follow

plowed a single field on a non irrigated farm
planted 1 single plot of raspberry
it took 120 minutes (2hrs) to ripen
when it was ripe the time to waste started at 2.7 hrs(162 minutes)
i monitored it over the next 162 minutes (2.7 hrs)
there was no change in appearance untill the time to waste timer ran out
the field was unharvestable by any means
(and i have all the harvesters and the combine)

this was a true test carried out in a methodical fashion and the findings speak for themselves

1 . the time to waste timer is accurate
2. at least for raspberry there is no appearance change until the time to waste has run out
3. when it was showing wilted wasted plot it was not harvestable

I find the case to be proved !! Well done driverdave, and thank you :D

[driverdave]

I find the case to be proved !! Well done driverdave, and thank you :D

Thank you Helen it might settle the issue i wish i could do one like that for the red sprinkler but the opinions are so widely differing on that one.....i know it works and i think some of the people (no names mentioned or fingers pointed at any perosn here, but if the shoe fits ....wear it) are way too fussy and have overly high expectations

[HelenJS22]

Thank you Helen it might settle the issue i wish i could do one like that for the red sprinkler but the opinions are so widely differing on that one.....i know it works and i think some of the people (no names mentioned or fingers pointed at any perosn here, but if the shoe fits ....wear it) are way too fussy and have overly high expectations

I think it would be hard to put the red sprinkler to a sufficient test to satisfy everyone. You definitely need to have your wits about you a little more using the red one, but my poor scattered wits enjoy the challenge. I'm producing twice as many flowers for my flower shop, and I haven't lost a crop that I've irrigated ..... yet

[driverdave]

I think it would be hard to put the red sprinkler to a sufficient test to satisfy everyone. You definitely need to have your wits about you a little more using the red one, but my poor scattered wits enjoy the challenge. I'm producing twice as many flowers for my flower shop, and I haven't lost a crop that I've irrigated ..... yet

thats absolutely correct........ we need to be nice to the mods tonight they have their work cut out for them...theres one hell of a lot of spam / advertising and posts with links in that they are going tohave to weed out

[kosp41302]

I am lovin the updates-- haven't gotten the red sprinkler yet. is it a bad thing that i already know what i want to do with farm 12 and farm 13 when we get them?

lookin forwar to the next update which i am hoping will come by the 22nd that way i will have 5 days work free to mess with new goodies :)

[tnbskts]

Gosh, there are some rather condescending posts about the red sprinkler. Apparently all you need to do is to apply more thought and concentration than before, and change the way you farm, and move all your flowers onto one or two farms, and everything is fine or you're just a whiner.

Seriously - why, if people have paid for the brown sprinkler in the expectation that paying for it means actually having it available, should they not have it available? It doesn't stop other people adjusting their game-playing or reworking their farms or creating spreadsheets or applying more thought and wits in order to maximise the benefit of the red sprinkler if they want to. For people who want to have some flowers on every farm and keep it all simple, and who want to just be able to water them with a tool that cost them 45 FC, as well as doing their thing with their red sprinkler that also cost them 50 FC, why shouldn't they be able to?

[meh1]

I truly love this game and have had such good customer service when I have an issue I feel bad complaining.....but I'm a little ticked we can only use the red sprinkler once per day. For the price I think we should be able to use it more often.

[maggiel29]

In the light of all the negative comments regarding the red sprinkler i feel that someone should put the case for it
i have the red sprinkler it works well instead of waiting 4 days for crops i can harvest them in 2 ......i can harvest flowers after half of the previous growing time i never have a problem with ppls watering the flowers as i placed a single plot of acorn squash on my flower farm (can be any crop) this allows the red sprinkler to work to speed up flowers that have been watered and avoids the 20 hr wait to irrigate the flowers.....as to speeding up the crop ripening rate you still have the original time to harvest and the normal time to waste (i.e a 4 day irrigated crop is ready for harvest in 2 days BUT will NOT go to waste until 8 days after it was originally planted) i have experimented with all crop timeframes and have never had a problem.... if you need to grow short time crops then its just a matter of planning ahead to achieve the result you need

I agree I like mine - just takes a little planning - I had one glitch where a neighbour watered my flower/tree farm - no crops but part from that no problems. I WOULD like to be able to harvest my larger stables from the facility manager though!!!

[tricia g]

My twopennies worth " I love the red sprinkler "

[LoreneC]

My feedback on the sprinkler.

* I do not mind the every 20 hours, or per crop limitations.:)

* I do want the ability to use my brown sprinkler.;)

[charlies4ng3ls]

I agree I like mine - just takes a little planning - I had one glitch where a neighbour watered my flower/tree farm - no crops but part from that no problems. I WOULD like to be able to harvest my larger stables from the facility manager though!!!

If your neighbour waters your flower/tree farm - all you do is plow one square and put rasps in it - sprinkle and then delete the plow square :D Problem solved ...

[StoneFace]

My twopennies worth " I love the red sprinkler "

I like the Big Red too...... although

I find myself harvesting more..
My combine is proving to be even more of a great buy
The inventory count is going up and up
I can/could post more than the 2+ times I have been doing ... if I want to

:D


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[caligirl62]

Hi, not sure if anyone else is having this problem. My neighbour just watered my flowers; and i harvested them when they're ready. Now i want to water them with my red sprinkler to speed up growing time, but i;m told they can only be watered once a day. :confused: However this is what is posted in the Post Release Changes - Aug 30, 11:15PM EST:

When neighbor irrigate your farm, you can now use the red sprinkler right after that to double plants growth speed

so, i guess they didnt fix it!!!

u can only water FLOWERS ONCE A DAY PERIOD!!!!

[caligirl62]

love the new update! So far, the only thing i see that i don't care for is that although the cork oak trees are chopable, they don't turn into stumps when chopped like the other trees do. This makes planning the layout of my farm a bit difficult. Can this be changed please? I'd rather have all chopped trees turn to stumps!

Thanks.

i totally agree with u!!!!

[caligirl62]

does the red irrigator work on trees aswell?

i believe it does hon...not sure though...

[caligirl62]

the reason the red sprinkler does not work on crops less then 2d...is because it is for ONCE A DAY...which means the 1d crops would b ready in 12hours....which in turn is TWICE a day...the 8h crops could b planted three times a day...

[al_bundy]

i believe it does hon...not sure though...

It only does crops and flowers :)

[maggiel29]

If your neighbour waters your flower/tree farm - all you do is plow one square and put rasps in it - sprinkle and then delete the plow square :D Problem solved ...

I have flowers or trees on EVERY single plot! I suppose I could delete a few of them tho if it happens again - thanks

[driverdave]

Your test proved that crops NOT irrigated with the red sprinkler have accurate Time to Waste clocks, which include an added amount of time beyond what was expected. The Combine didn't work for you because you attempted to harvest a raspberry crop that was, in fact, gone to waste. Your test did NOT prove anything regarding crops that were irrigated with the red sprinkler... or anything regarding crops there weren't irrigated with the red sprinkler, but on farms owned by a player with the red sprinkler in storage.

I have experienced that crops irrigated with the red sprinkler have INACCURATE Time to Waste clocks. I have screenshots of my seemingly-wasted crops, with the Time to Waste bubbles displaying that I had about 8 hours to go before they would go to waste. I absolutely harvested these "in limbo" irrigated crops with the Combine, while they looked wasted, and got to keep the harvested crops.

Let's keep the information we provide to the developers accurate.. especially when we label our experiments as scientific.

firstly ....i own a red sprinkler and it is in my storage the experiment was WHOLLY to test the accuracy of the gone to waste timer...nothing to with irrigation and my reported results ARE accurate the data on the appearance of the crop was merely a sidebar to the main issue BUT that experiment sets the benchmarks for another one using irrigation........... however if you take the trouble to follow the post back i was in actual fact answering a post from Taz.....Taz had a sugarcane crop that was not irrigated and it was showing 16.6 hrs to waste and that seemed to be out of whack .....so i tested to see if the time to waste timer was accurate....if you read the post properly i do specify an unirrigated plot...however i will now do an irrigated one just to settle this one way or the other

[driverdave]

Ok Experiment 2
this is ti test the crop appearance and waste timer accuracy in an IRRIGATED crop

plowed a fresh single plot on farm 11 planted raspberry on it and irrigated it
my local time now 3.55pm rasp showing 59 mins to ready
my local tme now 4.55pm rasp ripe and showing 3.7 hrs (222 mins) to waste
my local time now 5.13pm rasp still showing ripe and timer showing 3.4 hrs (204 mins) to waste time accurate in terms of displayed time to waste vs actual minutes at this point
ok its 6.37 pm and the rasp stilll lookin good showing 2 hrs to wasted so far timer accurate vs actual time
now down to .9 of an hr (54 minutes) raspberry plot still looking healthy timer still accurate

OK WE HAVE A PROBLEM ....AT 33 MINUTES TO WASTED IT IS SHOWING AS WILTED
looks like we have proven there is a problem Caren Katsmom was right and now it has been replicated and verified so over to the devs for a fix
mods pls pass to devs

[Majik Merlin]

It's here:

http://www.slashkey.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3881822#post3881822

Thanks much..appreciate th help

[Scarlett128]

the reason the red sprinkler does not work on crops less then 2d...is because it is for ONCE A DAY...which means the 1d crops would b ready in 12hours....which in turn is TWICE a day...the 8h crops could b planted three times a day...

Who said the Red Sprinkler does not work on crops less than 2 days? It absolutely does work on every crop, regardless of the harvest time! You are correct that the Red Sprinkler can be used only ONCE each day on EACH farm; however, I have planted 8 hr. crops, as well as 12 hour crops, and irrigated each with the Red Sprinkler in order to afford myself the flexibility of harvesting at my convenience at anytime between 4 and 16 hours after planting for the 8 hour crops and at anytime between 6 and 24 hours after planting for the 12 hour crops. Sure, if you harvest at 4 hours and plant another crop immediately, you won't be able to irrigate that crop until the next day, arguably as early as 16 or as late as 20 hours, until a final determination has been made as to what constitutes a "day" in Farm Town. But consider this: If you plant a 4-day crop, which I believe is still an 80 hour crop, and irrigate it 16 hours after planting, it will be ready to harvest in 32 hours from time of irrigation. If you must wait 20 hours to irrigate that same crop, it will be ready for harvest 30 hours from time of irrigation. In either case, you will be able to harvest, plow, plant and irrigate immediately whatever crop you choose.

All of the complaints about the Red Sprinkler are much ado about nothing! It works beautifully if you take the time to understand how it works and how it can benefit you, and plan accordingly. Just because you may be unable to grasp the concept completely is no reason to attack either the Developers or those who take the time to explain and try to help you understand what this wonderful tool can do for you. Is it perfect? No, of course not. Do I wish I could still use my brown sprinkler the way it worked before we got the Red one? Sure, but 50% of the time, the Brown Sprinkler DOES work the way it did before--when I water for my friends and neighbors--and, Dear Hearts, 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing!

Come on Guys, this is a game! Not life or death. Try to enjoy it instead of making yourself and others around you miserable with your complaints. Look at this as a challenge to your creativity. If the Red Sprinkler does not work to your satisfaction, then try to figure out a way to MAKE it work for you rather than against you. And, by the way, for those of you who still layer crops on your farms and seem to be having serious problems with the performance of the Red Sprinkler with respect to harvest times for those layered crops, just remember that this game was not designed for layered crops--you do that at your own risk and with the understanding that there is a distinct possibility that it may corrupt your farms at any time. The Developers are not obligated to provide you with a tool that works with an unsupported and unsanctioned aspect of this game.

You may think this is a simple little game, and that all of your wishes and desires should be just as simple to provide, but if you know anything at all about programming, you will recognize that it has a very sophisticated and complex foundation that the Developers are building upon constantly. It is still the Beta version, which means we are all guinea pigs--testers, if you prefer--and the Developers are relying upon our constructive feedback to help them make it better and more enjoyable for everyone. It would serve us all well to be mindful of this and to be more respectful in our treatment of the Developers and in our suggestions for improvements. A belligerent, defiant, demanding tone is uncalled for and counter-productive.

No one twisted our arms or forced us to pay real cash for the Farm Cash we need in order to buy the premium items. There are many who take great pride and pleasure in playing this game without ever spending one dime for additional Farm Cash. My sister is one of those people, and she is as happy as a pig in sunshine! :-) If you feel you can't be happy without the expensive toys, don't be an early adopter and risk disappointment in the way they perform. Wait until others have bought and used them for awhile and then read the reviews and make an informed decision as to whether your hard-earned Farm Cash will be money well spent.

The foregoing comments are solely my opinions and in no way are intended to reflect or convey the opinions of the Moderators and/or Developers. They will just have to speak for themselves! :-)

Let's farm!

[driverdave]

who said the red sprinkler does not work on crops less than 2 days? It absolutely does work on every crop, regardless of the harvest time! You are correct that the red sprinkler can be used only once each day on each farm; however, i have planted 8 hr. Crops, as well as 12 hour crops, and irrigated each with the red sprinkler in order to afford myself the flexibility of harvesting at my convenience at anytime between 4 and 16 hours after planting for the 8 hour crops and at anytime between 6 and 24 hours after planting for the 12 hour crops. Sure, if you harvest at 4 hours and plant another crop immediately, you won't be able to irrigate that crop until the next day, arguably as early as 16 or as late as 20 hours, until a final determination has been made as to what constitutes a "day" in farm town. But consider this: If you plant a 4-day crop, which i believe is still an 80 hour crop, and irrigate it 16 hours after planting, it will be ready to harvest in 32 hours from time of irrigation. If you must wait 20 hours to irrigate that same crop, it will be ready for harvest 30 hours from time of irrigation. In either case, you will be able to harvest, plow, plant and irrigate immediately whatever crop you choose.

All of the complaints about the red sprinkler are much ado about nothing! It works beautifully if you take the time to understand how it works and how it can benefit you, and plan accordingly. Just because you may be unable to grasp the concept completely is no reason to attack either the developers or those who take the time to explain and try to help you understand what this wonderful tool can do for you. Is it perfect? No, of course not. Do i wish i could still use my brown sprinkler the way it worked before we got the red one? Sure, but 50% of the time, the brown sprinkler does work the way it did before--when i water for my friends and neighbors--and, dear hearts, 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing!

Come on guys, this is a game! Not life or death. Try to enjoy it instead of making yourself and others around you miserable with your complaints. Look at this as a challenge to your creativity. If the red sprinkler does not work to your satisfaction, then try to figure out a way to make it work for you rather than against you. And, by the way, for those of you who still layer crops on your farms and seem to be having serious problems with the performance of the red sprinkler with respect to harvest times for those layered crops, just remember that this game was not designed for layered crops--you do that at your own risk and with the understanding that there is a distinct possibility that it may corrupt your farms at any time. The developers are not obligated to provide you with a tool that works with an unsupported and unsanctioned aspect of this game.

You may think this is a simple little game, and that all of your wishes and desires should be just as simple to provide, but if you know anything at all about programming, you will recognize that it has a very sophisticated and complex foundation that the developers are building upon constantly. It is still the beta version, which means we are all guinea pigs--testers, if you prefer--and the developers are relying upon our constructive feedback to help them make it better and more enjoyable for everyone. It would serve us all well to be mindful of this and to be more respectful in our treatment of the developers and in our suggestions for improvements. A belligerent, defiant, demanding tone is uncalled for and counter-productive.

No one twisted our arms or forced us to pay real cash for the farm cash we need in order to buy the premium items. There are many who take great pride and pleasure in playing this game without ever spending one dime for additional farm cash. My sister is one of those people, and she is as happy as a pig in sunshine! :-) if you feel you can't be happy without the expensive toys, don't be an early adopter and risk disappointment in the way they perform. Wait until others have bought and used them for awhile and then read the reviews and make an informed decision as to whether your hard-earned farm cash will be money well spent.

The foregoing comments are solely my opinions and in no way are intended to reflect or convey the opinions of the moderators and/or developers. They will just have to speak for themselves! :-)

let's farm!

hear hear........well thought out and very well said

[Deborah1979]

:mad: I hope I can state this clearly. First, I DO NOT own the red sprinkler, but had a huge glitch with my flowers a few minutes ago. Went to my first farm and my flowers were withered. (expected) So, I watered them, and a bubble appeared that said 1 minute to harvest and both the F & W showed in the bubble. I really didn't think the flowers would be ready until tomorrow, but hey, I lose track of time. I proceeded to one of my other farms and harvested trees, came back to Farm #1 and the flowers bubble said "Ready to Harvest". I proceeded to harvest with no problem, went to one of my other farms to harvest & chop more trees. Took a short break, logged out, came back on to Farm #1 and the flower bubble now states "11.2 hours to harvest"! :eek::eek: I have several gerber daisies and zinnias that I harvest & just sold all of them yesterday, so in theory the ones that I just harvested should have been in my storage. Right?? Well, they are not, so I know I just harvested ghost flowers and I used my flower harvester, so I am now out at least 150 gallons of fuel!:mad::mad: It appears that there is an obvious glitch with both the bubble showing harvest time, and with the fact that I was actually able to harvest the flowers. If you go to my farm right now, it is quite obvious the flowers are not ready, but they showed full growth a few minutes ago.
Sorry for the length of this. Mods, please pass this along to the devs!!??

[meh1]

Who said the Red Sprinkler does not work on crops less than 2 days? It absolutely does work on every crop, regardless of the harvest time! You are correct that the Red Sprinkler can be used only ONCE each day on EACH farm; however, I have planted 8 hr. crops, as well as 12 hour crops, and irrigated each with the Red Sprinkler in order to afford myself the flexibility of harvesting at my convenience at anytime between 4 and 16 hours after planting for the 8 hour crops and at anytime between 6 and 24 hours after planting for the 12 hour crops. Sure, if you harvest at 4 hours and plant another crop immediately, you won't be able to irrigate that crop until the next day, arguably as early as 16 or as late as 20 hours, until a final determination has been made as to what constitutes a "day" in Farm Town. But consider this: If you plant a 4-day crop, which I believe is still an 80 hour crop, and irrigate it 16 hours after planting, it will be ready to harvest in 32 hours from time of irrigation. If you must wait 20 hours to irrigate that same crop, it will be ready for harvest 30 hours from time of irrigation. In either case, you will be able to harvest, plow, plant and irrigate immediately whatever crop you choose.

All of the complaints about the Red Sprinkler are much ado about nothing! It works beautifully if you take the time to understand how it works and how it can benefit you, and plan accordingly. Just because you may be unable to grasp the concept completely is no reason to attack either the Developers or those who take the time to explain and try to help you understand what this wonderful tool can do for you. Is it perfect? No, of course not. Do I wish I could still use my brown sprinkler the way it worked before we got the Red one? Sure, but 50% of the time, the Brown Sprinkler DOES work the way it did before--when I water for my friends and neighbors--and, Dear Hearts, 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing!

Come on Guys, this is a game! Not life or death. Try to enjoy it instead of making yourself and others around you miserable with your complaints. Look at this as a challenge to your creativity. If the Red Sprinkler does not work to your satisfaction, then try to figure out a way to MAKE it work for you rather than against you. And, by the way, for those of you who still layer crops on your farms and seem to be having serious problems with the performance of the Red Sprinkler with respect to harvest times for those layered crops, just remember that this game was not designed for layered crops--you do that at your own risk and with the understanding that there is a distinct possibility that it may corrupt your farms at any time. The Developers are not obligated to provide you with a tool that works with an unsupported and unsanctioned aspect of this game.

You may think this is a simple little game, and that all of your wishes and desires should be just as simple to provide, but if you know anything at all about programming, you will recognize that it has a very sophisticated and complex foundation that the Developers are building upon constantly. It is still the Beta version, which means we are all guinea pigs--testers, if you prefer--and the Developers are relying upon our constructive feedback to help them make it better and more enjoyable for everyone. It would serve us all well to be mindful of this and to be more respectful in our treatment of the Developers and in our suggestions for improvements. A belligerent, defiant, demanding tone is uncalled for and counter-productive.

No one twisted our arms or forced us to pay real cash for the Farm Cash we need in order to buy the premium items. There are many who take great pride and pleasure in playing this game without ever spending one dime for additional Farm Cash. My sister is one of those people, and she is as happy as a pig in sunshine! :-) If you feel you can't be happy without the expensive toys, don't be an early adopter and risk disappointment in the way they perform. Wait until others have bought and used them for awhile and then read the reviews and make an informed decision as to whether your hard-earned Farm Cash will be money well spent.

The foregoing comments are solely my opinions and in no way are intended to reflect or convey the opinions of the Moderators and/or Developers. They will just have to speak for themselves! :-)

Let's farm!

You know, I'm really tired of people jumping on those of us who don't love every aspect 100% and take time to leave that feedback. I think these developers are great, the customer service is great and the mod's response time is the best I've ever seen. But if I want to think that for the money I'd like to be able to use the red sprinkler more than once a day, then I have the right to think that without people coming along acting like I DON'T have that right.

If they only wanted positive feedback, they'd delete everything that isn't positive. But they want all feedback and if you don't like it when people have a complaint, then don't read them. I am really tired of posts like this chastising other people for having an opinion.

[tnbskts]

Who said the Red Sprinkler does not work on crops less than 2 days?

I don't think people are saying it doesn't work, they're just saying it isn't the optimal use of the red sprinkler since you can't speed up a short-term crop and then go back and immediately speed up a longer one.


All of the complaints about the Red Sprinkler are much ado about nothing! It works beautifully if you take the time to understand how it works and how it can benefit you, and plan accordingly.They obviously aren't much ado about nothing because we have some very experienced players reporting that the loss of the brown sprinkler is causing problems for them. They paid significant FC for that tool, and the best way to fix these problems is, rather than expecting them to rethink and rearrange and redo, to just give the brown sprinkler back. The other problems with the red sprinkler seem to just be bugs that'll be worked out. Regarding the issue of wanting the red sprinkler to work more than once a day, that seems to go back to the fact that the in-game description of the red sprinkler didn't mention that it was a once-a-day machine, although I suppose that could be inferred since the other sprinklers also are. Then again, this is the only sprinkler that works on crops as well as flowers so we're in somewhat uncharted territory here.

Come on Guys, this is a game! Not life or death. Try to enjoy it instead of making yourself and others around you miserable with your complaints. Look at this as a challenge to your creativity. If the Red Sprinkler does not work to your satisfaction, then try to figure out a way to MAKE it work for you rather than against you.Which seems to involve, reading what some players are reporting, moving most of your flowers to just one or two farms and keeping track of when you last watered and goodness knows what else. Why should people have to do that? As you said, it's a game; people shouldn't have to jump through hoops and rework their farms and their play schedule to do something they were doing quite easily before. Some people don't find flowers all that important, but it isn't really fair for them to tell those who do that they shouldn't either. There has to be a way the devs can work things so the brown sprinkler can be used on its own to water flowers without speeding anything, and for the red sprinkler to also be used to speed crops and flowers as needed. It ought to be possible to adjust the red sprinkler so it doesn't alter the remaining time for flowers watered by the brown sprinkler within the last 20 hours. That's the only adjustment they'd need in order for us to have both available, unless I'm missing something. Or, as I think I suggested in another post, to have the red sprinkler configured so players can choose to include or exclude flowers when using it.

You may think this is a simple little game, and that all of your wishes and desires should be just as simple to provide, but if you know anything at all about programming, you will recognize that it has a very sophisticated and complex foundation that the Developers are building upon constantly. I think people are aware of that. Presumably if a requested fix is too problematic or has undesirable side effects, the devs just need to tell us that, sorry, it can't be done because {insert layman's explanation}. However, these are feedback forums, and part of the point of feedback is for people to let the devs know if a new development is causing problems. This new development seems to be causing a lot of problems, and it isn't inappropriate for players to explain the problems and see what solutions are available (hopefully other than "just change the way you play and it'll be fine").

[tnbskts]

:mad: I hope I can state this clearly. First, I DO NOT own the red sprinkler, but had a huge glitch with my flowers a few minutes ago. Went to my first farm and my flowers were withered. (expected) So, I watered them, and a bubble appeared that said 1 minute to harvest and both the F & W showed in the bubble. I really didn't think the flowers would be ready until tomorrow, but hey, I lose track of time. I proceeded to one of my other farms and harvested trees, came back to Farm #1 and the flowers bubble said "Ready to Harvest". I proceeded to harvest with no problem, went to one of my other farms to harvest & chop more trees. Took a short break, logged out, came back on to Farm #1 and the flower bubble now states "11.2 hours to harvest"! :eek::eek: I have several gerber daisies and zinnias that I harvest & just sold all of them yesterday, so in theory the ones that I just harvested should have been in my storage. Right?? Well, they are not, so I know I just harvested ghost flowers and I used my flower harvester, so I am now out at least 150 gallons of fuel!:mad::mad: It appears that there is an obvious glitch with both the bubble showing harvest time, and with the fact that I was actually able to harvest the flowers. If you go to my farm right now, it is quite obvious the flowers are not ready, but they showed full growth a few minutes ago.
Sorry for the length of this. Mods, please pass this along to the devs!!??

I watered some flowers yesterday with the watering can, and they came back showing fully grown when I knew they weren't. Thing is, the issue of flowers appearing fully grown after watering is on the list of problems that have been fixed, but it doesn't seem to have been. This has happened to me a couple of times over the last few days, but most of the time it doesn't happen, so the fault still seems to be there but is intermittent.

[Deborah1979]

I don't think people are saying it doesn't work, they're just saying it isn't the optimal use of the red sprinkler since you can't speed up a short-term crop and then go back and immediately speed up a longer one.


They obviously aren't much ado about nothing because we have some very experienced players reporting that the loss of the brown sprinkler is causing problems for them. They paid significant FC for that tool, and the best way to fix these problems is, rather than expecting them to rethink and rearrange and redo, to just give the brown sprinkler back. The other problems with the red sprinkler seem to just be bugs that'll be worked out. Regarding the issue of wanting the red sprinkler to work more than once a day, that seems to go back to the fact that the in-game description of the red sprinkler didn't mention that it was a once-a-day machine, although I suppose that could be inferred since the other sprinklers also are. Then again, this is the only sprinkler that works on crops as well as flowers so we're in somewhat uncharted territory here.

Which seems to involve, reading what some players are reporting, moving most of your flowers to just one or two farms and keeping track of when you last watered and goodness knows what else. Why should people have to do that? As you said, it's a game; people shouldn't have to jump through hoops and rework their farms and their play schedule to do something they were doing quite easily before. Some people don't find flowers all that important, but it isn't really fair for them to tell those who do that they shouldn't either. There has to be a way the devs can work things so the brown sprinkler can be used on its own to water flowers without speeding anything, and for the red sprinkler to also be used to speed crops and flowers as needed. It ought to be possible to adjust the red sprinkler so it doesn't alter the remaining time for flowers watered by the brown sprinkler within the last 20 hours. That's the only adjustment they'd need in order for us to have both available, unless I'm missing something. Or, as I think I suggested in another post, to have the red sprinkler configured so players can choose to include or exclude flowers when using it.

I think people are aware of that. Presumably if a requested fix is too problematic or has undesirable side effects, the devs just need to tell us that, sorry, it can't be done because {insert layman's explanation}. However, these are feedback forums, and part of the point of feedback is for people to let the devs know if a new development is causing problems. This new development seems to be causing a lot of problems, and it isn't inappropriate for players to explain the problems and see what solutions are available (hopefully other than "just change the way you play and it'll be fine").

:D:D:D:D:D
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! You addressed these issues in a very non-confrontational way, and I do so appreciate your comments. The issues with the red sprinkler are not being addressed as quickly as the fiasco with the "belts & bonuses" was, and I do wish either the mods or devs would let us know something.....and soon!! I am very hesitant to spend that much FC on something that doesn't work quite like I expected it to from the original wording on the update.
Thanks for the comments.

[tnbskts]

I think partly why nothing has happened yet is that a fix is more complicated than for the belts and bonuses because you have several things that these sprinklers do. I assume the belts and bonuses thing just required flipping a few switches from "yes" to "no" in the code. Plus in this case there are also some actual bugs in the system, which I'm sure have priority.

Also, there may be an element of just waiting to see if the problems are the usual resistance to something new and will die away as people get used to it. There seems to be more going on than that, and hopefully by now it'll be clear that some people are genuinely having problems with the way the red sprinkler is set up. But then, seeing as this is Farm Town and not certain other games, I'm sure the devs will do their best to try and sort things out one way or another.

[Deborah1979]

I watered some flowers yesterday with the watering can, and they came back showing fully grown when I knew they weren't. Thing is, the issue of flowers appearing fully grown after watering is on the list of problems that have been fixed, but it doesn't seem to have been. This has happened to me a couple of times over the last few days, but most of the time it doesn't happen, so the fault still seems to be there but is intermittent.

:) Thanks for posting this response! I was beginning to think that maybe I was having a brain spasm! Would you mind posting your info under the Help & Support area?? There is a thread called "Flowers..watering sprinkler...etc." and that is where I also posted my glitch. Tiger responded that they (mods) had not had this problem reported before and I should let them know if it happened again. More than one person reporting this would certainly be helpful. It will be at least 5 days before I know if the glitch will occur again, since flowers take 4 days to grow.
Thanks for letting me know I am not the only one!! :)

[Tiger]

RE: Red Sprinkler Issues

This is just to inform all of you that the developers are aware of the current issues with the red sprinkler and waste times. We apologise that this issue is taking some time to correct, and ask you to be patient while we wait for a fix.

Friendly warning: One detailed post per person is sufficient to make your opinions/concerns on issues on this subject well known. Please do not be tempted to repeatedly "spam" the thread. Those post will be deleted without notice.

[tnbskts]

:) Thanks for posting this response! I was beginning to think that maybe I was having a brain spasm! Would you mind posting your info under the Help & Support area?? There is a thread called "Flowers..watering sprinkler...etc." and that is where I also posted my glitch. Tiger responded that they (mods) had not had this problem reported before and I should let them know if it happened again. More than one person reporting this would certainly be helpful. It will be at least 5 days before I know if the glitch will occur again, since flowers take 4 days to grow.
Thanks for letting me know I am not the only one!! :)


Yep, done. Far as I know it only happens when reviving dead flowers but I'm not sure if it happens every time I try to do it.

[Deborah1979]

RE: Red Sprinkler Issues

This is just to inform all of you that the developers are aware of the current issues with the red sprinkler and waste times. We apologise that this issue is taking some time to correct, and ask you to be patient while we wait for a fix.

Friendly warning: One detailed post per person is sufficient to make your opinions/concerns on issues on this subject well known. Please do not be tempted to repeatedly "spam" the thread. Those post will be deleted without notice.

:) Thanks so much, Tiger, for acknowledging the posts, pros & cons, that have been posted about the red sprinkler. This is the first response I am aware of that the devs are actually aware of & looking at the perceived problems & objections!
THANK YOU MODS for passing along the good & the bad!!
THE BEST GAME EVER, EVEN WITH OCCASIONAL GLITCHES!! (Aren't we wonderful test subjects??!!:eek::eek:)

[Deborah1979]

Yep, done. Far as I know it only happens when reviving dead flowers but I'm not sure if it happens every time I try to do it.

Yeah, that would be my opinion, too, because if the flowers are ready, I DON'T water until after harvesting, or until they are completely dry! :)
Thanks for posting in the other thread. Will try to leave an update in 4 or 5 days when I harvest flowers again.

[HelenJS22]

Who said the Red Sprinkler does not work on crops less than 2 days? It absolutely does work on every crop, regardless of the harvest time! You are correct that the Red Sprinkler can be used only ONCE each day on EACH farm; however, I have planted 8 hr. crops, as well as 12 hour crops, and irrigated each with the Red Sprinkler in order to afford myself the flexibility of harvesting at my convenience at anytime between 4 and 16 hours after planting for the 8 hour crops and at anytime between 6 and 24 hours after planting for the 12 hour crops. Sure, if you harvest at 4 hours and plant another crop immediately, you won't be able to irrigate that crop until the next day, arguably as early as 16 or as late as 20 hours, until a final determination has been made as to what constitutes a "day" in Farm Town. But consider this: If you plant a 4-day crop, which I believe is still an 80 hour crop, and irrigate it 16 hours after planting, it will be ready to harvest in 32 hours from time of irrigation. If you must wait 20 hours to irrigate that same crop, it will be ready for harvest 30 hours from time of irrigation. In either case, you will be able to harvest, plow, plant and irrigate immediately whatever crop you choose.

All of the complaints about the Red Sprinkler are much ado about nothing! It works beautifully if you take the time to understand how it works and how it can benefit you, and plan accordingly. Just because you may be unable to grasp the concept completely is no reason to attack either the Developers or those who take the time to explain and try to help you understand what this wonderful tool can do for you. Is it perfect? No, of course not. Do I wish I could still use my brown sprinkler the way it worked before we got the Red one? Sure, but 50% of the time, the Brown Sprinkler DOES work the way it did before--when I water for my friends and neighbors--and, Dear Hearts, 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing!

Come on Guys, this is a game! Not life or death. Try to enjoy it instead of making yourself and others around you miserable with your complaints. Look at this as a challenge to your creativity. If the Red Sprinkler does not work to your satisfaction, then try to figure out a way to MAKE it work for you rather than against you. And, by the way, for those of you who still layer crops on your farms and seem to be having serious problems with the performance of the Red Sprinkler with respect to harvest times for those layered crops, just remember that this game was not designed for layered crops--you do that at your own risk and with the understanding that there is a distinct possibility that it may corrupt your farms at any time. The Developers are not obligated to provide you with a tool that works with an unsupported and unsanctioned aspect of this game.

You may think this is a simple little game, and that all of your wishes and desires should be just as simple to provide, but if you know anything at all about programming, you will recognize that it has a very sophisticated and complex foundation that the Developers are building upon constantly. It is still the Beta version, which means we are all guinea pigs--testers, if you prefer--and the Developers are relying upon our constructive feedback to help them make it better and more enjoyable for everyone. It would serve us all well to be mindful of this and to be more respectful in our treatment of the Developers and in our suggestions for improvements. A belligerent, defiant, demanding tone is uncalled for and counter-productive.

No one twisted our arms or forced us to pay real cash for the Farm Cash we need in order to buy the premium items. There are many who take great pride and pleasure in playing this game without ever spending one dime for additional Farm Cash. My sister is one of those people, and she is as happy as a pig in sunshine! :-) If you feel you can't be happy without the expensive toys, don't be an early adopter and risk disappointment in the way they perform. Wait until others have bought and used them for awhile and then read the reviews and make an informed decision as to whether your hard-earned Farm Cash will be money well spent.

The foregoing comments are solely my opinions and in no way are intended to reflect or convey the opinions of the Moderators and/or Developers. They will just have to speak for themselves! :-)

Let's farm!

I want a 'LIKE' button. Totally agree with this.

[Raine Logan]

Who said the Red Sprinkler does not work on crops less than 2 days? It absolutely does work on every crop, regardless of the harvest time! You are correct that the Red Sprinkler can be used only ONCE each day on EACH farm; however, I have planted 8 hr. crops, as well as 12 hour crops, and irrigated each with the Red Sprinkler in order to afford myself the flexibility of harvesting at my convenience at anytime between 4 and 16 hours after planting for the 8 hour crops and at anytime between 6 and 24 hours after planting for the 12 hour crops. Sure, if you harvest at 4 hours and plant another crop immediately, you won't be able to irrigate that crop until the next day, arguably as early as 16 or as late as 20 hours, until a final determination has been made as to what constitutes a "day" in Farm Town. But consider this: If you plant a 4-day crop, which I believe is still an 80 hour crop, and irrigate it 16 hours after planting, it will be ready to harvest in 32 hours from time of irrigation. If you must wait 20 hours to irrigate that same crop, it will be ready for harvest 30 hours from time of irrigation. In either case, you will be able to harvest, plow, plant and irrigate immediately whatever crop you choose.

All of the complaints about the Red Sprinkler are much ado about nothing! It works beautifully if you take the time to understand how it works and how it can benefit you, and plan accordingly. Just because you may be unable to grasp the concept completely is no reason to attack either the Developers or those who take the time to explain and try to help you understand what this wonderful tool can do for you. Is it perfect? No, of course not. Do I wish I could still use my brown sprinkler the way it worked before we got the Red one? Sure, but 50% of the time, the Brown Sprinkler DOES work the way it did before--when I water for my friends and neighbors--and, Dear Hearts, 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing!

Come on Guys, this is a game! Not life or death. Try to enjoy it instead of making yourself and others around you miserable with your complaints. Look at this as a challenge to your creativity. If the Red Sprinkler does not work to your satisfaction, then try to figure out a way to MAKE it work for you rather than against you. And, by the way, for those of you who still layer crops on your farms and seem to be having serious problems with the performance of the Red Sprinkler with respect to harvest times for those layered crops, just remember that this game was not designed for layered crops--you do that at your own risk and with the understanding that there is a distinct possibility that it may corrupt your farms at any time. The Developers are not obligated to provide you with a tool that works with an unsupported and unsanctioned aspect of this game.

You may think this is a simple little game, and that all of your wishes and desires should be just as simple to provide, but if you know anything at all about programming, you will recognize that it has a very sophisticated and complex foundation that the Developers are building upon constantly. It is still the Beta version, which means we are all guinea pigs--testers, if you prefer--and the Developers are relying upon our constructive feedback to help them make it better and more enjoyable for everyone. It would serve us all well to be mindful of this and to be more respectful in our treatment of the Developers and in our suggestions for improvements. A belligerent, defiant, demanding tone is uncalled for and counter-productive.

No one twisted our arms or forced us to pay real cash for the Farm Cash we need in order to buy the premium items. There are many who take great pride and pleasure in playing this game without ever spending one dime for additional Farm Cash. My sister is one of those people, and she is as happy as a pig in sunshine! :-) If you feel you can't be happy without the expensive toys, don't be an early adopter and risk disappointment in the way they perform. Wait until others have bought and used them for awhile and then read the reviews and make an informed decision as to whether your hard-earned Farm Cash will be money well spent.

The foregoing comments are solely my opinions and in no way are intended to reflect or convey the opinions of the Moderators and/or Developers. They will just have to speak for themselves! :-)

Let's farm!

now that i've figured it out the red sprinkler works fine for me because it suits my style of play - it's by far and away my favourite tool to date.

that said we don't all play the game the same way and if others have issues, concerns or complaints about it then they most certainly do have the right to, and should, air them. a lot of the positive changes we've had in this game stem from complaints and feedback so good on those who make the effort either way.

[driverdave]

now that i've figured it out the red sprinkler works fine for me because it suits my style of play - it's by far and away my favourite tool to date.

that said we don't all play the game the same way and if others have issues, concerns or complaints about it then they most certainly do have the right to, and should, air them. a lot of the positive changes we've had in this game stem from complaints and feedback so good on those who make the effort either way.

with respect...i think what Scarlett was getting at was the mode or tone of the words used by people and i agree with her on that ...and in the final analysis what good does it do to a person to be all het up and frustrated it only causes blood pressure to go up and posts written whilst in that situation can be prone to '' not supplying enough information to enable the mods or devs to figure out what is REALLY wrong

[StoneFace]

now that i've figured it out the red sprinkler works fine for me because it suits my style of play - it's by far and away my favourite tool to date.

that said we don't all play the game the same way and if others have issues, concerns or complaints about it then they most certainly do have the right to, and should, air them. a lot of the positive changes we've had in this game stem from complaints and feedback so good on those who make the effort either way.

I agree, that once the advantages of having Big Red are understood, it can be a fun tool.... and I would rank it right up there close to the Big Combine and all the one-click tools for restocking the facilities.

For example, this morning... 7:30am, I planted all one-day crops... and then Big-Reded them. The will be ready after dinner tonight, at which time I will plant the 8 and 12 hour stuff I need. Those items will not be able to be watered, but they will mature overnight on their own fertilized schedule and be ready in the morning. At that time I will probably plant 2 & 3 day crops and the Big Red will have passed the 20hour wait period, so all those times will be halved......

the tool works just fine. And if it is used just with crops in mind, and is used at least once every three days or less.... the flower problem is a mute point I would think, because they will be watered on the crop cycle, not the other way around.


;)

[tnbskts]

with respect...i think what Scarlett was getting at was the mode or tone of the words used by people and i agree with her on that ...and in the final analysis what good does it do to a person to be all het up and frustrated it only causes blood pressure to go up and posts written whilst in that situation can be prone to '' not supplying enough information to enable the mods or devs to figure out what is REALLY wrong

Also with respect...there's been some quite unwarranted condescension on the part of some of the people who like the current situation toward people who are having problems with it. Nobody enjoys the sort of "just try using a bit of intelligence and you'll find it'll be fine" put-downs that we've been seeing, or being told to simply change the way they play the game and stop complaining, even though they were doing their complaining in a feedback thread, which is at least partly what feedback threads are for.

[roz1972]

:) Thanks for posting this response! I was beginning to think that maybe I was having a brain spasm! Would you mind posting your info under the Help & Support area?? There is a thread called "Flowers..watering sprinkler...etc." and that is where I also posted my glitch. Tiger responded that they (mods) had not had this problem reported before and I should let them know if it happened again. More than one person reporting this would certainly be helpful. It will be at least 5 days before I know if the glitch will occur again, since flowers take 4 days to grow.
Thanks for letting me know I am not the only one!! :)


the same thing has happened to me just now harvesting my neighbours farm , went back and the flowers reappeared but had 11 hours or so till they could be harvest .however i was still getting the coins and they stayed but i had no flowers either

[Deborah1979]

the same thing has happened to me just now harvesting my neighbours farm , went back and the flowers reappeared but had 11 hours or so till they could be harvest .however i was still getting the coins and they stayed but i had no flowers either

Roz....
Would you please also post this under the Help & Support area, if you haven't already done so?? There is a thread called "Flowers, watering sprinkler, problems with flowers, etc. etc." and Tiger has been gathering info to pass along to the devs. There seems to be a glitch somewhere, and the more info and reports they get, the sooner they can find the problem!
Thanks so much for posting!!:):)

[Tiger]

the same thing has happened to me just now harvesting my neighbours farm , went back and the flowers reappeared but had 11 hours or so till they could be harvest .however i was still getting the coins and they stayed but i had no flowers either

Roz....
Would you please also post this under the Help & Support area, if you haven't already done so?? There is a thread called "Flowers, watering sprinkler, problems with flowers, etc. etc." and Tiger has been gathering info to pass along to the devs. There seems to be a glitch somewhere, and the more info and reports they get, the sooner they can find the problem!
Thanks so much for posting!!:):)

It's ok I had spotted it, was just a bit slow to get back to you , was busy in another area.

Deb I have seen your other post in H&S as well. Thank you for the information :)

[KayGee]

Also with respect...there's been some quite unwarranted condescension on the part of some of the people who like the current situation toward people who are having problems with it. Nobody enjoys the sort of "just try using a bit of intelligence and you'll find it'll be fine" put-downs that we've been seeing, or being told to simply change the way they play the game and stop complaining, even though they were doing their complaining in a feedback thread, which is at least partly what feedback threads are for.

Amen tnbskts...

[1fritz]

You know you are right. Several days ago I posted t thread that I can't find now But the basics of what I said were " At first I resented the loss of the brown sprinkler. It just took me a while to get my head around the red one and how it works. I now think it is a great addition to the tools we have to help us farm. It just requires a slight rethinking and some planning on how we plant our farms"

Fritz

[LoreneC]

You know you are right. Several days ago I posted t thread that I can't find now But the basics of what I said were " At first I resented the loss of the brown sprinkler. It just took me a while to get my head around the red one and how it works. I now think it is a great addition to the tools we have to help us farm. It just requires a slight rethinking and some planning on how we plant our farms"

Fritz

I do not resent the loss but I still want my brown sprinkler back. I just had to water using the watering can because I had dead flowers but did not want to irrigate the current crop. I think knowing I paid cash for a convenience tool and not being able to use it is what is annoying.

[Farmer-JP]

Thanks Raul & slashkey team! Awesome, awesome application!

[1fritz]

I do not resent the loss but I still want my brown sprinkler back. I just had to water using the watering can because I had dead flowers but did not want to irrigate the current crop. I think knowing I paid cash for a convenience tool and not being able to use it is what is annoying.

I also have used the watering can when I didn't want to speed up crops that were planted. I've just decided that Farmtown is a game I enjoy and the inconvience of not having the brown sprinkler, is not going to ruin it for me.

Fritz

[LoreneC]

I also have used the watering can when I didn't want to speed up crops that were planted. I've just decided that Farmtown is a game I enjoy and the inconvience of not having the brown sprinkler, is not going to ruin it for me.

Fritz

I agree in that it does not ruin it for me. But if the devs are working on it and it is changed I will be appreciative! I think enough people have expressed dissatisfaction that they probably are.:)

[dianedrayson]

I too want my brown sprinkler back. I have some farms that have flowers for decoration. I now have to look at them dead and brown as I can't water them without affecting all my trees. Does this matter? Well, it does to my timing schedule. I choose not to irrigate my trees, and I have two farms that include both trees and decorative flowers. I also have a flower farm that I am happy to allow to take 4 days to mature. I can't water them now. I have to rely on the harvester to water them before working.

In other words, I have lost choice over the appearance of my farm and the way I work it.

Also, I have lost choice over my crops. I have to factor in that 20-hour limit on replanting. I would have loved to use the irrigator for 8-hour crops, so that I don't have to harvest them in the evening when I should be resting. If I do that, I have to plan carefully what I will plant next, as it won't be irrigated.

I think something we have paid so much money for should be more convenient. It should irrigate ALL crops, either like the manure spreader (where it's the ground that's affected) or by us being able to use it again on a new crop.

[Dr. Dirt]

I too want my brown sprinkler back. I have some farms that have flowers for decoration. I now have to look at them dead and brown as I can't water them without affecting all my trees. Does this matter? Well, it does to my timing schedule. I choose not to irrigate my trees, and I have two farms that include both trees and decorative flowers. I also have a flower farm that I am happy to allow to take 4 days to mature. I can't water them now. I have to rely on the harvester to water them before working.

In other words, I have lost choice over the appearance of my farm and the way I work it.

Also, I have lost choice over my crops. I have to factor in that 20-hour limit on replanting. I would have loved to use the irrigator for 8-hour crops, so that I don't have to harvest them in the evening when I should be resting. If I do that, I have to plan carefully what I will plant next, as it won't be irrigated.

I think something we have paid so much money for should be more convenient. It should irrigate ALL crops, either like the manure spreader (where it's the ground that's affected) or by us being able to use it again on a new crop.

The red sprinkler does nothing to the trees. :)

[Angel7]

Answer me this: our flowers need water but will be ready to harvest in 2 hours and they can wait that long - a neighbor comes by and waters our flowers - can I use the red irrigation tool on my flowers after I harvest them if somebody just watered them an hour earlier? If not, then this is still a problem. We need the ability to not disallow neighbors to water. I've figured out everything else on the red irrigation tool and I love it now that I'm down to keeping track of everything on paper for planning purposes.

[susme48]

Originally Posted by caligirl62: the reason the red sprinkler does not work on crops less then 2d...is because it is for ONCE A DAY...which means the 1d crops would b ready in 12hours....which in turn is TWICE a day...the 8h crops could be planted three times a day...

Answered by tnbskts: don't think people are saying it doesn't work, they're just saying it isn't the optimal use of the red sprinkler since you can't speed up a short-term crop and then go back and immediately speed up a longer one.

I find I love it for short term crops as well; in the late afternoon, or early evening, I can harvest a crop that was long term, and watered more than 20 hrs before to speed it up...then plant anything up to a 12 or 8 hr crop (depending on how long I want to stay up) use the red sprinkler, harvest it before bed, and plant a 12 hr crop without the sprinkler to harvest the next morning. It means that technically I get two sped up crops in one day...even tho' I only watered once :D or that is how I look at it.

I too want my brown sprinkler back. I have some farms that have flowers for decoration. I now have to look at them dead and brown as I can't water them without affecting all my trees....

Someone already told you, I believe that the trees will not be affected by the sprinkler (tho' that would be wonderful...lol) but I to have some flowers for decoration, and discovered quite by accident that there is a delightful ♥ addition to the flower choices, that I never had noticed or read about somehow :o...to freeze their growth...this not only keeps them at their peak, but also makes it impossible to harvest them, or it has so far...I love it, because I had other flowers next to them and had to harvest them one at a time to spare the others. My farm one has two large decorations involving flowers, and until I decided to raise others this was not a prob...NOW this was a surprise 'gift' I am so grateful for !!:D

[tnbskts]

Answer me this: our flowers need water but will be ready to harvest in 2 hours and they can wait that long - a neighbor comes by and waters our flowers - can I use the red irrigation tool on my flowers after I harvest them if somebody just watered them an hour earlier? If not, then this is still a problem. We need the ability to not disallow neighbors to water. I've figured out everything else on the red irrigation tool and I love it now that I'm down to keeping track of everything on paper for planning purposes.

Having neighbours water your flowers shouldn't affect how you use the red sprinkler; that sprinkler is only interested in how long since you watered your own flowers.

However, people have been reporting that their use of the red sprinkler has been affected by neighbours watering their flowers, and this is something the devs are aware of and are working on, because it wasn't meant to be like that.

[Professor farmtown]

Having neighbours water your flowers shouldn't affect how you use the red sprinkler; that sprinkler is only interested in how long since you watered your own flowers.

However, people have been reporting that their use of the red sprinkler has been affected by neighbours watering their flowers, and this is something the devs are aware of and are working on, because it wasn't meant to be like that.
well actually it was meant to be that way, they just realized it was a stupid way to do and decided to change it. which shows that they do pay attentiomn after the fact on some things, so kudos to them

[tnbskts]

Well, according to the OP of this thread, Raul said that it's OK if someone waters your farm in the meantime; it's just that people were finding that it wasn't OK.

[JAS0643]

well actually it was meant to be that way, they just realized it was a stupid way to do and decided to change it. which shows that they do pay attentiomn after the fact on some things, so kudos to them

On the red sprinkler the developers never meant for other people watering your farm to stop you from watering your farm with the red sprinkler. Raul said when he posted this thread that it would not matter if other people watered your farm you could still water your own farm and speed up growth. What I have found is that if someone only has flowers and no crops on a farm if someone else waters them they can not water their flowers but if they plant just one field of a crop on that farm they can water the flowers and speed up growth. So there is just a little glitch the devs need to work out there. Not everything can work perfectly every single time. They will get it working the way it should soon and all will be happy.

[dianedrayson]

On the red sprinkler the developers never meant for other people watering your farm to stop you from watering your farm with the red sprinkler. Raul said when he posted this thread that it would not matter if other people watered your farm you could still water your own farm and speed up growth. What I have found is that if someone only has flowers and no crops on a farm if someone else waters them they can not water their flowers but if they plant just one field of a crop on that farm they can water the flowers and speed up growth. So there is just a little glitch the devs need to work out there. Not everything can work perfectly every single time. They will get it working the way it should soon and all will be happy.

Thanks Jas. I was going mad today trying to get my irrigator to work on the flower farm. It finally worked on about the fifth visit to the farm. I will now go and put in one plot, just to remind myself to plant something next time it doesn't work.

[jcassemjr]

So, I checked the timing of the updates after an upgrade that included a new farm, and the last two were 21 days... It's been 18, so maybe we will get some new toys this week to play with!!! I hope it will include new tools to help fill more of the facilities. I am sick of the game timing out because of all of the extra data needed to open the facilities without a tool to load from the facility manager!

[dianedrayson]

So, I checked the timing of the updates after an upgrade that included a new farm, and the last two were 21 days... It's been 18, so maybe we will get some new toys this week to play with!!! I hope it will include new tools to help fill more of the facilities. I am sick of the game timing out because of all of the extra data needed to open the facilities without a tool to load from the facility manager!

Personally, Jerry, I find it easier to fill facilities from my farm than from the facilities manager. My computer is slow but if for any reason I have to visit all my farms, I now empty barns and fill mines from the farm locations too. (With a schedule, you only have to do 1-2 sets of mines per day, so it's not too bad.) The facility manager is much slower than the actual facilities and I only use it when it's absolutely necessary. I've decided it's faster to empty the facilities as I fill them than to do it through the manager too.

[jcassemjr]

Personally, Jerry, I find it easier to fill facilities from my farm than from the facilities manager. My computer is slow but if for any reason I have to visit all my farms, I now empty barns and fill mines from the farm locations too. (With a schedule, you only have to do 1-2 sets of mines per day, so it's not too bad.) The facility manager is much slower than the actual facilities and I only use it when it's absolutely necessary. I've decided it's faster to empty the facilities as I fill them than to do it through the manager too.

I've tried that too, but then find that since I have multiples of several facilities, and I may end up storing products on a later farm that I need on the current farm. Either way, it still would be nice to have a "Start All" button for several more facilities, since it will speed up the process. I often find that it takes about 1 to 1 1/2 hours to run through all of the facilities.

I'm the type of player that likes to maximize the Diversification Rank, so that means I'm going for 100% utilization in each facility. Some time that means I have to go back and pick up & refill the items that have finished while I am working through all of the facilities.

Anything that will make this move a little quicker, will bring just that much more enjoyment from the game.

[dianedrayson]

Anything that will make this move a little quicker, will bring just that much more enjoyment from the game.

I agree with you!!! I loved the last release but I was sorry that there was only one item to make filling facs faster. I suggested in the forums that they should bring out a multi-tool that would fill every current fac and every future fac. I'd be prepared to pay 300 or 400 fc for it!

What I really want a tool for is the service facs. I find them mind-numbing. There's nothing new in them; it's just a use for existing items. Click, click, click. And I groan when we get a new facility that has to be clicked 12 times. (How did I survive before they brought out the +30 button?)

I generally only fill my facs about once a week. I enjoy the farming but I hate all the clicking - just to get more coins and xp.

[StoneFace]

I agree with you!!! I loved the last release but I was sorry that there was only one item to make filling facs faster. I suggested in the forums that they should bring out a multi-tool that would fill every current fac and every future fac. I'd be prepared to pay 300 or 400 fc for it!

What I really want a tool for is the service facs. I find them mind-numbing. There's nothing new in them; it's just a use for existing items. Click, click, click. And I groan when we get a new facility that has to be clicked 12 times. (How did I survive before they brought out the +30 button?)

I generally only fill my facs about once a week. I enjoy the farming but I hate all the clicking - just to get more coins and xp.


How would anything like THAT be good for the game or the players.... :confused:

It would discourage completely the new players

It would discourage those who don't have an extra $300-400 laying around

It would really peeve off those of us who have played and worked the game and bought the tools we wanted when we could buy them


:confused:

[dianedrayson]

How would anything like THAT be good for the game or the players.... :confused:

It would discourage completely the new players

It would discourage those who don't have an extra $300-400 laying around

It would really peeve off those of us who have played and worked the game and bought the tools we wanted when we could buy them


:confused:

I'm sorry if I confused you. This is a forum to express opinions and dreams and wishes (as well as gripes) and I expressed what I personally would like, knowing that I will go ahead and buy all of these tools anyway and thinking how I would rather choose to do it.

As for my dreaming, look at the Maths. Lately they've been selling us 2 tools, at around 30 farm cash each, every 3 weeks. It would not take long for us to get ahead if they would only sell us a multi-tool.

They could still keep the option for separate tools to be bought if that's what people wanted, and keep releasing them slowly, but have a multi-option on the side for those who like to pay money out ahead and get a bargain.

I know I'm only dreaming and it's not how farm town works, but my love of buying in bulk (and my strong desire to get all the multi-click tools NOW) makes me want to do something like this. lol

As for money, I find in some cases (but not all) it depends on priorities. My need to click less might outweigh my need for other things. At one point I seriously cut down on my chocolate consumption and spent the money on farm town. Then I visited the library more and bought fewer books and used that money on farm town. Some people might visit the pub less or cut down on their smoking (both things I don't do). Others might just put up with clicking the long way for another three months or so while they saved up for it. (And I recognise that farm cash tools are just not affordable for some people at all, and that there is nothing we can do about that, except to occasionally send farm cash certificates to friends, as I have done.)

I'm sorry if my post was a bit thoughtless.

[Tiger]

FRIENDLY REMINDER........ this thread is for feedback on the items listed in the 1st post on page 1 ! Please do not use this thread for other suggestions for the game, post your ideas in the suggestions area of the forum. If you wish to discuss other subjects, do so in social or via private messaging. Thank you.

[al_bundy]

How would anything like THAT be good for the game or the players.... :confused:

It would discourage completely the new players

It would discourage those who don't have an extra $300-400 laying around

It would really peeve off those of us who have played and worked the game and bought the tools we wanted when we could buy them


:confused:

Just a reminder that all opinions and suggestions are welcome on the forum please keep them friendly :)

[thonotosassa]

Patiently waiting for farm 12. :):rolleyes:

[al_bundy]

Patiently waiting for farm 12. :):rolleyes:

There will be anouther regular update before more levels and farm 12 are released as farm 11 only just came out in the current release.

:)

[anneandjuice]

Ok Experiment 2
this is ti test the crop appearance and waste timer accuracy in an IRRIGATED crop

plowed a fresh single plot on farm 11 planted raspberry on it and irrigated it
my local time now 3.55pm rasp showing 59 mins to ready
my local tme now 4.55pm rasp ripe and showing 3.7 hrs (222 mins) to waste
my local time now 5.13pm rasp still showing ripe and timer showing 3.4 hrs (204 mins) to waste time accurate in terms of displayed time to waste vs actual minutes at this point
ok its 6.37 pm and the rasp stilll lookin good showing 2 hrs to wasted so far timer accurate vs actual time
now down to .9 of an hr (54 minutes) raspberry plot still looking healthy timer still accurate

OK WE HAVE A PROBLEM ....AT 33 MINUTES TO WASTED IT IS SHOWING AS WILTED
looks like we have proven there is a problem Caren Katsmom was right and now it has been replicated and verified so over to the devs for a fix
mods pls pass to devs



Hi Dave, I have come across this problem too with an irrigated crop having gone to waste while the time still said it have approx 5 hours before wastage. From memory it was a full farm triple stacked of Soy Beans. Now that was really annoying. There definitely is a problem with the wastage timer.

[Majik Merlin]

ok, how do I delete a message? tried three times..gave up so edited instead...LOL

[JAS0643]

ok, how do I delete a message? tried three times..gave up so edited instead...LOL

When you click on edit on a message click on delete to delete the message.

[StoneFace]

ok, how do I delete a message? tried three times..gave up so edited instead...LOL

after your message is posted, you click on EDIT....

near the bottom of that page is the option to delete, but you don't just click Delete.... you have to first check the box that asked IF you want to delete that message.

Then delete...

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[Molly Mew]

Hi everyone :)

Many thanks for all your feedback on the recent new release, but as this thread has now wandered completely off topic, I'm closing it now.

Please feel free to post any further comments/complaints in the feedback section of the forum, problems in the Help section, and jokes and chit-chat in the Social area.

Thanks again. :)