Belt System Updates -- June 2nd, 2011

[Docperk]

Just think, in a few weeks (or less) we will all have all the belts and we will just get the bonus boxes, problem solved.

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

I don't think you understand how the bonus works, as Raul has said, the one time popups for each belt are not that important. What is important is that you start receiving bonus points from then on, without popups. I don't bother my neighbors for each belt earned, unless I really need the extra crops immediately.

You don't need to request the onetime bonus and flood your neighbors wall

Yes I do understand, I have also been saying that once we have the belts we have a chance of gaining bonus crops that won't involve having to request a bonus.

But as the feedback here has been totally dominated by the use of the pop ups, I thought it might be helpful to add my thoughts to how all the fuss could be greatly reduced.

Raul may have said the pop ups were not important, so why add them in the first place? It's too late now, the deed is done, everyone now wants to make the most of those extra bonus's, hence the spamming, hence my idea to lessen the fuss

[Toranut97]

People have the right to say what they feel, particularly when people also pay with real money for things. The Devs welcome this feedback in order to improve the game.. if people dont have their say, then how do the devs know whats working or not? You sir, are entitled to your opinion, but so are others!

Hey, cookie, I never said people were not entitled to their opinions. Just that all the drama has become amusing in and of itself. And I am entitled to *that* opinion. Say whatever the heck you want. So will I.

And I am *not* a "sir." :rolleyes:

[Tony D]

Hi all, can we please keep this thread on topic.



Thanks :)

[Tani S]

Besides the other issues, I'm primarily concerned that the belts are breaking FarmTown, adding so many layers of programming that the game will hardly run. For the past 24 hours, I've hardly been able to load my farm. Am I the only one?

[dbozzy]

Could someone please direct me to the full explaination of this belt system and time limits start? Personally I could care less. What I do care about it the slowness of how products are processed. I have sold more raw lama wool, wood logs and other stuff--TRADE IT? pusha no one wants it-- because I have more than 15 days processing--in fact all my facilities are full and it is nearly pointless to grow anything.

thank you for the redirect it answered my question.

[pythonis]

Besides the other issues, I'm primarily concerned that the belts are breaking FarmTown, adding so many layers of programming that the game will hardly run. For the past 24 hours, I've hardly been able to load my farm. Am I the only one?
ive had no problems whatsoever (regarding loading)

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

Besides the other issues, I'm primarily concerned that the belts are breaking FarmTown, adding so many layers of programming that the game will hardly run. For the past 24 hours, I've hardly been able to load my farm. Am I the only one?

The devs know the limitations of their server and would not release anything that harms the game. Just occasionally when they release new things, or are tweaking the programming I do find it can be slow to load, this affects some more than others, but it is always temporary. So this could be affecting you, or simply that your computer is running a little slow and needs a bit of a clean out, ie cookies, cache

[pythonis]

A few things to factor in. Do you have a layered/stacked farm? Do you have trees, flowers, decorations, etc on or off ? Are your animals running around loose? These simple things can be pure he11

[PeepsPlace]

When I click to help neighbors, it says the mayor sent 50% to me. But they never show up in my gifts when I go to my farm. Is anyone else having this problem?

[max_river]

When I click to help neighbors, it says the mayor sent 50% to me. But they never show up in my gifts when I go to my farm. Is anyone else having this problem?

it go to your storge not to your gift box

[smarnld38]

I try posting 2 this moring and got a error message....now it don't show up so i can post it?:mad:

[Grammy 11]

A few things to factor in. Do you have a layered/stacked farm? Do you have trees, flowers, decorations, etc on or off ? Are your animals running around loose? These simple things can be pure he11

Aha! Sheep and llamas running amok on most of my farms. Tell me, if the sheds were allowed to hold 200 critters, would my facilities storage be faster?

Thank you.

[kahra01]

Just think, in a few weeks (or less) we will all have all the belts and we will just get the bonus boxes, problem solved.

I'm going to miss it when we dont get the belt requests anymore! this is such a great way of getting so much stuff!

[KEKLAOL]

[QUOTE=Mama*Mia;4694342]


The coins limit is a combination from you working on friends requests and them working on yours. Any gift you get from posting on the wall will show up in your gift box in game for you to add.

ok,I posted for sheep wool textile roll last night. Had 7 in my gift box this morning (18 each). Stored all. Went to storage and there were only 11 there which is what I had the night before. The 7 in my gift box never reached my storage.

Now I don't know if other things in my gift box reached my storage. Don't know if belt bonuses are getting to my storage. Would have to clic k one and check.

Hope devcs will look into thisl. Why post if they are not going 5to get to you (storage).

Love the game but no point of doing posting if not working.

[Majik Merlin]

[QUOTE=Double T Dude Ranch;4694354]

ok,I posted for sheep wool textile roll last night. Had 7 in my gift box this morning (18 each). Stored all. Went to storage and there were only 11 there which is what I had the night before. The 7 in my gift box never reached my storage.

Now I don't know if other things in my gift box reached my storage. Don't know if belt bonuses are getting to my storage. Would have to clic k one and check.

Hope devcs will look into thisl. Why post if they are not going 5to get to you (storage).

Love the game but no point of doing posting if not working.

I'm not getting all my 'goods' either, but figure it is a bug the Devs will work out in time.

I do wonder tho about the limits. I prefer no limits but be that as it may, I was wondering if it would be possible to have a counter that would show us how many we have left when we post to a bonus?? I get frustrated when I click on 'claim bonus' only to find I don't get it cuz I reached my limit, then I wait 12 hours and go back down he long long list and try again and it says the link has expired (because I clicked on it before- and didn't get it)

Would also like some kind of 'clock' that would tell me how long I have to wait to claim more.

Thank you devs for any attention to this

[PeepsPlace]

When I click to help neighbors, it says the mayor sent 50% to me. But they never show up in my gifts when I go to my farm. Is anyone else having this problem?

I am confused. Are you saying when I help others, it goes to my storage but when others help me, it goes to my gifts?

[ridgie247]

I don't think you understand how the bonus works, as Raul has said, the one time popups for each belt are not that important. What is important is that you start receiving bonus points from then on, without popups. I don't bother my neighbors for each belt earned, unless I really need the extra crops immediately.

You don't need to request the onetime bonus and flood your neighbors wall

I can see where some of the complaints arise from when the devs call it your neighbors wall... it is not your neighbors wall but the FARM TOWN game feed.

Baba the belt itself as I understand this until they explain the word "chance", may give you zero extra boxes as you harvest. If they have explained it and I've missed that will need to find the update or someone can fill me in.

I am with Oopsy on this (and she gets it and understands it very well with the information we have been given). And I am thankful I have neighbors who are posting them. Where in this game can we gain 1000's of an item with one click but a belt reward?

From the devs update I gather they won't be updating how the belt reward postings work and are now trying to pacify the situation with their insignificant post. I have moved on from this disaster for now, grateful to my neighbors who also get the value of the rewards. And hope next time there is an update like this that the devs think it out a little better versus saying what they did was insignificant.

[Taz D]

I am confused. Are you saying when I help others, it goes to my storage but when others help me, it goes to my gifts?
That is correct.

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

Thank you ridgie ;):)

NOW assuming the pop up issue is going to drop off quite soon, it still leaves me with a couple of questions that so far have been ignored. How do we know if we got lucky and have received a bonus? I have harvested quite a lot over the past few days and have had no indication as to whether or not I got the bonus. Do we in fact get a notification?, in which case I have been rather unlucky so far. Also what is the bonus quantity based on?, is it random or a fixed percentage of our harvest.

This is something I would like the devs to provide us with some details on. I am not one who gets upset if I don't receive anything, I am grateful for whatever, whenever, it's ALL good fun to me, BUT it would be nice to know when I HAVE been rewarded and to know just how much I received.

Now devs, tell me please, when did you say were getting another 15 farms?? :D:D

[Jane The Farmer]

Hey,

Could someone please answer me this question? If i help someone on one of their belt bonuses and it says nothing was sent to me because i have reached my limit, does the person who posted the bonus still get what she asked for, even though i got nothing?

thanks :)

[Mimikrie]

Thank you ridgie ;):)



Now devs, tell me please, when did you say were getting another 15 farms?? :D:D

LMFAOOOO OOPSY!!!!! lol

[Taz D]

Hey,

Could someone please answer me this question? If i help someone on one of their belt bonuses and it says nothing was sent to me because i have reached my limit, does the person who posted the bonus still get what she asked for, even though i got nothing?

thanks :)
Only if it lists an amount sent to them too. If not then they have also reached their limit.

[Taz D]

Thank you ridgie ;):)

NOW assuming the pop up issue is going to drop off quite soon, it still leaves me with a couple of questions that so far have been ignored. How do we know if we got lucky and have received a bonus? I have harvested quite a lot over the past few days and have had no indication as to whether or not I got the bonus. Do we in fact get a notification?, in which case I have been rather unlucky so far. Also what is the bonus quantity based on?, is it random or a fixed percentage of our harvest.

This is something I would like the devs to provide us with some details on. I am not one who gets upset if I don't receive anything, I am grateful for whatever, whenever, it's ALL good fun to me, BUT it would be nice to know when I HAVE been rewarded and to know just how much I received.

Now devs, tell me please, when did you say were getting another 15 farms?? :D:D
They should appear in your gift box when you open your farm. The thing to remember is that if you have helped others and gotten goods from that then that is part of your 1,000,000 total.
What I do in the morning is to harvest my crops from over night and see if I get one I really want. If I do then I wait for a bit before helping others, so I can get some. Then I go help others after I have gotten mine. That way when I help they get theirs but I get the limit message for my part. I win...they win.

[Farmer Homer]

I'm really liking the belts, I was confused at first but now I find myself planting everything to get the top belt or dan. It is a new challenge for me and I like it.

I've stopped posting bonuses on my wall because as Raul said, the real advantage is once the level is achieved, we have a greater chance of increasing the harvest.

The only question I now have is how do we know if we get our harvest increased? I know everyone hates pop ups but a fading congratulations you have doubled your harvest or whatever would be a nice incentive, kind of like winning at slots. :)

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

They should appear in your gift box when you open your farm. The thing to remember is that if you have helped others and gotten goods from that then that is part of your 1,000,000 total.
What I do in the morning is to harvest my crops from over night and see if I get one I really want. If I do then I wait for a bit before helping others, so I can get some. Then I go help others after I have gotten mine. That way when I help they get theirs but I get the limit message for my part. I win...they win.

No Taz I am referring to the none request bonus that is based on the whatever % chance of a bonus. Or simply put ...the chance bonus

[ridgie247]

Thank you ridgie ;):)

NOW assuming the pop up issue is going to drop off quite soon, it still leaves me with a couple of questions that so far have been ignored. How do we know if we got lucky and have received a bonus? I have harvested quite a lot over the past few days and have had no indication as to whether or not I got the bonus. Do we in fact get a notification?, in which case I have been rather unlucky so far. Also what is the bonus quantity based on?, is it random or a fixed percentage of our harvest.

This is something I would like the devs to provide us with some details on. I am not one who gets upset if I don't receive anything, I am grateful for whatever, whenever, it's ALL good fun to me, BUT it would be nice to know when I HAVE been rewarded and to know just how much I received.

Now devs, tell me please, when did you say were getting another 15 farms?? :D:D

So far with my harvest, no little notifications or floating pictures like when we harvest a neighbors farm. Maybe that is in the works.

It would be nice to know because, will it allow me to stop planting more flowers? Is it a better chance on the flowers to gain the bonus, which is a 4 day crop versus planting a 12 hour crop, like sugar or is it based on harvesting every 12 hours? *gasps another 12 hour thing*

I'll take 3 more farms please.

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

So far with my harvest, no little notifications or floating pictures like when we harvest a neighbors farm. Maybe that is in the works.

It would be nice to know because, will it allow me to stop planting more flowers? Is it a better chance on the flowers to gain the bonus, which is a 4 day crop versus planting a 12 hour crop, like sugar or is it based on harvesting every 12 hours? *gasps another 12 hour thing*

I'll take 3 more farms please.

I know, I know.... never has a new release left so many unanswered questions, or caused so much chaos, which I have to add is making me giggle more everyday, yes I have a very warped humour. :o

Just 3 farms? wow you are easy to please :)

[Jane The Farmer]

Only if it lists an amount sent to them too. If not then they have also reached their limit.

Thanks for the speedy answer! :D

[JAS0643]

ok,I posted for sheep wool textile roll last night. Had 7 in my gift box this morning (18 each). Stored all. Went to storage and there were only 11 there which is what I had the night before. The 7 in my gift box never reached my storage.

Now I don't know if other things in my gift box reached my storage. Don't know if belt bonuses are getting to my storage. Would have to clic k one and check.

Hope devcs will look into thisl. Why post if they are not going 5to get to you (storage).

Love the game but no point of doing posting if not working.

Did you ask for stuff to make sheep wool textile rolls or did you ask for ingredients to make something that uses sheep wool textile rolls? If you asked for ingredients to make the rolls what you got was sheep wool not the rolls, if you asked for ingredients for something that uses the rolls not sure what happened.

So far with my harvest, no little notifications or floating pictures like when we harvest a neighbors farm. Maybe that is in the works.

It would be nice to know because, will it allow me to stop planting more flowers? Is it a better chance on the flowers to gain the bonus, which is a 4 day crop versus planting a 12 hour crop, like sugar or is it based on harvesting every 12 hours? *gasps another 12 hour thing*

I'll take 3 more farms please.


I know, I know.... never has a new release left so many unanswered questions, or caused so much chaos, which I have to add is making me giggle more everyday, yes I have a very warped humour. :o

Just 3 farms? wow you are easy to please :)

From what I can tell you will get the percent you are at when you harvest a farm. What that means is if you are at the 52% mark and you harvest 1000 fields you will get 1520 boxes added to your storage or 2520 boxes added to your storage if you have them fertilized. This is the same for all crops, trees, and flowers.

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

From what I can tell you will get the percent you are at when you harvest a farm. What that means is if you are at the 52% mark and you harvest 1000 fields you will get 1520 boxes added to your storage or 2520 boxes added to your storage if you have them fertilized. This is the same for all crops, trees, and flowers.

Well if that is the case, it makes perfect sense. How did you manage to find that info? or have you been making notes of every harvest?

[ridgie247]

From what I can tell you will get the percent you are at when you harvest a farm. What that means is if you are at the 52% mark and you harvest 1000 fields you will get 1520 boxes added to your storage or 2520 boxes added to your storage if you have them fertilized. This is the same for all crops, trees, and flowers.

If this is right, that would wonderful but why use the word "chance" in their belt info versus "you will earn".

Until it is clearer I will savor each of the belt rewards from my neighbors posting and eventually earn them all.

[max_river]

I know, I know.... never has a new release left so many unanswered questions, or caused so much chaos, which I have to add is making me giggle more everyday, yes I have a very warped humour. :o

Just 3 farms? wow you are easy to please :)

but we like you for that i always get a good chuckle

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

If this is right, that would wonderful but why use the word "chance" in their belt info versus "you will earn".

Until it is clearer I will savor each of the belt rewards from my neighbors posting and eventually earn them all.

ridgie it's because it is only a whatever percent chance depending on your rank, ie the last rank gives us a 72% chance of a reward. So it's still a lottery

[JAS0643]

Well if that is the case, it makes perfect sense. How did you manage to find that info? or have you been making notes of every harvest?

Just watching what is going in my storage. Until I get to a final dan belt it is hard to do the exact math on it since you may reach one or 5 :D belts in a harvest of one normal 1024 field farm but I know there is way more in my storage then what would be there without the extra "chance". Also it is like the 20% you get for working for other you can do the math on it but there is no need you know that you get the 20% and it is added to your storage. Those 20% are easy to spot if you always hire for your harvest or you harvest a crop that you never plant because it is not used in a facility. I think it is the word chance that is causing the confusion and also how other games do their chance stuff. I know there are games out there that say the chance of something happening is this but they are lying to us. FT developers are not like that if it says you have a 52% chance then that is what it will be. It could also be like the fish in water is. If you take note of the amount of fish a lake with boat it has 199 fish in it now divide that number by the number of types of fish in the water you will get about how many of each fish you will get each time you fish that water. So 199/7=28.43 so you get 28 of each type of fish. That said one day you may get 32 salmon the next 28 salmon, the next 25 salmon, so while you should get 28 each time it will very but is around that 28 mark. Now like I said before 1000 fields will get you 1520 boxes but when you do the math one day it might be 520 extra boxes the next it could be 510 the next it could be 530 but it will be very close to the 52% you should get. I think once that really sinks in to some people they will stop hating the belts and love them. I know I do because there are some crops that I use so much of it is hard to keep them in stock even with the spreading pig s*** on my farm. :)

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

but we like you for that i always get a good chuckle

aww thank you max, most people get mad at my ability to laugh at the wrong time and the wrong things...which of course only makes me laugh more...I just can't help myself. :D

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

Just watching what is going in my storage. Until I get to a final dan belt it is hard to do the exact math on it since you may reach one or 5 :D belts in a harvest of one normal 1024 field farm but I know there is way more in my storage then what would be there without the extra "chance". Also it is like the 20% you get for working for other you can do the math on it but there is no need you know that you get the 20% and it is added to your storage. Those 20% are easy to spot if you always hire for your harvest or you harvest a crop that you never plant because it is not used in a facility. I think it is the word chance that is causing the confusion and also how other games do their chance stuff. I know there are games out there that say the chance of something happening is this but they are lying to us. FT developers are not like that if it says you have a 52% chance then that is what it will be. It could also be like the fish in water is. If you take note of the amount of fish a lake with boat it has 199 fish in it now divide that number by the number of types of fish in the water you will get about how many of each fish you will get each time you fish that water. So 199/7=28.43 so you get 28 of each type of fish. That said one day you may get 32 salmon the next 28 salmon, the next 25 salmon, so while you should get 28 each time it will very but is around that 28 mark. Now like I said before 1000 fields will get you 1520 boxes but when you do the math one day it might be 520 extra boxes the next it could be 510 the next it could be 530 but it will be very close to the 52% you should get. I think once that really sinks in to some people they will stop hating the belts and love them. I know I do because there are some crops that I use so much of it is hard to keep them in stock even with the spreading pig s*** on my farm. :)



hehe, sorry jas I am giggling because there is no way I can keep up with your wonderful mathematical brain. But yep I am getting to understand it all a bit more everyday.

At first I wasn't that fussed about the belts, but I have come to realise what a great asset they are going to be for all of us....if only people would take the time to see it too

[ridgie247]

Just watching what is going in my storage. Until I get to a final dan belt it is hard to do the exact math on it since you may reach one or 5 :D belts in a harvest of one normal 1024 field farm but I know there is way more in my storage then what would be there without the extra "chance". Also it is like the 20% you get for working for other you can do the math on it but there is no need you know that you get the 20% and it is added to your storage. Those 20% are easy to spot if you always hire for your harvest or you harvest a crop that you never plant because it is not used in a facility. I think it is the word chance that is causing the confusion and also how other games do their chance stuff. I know there are games out there that say the chance of something happening is this but they are lying to us. FT developers are not like that if it says you have a 52% chance then that is what it will be. It could also be like the fish in water is. If you take note of the amount of fish a lake with boat it has 199 fish in it now divide that number by the number of types of fish in the water you will get about how many of each fish you will get each time you fish that water. So 199/7=28.43 so you get 28 of each type of fish. That said one day you may get 32 salmon the next 28 salmon, the next 25 salmon, so while you should get 28 each time it will very but is around that 28 mark. Now like I said before 1000 fields will get you 1520 boxes but when you do the math one day it might be 520 extra boxes the next it could be 510 the next it could be 530 but it will be very close to the 52% you should get. I think once that really sinks in to some people they will stop hating the belts and love them. I know I do because there are some crops that I use so much of it is hard to keep them in stock even with the spreading pig s*** on my farm. :)


When the belts came out I did love them still do even if I wasn't going to get a reward each and every time i harvested (as I viewed it), wasn't a fan of how they changed the 3hour to 12 hour on the belt rewards.

I have harvested my flowers and noticed I had a larger amount than had planted, pretty sure not from any reward clicking. As the one I clicked on didn't work when they had the flower reward glitch and may have received the bonus later but it was still more than what the first brown belt bonus was.

Perhaps a sticky is in order (or we can keep quoting jas on each and every post)

[max_river]

hehe, sorry jas I am giggling because there is no way I can keep up with your wonderful mathematical brain. But yep I am getting to understand it all a bit more everyday.

At first I wasn't that fussed about the belts, but I have come to realise what a great asset they are going to be for all of us....if only people would take the time to see it too

well said and it helps when folks share the info with each other

[yokel steve]

Im impressed that the peeps at slashkey have taken into account the wows of the worlds financial markets and come up with this belts thing ....basicaly they are flooding the market with unearned crops and thus xps so a new starter can bounce up to a good level in a few days its down side is that now i have 10000 tomatoes in my store and no one wants them at the market except Bob ...cos they click on a belt link from a friend and they get a weeks supply gratis therefore they dont plant them and i have to get a lower price for my goods but the danger is once everyone has make it to top dan level the the supply of belts will dry up and the market will crash and most peeps will be maxed on the levels or is this a ploy to make the plots produce twice the crops hence you need to plant less to get the same amount giving you more room to decorate which is fine but as most peeps have decs n trees turned off so nobody see all the hard work ive put into the designs of my farms
it will be fun to see what happens over the next few weeks i hope the banks of the world are watching they may get some ideas

[Husker Fan]

i would like to see the time that you can get products from request from friends to 3 times every 12 hours instead of once every 12 hours. it would help them out with their bonus and help us with getting some of the products that we may need.

[Grammy 11]

If I get a "slot machine" jackpot, I would like to know it. I don't keep track of my inventories. Thank you.

[Platonicsolid]

The Bottom line = 3 pop-ups in one harvest is annoying. And Yes, given the choice of no bonus crops or no pop-ups I'd forfeit the bonus crops any day.

[Original Tee]

when the belts were first introduced i loved it exactly as it was originally implemented. extra and free crops? sure, i'll take those anytime. others felt it was a little overwhelming with so many posts. the devs listened and changed the posts to begin with the brown belt. ok, that was fine. a few less posts was all. then folks complained that they wanted a higher time limit. i've read those posts and i don't believe the people requesting this understood the belt rewards, but once again the devs listened and changed the time to 12 hours. well, i wasn't happy about that, but i finally decided to just go through my wall once every 12 hours and hit one post per each friend for ingredients and another for bonus. by the way, even after i meet my million coins, i continue to click my friends posts because i feel it is only fair since i expect them to click mine if they are over their limits. i understand the higher time limit was begged for by many people and we have always gotten what we ask for in this game, but the thing that bothers me is that the number of posts were also changed from 3 to 5 at the same time it was changed to 12 hours. this is illogical since the posts expire in 24 hours and no one can possibly collect on more than 2 of the 10 possible posts (or 4 of the 20 possible if you count both bonus and ingredient in a 24 hour period). i will live with whatever farm town decides to stick with because i love this game, but it seems everyone wanted less posts so we got the 12 hour limit. now we have a lot of posts we can never collect on. it's just very disappointing and so illogical with 12 hour limit and 5 posts.

[Double T Dude Ranch]

You have to be at least level 150 to earn belts, so I think it is safe to ease up on the resentment! :p

Actually anyone can earn belts, it's the Dans that are for 150 and higher.

[ridgie247]

Just throwing this out there… I know what Jas wrote, but still stuck on the chance thing

When harvesting they have to account for all types of crops and their harvesting time. (as with the belt rewards and why it takes more crops to earn the next level belt)

4 day crop - 100% of your current belt rank
3 day – 75%
2 day – 50%
1 day – 25%
12 hour 13%
8 hour – 10%
4 hour – 5%
2 hour – 2.5%
Or something close to it.
When you harvest onions you would receive 100% of your current belt rank
When you harvest raspberries you would receive 2.5% of your current belt rank.

It would seem that this would allow us to plant less of the 4 days and allow us to plant more needed items like wheat, tomatoes and rice.

Thoughts?

[Grumpa]

Just throwing this out there… I know what Jas wrote, but still stuck on the chance thing

When harvesting they have to account for all types of crops and their harvesting time. (as with the belt rewards and why it takes more crops to earn the next level belt)

4 day crop - 100% of your current belt rank
3 day – 75%
2 day – 50%
1 day – 25%
12 hour 13%
8 hour – 10%
4 hour – 5%
2 hour – 2.5%
Or something close to it.
When you harvest onions you would receive 100% of your current belt rank
When you harvest raspberries you would receive 2.5% of your current belt rank.

It would seem that this would allow us to plant less of the 4 days and allow us to plant more needed items like wheat, tomatoes and rice.

Thoughts?

But grasshopper onions are only a 3 day crop so you would only receive 75%. :eek:

[ridgie247]

But grasshopper onions are only a 3 day crop so you would only receive 75%. :eek:

Okay then maybe I am not stuck on the chance thing any more :o Thank you grumpa :)

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

Just throwing this out there… I know what Jas wrote, but still stuck on the chance thing

When harvesting they have to account for all types of crops and their harvesting time. (as with the belt rewards and why it takes more crops to earn the next level belt)

4 day crop - 100% of your current belt rank
3 day – 75%
2 day – 50%
1 day – 25%
12 hour 13%
8 hour – 10%
4 hour – 5%
2 hour – 2.5%
Or something close to it.
When you harvest onions you would receive 100% of your current belt rank
When you harvest raspberries you would receive 2.5% of your current belt rank.

It would seem that this would allow us to plant less of the 4 days and allow us to plant more needed items like wheat, tomatoes and rice.

Thoughts?

ridgie I can see where you are going with this and it makes good sense, BUT the devs have already set the rates, we are if we are lucky already getting the bonus at whatever rates they have decided, WE just don't know for sure what they are yet. So instead of driving yourself nuts, wait to see what they have to say.

We have only just started asking for this information so give them a few days to inform us. I will be interested to see how it compares to what you think it should be ;)

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

Okay then maybe I am not stuck on the chance thing any more :o Thank you grumpa :)

hahahaha...sure you are :p

[ridgie247]

ridgie I can see where you are going with this and it makes good sense, BUT the devs have already set the rates, we are if we are lucky already getting the bonus at whatever rates they have decided, WE just don't know for sure what they are yet. So instead of driving yourself nuts, wait to see what they have to say.

We have only just started asking for this information so give them a few days to inform us. I will be interested to see how it compares to what you think it should be ;)

Well after my last ding bat post with the onions, pretty sure I am not stuck on the chance word. Good thing I said "or something like this" but uh... Quick keys Grumpa was fast on the 3 day thing. I am now giggling at my own post... Since we seem to learning along the way here, didn't think the devs would make another announcement. Good to know they will.

[Double T Dude Ranch]

I'm not sure that they are going to make another announcement or not, they never said :)

[Majik Merlin]

Im impressed that the peeps at slashkey have taken into account the wows of the worlds financial markets and come up with this belts thing ....basicaly they are flooding the market with unearned crops and thus xps so a new starter can bounce up to a good level in a few days its down side is that now i have 10000 tomatoes in my store and no one wants them at the market except Bob ...cos they click on a belt link from a friend and they get a weeks supply gratis therefore they dont plant them and i have to get a lower price for my goods but the danger is once everyone has make it to top dan level the the supply of belts will dry up and the market will crash and most peeps will be maxed on the levels or is this a ploy to make the plots produce twice the crops hence you need to plant less to get the same amount giving you more room to decorate which is fine but as most peeps have decs n trees turned off so nobody see all the hard work ive put into the designs of my farms
it will be fun to see what happens over the next few weeks i hope the banks of the world are watching they may get some ideas

You can sell me your maters...I can NEVER get enough even wi the belt system...sigh LOL

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

I'm not sure that they are going to make another announcement or not, they never said :)Y

Yea I know DT, I am only surmising and hoping they will. It's just that last detail that we need now, so hopefully they will.

[ridgie247]

Okay DT if they don't, then I revise my post to 4 and 3 day at 100% of the belt rank until I'm not so lazy and actually count what I get. here all week for a few giggles, I accept cash only for parties.

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

Well after my last ding bat post with the onions, pretty sure I am not stuck on the chance word. Good thing I said "or something like this" but uh... Quick keys Grumpa was fast on the 3 day thing. I am now giggling at my own post... Since we seem to learning along the way here, didn't think the devs would make another announcement. Good to know they will.

Well no I am only assuming and hoping they will update us with the quantities and also a nice little unobtrusive notie that we have won the reward.

And as for onion thing, well, with all the confusion and fuss this week I can't tell my onions from my peppers at the moment. But one thing I do know is I started off rather skeptical about the whole belt thing, but now I think it's an excellent idea. I think it was just that first day with all the pop ups everywhere, that made us want to run for the hills.

Now what on earth are we all going to have to talk about once this thread comes to a virtual standstill?

[whatelse60]

i still don't understand belts..where do i find the info....thanks...

[JAS0643]

ridgie I can see where you are going with this and it makes good sense, BUT the devs have already set the rates, we are if we are lucky already getting the bonus at whatever rates they have decided, WE just don't know for sure what they are yet. So instead of driving yourself nuts, wait to see what they have to say.

We have only just started asking for this information so give them a few days to inform us. I will be interested to see how it compares to what you think it should be ;)

The bonus rates are set and given in the first post of this thread. I just can't do the math on any of them because it takes less then one non stacked farm full of crops to get a belt and depending on if you have harvested that crop before you may get 5 or 6 belts from that same farm. So the exact math is hard to do because the bonus rate will change because you got a new belt. Now once I can get to a 6th degree dan belt in something I can do the math and make sure that you get the 72% chance of getting an extra box like it says. I would be willing to bet it is like I said in my other post today. If you keep track of it and do the math today you may get 72% tomorrow you might get 73% and the next time it is 71% it will fall into a range but it will be very close to the 72% that you are supposed to get.

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

The bonus rates are set and given in the first post of this thread. I just can't do the math on any of them because it takes less then one non stacked farm full of crops to get a belt and depending on if you have harvested that crop before you may get 5 or 6 belts from that same farm. So the exact math is hard to do because the bonus rate will change because you got a new belt. Now once I can get to a 6th degree dan belt in something I can do the math and make sure that you get the 72% chance of getting an extra box like it says. I would be willing to bet it is like I said in my other post today. If you keep track of it and do the math today you may get 72% tomorrow you might get 73% and the next time it is 71% it will fall into a range but it will be very close to the 72% that you are supposed to get.



Ah but Jas the 72% is not the percentage we get, but it's a 72% CHANCE of getting something, which is quite different. In other words it is not guaranteed that we get the reward every time we harvest, no matter what rank or belt we have. Which is why I am hoping that if we are lucky enough to get the reward we get some kind of unobtrusive notification that we did, including how much we got

[JAS0643]

Ah but Jas the 72% is not the percentage we get, but it's a 72% CHANCE of getting something, which is quite different. In other words it is not guaranteed that we get the reward every time we harvest, no matter what rank or belt we have. Which is why I am hoping that if we are lucky enough to get the reward we get some kind of unobtrusive notification that we did, including how much we got

I think you are missing the point I am trying to make. The developers have given us the percent chance we have of getting an extra box. What that means is if you harvest crops you can take the number of fields you have and multiple it by the percent you are at and that is ruffly what you will get. While there is a "chance" involved it is the same with each fields (unless you reach a new belt) and the law of probability applies here. Take flipping a quarter if you have a normal quarter (by normal one side is not weighted) you have a 50% chance of it landing on heads when flipped. Now you can flip that coin 100 times and you will get heads 50 times, then flip it 100 more times and get heads 48 times, then flip it 100 more times and get heads 52 times. So the first time you flipped it 100 times you got exactly 50% which is what is supposed to happen, but the next time you got heads 48% of the time, and the time after that you got heads 52% of the time. If you keep doing this you will see that while you will not always get heads exactly 50% of the time it will be very close to 50% of the time and average out to 50% of the time when done enough times. So if yo are at x percent for a belt and harvest a field of crops you will get approximately x% of the fields you harvest. There is no indication of an extra box and that may have to do with coding and the fact that the floating text takes up a lot of memory and people have complained about that in the past. I would also suspect that a lot of people have the floating text turned off so why brother if they will never see it.

[Tony D]

I think you are missing the point I am trying to make. The developers have given us the percent chance we have of getting an extra box. What that means is if you harvest crops you can take the number of fields you have and multiple it by the percent you are at and that is ruffly what you will get. While there is a "chance" involved it is the same with each fields (unless you reach a new belt) and the law of probability applies here. Take flipping a quarter if you have a normal quarter (by normal one side is not weighted) you have a 50% chance of it landing on heads when flipped. Now you can flip that coin 100 times and you will get heads 50 times, then flip it 100 more times and get heads 48 times, then flip it 100 more times and get heads 52 times. So the first time you flipped it 100 times you got exactly 50% which is what is supposed to happen, but the next time you got heads 48% of the time, and the time after that you got heads 52% of the time. If you keep doing this you will see that while you will not always get heads exactly 50% of the time it will be very close to 50% of the time and average out to 50% of the time when done enough times. So if yo are at x percent for a belt and harvest a field of crops you will get approximately x% of the fields you harvest. There is no indication of an extra box and that may have to do with coding and the fact that the floating text takes up a lot of memory and people have complained about that in the past. I would also suspect that a lot of people have the floating text turned off so why brother if they will never see it.Actually mate you can flip a coin 100 times and it could land on heads every time , improbable yes , but that is why it is called chance :)

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

I think you are missing the point I am trying to make. The developers have given us the percent chance we have of getting an extra box. What that means is if you harvest crops you can take the number of fields you have and multiple it by the percent you are at and that is ruffly what you will get. While there is a "chance" involved it is the same with each fields (unless you reach a new belt) and the law of probability applies here. Take flipping a quarter if you have a normal quarter (by normal one side is not weighted) you have a 50% chance of it landing on heads when flipped. Now you can flip that coin 100 times and you will get heads 50 times, then flip it 100 more times and get heads 48 times, then flip it 100 more times and get heads 52 times. So the first time you flipped it 100 times you got exactly 50% which is what is supposed to happen, but the next time you got heads 48% of the time, and the time after that you got heads 52% of the time. If you keep doing this you will see that while you will not always get heads exactly 50% of the time it will be very close to 50% of the time and average out to 50% of the time when done enough times. So if yo are at x percent for a belt and harvest a field of crops you will get approximately x% of the fields you harvest. There is no indication of an extra box and that may have to do with coding and the fact that the floating text takes up a lot of memory and people have complained about that in the past. I would also suspect that a lot of people have the floating text turned off so why brother if they will never see it.

You amaze me Jas, and yep I have a better understanding now of what you have been saying . BUT for me personally it will still be so much easier if we were told when and what we got. And yes you are right about the floaters, so I think the answer to that is that all our rewards go to our gift box and not directly to storage. That instantly removes all the guess work for everyone.

Actually I think I will add that to one of the suggestion threads

[Docperk]

Has anyone else noticed that notification of the belt is sometimes slow? I have had someone harvesting several fields and be done or at least almost done with the next field or two before I received notification of the belt from the previous fields.

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

Has anyone else noticed that notification of the belt is sometimes slow? I have had someone harvesting several fields and be done or at least almost done with the next field or two before I received notification of the belt from the previous fields.

Yes it does happen from time to time

[JAS0643]

Actually mate you can flip a coin 100 times and it could land on heads every time , improbable yes , but that is why it is called chance :)

While the probability of that happening is not 0 it is very small and if you flip a coin enough times it will average out to 50%. So assuming that the chance of getting an extra box is a fair one (which I am sure it is) then if you do the math every time you will get close to the percent you are at for that belt. Now one day it may be a little more the next a little less but on average it is what you would expect to get. Like with any game of chance the more you play the better you have of hitting the exact percent of times it says. So if you harvest 10 fields of something you might only get 5 extra boxes and not the 7 you would expect but if you harvest 1000 fields it will be a lot closer to the 72% you should get. I think the water is set up this way take the big lake with boat you have a 1 in 7 chance of getting a salmon when you fish. There are 199 fish so you should get 28 salmon but you do not always get 28 salmon some days it is 24 some it is 32 it will always be close to the 28 but not always exactly 28. The lakes are not set up to give the exact same number of each type of fish each time you fish they will all very but will be close to the number you expect to get. You will not fish the lake and only get 2 salmon even though that might be possible it never happens.

[Tony D]

While the probability of that happening is not 0 it is very small and if you flip a coin enough times it will average out to 50%. So assuming that the chance of getting an extra box is a fair one (which I am sure it is) then if you do the math every time you will get close to the percent you are at for that belt. Now one day it may be a little more the next a little less but on average it is what you would expect to get. Like with any game of chance the more you play the better you have of hitting the exact percent of times it says. So if you harvest 10 fields of something you might only get 5 extra boxes and not the 7 you would expect but if you harvest 1000 fields it will be a lot closer to the 72% you should get. I think the water is set up this way take the big lake with boat you have a 1 in 7 chance of getting a salmon when you fish. There are 199 fish so you should get 28 salmon but you do not always get 28 salmon some days it is 24 some it is 32 it will always be close to the 28 but not always exactly 28. The lakes are not set up to give the exact same number of each type of fish each time you fish they will all very but will be close to the number you expect to get. You will not fish the lake and only get 2 salmon even though that might be possible it never happens.
Average and chance are not the same thing mate :)

[max_river]

i have question but not sure if it is right place to post sorry if it is not. my question is do you think our div rank is going to fit into this some how

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

I am enjoying this conversation. So correct me if I am wrong, as I have never given any thought before regarding the difference between average and chance.

So if you are a very unlucky person left to chance you might never get anything...although as you said Tony, improbable. In other words it is totally out of our control. Whereas average although still bit of a lottery is something you can to a degree make an educated guess as to when and what you will receive based on history.

Am I getting there?

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

i have question but not sure if it is right place to post sorry if it is not. my question is do you think our div rank is going to fit into this some how


Yes max, the higher your rank, the greater your chances of a bonus.

[max_river]

i will take anything i get free is free and i like that

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

i will take anything i get free is free and i like that

Oh yes me too

[vuesen]

When I click to help neighbors, it says the mayor sent 50% to me. But they never show up in my gifts when I go to my farm. Is anyone else having this problem?

they put them in your storage , not the gift box. read when you help , there is a note saying so.
Sorry my english, i am from spain and i am not good enough with the english language.

[Happy pants]

they put them in your storage , not the gift box. read when you help , there is a note saying so.
Sorry my english, i am from spain and i am not good enough with the english language.

You made yourself pretty clear, vuesen. Good job, and you're right.

[JAS0643]

Average and chance are not the same thing mate :)

I never said average and chance was the same thing what I said was that if you take a quarter and flip it enough times you will find the average chance of it landing on heads is 50%. Flipping a coin 2 times is not enough tries to get the chance of it landing on heads because both times it may land on heads or both times it may land on tails leading you to believe that the chance of that happening is either 100% or 0% which is not the case. If you flip the coin enough times it will land on heads 50% of the time. It will work the same with harvesting the crops every time you harvest you have a x% chance of getting an extra box and if you do the math it may not be exactly x% each time but if you keep track of it it will be close to that and will average out to be x% over time. Also the more fields you harvest the more you will see that the extra crops you will get will be close to the x% you should get for that belt. The developers have not set this up to where you will never get an extra box if you are an unlucky person. I think the confusion is in their choice of the word chance from what I have seen with my own harvest you are not really chancing anything you are getting the x% it says you will get. This comes from a person that couldn't win a raffle if there was 100 tickets in the pot and 99 of them had my name on them I wouldn't win.

[Tony D]

I never said average and chance was the same thing what I said was that if you take a quarter and flip it enough times you will find the average chance of it landing on heads is 50%. Flipping a coin 2 times is not enough tries to get the chance of it landing on heads because both times it may land on heads or both times it may land on tails leading you to believe that the chance of that happening is either 100% or 0% which is not the case. If you flip the coin enough times it will land on heads 50% of the time. It will work the same with harvesting the crops every time you harvest you have a x% chance of getting an extra box and if you do the math it may not be exactly x% each time but if you keep track of it it will be close to that and will average out to be x% over time. Also the more fields you harvest the more you will see that the extra crops you will get will be close to the x% you should get for that belt. The developers have not set this up to where you will never get an extra box if you are an unlucky person. I think the confusion is in their choice of the word chance from what I have seen with my own harvest you are not really chancing anything you are getting the x% it says you will get. This comes from a person that couldn't win a raffle if there was 100 tickets in the pot and 99 of them had my name on them I wouldn't win. Sorry, my bad, I had the other ticket :o :D

[Conjody]

When I click on the bonuses, I can't see that I'm getting anything at all. I checked both gifts and storage. For instance, I clicked on a friends brown belt for apples. I do not have any apple trees on my farm so it would have been easy to see if I'd gotten the bonus. The message came up saying that they'd received theirs and I had gotten mine. But the products never showed up anywhere. Any ideas?

[Jean's Farm]

i still don't understand belts..where do i find the info....thanks...

The info is in the first post of this thread. :)

[Original Tee]

when the posts pop up for a bonus if you choose not to post it it still counts as one of your 5 for 12 hours. if i get a pop up for the brown belt and this is my 5th for 12 hours, but i know i'm going to get the black belt, too, i'd rather post the black belt. i don't have the chance to post the black belt, though, because if i skip posting the brown belt it still counts.

[JAS0643]

when the posts pop up for a bonus if you choose not to post it it still counts as one of your 5 for 12 hours. if i get a pop up for the brown belt and this is my 5th for 12 hours, but i know i'm going to get the black belt, too, i'd rather post the black belt. i don't have the chance to post the black belt, though, because if i skip posting the brown belt it still counts.

If you click on the x instead of the check mark you can keep clicking till you get to the belt you want to post.

[ridgie247]

Jas I see your point and understand that FT is not like the other games where they say that darn unmentionable word and a person gets nothing. My initial thought was sometimes I'd get none sometimes I'd get up to the full 72% which was still pretty awesome because we didn't have it before. I understand now that this being FT they would never do that and will always get something as we harvest.

But it would seem since they haven't changed the wording that we will still get something as we harvest, but maybe a % of the %.

For example a 2 day crop at the highest belt 72%
1000 fields yields 1360 crops versus 1720
and it being a 2 day crop at the highest dan nets you 50% of the 72%

To simplify all of this they had to use all the same numbers for the rank itself but the actual extra boxes you receive as you harvest may depend on the harvest time of the item. My examples before may be way off and not go all the way down to 2.5% but maybe the same percentage is the same as how we gained the belts too but my head hurts still from the 12 hour thing don't wants to do any more maths.

But I like your way better. And making it more complicated gives Oopsy something to talk about and for Grumpa to see if I made any errors.

[maggiel29]

Im impressed that the peeps at slashkey have taken into account the wows of the worlds financial markets and come up with this belts thing ....basicaly they are flooding the market with unearned crops and thus xps so a new starter can bounce up to a good level in a few days its down side is that now i have 10000 tomatoes in my store and no one wants them at the market except Bob ...cos they click on a belt link from a friend and they get a weeks supply gratis therefore they dont plant them and i have to get a lower price for my goods but the danger is once everyone has make it to top dan level the the supply of belts will dry up and the market will crash and most peeps will be maxed on the levels or is this a ploy to make the plots produce twice the crops hence you need to plant less to get the same amount giving you more room to decorate which is fine but as most peeps have decs n trees turned off so nobody see all the hard work ive put into the designs of my farms
it will be fun to see what happens over the next few weeks i hope the banks of the world are watching they may get some ideas

I think they are hoping the layering/stacking of crops will stop - with the manure spreader and the belt bonuses we get a lot more crops once we are at the top. I STILL cant get enough tomatoes or onions though and the canned tuna, and sheep and llama textile roll production are too slow: (

[StoneFace]

I don't know about that. If they wanted it to stop, they would be able to do that a lot easier than making codes for all the new stuff.

There are a lot of the crops which I simply do not plant because none of my facilities use them. The numerous wineries and cellars I have, however, require a lot of grapes. They are not gifted, but staggered fields produce all I need. The only plus so far is the fruit trees. Since I limit my trees and don't layer them and crowd everything.... I can only get so much fruit. But the new belt-Dan stuff has helped. n

Now we see what the future will bring with the "chance" at getting some extra.

I would rather have more farms than belts.


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[maggiel29]

Hmm you may be right StoneFace - I DO wish they would make some items giftable - or exchange some for things we need. I dont need the Farm Implements but I DO need - like you - grapes, and also onions, Sheep Wool, Canned Tuna. I have enough Tuna FISH - I cant produce the cans fast enough. And now the new facilities use Llama and Sheep wool textile rolls I cant keep up with them - despite having 4 wool sheds.

[beautysmom]

Good grief--now the gift ingredients system is all buggered up--this morning, I could send my friends ingredients every three hours (as the original post for that function states), it's been four, and I just got told I can only send an ingredient gift every 12 hours..... Are they EVER going to sort out the problems they created with the original implementation of the belt system? :(

[Duck Duck Goose]

I think they are hoping the layering/stacking of crops will stop - with the manure spreader and the belt bonuses we get a lot more crops once we are at the top. I STILL cant get enough tomatoes or onions though and the canned tuna, and sheep and llama textile roll production are too slow: (

Fortunaltly, the llamas and sheep are the only animals we can buy at will in the store, so maybe you ought to buy more wool sheds and wool animals...

I have 9 full wool sheds of both animals and 8 textile mills - all running at 100% capacity in all items - not just the llama and sheep wool rolls.

Just step it up a notch. Dont you watch mythbusters?
The famous line they use is:
"Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing".

I have 9 of most buildings i have but not all. Im self sufficient and have all of everything i need, except for the gift only items

[JAS0643]

Jas I see your point and understand that FT is not like the other games where they say that darn unmentionable word and a person gets nothing. My initial thought was sometimes I'd get none sometimes I'd get up to the full 72% which was still pretty awesome because we didn't have it before. I understand now that this being FT they would never do that and will always get something as we harvest.

But it would seem since they haven't changed the wording that we will still get something as we harvest, but maybe a % of the %.

For example a 2 day crop at the highest belt 72%
1000 fields yields 1360 crops versus 1720
and it being a 2 day crop at the highest dan nets you 50% of the 72%

To simplify all of this they had to use all the same numbers for the rank itself but the actual extra boxes you receive as you harvest may depend on the harvest time of the item. My examples before may be way off and not go all the way down to 2.5% but maybe the same percentage is the same as how we gained the belts too but my head hurts still from the 12 hour thing don't wants to do any more maths.

But I like your way better. And making it more complicated gives Oopsy something to talk about and for Grumpa to see if I made any errors.

I don't understand why you think a 2 hour crops has less of a chance of getting an extra box then a 4 day crop does. That has neither been said or hinted at anywhere on the forum by the developers. The percent chance you have of getting an extra box is stated in the first post of this thread and based on the belt you have. If the time it took to grow the crop factored in the developers would have given different figures for the different grow times. If you harvest a field of raspberries you have a 72% chance of getting an extra box if you have the dan 6th degree belt and if you harvest cotton you have a 72% chance of getting an extra box when you harvest a field it is that simple. The time it takes to grow has nothing to do with the "chance" of getting an extra box. If like you say a 2 hour crop is less of a chance they would not say it is a 72% chance they would say it is an x% chance. I have seen no evidence that you do not get close to the full percent or even more then the full percent you are at when you harvest and I have been watching the numbers when I harvest. If the developers had set it up the way you are thinking they would be lying to us about what the chance is of getting an extra box is.

[max_river]

i know dev have a hard job but you would think they would come out and explain to us better how it all works. we are left to guess how it works. also it would nice to know when you got an extra box

[JAS0643]

Here are some figures to show what I have been saying about how much extra you get. I just harvested purple grapes 2 farms of them and looked at them as I moved through the belts.

I needed 49 fields to reach the brown belt so for those 49 fields I had a 22% chance of getting an extra box. I harvested the fields and had 11 extra boxes. 11/49=.2245 so that is 22.45% extra. Now lets take the 49 and multiple that by 22% and see what we get. 49*22%=10.78 I should get 10.78 extra boxes I got 11.

Then I needed more grapes then left on the farm to get the next box so I harvested the rest of the farm with a 28% chance of getting an extra box. I harvested 972 fields got 272 extra boxes. 272/972=.2798 so that is 27.98% extra. 972*28%=274.12 I should get 274.12 extra boxes I got 272.

Then I went to the next farm and I needed to harvest 252 grapes to get to the next belt so I still had a 28% chance of getting an extra box, after harvesting the 252 grapes I had an extra 73 boxes. 73/252=.2897 so that is 28.97% extra. 252*28%=70.56 I should get 70.56 extra boxes I got 73.

Now I needed more grapes then I had left to get the next belt so I harvest the rest of the farm. With this bunch I had a 36% chance of getting an extra box. That was 739 fields I got 272 extra boxes. 272/739=.3681 so that is 36.81% extra. 793*36%=266.04 I should get 266.04 extra boxes I got 272.

As you can see each and every time I got the percent of extra crops for the belt I was at if I took the percent for that belt and multiplied it by the number of fields I harvested. Although the developers have used the word "chance" in their description of the reward from what I have seen there really isn't much "chance" about it you will get the extra % for the harvest based on your belt. So if you are at 72% and harvest 1000 fields you will get 720 +/- a few each time you harvest. Just for a little more information I did not reload the game at anytime during the harvesting the game just automatically switched to the new percent.

[max_river]

that does make a lot sence but it is kind of hard for someone who you hire to harvest to know if they got anything. sorry for my spelling it sucks

[JAS0643]

that does make a lot sence but it is kind of hard for someone who you hire to harvest to know if they got anything. sorry for my spelling it sucks

The people you hire to harvest get 10% of the fields they harvest or 20% if they are fertilized that has been in the game for about a year now and has not changed. They do not get a percent of the extra boxes you get for your belt only you get them.

[max_river]

i must of read it wrong i thought they had a chance to get one to

[Original Tee]

If you click on the x instead of the check mark you can keep clicking till you get to the belt you want to post.

no you cannot - if you x out of the posting it counts as one of your 5 for the 12 hours.

[tarawa]

no you cannot - if you x out of the posting it counts as one of your 5 for the 12 hours.

No..I went through all 4 useable 4 day crops,and hit x except for the 5th degree dan on each.I believe that is 32 post I simply x'd out and posted the final 4.

[max_river]

i have hit the x many times til i get to the ones i want to post and i still get to post 5 of them

[JAS0643]

no you cannot - if you x out of the posting it counts as one of your 5 for the 12 hours.

When the pop up comes up telling you you have reached the black belt in potatoes post ... there is a check mark and an x you can choose which one to click on. If you click on that x it will not count as one of the 5 you can post, but if you click on the check mark then skip posting or click on the x in the posting it does count as one of your five. Click on the first x you still get the belt but it doesn't give you the wall posting to post.

[max_river]

When the pop up comes up telling you you have reached the black belt in potatoes post ... there is a check mark and an x you can choose which one to click on. If you click on that x it will not count as one of the 5 you can post, but if you click on the check mark then skip posting or click on the x in the posting it does count as one of your five. Click on the first x you still get the belt but it doesn't give you the wall posting to post.

you are right

[lildottiedo5@tds.net]

where is the rabbit hutch. and when I ask you a question I get some one else s answer
whats up with that? am enjoyig the belts dont under stand the word dan or 1st dan

[Tony D]

where is the rabbit hutch. and when I ask you a question I get some one else s answer
whats up with that? am enjoyig the belts dont under stand the word dan or 1st danHi the rabbit hutch is in the store in the "Buildings" section. The first post in this thread may help explaining how the belts work.

[Sandie Angel]

Hello Dev. Team:

I don't know what's happenning, I have been planting tons and tons of stuff ALL DAY LONG, and harvesting them ALL DAY LONG, I have not got even one notification on my belt levels no matter what I have harvested. Why is that? I planted these things on a large farm where the fields covered the whole farm so each time I harvested must have been over 2,000 fields (because my fields are fertilized) and yet I have not got even one notification on ALL the things that I have harvested. Not even a brown belt or yellow belt or whatever, the words just didn't appear on my screen no matter what I was harvesting. This is not right I feel like I'm being ripped off for something. Please look into it to see why I'm not getting any notiifications on the belt levels.

BTW... In case you want to take look at my farms I have planted these crops on farm 5 which is the whole farm of fields and some in farm 2. but no belts levels were mntioned. I've planted many things, there were so many I've lost counts now. I need someone to look at my farms to see why I'm not getting the notifications when harvesting. Hope this will be resolved very soon.

Thank you!

Sande Angel :(

[Original Tee]

When the pop up comes up telling you you have reached the black belt in potatoes post ... there is a check mark and an x you can choose which one to click on. If you click on that x it will not count as one of the 5 you can post, but if you click on the check mark then skip posting or click on the x in the posting it does count as one of your five. Click on the first x you still get the belt but it doesn't give you the wall posting to post.

it hasn't been working for me, but i'll try again today and be sure to hit the x on the pop up. hope it works.

update: i know what is happening now. i just harvested and x'd out of 2 posts and posted 2 of them then i got the no chance to post pop up. that was only 4 pop ups so i looked at my profile to see that the last time i posted was 10 hours ago. i guess it's been working differently for me because i don't always wait 12 hours to harvest my farms. so i had not hit my 5 posts in 12 hours until i posted the 2 out of 4 this morning. it makes sense now.

[Sandie Angel]

OKay, I woke up this morning with a much clearer head. Now I can see from the "buying" section of the store that my belts are listed with the crops I was planting yesterday; and it also listed how many more I need to harvest to get to the next level, but I'm stll wondering why I didn't get those words that were supposedly appear on the screen and then fades away to tell me the level that I was in. I hope this problem will be fixed today. Thanks!

Sandie Angel :)

[Grumpa]

Hello Dev. Team:

I don't know what's happenning, I have been planting tons and tons of stuff ALL DAY LONG, and harvesting them ALL DAY LONG, I have not got even one notification on my belt levels no matter what I have harvested. Why is that? I planted these things on a large farm where the fields covered the whole farm so each time I harvested must have been over 2,000 fields (because my fields are fertilized) and yet I have not got even one notification on ALL the things that I have harvested. Not even a brown belt or yellow belt or whatever, the words just didn't appear on my screen no matter what I was harvesting. This is not right I feel like I'm being ripped off for something. Please look into it to see why I'm not getting any notiifications on the belt levels.

BTW... In case you want to take look at my farms I have planted these crops on farm 5 which is the whole farm of fields and some in farm 2. but no belts levels were mntioned. I've planted many things, there were so many I've lost counts now. I need someone to look at my farms to see why I'm not getting the notifications when harvesting. Hope this will be resolved very soon.

Thank you!

Sande Angel :(

The fertilized does not increase the number of fields for the belt count, it only increases the yield, what type of belt is showing for the seeds you are planting. that will let you know if you should be getting a notification or not.

[Sandie Angel]

The fertilized does not increase the number of fields for the belt count, it only increases the yield, what type of belt is showing for the seeds you are planting. that will let you know if you should be getting a notification or not.



Oh I was lanting some short time crops, i.e. from 2 to 12 hrs. crop. and some which I had planted some longer time crops some days ago and I was harvesting them too at the same time. At least had gone through about 10 types of crops, but I have not received any notification, nor was there any pop ups or words fade out that notify me of my levels for the cropos. Only now this morning when I thought of checking the store section then I notice the color of the belts were there on those crops that I have havested.

About the fertilized fields. One field should be counted as 2 because once the field is fertilized it should be an extra count. At least that's what I was told about fertilized fields. So my whole farm of fields should be multiplied by 2, which makes it over 2,000 fields whenever I harvest a crop. I haven't tried yet today, so I hope today I will get my notification.

Thanks for your response!!

Sandie Angel :)

[Double T Dude Ranch]

The belts only count the square....whether fertilized or not. The fertilization affects the yield of the crops that you harvest, and does not count towards the belts.

[barbara nixon]

i'm still confused..what determines the 1,000,000 coins? i've posted my belts 3 times and i'm done for 12 hrs..i've never got to post 5 times..sorry to keep harping on this but it would nice to know how they get to the amount..thanks..still like the game over all the others...

[sweetergame]

When the bonuses first came out I thought they were a good idea, but then the 12 hours came into effect and I'm confused. For nearly 72 hours I could not click to help people get their bonuses. The response was that I had already reached 1 million in coins. Absolute rubbish. Today I clicked on 1 bonus link and it worked, then when I clicked on another link, I was told I'd reached the 1 million limit. What exactly are the rules?

Are the Ingredients and Bonuses linked together to create the limit of 1 million every 12 hours, or are they separate. Please clarify.

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

When the bonuses first came out I thought they were a good idea, but then the 12 hours came into effect and I'm confused. For nearly 72 hours I could not click to help people get their bonuses. The response was that I had already reached 1 million in coins. Absolute rubbish. Today I clicked on 1 bonus link and it worked, then when I clicked on another link, I was told I'd reached the 1 million limit. What exactly are the rules?

Are the Ingredients and Bonuses linked together to create the limit of 1 million every 12 hours, or are they separate. Please clarify.

The beginning of this thread does explain that the ingredient requests are separate from the belt bonus requests

[JAS0643]

i'm still confused..what determines the 1,000,000 coins? i've posted my belts 3 times and i'm done for 12 hrs..i've never got to post 5 times..sorry to keep harping on this but it would nice to know how they get to the amount..thanks..still like the game over all the others...


The million coins is figured up by looking at what you have done in the last 12 hours. It will take the amount you get when you click on someone's post and the amount you get when someone clicks on your post add them together and if it is at the 1,000,000 mark you get no bonus if it is less you get a bonus. If you have reached the 1,000,000 mark for the last 12 hours you will need to wait till you drop below the 1,000,000 mark for the last 12 hours. That could be 12 hours or less depending on how long it has been since you last clicked on a bonus or someone clicked on your post.

[sweetergame]

Okay, now this makes sense, thank you!

[twosmiths]

Yesterday I had a neighbour over to harvest all 9 farms. I posted the first crop - peas - that went to brown belt, but every subsequent harvest at the brown/black/dan belt level did not offer me the option of posting for it. I lost the opportunity for bonus crops on everything. Today the posting system is working again, but I have passed all the posting levels for many crops. Also, I don't understand the "extra box" notion - does this mean that I have a _% chance of harvesting 3 boxes instead of 2 on a fertilized crop with the belt increases? I also am unhappy about the 12 hr cut off, I often can only click on one or two of my neighbour's postings for bonus crops before my quota is filled, and when I go back 12 hrs later for something else the offers have expired. Is there any way of at least removing the expiry time on these postings? Last note - when, oh when, are we going to be able to make pecan pie? I am hoarding my pecans and whipped cream in anticipation. Thanks, by the way, for increasing our storage space :)

[Teresa AndreychukFarmer T]

I keep getting the message of "over 1,000,000" in a 12 hour period. I have waited 12 hours, 18 hours, 24 hours, etc. and still not able to receive anything; the person who has the belt bonus gets their stuff, but not me. I am very frustrated. Teresa AndreychukFarmerT aka Untwisted T

[Taz D]

I keep getting the message of "over 1,000,000" in a 12 hour period. I have waited 12 hours, 18 hours, 24 hours, etc. and still not able to receive anything; the person who has the belt bonus gets their stuff, but not me. I am very frustrated. Teresa AndreychukFarmerT aka Untwisted T
The 1,000,000 coins is for both your own posts and for helping others. So if you posted and received enough to make the 1,000,000 coins then you can not receive any from helping others.

[Original Tee]

i'm still confused..what determines the 1,000,000 coins? i've posted my belts 3 times and i'm done for 12 hrs..i've never got to post 5 times..sorry to keep harping on this but it would nice to know how they get to the amount..thanks..still like the game over all the others...

i figured out this morning why i was not getting to post 5 times. i got to post 2 times this morning and i looked at my profile and realized i had posted 3 times 10 hours before so that totaled my 5 times in 12 hours. i waited another 2 hours and was able to post 3 more times. it's an accumulation of all posts done in the past 12 hours.

[Deanna J. Lloyd]

:( Having read through various parts of this thread over the past several days, I've been able to piece together bits and pieces of how the belt/dan system is supposed to work. So far, I believe the following rules apply (or so it seems from what I've read):

Fertilization has no effect on the count
The 12-hours/1,000,000 coin limit applies to the aggregate of what we send and receive
The 12-hours is a "floating" time period, i.e., the system computes what you've received in the 12 hours immediately preceding the moment you click, and THAT IS THE 12 HOURS THAT COUNTS.
The number of harvests required for each belt/dan variess from crop to crop.
No one knows where they stand on gift trees unless they keep a log or list (which I am doing)

Oh, and there is (or isn't) some relationship between the regular gifts we send and/or the ingredient requests we respond to and the thresholds for the belt system.

Have I got it right so far?!! :(

WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR THE DEVS TO COMPILE A SIMPLE LIST SUCH AS THE ABOVE TO PROVIDE US WITH CONCRETE INFORMATION ON WHICH TO BASE OUR DECISIONS?!!! (YES, I KNOW I'M SHOUTING, BUT I'M GETTING VERY FRUSTRATED!!!)

And one more thing -- If I earn several belts/dans because I harvest a large field of a crop, does it count against my limit if I click the green tick on each successive level? If it does, that would be useful information to know -- although the timing of the notices makes the decision a dicey one. You don't know whether or not you're going to make the next level until some time (usually a couple of minutes) after you finish harvesting a crop. If you have already checked the red X, there goes your "chance" to earn an extra bonus!!! I think if you wait, you will be given all the posts you could make, but then you have to remember how high your last one was lest you click the red X on it too. :confused:

Will someone PLEASE sit down with Raul and come up with a single list that explains in simple terms the rules governing the system?! Surely the devs know how they've designed it to work. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to develop this list. After all, I'm not a rocket scientist, and I have been able to glean enough reliable(?) information about how the system works to make the above list. :rolleyes: Just think what someone who "knows" the system could achieve!!! And we could dispense with these pages and pages and pages of questions, many unanswered!!

And MAYBE, just maybe, Farm 10 and the new levels would appear. :)

PLEASE?!! :)

[JAS0643]

Deanna the gifts and ingredients have nothing to do with the belt bonus you can receive as many gifts as you want in a day and ingredients are 1,000,000 worth in the last 12 hours. Now on the do I or don’t I click the check to post, if the item is in the store you can leave the pop up there and open the store to see how many more harvest you need to reach the next belt. Then you will know if you will get another belt so you can then close the store and click the check mark or x.

[Merkner]

Additional levels are needed. I hit 210 and find the game has less challenge without more levels to obtain.

I really have less reason to play the game now.

[kahra01]

Deanna the gifts and ingredients have nothing to do with the belt bonus you can receive as many gifts as you want in a day and ingredients are 1,000,000 worth in the last 12 hours. Now on the do I or don’t I click the check to post, if the item is in the store you can leave the pop up there and open the store to see how many more harvest you need to reach the next belt. Then you will know if you will get another belt so you can then close the store and click the check mark or x.

Indeed Jas that does work in theory.. unless of course you are harvesting a lot of different things. If you go and check on the status of carrots for instance, whilst someone is harvesting.. they then move on to something else and all of a sudden the pop up for the next item goes over the top of it and you lost the original one, resulting in you missing the belt for that crop which happened to me and i felt real ripped off coz i was in the same boat.. do i post the brown if a black is only going to pop up? at the end of the day though... its all free bonuses so I dont complain.. just plan it better by getting my husband to do each thing one at a time until that particular belt is going no further. Im sure it drives him nuts but at least I dont miss it then.. not that you can do that if you hire a stranger hahaha :)

[nanaleanna]

I, too, would like some kind of list or status report telling me where I stand in giving and receiving bonuses. I also think it really isn't fair to with hold a bonus because somebody is getting too much. The work was still done, so the bonus should be given. Tonight, I noticed that when I reached a brown or black belt, I wasn't even given the choice to post, presumably because I had already reached the 1 million coin limit.

[Indigo Rose]

Well it's about as clear as mud.:D

It seems it is determined that I have had my lot for the 12 hours but still sends to the requesting party. I sort of get how it is working but it's a bit of a mess as far as I am concerned. If we put the effort in to help others we should be rewarded. I am getting mighty choosy on what I post and what I will click on if I am looking to receive anything. No clicking willy nilly now.

I don't like to whinge because Raul is doing a terrific job but this really is one thing that needs looking at and a better explanation given.

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

I, too, would like some kind of list or status report telling me where I stand in giving and receiving bonuses. I also think it really isn't fair to with hold a bonus because somebody is getting too much. The work was still done, so the bonus should be given. Tonight, I noticed that when I reached a brown or black belt, I wasn't even given the choice to post, presumably because I had already reached the 1 million coin limit.


No nana, I don't think it has anything to do with reaching your 1 mill limit. It all seems very random to me as to when the pops up appear. I have never been anywhere near the limit purely because not many of my friends post, and I too hardly post, yet I still don't always get the pop up.

[Valdoe]

I can see a great delay on any future updates.. because if I was being a fly on the wall I can see Raul and his Dev scratching their heads wondering what they can do with this Disaster "belt system".. first flooding our walls, limits and people not know what they entitle... Raul its too hard.... can it and move on.

I been at the top limit of levels for so long.. there is really no challenges for us..

You need to move on and improving the game...
increase levels at least by 20-50
make things dear to buy utilities with farm coins or till you reach certain exp points not levels.

been playing game nearly 3 years and with no challenges I am getting bored with just seeding, harvesting, plowing, filling up my facilities. We need challenges.. Levels. Use of more new crops.

The aim of this game is not to make it easier but make us make desicions what crop will i do next etc. My problem have to much coins ($4 trillion) exp (18 mil)

Just an Idea.. once you reach say level 210 to get your next utilities must have x amount exp points
and the cost eg. $5 mill each
but also cost us say 3-5 mill exp points taken away from your total.. ( taking away your exp should not lower your levels but harder to buy your next item)

This will slow us down making more interesting and more challenging. I willing to spend real money but not just to keep doing the same old thing.. seeding, harvesting, plowing, filling up my facilities.

AND DONT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AS FARMVILE ---- DONT MAKE US AS NEIGHBOURS TO SEND US THINGS TO CONTINUE PLAYING..

Ball is in your court Raul... now score a touch down.

[lildottiedo5@tds.net]

more info on Belt System

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

I can see a great delay on any future updates.. because if I was being a fly on the wall I can see Raul and his Dev scratching their heads wondering what they can do with this Disaster "belt system".. first flooding our walls, limits and people not know what they entitle... Raul its too hard.... can it and move on.

I been at the top limit of levels for so long.. there is really no challenges for us..

You need to move on and improving the game...
increase levels at least by 20-50
make things dear to buy utilities with farm coins or till you reach certain exp points not levels.

been playing game nearly 3 years and with no challenges I am getting bored with just seeding, harvesting, plowing, filling up my facilities. We need challenges.. Levels. Use of more new crops.

The aim of this game is not to make it easier but make us make desicions what crop will i do next etc. My problem have to much coins ($4 trillion) exp (18 mil)

Just an Idea.. once you reach say level 210 to get your next utilities must have x amount exp points
and the cost eg. $5 mill each
but also cost us say 3-5 mill exp points taken away from your total.. ( taking away your exp should not lower your levels but harder to buy your next item)

This will slow us down making more interesting and more challenging. I willing to spend real money but not just to keep doing the same old thing.. seeding, harvesting, plowing, filling up my facilities.

AND DONT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AS FARMVILE ---- DONT MAKE US AS NEIGHBOURS TO SEND US THINGS TO CONTINUE PLAYING..

Ball is in your court Raul... now score a touch down.

Farm Town has never really been ALL about challenges, it's what you put into it yourself that counts, like being creative with your farms instead of seeing them just as a means to earn lots of coins and xp.

Why not move on from earning coins and xp? forget the seeding, harvesting and plowing for a while and maybe decorate more? We now have competitions, why not work towards those? So make your own challenges don't rely on the devs to make them for you.

As for new levels, I personally don't get all excited about them, they are after all just numbers.

As for the belts, no they are not a disaster, a little confusing yes, but not a disaster. The pop ups have become less and there is a lot to be gained from them once you have all your dans.

As the game has progressed, it seems everyone just wants more and more all the time, not stopping to think about how much is involved keeping a never ending supply of new releases, updates and challenges going. If the devs were to release everything at the rate people want, it will require releasing more and more cash items, which will result in more complaining.

I am also one of those people who wants more and more too, but I never come on here to complain about it, because I am totally aware the devs do what they can, I can't expect them to do anymore than that. So I have learned to amuse myself with what is available in the game. It's all about being imaginative ;)

[Grammy 11]

How will I know if I received the happy bonus, the one for which I become eligible every time I harvest? The odds go up with each higher belt/dan but so far I have seen no official answer to that so I don't know if I have been lucky. How will I know what to do come tax time???

[Jean's Farm]

OK...just get rid of that rotten, horrible, stupid, nasty, aggravating, annoying, bothersome, irksome, inconvenient, irritating, vexing, disturbing million coin limit!!!!!!!!!!! (And, yes I used my thesaurus. :D )

I clicked this morning after a more than 12 hour time between the previous click. I got ONE (count them ONE) click before the message came up that I got nothing cause I have reached my million limit in 12 hours?????????????? I don't think one click getting me 347 cotton put me over the million!!!!!!

And I have noticed that some friends post every bonus they can get......I only post the bonuses I want to get the crops on. I don't need flowers or fruit or lumber. So I click on cotton, wheat, sugar....things that run out fast.

Maybe limititing the amount of bonuses we can post in 24 hours would stop a lot of the postings. Make people play smarter and think about what they need instead of being greedy and wanting it all.

[1fritz]

Farm Town has never really been ALL about challenges, it's what you put into it yourself that counts, like being creative with your farms instead of seeing them just as a means to earn lots of coins and xp.

Why not move on from earning coins and xp? forget the seeding, harvesting and plowing for a while and maybe decorate more? We now have competitions, why not work towards those? So make your own challenges don't rely on the devs to make them for you.

As for new levels, I personally don't get all excited about them, they are after all just numbers.

As for the belts, no they are not a disaster, a little confusing yes, but not a disaster. The pop ups have become less and there is a lot to be gained from them once you have all your dans.

As the game has progressed, it seems everyone just wants more and more all the time, not stopping to think about how much is involved keeping a never ending supply of new releases, updates and challenges going. If the devs were to release everything at the rate people want, it will require releasing more and more cash items, which will result in more complaining.

I am also one of those people who wants more and more too, but I never come on here to complain about it, because I am totally aware the devs do what they can, I can't expect them to do anymore than that. So I have learned to amuse myself with what is available in the game. It's all about being imaginative ;)

Well said Oopsy!!! I agree! :D

[farmer apples]

I agree Jean....my newsfeed also full of brown belt flowers and other items I don't need....wish people would box a bit clever with their postings! :(

[Sandie Angel]

Honestly...people are so opinionated, even when so many good things are happening with Farm Town. I, for one, must congratulate Raul on all his hard work and to making this game the most long-lasting and enjoyable game in FB!! I don't mind all the things on the wall, I'm even searching for things on the wall which I need and can claim them. What's wrong with this system? At least farm town isn't clumpsy like the other known games which are known for their clumpsiness that we buy a building and then still can't put it up unless we go and send out millions of requests for useless things so we can put up the darn buildings!!

I LOVE Farm Town and the Dev. team's creativity in which to make this game run so smoothly, and so easily played by people of all ages. Other games pressure you to have neighbours in order to send out your requests to get the useless stuff that you need for your buildings. When you buy a building in Farm Town, it is IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE for your use and for you to make coins. The posts on the home feeds wall are the cleverest thing. It's about time the Farm Town has some posts on the wall. I'm sick of seeing other games' useles posts on my home feeds page already. It is refreshing to see farm town has finally so cleverly made its way to have posts on the home feeds' wall.

I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT FARM TOWN!!!!!

Sandie Angel :)

[Valdoe]

Farm Town has never really been ALL about challenges, it's what you put into it yourself that counts, like being creative with your farms instead of seeing them just as a means to earn lots of coins and xp.

Why not move on from earning coins and xp? forget the seeding, harvesting and plowing for a while and maybe decorate more? We now have competitions, why not work towards those? So make your own challenges don't rely on the devs to make them for you.

As for new levels, I personally don't get all excited about them, they are after all just numbers.

As for the belts, no they are not a disaster, a little confusing yes, but not a disaster. The pop ups have become less and there is a lot to be gained from them once you have all your dans.

As the game has progressed, it seems everyone just wants more and more all the time, not stopping to think about how much is involved keeping a never ending supply of new releases, updates and challenges going. If the devs were to release everything at the rate people want, it will require releasing more and more cash items, which will result in more complaining.

I am also one of those people who wants more and more too, but I never come on here to complain about it, because I am totally aware the devs do what they can, I can't expect them to do anymore than that. So I have learned to amuse myself with what is available in the game. It's all about being imaginative ;)
I am glad and agree with you Anyone can play the Farmtown the way they want but as a common male I gone pass the let see how pretty can I make my farm..

That is why this so great.. I have gone through stages and found hours of enjoyment.

In the beginning it was who had the most creative farm and with limitations of having no money to spend because you wanted save for that mansion that cost 1 million dollars
Then the next stage was a second farm with more decorative stuff to use.
Next came a change where more farms and new utilities followed by more farms and power tools.

Some like me are enjoying the game because They challenging themselves.
I developed a spreadsheet that told me when crops where due, what crops I need to harvest to ensure I could keep my factories going.. and NO, mine factories are not all always full. Working out what products gives me the best exp and $ amounts because of limited cheese production etc. Why use up valuable cheese on a product that gives you a few coins and 1 exp where you use the same cheese and get 4 exp and 100 coins. Can you see my challenge?

I am not play this game to have the highest exp or coins otherwise I wouldnt spend real cash on it. The challenge of the game for me how efficient can I run ALL my farms and facilities for maximum profit and points.

Please do not get me wrong.. I agree with you on all points if that the way you want to play your game.

I love this game because really it the only game that the Raul and dev listen to their players and come up with things that will make everyone happy.

I am not complaining but pointing out how I feel and hope I am giving suggestion or an idea to improve the game.

Personally I hate the idea of people getting free gifts for my hard work and effort just by clicking on a post. <evil> I don't like sharing my spoils, that why I like the work markets and sell and buy markets and not the free giveaways.

[Grumpa]

I agree Jean....my newsfeed also full of brown belt flowers and other items I don't need....wish people would box a bit clever with their postings! :(

while you may not need the flowers, some other neighbor of the poster may need them.

As has been said before the belt posting is only going to last till the 7th den is gotten. Then there will be no more posts of belts.

So grin and bear it, just click on game feed and see if there is anything you can use, Don't begruge other players from something they may need.

The bonus are nice but they will stop and then people will complain about not getting them.

[Grammy 11]

while you may not need the flowers, some other neighbor of the poster may need them.

As has been said before the belt posting is only going to last till the 7th den is gotten. Then there will be no more posts of belts.

So grin and bear it, just click on game feed and see if there is anything you can use, Don't begruge other players from something they may need.

The bonus are nice but they will stop and then people will complain about not getting them.

Hear, hear........

[Farmgirl_Su]

Belts are a bonus, if you dont like them dont click them..if you dont want them on your wall just close them. I like the idea,I don't understand it, but I love getting the extra's so Thank you!!!

[LadyLen1]

I personally am so bored with this game ..it seems the devs have run out of creativeness and now just grasp at anything they can to appease some of the players. I appreciate many of the new items like outfits although rather pricey. I have nearly 3500.00 invested in this game and hate to lose that but if it doesn't get back to more interaction less BIG business and all the belt bonus etc stuff I will just go back to other games. Out of 155 of my friends 78 play ft all are bored and feel it is just ridicoulus to have nite clubs, sports arenas etc this is farmtown not industrial nation. it just stinks anymore. Might pay devs to poll players.

[kosp41302]

I am eagerly awaiting the new update- i already have some ideas for farm 10. I can't wait to see what the developers have in store for us next.

[tarawa]

I personally am so bored with this game ..it seems the devs have run out of creativeness and now just grasp at anything they can to appease some of the players. I appreciate many of the new items like outfits although rather pricey. I have nearly 3500.00 invested in this game and hate to lose that but if it doesn't get back to more interaction less BIG business and all the belt bonus etc stuff I will just go back to other games. Out of 155 of my friends 78 play ft all are bored and feel it is just ridicoulus to have nite clubs, sports arenas etc this is farmtown not industrial nation. it just stinks anymore. Might pay devs to poll players.

I will go ahead and give a thumbs up to the game and the new items then.I like the direction it is going,and think they have done a much better job than most FB games.I haven't spent $3500 :eek: ,lol,and still find the game as fun as it was 6-8 months ago.

[earlgray]

I personally am so bored with this game ..it seems the devs have run out of creativeness and now just grasp at anything they can to appease some of the players. I appreciate many of the new items like outfits although rather pricey. I have nearly 3500.00 invested in this game and hate to lose that but if it doesn't get back to more interaction less BIG business and all the belt bonus etc stuff I will just go back to other games. Out of 155 of my friends 78 play ft all are bored and feel it is just ridicoulus to have nite clubs, sports arenas etc this is farmtown not industrial nation. it just stinks anymore. Might pay devs to poll players.

If you are so bored with the game, why don't you suggest something that you think would make it better?

[Grammy 11]

I mention things I think could improve the game. However, I love it and I am in AWE of the developers. This has kept my interest longer than any other game; this from one who didn't sleep so she could try to kill mice every 15 minutes through the night!!! Farm Town doesn't have to please everyone; this old lady is on your side!!!

[bagoshen]

while you may not need the flowers, some other neighbor of the poster may need them.

As has been said before the belt posting is only going to last till the 7th den is gotten. Then there will be no more posts of belts.

So grin and bear it, just click on game feed and see if there is anything you can use, Don't begruge other players from something they may need.

The bonus are nice but they will stop and then people will complain about not getting them.
Well said Grumpa, they should stop complaining and enjoy the game.
Raul you always bring joy to my life with the new updates. :) :D

[LadyLen1]

@earl gray my suggestion is getting away from "Industrial Nation" and back to farming. And yes I have spent that amount of money I have one paypal account strictly for Farmtown and I play no other games. I am disabled unable to get out in the 'real' world much so I play farmtown at least 14 out of 24 hrs each day. The more that the devs come out with the further way from the original game. I want to plant harvest and sell crops I don't want to earn belts or dans or whatever. I am a college graduate with a masters in sociology so I figure I am somewhat intelligent but for the life of me cannot figure out what some of this has to do with farming as in "FARMTOWN". Just taking this open forum at its word as to make suggestions and or views of the game. Please devs get us back to the game.

[Original Tee]

@earl gray my suggestion is getting away from "Industrial Nation" and back to farming. And yes I have spent that amount of money I have one paypal account strictly for Farmtown and I play no other games. I am disabled unable to get out in the 'real' world much so I play farmtown at least 14 out of 24 hrs each day. The more that the devs come out with the further way from the original game. I want to plant harvest and sell crops I don't want to earn belts or dans or whatever. I am a college graduate with a masters in sociology so I figure I am somewhat intelligent but for the life of me cannot figure out what some of this has to do with farming as in "FARMTOWN". Just taking this open forum at its word as to make suggestions and or views of the game. Please devs get us back to the game.

i have to say that i love the direction this game is taking. we have a variety of things we can do. one day i can work all my neighbor's facilities. another day i can go to the market and work for anyone who will hire me. i can redecorate a farm (made so much easier by the way we now can take multiple items out of storage). i can empty my facilities and get excited over all the millions of coins i have made so i can buy all the great decorations or new buildings. i love the way that we can create a little city on our farms instead of just having farm decorations. i love that we can make more money by putting some of our products into service facilities. i could go on and on about all the things i love about this game. it is the only game i play and yes i have invested real money to get the tools and farm cash facilities that make my playtime more enjoyable. i like the extra crops that i gather from the belt posts and my friends love the ones they get from my posts. i hope the farm town team keeps adding things to the game that give me even more variety of activities. sorry you do not feel the same.

[Inge Jones]

I have been using a good idea for my belt postings. I change the post settings to Me Only. Then when I have finished farming, I go to my profile page and decide which of the bonuses I would most like people to send me. I then copy the link and post it in a new wall post, with the settings set to all my friends. That way I don't get people using up their 12 hour slot to send to me on something when I would have preferred something better.

[Tamblyne]

I have been using a good idea for my belt postings. I change the post settings to Me Only. Then when I have finished farming, I go to my profile page and decide which of the bonuses I would most like people to send me. I then copy the link and post it in a new wall post, with the settings set to all my friends. That way I don't get people using up their 12 hour slot to send to me on something when I would have preferred something better.

I just post all my "game" stuff to my "Game Friends" list only. Takes care of mucking up my wall. Then I go back a couple of times a week and just delete the game posts.

I don't understand how these new things are working, but I really don't care. I don't plan my farming around what I might collect on the feed -- I plant what I want/need and anything that comes from these new features is just gravy.

I'm guessing the "selective clickers" aren't doing it this way.
I click on all my friends' posts when I have time to "work the feed." I don't know what they're looking for or what they want, or if they're like me and it says, "Do you want to post?" and they think, okay, why not? I also post everything -- if I have time -- for the same reason.

I don't understand the "I'm not doing it unless there's something in it for me and I know what it is." The possibility that I might not get something in return isn't a big deal, and when I don't, it's not a huge disappointment, either. I guess the fact that I don't understand how I could be cleaning up on this is working just fine. :-)

[artisanrox]

I don't understand the "I'm not doing it unless there's something in it for me and I know what it is." The possibility that I might not get something in return isn't a big deal, and when I don't, it's not a huge disappointment, either. I guess the fact that I don't understand how I could be cleaning up on this is working just fine. :-)


That's nice that you have all that time to do that. Some don't.

[Oopsy-Bumpty]

@earl gray my suggestion is getting away from "Industrial Nation" and back to farming. And yes I have spent that amount of money I have one paypal account strictly for Farmtown and I play no other games. I am disabled unable to get out in the 'real' world much so I play farmtown at least 14 out of 24 hrs each day. The more that the devs come out with the further way from the original game. I want to plant harvest and sell crops I don't want to earn belts or dans or whatever. I am a college graduate with a masters in sociology so I figure I am somewhat intelligent but for the life of me cannot figure out what some of this has to do with farming as in "FARMTOWN". Just taking this open forum at its word as to make suggestions and or views of the game. Please devs get us back to the game.

You say you want it to go back to farming, but I thought that the facilities were designed to keep the 'farming' even more interesting. We no longer just plow, sow and harvest just to sell at the market, we are growing our crops for a purpose now, which I think is fabulous. So I think the incentive to 'farm' is actually greater than it ever was.

You also have to read a lot of posts to realise that what you dislike about the game, is keeping so many people happy. You don't have to buy facilities, you don't even have to participate in the new belt challenge, everything else you loved about the game is still there

You also said you are taking the forum at it's word and therefore are making a suggestion, but you haven't included your ideas. If you post in suggestions, the devs DO take all ideas into consideration.

[levarti2]

I have been using a good idea for my belt postings. I change the post settings to Me Only. Then when I have finished farming, I go to my profile page and decide which of the bonuses I would most like people to send me. I then copy the link and post it in a new wall post, with the settings set to all my friends. That way I don't get people using up their 12 hour slot to send to me on something when I would have preferred something better.

that sounds like a great idea, but I just recently realized that by changing my "postings" notices as default to just my farm friends ... that sets ALL my photos and status postings also JUST to those people. Facebook doesn't have a privacy setting that allows us to distinguish between games postings, photos and status.

Now I'm selectively choosing who to send each belt/dan notice to every time. Seems there could be an easier way of doing this. I do use my FB page to correspond with close friends and family and really don't like the clutter all these posts create otherwise.

[Tamblyne]

That's nice that you have all that time to do that. Some don't.

I agree that working the facilities takes quite a bit of time, and I don't do that as often as I like. But when you're talking about the new stuff, it's a matter of click and close the tab. It doesn't take any more time to do that than it does to skim through the feed. Actually, I would think it would take more time to evaluate each post to determine if it's worthy of a click.

[levarti2]

i have to say that i love the direction this game is taking. we have a variety of things we can do. one day i can work all my neighbor's facilities. another day i can go to the market and work for anyone who will hire me. i can redecorate a farm (made so much easier by the way we now can take multiple items out of storage). i can empty my facilities and get excited over all the millions of coins i have made so i can buy all the great decorations or new buildings. i love the way that we can create a little city on our farms instead of just having farm decorations. i love that we can make more money by putting some of our products into service facilities. i could go on and on about all the things i love about this game. it is the only game i play and yes i have invested real money to get the tools and farm cash facilities that make my playtime more enjoyable. i like the extra crops that i gather from the belt posts and my friends love the ones they get from my posts. i hope the farm town team keeps adding things to the game that give me even more variety of activities. sorry you do not feel the same.

I wholeheartedly agree Original Tee ... just as in "real life," when I start to get bored with a particular function of the game, I make a change or simply take a break.

Sometimes I set goals for myself (like having 15 days of crops for all facilities before I can load the facilities). Other times, I just have all fields plowed and only empty barns and harvest trees. Also there's days when I just don't want to do any of it. I keep a small, easy spreadsheet that shows me what fields are planted with what and when they'll be ready to harvest. I caretake my husband's place too most of the time, so there's 18 fields to track.

I am looking forward to more farms and especially some more seeds.

Devs, it's been a long time since we've seen new seeds and also I'd like to see more uses for some of the crops we already have (rhubarb pie, etc.)

[Tamblyne]

that sounds like a great idea, but I just recently realized that by changing my "postings" notices as default to just my farm friends ... that sets ALL my photos and status postings also JUST to those people. Facebook doesn't have a privacy setting that allows us to distinguish between games postings, photos and status.

Now I'm selectively choosing who to send each belt/dan notice to every time. Seems there could be an easier way of doing this. I do use my FB page to correspond with close friends and family and really don't like the clutter all these posts create otherwise.

It takes some work in the beginning, but after that it's much easier than selecting multiple people. Put your "Game Friends" on a friends list. Being quite creative, I call mine "Game Friends." ;-) Then, when you post, select the "Game Friends" list, and it will only be visible and available to them, but doesn't change your default settings.

[levarti2]

It takes some work in the beginning, but after that it's much easier than selecting multiple people. Put your "Game Friends" on a friends list. Being quite creative, I call mine "Game Friends." ;-) Then, when you post, select the "Game Friends" list, and it will only be visible and available to them, but doesn't change your default settings.

thanks ... I'll try that.

[jazzyjude]

I agree with Original Tree and levarti2 in playing FarmTown. We need to remember it's only a game and with that said, if you are bored or it's too much, taking a breather away from the game helps. I, personally, love the game and love the interaction with other farmers! I love the fact I can 'grow' the crops to 'produce' goods and being able to 'sell' them. I do the same if I get bored from catching up with my own (9) farms, so that is when I 'plan' ahead with my next group of crops to grow. I've made my own "shopping list", so I can plan how many layers to grow certain crops and then I created a "Crop Schedule" with the times (3 days, 2 days, 12 hrs, etc) and this helps me organize my time with the game. The rest of the time, is visiting friends and see how they set up their farms, help harvest, fish, or whatever, or rearrange my farms for better productions, etc. There is ALWAYS something to do.

Thanks for listening...and Devs, you're doing fantastic and thanks so much for all you do. I agree with more products to make like rhubard pie, choc cream pie, sweet potato pie, mint choc chip ice cream, different clothing items (pants, lingerie, shoes, etc), other bar drinks...the list is endless at this point! Even those wonderful Green Bean casserole with onions! LOL...<3

[caligirl62]

what again is the purpose for these belts?

[Taz D]

what again is the purpose for these belts?
To help you get more crop for the same amount of space.

[squirley]

plz make this work for myspace!! I have both myspace & facebook farms. We have to work twice as hard on myspace & it feels like all the new releases only work for facebook. We need to be able to exchange or gifts & we deserve the bonuses as well

[max_river]

i have been told that it is a myspace issue it is not that slash keys does not want to give it to you.

[timmysmom04]

hate the belts and dan degrees too much like farmville. would just love more farms and more levels. never get to post my belts or degrees and it was 24hrs since i was last on and I clicked on a bonus and still didnt get anything for it. I know for a fact it was over 12 hrs cause I just got off a 12 hr work shift and I cant get on farmtown at work. I have always loved this game but its just getting old now. would rather have more farms and levels.

[jordan822]

When are we getting new levels? I need more FC... Staying patient but also getting anxious for new updates!!!!

[Tony D]

When are we getting new levels? I need more FC... Staying patient but also getting anxious for new updates!!!!Hi, no one really knows until the Developers release them.

[HelenJS22]

When are we getting new levels? I need more FC... Staying patient but also getting anxious for new updates!!!!

I love this 'staying patient' but 'getting anxious' ..... my mental picture is one of standing perfectly calmly one moment, and chucking a hissy fit on the floor the next, then back up to perfectly calm ..... breathe :D I think Raul has a mantra of 'good things come to those who wait' :) and judging by the updates we have had for the past six months we have a little longer to be patient for yet.

[max_river]

still waiting for the fathers day stuff they better get with it soon or the day will be over. or just give us new levels and a farm will make me happy haha

[JAS0643]

still waiting for the fathers day stuff they better get with it soon or the day will be over. or just give us new levels and a farm will make me happy haha

I believe all of last years father day stuff is still in the store it was just moved from the holiday tab to the other sections of the store.

[max_river]

ya but it would be nice to have new stuff just like they did for mothers day

[lavanah]

Jas, so maybe they won't put the fathers day items in the gift place this year since they are in the holiday tab? I was thinking we would have an update pretty soon because of fathers day coming up.

[lavanah]

I always get excited when I know a new release is on the way soon.

[JAS0643]

ya but it would be nice to have new stuff just like they did for mothers day

Jas, so maybe they won't put the fathers day items in the gift place this year since they are in the holiday tab? I was thinking we would have an update pretty soon because of fathers day coming up.

I would say that since Father's day is 3 days away, at least in the US, that if we where getting new stuff for it we would already have it.

[lavanah]

Yeah, you probably are right.

[lavanah]

Hey there is not even a holiday tab in the store, maybe there is going to be an update, they have to change the tabs and get the holiday tab back up for fathers day, so they might as well do more, like the new update, hehe = fun. Time to get excited again. I better start thinking of a name for my farm 10, like 10 little indians.

[Docperk]

I know there has been a lot complaints about the belts but tonight is the first time in over a year that I have not needed to layer at least one field on my farm. I think they are working.

[Kath-H]

I see we have new levels.

[KayGee]

I see we have new levels.

:) and Farm 10 and some new buildings and facilities...